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Right after I taped this week’s episode with John McWhorter, I got on a call with my creative director Nikita Petrov, expecting some follow ups.
We talked about Syria, the world’s reaction to Trump’s victory, P. Diddy’s parties, the reasons the labor movement never got the same kind of momentum in the US as it did in Western Europe, and more. But we started by connecting two topics from my conversation with John: the surprisingly cheerful reactions to a killing of an insurance firm CEO in New York, and the seeming demise of DEI as a movement.
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Mike Spooner wants to know how I came around to supporting Trump
Substack Reader wants to know if Trump’s reelection signals that we’re entering an era where “reason and common sense once again prevail.”
Michoel Stern senses that I’m becoming more isolationist, and that I don’t want America to be the world’s policeman. So what is the alternative?
Robert Odear asks if there is “an accepted metric for linguistic complexity,” and if there is one, whether linguistically complex societies also tend to be advanced societies.
Nancy wants to know if the triumph over “wokeness” represented by Trump’s election is being felt on campus.
Jonathan E. Burack wants to know why I haven’t responded to this review of Ta-Nehisi Coates’s The Message.
Pete Bradshaw asks what we think of the use of political slurs like “fascist,” “Hitler,” and “commie.”
Cara C. suggests that, while it was wrong for Democrats to use lawfare against Trump, it is acceptable for Republicans to use it against Democrats, if only to teach them a lesson.
Recorded December 1, 2024
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0:00 Thanksgiving with Glenn and John
0:45 Thanksgiving with Glenn and John
6:50 Glenn the patriarch
10:35 John Lewis’s legacy
15:48 Ground News ad
17:49 From John Lewis to Stokely Carmichael to Jesse Jackson to BLM
25:21 To isolate or to integrate?
27:41 What black activism could have been
32:02 John: The Black Panthers accomplished nothing
40:04 ACTA ad
42:18 James Baldwin’s “nutty” late work
44:45 James Q. Wilson’s prescient attitude toward Glenn’s leftward shift
52:43 The “conservative” absence at the National Museum of African American History
55:11 John’s investigation of contemporary Yiddish speakers
Recorded December 1, 2024
Links and Readings
David Greenberg’s book, John Lewis: A Life
Barbara Fields and Karen Fields’s book, Racecraft: The Soul of Inequality in American Life
Kwame Ture (Stokely Carmichael) and Charles Hamilton’s book, Black Power: The Politics of Liberation
Trailer for Raoul Peck’s film, I Am Not Your Negro
James Baldwin’s book, The Evidence of Things Not Seen
Glenn’s book, Race, Incarceration, and American Values
John DiIulio Jr.’s review of Late Admissions in the Claremont Review of Books
John’s NYT column, “Yiddish is a Supposedly Dying Language That’s Thrillingly Alive”
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In this post-show recording with Mark and Nikita, I talk about the holiday blues, the contradictions of racial heterodoxy and racial self-identification, and learning from Yiddish-speakers.
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0:47 The Jabbari Lincoln Files, Yaya’s audio spy thriller
5:40 Is Jabbari Lincoln a fictional surrogate for Yaya?
10:05 How Yaya joined the CIA
16:18 What does a CIA analyst do, anyway?
20:42 The lessons of the WMDs debacle
23:08 A Muslim convert at the Agency
28:40 How the 2005 London Underground bombings got Yaya interested in counterterrorism
30:28 Terrorist recruitment and the search for self
35:57 Why Yaya doesn’t use the term “Islamophobia”
38:52 Yaya: Not even freedom fighters have license to kill with impunity
45:06 What would Malcolm X think about African American support of Palestinians?
52:22 Working for the CIA in the post-COINTELPRO era
Recorded November 9, 2024
Links and Readings
1776 Unites
The Jabarri Lincoln Files
Sam Greenlee’s novel, The Spook Who Sat by the Door
Ivan Dixon’s 1973 film adaptation of The Spook Who Say by the Door
Yaya’s essay for the Journal of Free Black Thought, “Hamas Are Not Muslim Freedom Fighters”
December 2, 1963 NYT article on Malcolm X’s “Chickens coming home to roost” comment
Yaya’s other podcast, Designated
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In this post-show recording with Mark and Nikita, I talk about my conversation with Yaya Fanusie, the sub rosa activities of the CIA, the US's authorization of ATACMS strikes in Russian territory, and more.
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0:43 John reconciles himself to Trump’s win
4:06 Glenn: Wake up! It’s time to take Trump seriously!
12:16 Why Glenn feels a sense of excitement about the present moment
14:54 Ground News Ad
16:40 Is Glenn’s attitude all about contrarianism?
21:00 Does John hope that Trump’s administration fails?
26:08 ACTA ad
28:22 John’s trip to Dublin with Richard Dawkins
36:44 John’s questions for Dawkins
41:51 What Dawkins might think about race, culture, and IQ
Recorded November 18, 2024
Links and Readings
John’s NYT piece, “What if I’m the ‘Friend’ Donald Trump Referred To?”
John’s Atlantic piece, “Trump’s Unmonitored Speech”
Max Boot’s book, Reagan: His Life and Legend
Richard Dawkins’s latest book, The Genetic Book of the Dead: A Darwinian Reverie
Dawkins’s book, The Selfish Gene
Dawkins’s book, The Extended Phenotype: The Long Reach of the Gene
Dawkins’s book, The God Delusion
Dawkins’s book, The Ancestors’ Tale: A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Life
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In this post-show recording with Mark and Nikita, I talk about my conversation with John McWhorter, my elation over Trump's victory, and why I wasn't forthcoming about my preference for him over Harris.
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1:21 Have Glenn’s intellectual shifts been misread?
5:45 Danny: Francis Fukuyama was right
10:30 Capitalism won. Is that a good thing?
14:18 The climate under capitalism
20:24 Danny: “People said 'f**k you' to the Democratic Party”
23:51 Why the “Trump is a fascist” argument makes no sense
27:53 Whither the working class coalition?
33:10 How the US foreign policy establishment won the argument and lost Ukraine
36:28 Danny: There is no way the US can maintain influence in East Asia
38:26 Does Jewish survival require a Jewish state?
43:50 The limits of social science
49:36 The media’s obsession with polling
53:55 Is the US reaping what it’s sown on immigration?52:34 Is the US reaping what it’s sown on immigration?
Recorded November 9, 2024
Links and Readings
Dann’s podcast, American Prestige
Danny’s conversations with Glenn about his intellectual history, parts 1, 2, 3, and 4
Francis Fukuyama’s Financial Times piece, “What Trump Unleashed Means for America”
Danny’s Nation essay, “The Liberal Discontents of Francis Fukuyama”
Adam Tooze’s podcast, Ones & Tooze
Danny’s Harper’s essay, “The Life and Death of Hollywood”
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels’s manifesto, The Communist Manifesto
Danny’s Harper’s essay, “Empire Burlesque”
Danny’s Boston Review piece, “Mass Destruction”
Glenn’s recent conversation with Rajiv Sethi
JD Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis
John Murray Cuddihy’s book, The Ordeal of Civilization: Freud, Marx, Lévi-Strauss, and the Jewish Struggle with Modernity
Yuri Slezkine’s book, The Jewish Century
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In this post-show conversation with my creative director Nikita Petrov, I review this week's episode with historian Daniel Bessner. We also talk about Trump's policy proposals, capitalism, Russia and Ukraine, NATO, and why I sometimes pull back from speaking my mind.
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In this month's Substack subscriber-only Q&A session, we talk about Donald Trump's "Nazi rally" at Madison Square Garden, Martha Raddatz's comments about Venezuelan gangs in Colorado, Glenn's retirement, John's comments about Trump and Vance, my comments about Israel and Palestine, and, of course, Trump's victory.
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This is the Post-Show episode following this week's conversation with John McWhorter. In it, Glenn sits down with his editor Mark Sussman and his creative director Nikita Petrov to talk about the election, why he understands where Trump's supporters are coming from, the meaning of voting, and the possibility that Trump might release sealed documents relating to the JFK assassination.
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[Note: In the episode, John mistakenly referred to the author of a biography of Ronald Reagan as George Will. He meant to reference Max Boot’s Reagan: His Life and Legacy.]
1:39 Pre-election jitters
3:23 Will Democrats contest the election if it goes Trump’s way?
4:44 A crisis for democracy, maybe, but not the end of democracy
10:02 John’s case against Trump’s proposed second administration
15:36 Ground News ad
17:28 The Obamas’ attempted intervention and post-presidential performance
26:58 The mind of the informed Trump voter
34:20 A revisionist history of the Trump presidency (or presidencies)
41:15 Is Trump losing it or just tired of campaigning?
44:25 The Washington Post and the LA Times decline to endorse
47:48 Glenn and John’s election night plans
50:48 The nightmare scenario
Recorded November 3, 2024
Links and Readings
Shelby Steele’s book, A Bound Man: Why We Are Excited about Obama and Why He Can’t Win
Jimmy Carter’s book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid
John’s NYT column, “Donald Trump Is Bored”
Max Boot’s book, Reagan: His Life and Legacy
Everybody Loves Raymond: The Complete Series DVD box set
Douglas Murray’s Free Press piece, “Things Worth Remembering: Whoever Loses, They Should Lose Like Nixon”
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0:00 Rajiv’s report from the FIRE conference
3:11 Roland Fryer’s keynote address
13:26 Ta-Nehisi Coates’s humanist universalism
17:25 “Tolstoy is the Tolstoy of the Zulus”
18:50 Rajiv’s reading of Coates’s stand on “apartheid”
31:55 The gap between election forecasting models and prediction markets
36:52 The limits of models and markets
39:59 Rajiv: The markets show us a balance between narratives about the election
44:17 Is one crypto trader manipulating the prediction markets in favor of Trump?
53:12 Rajiv: Prediction markets may have sent early signals about January 6
55:19 Rajiv’s family history with Kamala Harris
57:45 The new prominence of Indian Americans in politics
1:03:07 The axiom of antiessentialism
Recorded October 27, 2024
Links and Readings
Rajiv’s Substack, Imperfect Information
Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression
Lara Bazelon’s 2022 Atlantic essay, “The ACLU Has Lost Its Way”
Glenn’s 2021 conversation with Bazelon
Glenn’s 2023 conversation with Erec Smith
Eugene Volokh on the Hamline University-Prophet Muhammad painting controversy
Ta-Nehisi Coates’s book, The Message
Coates’s 2010 Atlantic essay, “The Ghost of Bobby Lee”
Ralph Wiley’s book, Dark Witness: When Black People Should Be Sacrificed (Again)
Last week’s TGS debate about The Messsage
Orlando Patterson’s book, Slavery and Social Death: A Comparative Study
Glenn’s book, The Anatomy of Racial Inequality
Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative
Polymarket
Recorded October 27, 2024
Links and Readings
Rajiv’s Substack, Imperfect Information
Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression
Lara Bazelon’s 2022 Atlantic essay, “The ACLU Has Lost Its Way”
Glenn’s 2021 conversation with Bazelon
Glenn’s 2023 conversation with Erec Smith
Eugene Volokh on the Hamline University-Prophet Muhammad painting controversy
Ta-Nehisi Coates’s book, The Message
Coates’s 2010 Atlantic essay, “The Ghost of Bobby Lee”
Ralph Wiley’s book, Dark Witness: When Black People Should Be Sacrificed (Again)
Last week’s TGS debate about The Messsage
Orlando Patterson’s book, Slavery and Social Death: A Comparative Study
Glenn’s book, The Anatomy of Racial Inequality
Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative
Polymarket
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1:22 The Coates debate continues
3:18 John: Coates is a beautiful writer, but …
5:44 John: … The Message is suffused with incuriosity and simplistic thinking
13:45 Glenn: Coates is talking about humanism and power, not race
18:11 Ground News ad
20:25 Is it “all about whitey”?
22:11 Glenn: Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote this book. What am I doing?
27:40 What kind of historical imagination is at work in The Message?
34:11 Moral clarity or abdication of responsibility?
36:30 Pro-Palestinian writers John considers acceptable
41:54 The next entries in Glenn and John’s book club
42:04 Coates’s now notorious interview on CBS Mornings
48:45 What is the black intellectual’s role today?
52:16 The counterexample of South Africa
Recorded October 19, 2024
Links and Readings
Ta-Nehisi Coates’s book, The Message
Glenn and John’s previous conversation
John’s NYT column, “Ta-Nehisi Coates and the Myth of Black Fragility”
Michael Chabon’s novel, The Yiddish Policemen’s Union
Jeffrey Sachs on YouTube
Judge Andrew Napolitano on YouTube
Trevor Noah’s conversation with Coates
Ezra Klein’s conversation with Coates
Peter Beinart’s conversation with Coates
David Greenberg’s new book, John Lewis: A Life
Karen and Barbara Fields’s book, Racecraft: The Soul of Inequality in American Life
Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative
James Baldwin’s essay, “Letter from a Region in My Mind”
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1:41 Penn’s sanctions against Amy
7:47 What’s at stake in the charges against Amy?
14:03 The trouble with “hate speech”
17:48 Should we abolish the nation-state?
21:38 The debates that can’t happen in the university
26:44 Ethnonationalism and group differences
33:11 Amy’s defense of maintaining an “Anglo-Protestant” American majority
42:32 Amy’s concerns about Asian migration
47:52 Are immigrants bringing lax attitudes toward property rights with them?
52:52 Glenn: Immigrants impart dynamism to a culture that’s always been in flux
1:01:13 Glenn and Amy talk about porn
1:07:51 The absence of virtue in political discourse
1:13:05 Amy’s next steps
Recorded October 12, 2024
Links and Readings
Amy’s Philadelphia Inquirer op-ed, “Paying the Price for the Breakdown of the Country’s Bourgeois Culture”
Glenn and Amy’s 2017 conversation, “The Downside to Social Uplift”
Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression
Ta-Nehisi Coates’s new book, The Message
William Vogelei’s Claremont Review of Books review of Robert Kagan’s Rebellion: How Antiliberalism Is Tearing America Apart—Again
Coleman Hughes’s book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America
Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson’s book, Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity, and Poverty
Daniel Di Martino’s recent appearance on The Glenn Show
Irving Kristol’s 1971 essay, “Pornography, Obscenity, and the Case for Censorship”
Glenn’s essay, “The Case for Black Patriotism”
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1:12 The Vance-Walz debate
4:28 Glenn: Ta-Nehisi Coates’s new book is brilliant
13:16 John and Coates’s ancient beef
15:31 Coates’s “blistering” critique of Zionism
18:22 Ground News ad
20:39 Do you have to solve the problem of “apartheid” in order to criticize it?
33:10 Glenn’s reappraisal of Coates (and John’s bemusement)
34:53 ACTA ad 36:39 Will the race card play for Eric Adams?
42:31 What has Eric Adams accomplished?
43:57 Why John defends Amy Wax
49:17 Glenn: Amy Wax gets to have her opinion
Recorded October 5, 2024
Links and Readings
The Vance-Walz VP debate
Ta-Nehisi Coates’s book, The Message
Coleman Hughes’s Free Press review of The Message
Coates’s book, Between the World and Me
Coates’s Atlantic essay, “The Case for Reparations”
Glenn and John’s in-person TGS episode
Andrew Yang’s Newsweek piece, “I Ran against Eric Adams. I Saw This Coming.”
John’s NYT piece, “She Is Outrageous, Demeaning, Dangerous. She Shouldn’t Be Punished.”
Amy Wax’s December 2021 TGS appearance
Wax’s August 2022 TGS appearance
Wax’s March 2024 TGS appearance
Richard Sander’s Stanford Law Review article, “A Systematic Analysis of Affirmative Action in American Law Schools”
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1:15 Why Daniel immigrated to the US
5:14 What went wrong in Venezuela?
8:45 Daniel: Both the Biden administration and global trends are to blame for the border crisis
11:19 Trump promises to deport record numbers of illegal immigrants. But can he?
13:00 What’s it take to fix immigration? Money.
18:39 The flawed strategy of making immigration into Mexico’s problem
20:48 The bad information and rumors fueling asylum-seekers
23:18 Should residency visa programs prioritize the richest immigrants?
32:13 The labor market consequences of immigration
37:27 Daniel’s large-scale proposals for national immigration policy
43:00 How many unauthorized immigrants are in US right now?
45:23 The political realities of immigration reform44:08 The political realities of immigration reform
Recorded September 23, 2025
Links and Readings
Daniel’s writing for City Journal
Daniel’s report for the Manhattan Institute, “The Lifetime Fiscal Impact of Immigrants”
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A couple weeks ago, I did my own solo Q&A session. Now John is back, and I decided to put him in the hot seat. Let’s get into it. Yan Shen asks our opinion of the contretemps between Nancy Mace and Michael Eric Dyson. Stan asks if we’ve seen Matt Walsh’s film, Am I Racist?. Eli, noting the rampant grade inflation at many institutions, asks if we have a way of fixing the problem and wants to know if our own grading standards have changed over the years (here’s the Yascha Mounk post she references). RAO wants to know what we think of alternative education, like home schooling, micro-schools, charter schools, and so on. Jerry Zuriff wants to know why John likes hip-hop. Given that, on average, American girls perform better than American boys in high school, Michael asks if colleges should give preferences to males over females. Or would that run afoul of SFFA v. Harvard? And finally, DG wants to know why John never got interested in sports.
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1:28 John corrects some Wikipedia-driven misconceptions about his work
4:12 ChatGPT pays homage to Glenn and John
6:41 John: JD Vance actually is what I’m merely accused of being
17:59 Ground News ad 20:08 Are there any true sellouts among black conservatives?
28:32 And what is a sellout, anyway?
36:01 What goes on between Clarence and Ginni Thomas?
40:19 An addition to the book club reading list
42:08 ACTA ad
43:54 Remembering Linda Datcher Loury
49:00 Should having children be the norm?
56:34 Glenn sightings in the wild
57:32 Working without a net
Recorded September 23, 2024
Links and Readings
Glenn’s Wikipedia page
John’s Wikipedia page
John’s NYT column, “Why JD Vance Dropped into My Inbox”
JD Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis
John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America
Randall Kennedy’s book, Sellout: The Politics of Racial Betrayal
David Greenberg’s forthcoming book, John Lewis: A Life
David Lodge’s novel, Changing Places: A Tale of Two Campuses
Barbara and Karen Fields’s book, Racecraft: The Soul of Inequality in American Life
Percival Everett’s novel, James
RF Kuang’s novel, Babel, or the Necessity of Violence
Clint Smith’s Atlantic piece, “George Floyd Was Also a Father”
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