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Links direct from Dawn Michele Ziemer:
https://www.aurora-dawn.com/
https://www.youtube.com/@AuroraDawnWitchcraft
https://www.instagram.com/auroradawnwitchcraft/
Link to song "So You Wanna Go Back to Egypt" by Keith Green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BQkBdRWxrs
When we say "the book," we mean "No Compromise - The Life Story of Keith Green" by Melody Green. If you feel you must read it, get a USED copy somewhere!
Link to our episode where we discuss "The Plane Crash that Killed Keith Green":
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/13186307
Link to episode with details of Keith arranging Sharon's marriage:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/12748728https://www.instagram.com/feetofclay.cultsisters
https://feetofclayconfessionsofthecultsisters.buzzsprout.com
We love acronyms -- and we aren't afraid to use them! Here are some common ones that we might forget to explain:
LDM - Last Days Ministries (organization)
ICT - Intensive Christian Training School (at LDM)
YWAM - Youth With A Mission (organization)
CCM - Contemporary Christian Music -
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TRIGGER WARNING! This 3-part series contains discussions and descriptions of arranged teen marriage, spiritual abuse, sexual abuse, sexual assault, domestic abuse, and more. Listener discretion advised - and please take care of yourselves.
Tracey and Sharon talk with Abigail Witthauer, a courageous survivor of the cult "IBLP" (Institute for Basic Life Principles), led by Bill Gothard, and featured in the new documentary "Shiny Happy People." Shiny Happy People also told the "real" story of cult celebrities, "The Duggar Family."
This episode is the third of a multi-part interview with Abigail.
Part 1 is here:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/13030650
Part 2 is here:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/13055778
Listen to our general discussion of "Shiny Happy People" in episode 009, here:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/13032097
Link to the documentary "Shiny Happy People"
https://www.amazon.com/Shiny-Happy-People-Duggar-Secrets/dp/B0B8TR2QV5
FANTASTIC-DO-NOT-MISS-THIS satire video on purity culture by the great folks at Mega-the-Podcast is here:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CreKutxI0e6/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Abigail's TikTok (with lots of juicy cult stuff!)
https://www.tiktok.com/@unicornhabitat?_t=8d8e9yzzuNH&_r=1
Abigail's wonderful non-profit work with therapy dogs can be found here:
https://www.theroverchasefoundation.org/
"Feet of Clay - Confessions of the Cult Sisters" is a new podcast hosted by Sharon Madere (Bennett) and Tracey Phalen (Reed), who both worked alongside Keith and Melody Green at Last Days Ministries (LDM). As one-time key leaders in the organization, they go on record about the spiritually traumatic and often damaging influences of the Greens and the multitude of materials (many of which are still available today) published through LDM, including 'The Last Days Newsletter'. Sharon and Tracey each joined LDM as teenagers, where they met and married their respective spouses during those cult-commune years. Both couples independently left LDM in 1987 and moved hundreds of miles apart. They continued in their hard-held beliefs for over ten additional years, yet ultimately divorced in the early 2000s. In this podcast Tracey and Sharon come together to talk about their parallel journeys out of the cult mindset, the long process of unpacking indoctrination and spiritual trauma, and their separate but often co-mingled road to healing and humor. Come join them on the journey!https://www.instagram.com/feetofclay.cultsisters
https://feetofclayconfessionsofthecultsisters.buzzsprout.com
We love acronyms -- and we aren't afraid to use them! Here are some common ones that we might forget to explain:
LDM - Last Days Ministries (organization)
ICT - Intensive Christian Training School (at LDM)
YWAM - Youth With A Mission (organization)
CCM - Contemporary Christian Music -
Send us a Text Message.
YES, we know this episode is LOOOOONG. We tried to break it into 2 parts, but it just didn't feel right. So - listen to what you can at any one time, pause if you need to, then pick it up later. As far as we know, NO ONE ELSE has gone on record about these things... so here it is. What caused the crash that killed Keith Green? A deadly combination of ego, arrogance, gross negligence and spiritual abuse.
CAUTION: Episode includes details about a small plane crash that killed 12 people, including 8 children. Some listeners may find this very disturbing. Please use discretion.
Because time moved so fast at LDM, Tracey "forgot" that she was already on Staff when the plane went down. She was fast-tracked in order to be placed in leadership as a department head. (Sharon says it's cuz Tracey is just so damn smart!)
SPECIAL THANKS to Elizabeth, Paul & Linda for sharing their memories.
Video (25min): Keith Green Plane Crash Shows Value of Accident Investigation
https://flightsafetydetectives.com/keith-green-plane-crash-shows-value-of-accident-investigation-episode-170/
Video (15min): Keith Green Plane Crash Investigation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZIriTiiJEIVideo (14min): New Info on Pilot Don Burmeister
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eUEuQhvzZk
Aviation Safety Network Report
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/39435
Link to lawsuit details:
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/783/1234/41667/
Sharon's interview on "I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist," including how Keith led her to the Lord & arranged her teenage marriage:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/12748728
Documentaries about the NXIVM Cult:
“The Vow” on HBOMAX
“Seduced – Inside the NXIVM Cult” on Netflix
Need a laugh? "The Righteous Gemstones" on HBO
Book "No Compromise - The Life Story of Keith Green" by Melody Green. If you feel you must read this, please do us a favor and buy a USED copy!
Guitar background during memories is instrumental of "Oh Lord, You're Beautiful," music & lyrics by Keith Green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtzCD_8Kbjhttps://www.instagram.com/feetofclay.cultsisters
https://feetofclayconfessionsofthecultsisters.buzzsprout.com
We love acronyms -- and we aren't afraid to use them! Here are some common ones that we might forget to explain:
LDM - Last Days Ministries (organization)
ICT - Intensive Christian Training School (at LDM)
YWAM - Youth With A Mission (organization)
CCM - Contemporary Christian Music -
Send us a Text Message.
CAUTION! In this episode we talk very vulnerably, honestly and explicitly about sex and our personal experiences. We feel this is not appropriate for younger kids. Regarding teenagers... for those who may have already been influenced by or are struggling with the teachings of "purity culture" and/or fundamentalist principles, our unvarnished real-life experiences may be useful and instructive. Please use discretion.
It is NEVER our intention to inflict pain or shame. We did our best to refer to our former spouses without using their names. In one place we slipped (actually, TRACEY is the one who blew it!), so we "bleeped" over the name with our super high-tech verbal "BEEP" technique. Enjoy.OMG we didn't need to make ANY corrections on this episode! Guess we've finally approaching perfection...... except that we AGAIN had some audio challenges, and quality isn't up to snuff yet. Sigh.
* If you haven't yet listened to the first three parts of Virgins & Volcanos, quit your dilly-dallying and catch up:
Part 1: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/12790634
Part 2: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/12825513
Part 3: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/12890425
NOTES & CORRECTIONS"Feet of Clay - Confessions of the Cult Sisters" is a new podcast hosted by Sharon Madere (Bennett) and Tracey Phalen (Reed), who both worked alongside Keith and Melody Green at Last Days Ministries (LDM). As one-time key leaders in the organization, they go on record about the spiritually traumatic and often damaging influences of the Greens and the multitude of materials (many of which are still available today) published through LDM, including 'The Last Days Newsletter'. Sharon and Tracey each joined LDM as teenagers, where they met and married their respective spouses during those cult-commune years. Both couples independently left LDM in 1987 and moved hundreds of miles apart. They continued in their hard-held beliefs for over ten additional years, yet ultimately divorced in the early 2000s. In this podcast Tracey and Sharon come together to talk about their parallel journeys out of the cult mindset, the long process of unpacking indoctrination and spiritual trauma, and their separate but often co-mingled road to healing and humor. Come join them on the journey!
https://www.instagram.com/feetofclay.cultsisters
https://feetofclayconfessionsofthecultsisters.buzzsprout.com
We love acronyms -- and we aren't afraid to use them! Here are some common ones that we might forget to explain:
LDM - Last Days Ministries (organization)
ICT - Intensive Christian Training School (at LDM)
YWAM - Youth With A Mission (organization)
CCM - Contemporary Christian Music -
Send us a Text Message.
The bible story of Zacchaeus is found in Luke 19:1-9, and here are the first few verses: Jesus entered Jericho and was passing through. A man was there by the name of Zacchaeus; he was a chief tax collector and was wealthy. He wanted to see who Jesus was, but because he was short he could not see over the crowd. So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore-fig tree to see him, since Jesus was coming that way.
In our adorable Christian parenting, we taught our kids a little song about Zacchaeus, and here were the first two lines:
Zacchaeus was a wee little man, and a wee little man was he!
He climbed up in a sycamore tree to see what he could see...
A passage in the bible about head coverings: 1 Corinthians 11:2-16
Link to Part 1 of Abigail's Story:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/13030650
Link to the documentary "Shiny Happy People"
https://www.amazon.com/Shiny-Happy-People-Duggar-Secrets/dp/B0B8TR2QV5
"Feet of Clay - Confessions of the Cult Sisters" is a new podcast hosted by Sharon Madere (Bennett) and Tracey Phalen (Reed), who both worked alongside Keith and Melody Green at Last Days Ministries (LDM). As one-time key leaders in the organization, they go on record about the spiritually traumatic and often damaging influences of the Greens and the multitude of materials (many of which are still available today) published through LDM, including 'The Last Days Newsletter'. Sharon and Tracey each joined LDM as teenagers, where they met and married their respective spouses during those cult-commune years. Both couples independently left LDM in 1987 and moved hundreds of miles apart. They continued in their hard-held beliefs for over ten additional years, yet ultimately divorced in the early 2000s. In this podcast Tracey and Sharon come together to talk about their parallel journeys out of the cult mindset, the long process of unpacking indoctrination and spiritual trauma, and their separate but often co-mingled road to healing and humor. Come join them on the journey!https://www.instagram.com/feetofclay.cultsisters
https://feetofclayconfessionsofthecultsisters.buzzsprout.com
We love acronyms -- and we aren't afraid to use them! Here are some common ones that we might forget to explain:
LDM - Last Days Ministries (organization)
ICT - Intensive Christian Training School (at LDM)
YWAM - Youth With A Mission (organization)
CCM - Contemporary Christian Music -
Send us a Text Message.
TRIGGER WARNING! This episode contains discussions and descriptions of ritualized child spanking, child abuse, spiritual abuse, and more. Listener discretion advised - and please take care of yourselves.
Tracey and Sharon talk with Abigail Witthauer, a courageous survivor of the cult "IBLP" (Institute for Basic Life Principles), led by Bill Gothard, and featured in the new documentary "Shiny Happy People." Shiny Happy People also told the "real" story of celebrities "The Duggar Family."
This episode is the first of a multi-part interview with Abigail. You can also listen to our general discussion of "Shiny Happy People" in episode 009, here:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/13032097
Link to the documentary "Shiny Happy People"
https://www.amazon.com/Shiny-Happy-People-Duggar-Secrets/dp/B0B8TR2QV5
Abigail's TikTok (with lots of juicy cult stuff!)
https://www.tiktok.com/@unicornhabitat?_t=8d8e9yzzuNH&_r=1
Abigail's wonderful non-profit work with therapy dogs can be found here:
https://www.theroverchasefoundation.org/
"Feet of Clay - Confessions of the Cult Sisters" is a new podcast hosted by Sharon Madere (Bennett) and Tracey Phalen (Reed), who both worked alongside Keith and Melody Green at Last Days Ministries (LDM). As one-time key leaders in the organization, they go on record about the spiritually traumatic and often damaging influences of the Greens and the multitude of materials (many of which are still available today) published through LDM, including 'The Last Days Newsletter'. Sharon and Tracey each joined LDM as teenagers, where they met and married their respective spouses during those cult-commune years. Both couples independently left LDM in 1987 and moved hundreds of miles apart. They continued in their hard-held beliefs for over ten additional years, yet ultimately divorced in the early 2000s. In this podcast Tracey and Sharon come together to talk about their parallel journeys out of the cult mindset, the long process of unpacking indoctrination and spiritual trauma, and their separate but often co-mingled road to healing and humor. Come join them on the journey!https://www.instagram.com/feetofclay.cultsisters
https://feetofclayconfessionsofthecultsisters.buzzsprout.com
We love acronyms -- and we aren't afraid to use them! Here are some common ones that we might forget to explain:
LDM - Last Days Ministries (organization)
ICT - Intensive Christian Training School (at LDM)
YWAM - Youth With A Mission (organization)
CCM - Contemporary Christian Music -
Send us a Text Message.
Tracey's journal entry, after her first encounter with a man beyond her marriage...
I found myself sitting across the table from a man whose intellectual and spiritual roots ran far deeper than my own; whose composure exuded that rare blend of wild abandon, yet calm stability; whose very essence reflected, without fanfare, the evidence of a rich array of life experiences. You were no "character", but one who stood at the far end of a path I had just begun to travel. And though our verbal communication stayed somewhat shallow and, at times, even a little disconnected, there was an unspoken message coming from you that resonated loud and clear within me.
I was drawn...
You kissed me. And I knew I had a choice to make. Back at your apartment, as I looked out over the skyline, I immediately felt a sense of "coming home" --- it was as though I was being reunited with a part of me that I had lost long, long ago. In the spillover of your quiet strength, I found safety to follow the voice that had been beckoning me for months; the voice that gave me permission to follow my desires. Releasing my sensuality with you came as naturally as breathing, without guilt or fear, shattering once and for all the guise of truth the lies had worn.
No more self-doubt...
You were a springtime awakening in the dead of my winter. A gift --- hand picked by the universe to encourage me forth into vibrant and ... "luscious living". And though I have only skimmed your surface, I will forever be grateful to you for choosing a lifestyle that encourages the freedom of sensual expression, and for sharing even a small part of that with me.***********************************
Sharon's poem, the first time she felt a sense of emotional, romantic love and connection with a man...
When I awake my thoughts take flight
And far across an ocean fly
To light upon the love who holds my heart
Once cold, once left to dieAnd as the sun his journey makes
My soul is filled with silent song
Whispered to this secret love
To whom my hopes and dreams belongAnd when the stars and moon embrace
To gently fade the twilight blue
I close my eyes and feel the joy
Of knowing, trusting, loving you
"Feet of Clay - Confessions of the Cult Sisters" is a new podcast hosted by Sharon Madere (Bennett) and Tracey Phalen (Reed), who both worked alongside Keith and Melody Green at Last Days Ministries (LDM). As one-time key leaders in the organization, they go on record about the spiritually traumatic and often damaging influences of the Greens and the multitude of materials (many of which are still available today) published through LDM, including 'The Last Days Newsletter'. Sharon and Tracey each joined LDM as teenagers, where they met and married their respective spouses during those cult-commune years. Both couples independently left LDM in 1987 and moved hundreds of miles apart. They continued in their hard-held beliefs for over ten additional years, yet ultimately divorced in the early 2000s. In this podcast Tracey and Sharon come together to talk abhttps://www.instagram.com/feetofclay.cultsisters
https://feetofclayconfessionsofthecultsisters.buzzsprout.com
We love acronyms -- and we aren't afraid to use them! Here are some common ones that we might forget to explain:
LDM - Last Days Ministries (organization)
ICT - Intensive Christian Training School (at LDM)
YWAM - Youth With A Mission (organization)
CCM - Contemporary Christian Music -
Send us a Text Message.
CAUTION! In this episode we talk very vulnerably, honestly and explicitly about sex and our personal experiences. We feel this is not appropriate for younger kids. Regarding teenagers... for those who may have already been influenced by or are struggling with the teachings of "purity culture" and/or fundamentalist principles, our unvarnished real-life experiences may be useful and instructive. Please use discretion.
* If you haven't yet listened to Virgins & Volcanos Part 1, you can catch up here:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/12790634
* If you haven't yet listened to Virgins & Volcanos Part 2 , you can catch up here:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2078827/12825513
In Part 3 we continue our discussion about how we, as VIRGINS, were impacted by the oppressiveness of Purity Culture, and the PAIN that was sown and reaped in our marriages.NOTES & CORRECTIONS
It is NEVER our intention to inflict pain or shame. We did our best to refer to our former spouses without using their names. In one place we slipped (actually, TRACEY is the one who blew it!), so we "bleeped" over the name with our super high-tech verbal "BEEP" technique. Enjoy.TRACEY got her 'E' prophets mixed up, it was EZEKIEL who spoke to the dry bones in Ezekiel 37:5."Feet of Clay - Confessions of the Cult Sisters" is a new podcast hosted by Sharon Madere (Bennett) and Tracey Phalen (Reed), who both worked alongside Keith and Melody Green at Last Days Ministries (LDM). As one-time key leaders in the organization, they go on record about the spiritually traumatic and often damaging influences of the Greens and the multitude of materials (many of which are still available today) published through LDM, including 'The Last Days Newsletter'. Sharon and Tracey each joined LDM as teenagers, where they met and married their respective spouses during those cult-commune years. Both couples independently left LDM in 1987 and moved hundreds of miles apart. They continued in their hard-held beliefs for over ten additional years, yet ultimately divorced in the early 2000s. In this podcast Tracey and Sharon come together to talk about their parallel journeys out of the cult mindset, the long process of unpacking indoctrination and spiritual trauma, and their separate but often co-mingled road to healing and humor. Come join them on the journey!
https://www.instagram.com/feetofclay.cultsisters
https://feetofclayconfessionsofthecultsisters.buzzsprout.com
We love acronyms -- and we aren't afraid to use them! Here are some common ones that we might forget to explain:
LDM - Last Days Ministries (organization)
ICT - Intensive Christian Training School (at LDM)
YWAM - Youth With A Mission (organization)
CCM - Contemporary Christian Music
