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The Showering name is synonymous with both innovation and tradition in the world of cider for the past 187 years. In this Episode 425 of Cider Chat, Nick Showering shares a bit on his family’s cider-making roots that stretch back over 400 years and in the past 180 years in the town of Shepton Mallet, Somerset, England.
Nick Showering A Storied Legacy in SomersetThe Showerings have been crafting cider in Somerset for nearly two centuries. It all began with a small pub, The Ship Inn, where cider was made and served locally. As generations passed, the family expanded their influence, eventually creating Babycham—a sparkling perry that revolutionized the beverage industry and played a key role in shaping British drinking culture in the 1950s. The playful brand with the signature reindeer brought a fresh, elegant option to women in a male-dominated pub scene.
Hello Triple Vintage!Triple Vintage is made with 100% cider apples all grown in Somerset. The featured apple in this cider is Dabinett. Solera, the technique of blending different ferments, in this case three different vintages of high-tannin apples, creates a delectable cider that balances depth of flavor with an elegant finish for the Triple Vintage.
Enjoy the Triple Vintage which is sold throughout the UK in fine dining establishments or online (link below) in a large stemmed red wine glass. Serve slightly chilled.
The Triple Vintage comes in 375 ML bottles.
What’s Next for the Showerings?With their sights set on continuing to produce fine cider and Nick Showering clearly enjoying the challenge, time will tell. For now it appears it is all about maintaining a foot in the door of the ever increasing “fine cider” category and the prospects of introducing a new generation of drinkers to the possibilities of high-quality cider…making that very good news for the industry at large.
Contact for Showerings Triple Vintage Website: https://showeringscider.co.uk/products/showerings-triple-vintage-cider Mentions in this Cider Chat Episode 422 John Bunker Keynote: Orchards and Legacy Episode 423 Apple Identification 101 John Bunker Subscribe to Cider Chat YouTube Totally Cider Tour - French Cider Tour Woodfolk Cider, Ontario Canada Spy Ciderworks & Distillery, Ontario Canada -
Apple Phenotyping: The Tools Every Orchardist Needs
In Episode 424 of Cider Chat, we dive deeper into the intricate world of apple identification, this time focusing on apple phenotyping — the art and science of describing apples by their physical characteristics. This is Part 3 of the three part series on John Bunker, renowned author, apple detective, and founder of FEDCO Trees. Expect a master class and experiential lesson as he shares his extensive experience and provides a valuable toolbox of techniques that for apple fans, cider makers and orchardist.
What is Phenotyping?Apple phenotyping refers to the process of identifying and describing apples by their observable physical traits, such as size, shape, color, and texture. These characteristics, known as phenotypes, help orchardists distinguish between different apple cultivars. While apples may be genetically identical, they can exhibit slight variations based on their environment, making phenotyping a key skill for identifying and preserving apple varieties.
Why is Apple Phenotyping Important?Phenotyping is more than just a way to describe apples; it’s a critical method for orchard care, especially for those looking to preserve historic and rare apple varieties. John emphasizes that understanding the nuances of the apples you grow allows you to ensure that your orchard is correctly labeled and organized. This attention to detail not only improves the quality of your cider apples but also helps preserve the legacy of historic cultivars.
Phenotyping also allows orchardists to confirm apple identities in cases where DNA testing isn’t readily accessible or when historical records are incomplete. Whether you’re comparing apples from different orchards or identifying a lost variety, having a reliable set of phenotyping techniques in your toolbox is essential.
Watch this entire presentation at Cider Chat YouTube The Orchardist’s Toolbox: Key Techniques for PhenotypingJohn encourages orchardists to keep a thorough record of the apples they grow, noting characteristics such as:
Size and Shape: Measure the diameter of the apple and observe its overall shape (e.g., round, oblate, or conic). Color and Skin: Note the ground color (the apple’s underlying color) and any blushes, stripes, or russeting that appear on the skin. Stem and Cavity: Examine the length and thickness of the stem, as well as the depth and width of the cavity where the stem attaches. Calyx and Basin: Check whether the calyx (the dried flower at the apple’s base) is open or closed, and assess the depth and shape of the basin around it. Core and Seeds: Cut the apple open to analyze the core’s shape, size, and location, as well as the number and appearance of seeds.These observations not only help you identify your apples but also provide insights into the health of your orchard and the quality of your cider apples.
Join the Conversation on Cider Chat YouTubeTo see John Bunker’s full slideshow presentation on phenotyping apples and learn even more about his techniques, be sure to subscribe to the Cider Chat YouTube Channel. This episode is packed with invaluable knowledge for anyone looking to refine their skills in orchard care and apple identification.
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In Episode 423 of Cider Chat, we delve into the fascinating world of apple identification a.k.a. Apple Id with the one and only John Bunker, a renowned author and the c0-founder of FEDCO Trees, Maine Organic Farmers and Gardners Association (MOFGA). Hear as he shares his lifelong passion for tracking down historic apple varieties and teaching others how to preserve these treasures is truly inspiring.
This presentation is part one of a two-part series on Apple ID recorded at CiderCon2024.
John Bunker portrait by John Alsop of Cornville, MEHear John Bunker walking us through the intricacies of apple identification, reminding us that it’s not just about identifying a fruit — it’s about preserving history. For orchardists and cider makers, understanding the varieties in your care is a crucial part of maintaining the integrity of your orchard and the quality of your cider apples.
00:00 Introduction to Cider Chat and Apple Mysteries
01:37 John Bunker's Apple Identification Journey
04:11 The Importance of Apple Identification
10:11 Understanding Apple Trees and Grafting
21:39 Resources for Apple Identification
25:37 DNA Profiling and Apple Identification
30:12 Practical Apple Identification Scenarios
33:40 Mentors and the Black Oxford Apple
34:39 DNA Profiling and Apple Identification
37:06 The Mystery of the Canadian Strawberry
38:52 The Hunt for Lost Apples
41:36 Identifying Seedlings and Grafted Trees
45:49 Commercial Orchards and Misidentified Apples
48:47 The Role of Historical Records in Apple Identification
53:26 The Fun and Challenges of Apple Hunting
58:05 Becoming an Apple Detective
01:04:31 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Contact for John Bunker
Website: Outonthelimbapple.comBooks recommended in this episode:
Apples and the Art of Detection by John Bunker (2019) Systemic Pomology by UP Hedrick 1925 The American Fruit Culturist: Containing Practical Directions for the Propagation and Culture of All Fruits Adapted to the United States, John Thomas 1849 The Fruit Manual, Robert Hogg 1886 Episode 422 John Bunker Keynote: Orchards and Legacy Subscribe to Cider Chat YouTube Totally Cider Tours - French Cider Tour -
New York Apple Camp Keynote Address by John Bunker
In a captivating keynote from the 2023 New York Apple Camp, John Bunker, the founder of FEDCO Trees and renowned author on apple identification, shared his profound connection to the outdoors.
John Bunker in his favorite shirt and barefeetEnjoy the Keynote by John that weaves his passion for Jazz, quotes from thought leaders and his insights on the late frost of 2023 and the community surrounding apples, cider and plants.
In This Keynote AddressFind 5 key areas that John bunker focused on during his speech.
Connection to Nature and OrchardsObservations Learnings from Plants Environmental and Agricultural Reflections Philosophical Musings and Inspirations Legacy and Passing the Torch View from above of John Bunker’s Keynote Subscribe to Cider Chat for Part 2 with John Bunker – Apple ID 101 w/John Bunker coming out in Episode 423 – August 21, 2024 What is the New York Apple Camp?The camp took place for the first time ever in July of 2023. It was held at the Ashokan Camp in New York State. The Ashokan Center is an independent music & nature nonprofit established in 2008. The musical history of this camp was a perfect fit for John’s keynote which also featured many references to musicians and songs.
Mentions in this Cider Chat 374: NY Apple Camp News! Bonus Cider Chat Live on NY Apple Camp 380: The Legacy of the Downing Brothers: Architects of Nature 388: French Origins of American Apples | The Grand-Mères 385: Cider’s Ki – Remix French Cider Tour 2024 -
Eli Shanks' of Punta de Fierro Fine Cider
In this episode meet Eli Shanks, a passionate cider maker sharing his journey from urban Massachusetts to the picturesque landscapes of Chile, where he co-founded Punta de Fierro Cider. Eli developed an early interest in food systems and agriculture with influences from attending The Farm School, working at The Food Project and running an orchard in Concord, Massachusetts.
Eli Shanks with bottle of Punta de Fierro The History of Cider in ChileChile has a rich tradition in fermenting apples into cider. Historically, cider production was a significant part of the local economy. Families were taxed based on their cider tank space, and cider apples were a staple in many homes. Chilean cider, known as "Chicha", is a farmhouse product with various local recipes, often fermented naturally with residual sugar.
Organizations and CollaborationsEli has co-founded the Chilean Cider Collective (COSIGI), which aims to preserve and promote Chile’s unique cider heritage. COSIGI works closely with the Department of Agriculture and other local organizations to support cider makers and enhance cider production quality.
Mother Pudu with baby Chilean Ciders Tasted in this Episode Punta de Fierro - is both the name of the cidery and the cider itself. This particular cider tasted during the recording was made in 2022. It was bottle #61 out of 771 bottles in total. All the apples came from one single orchard that Eli and his business partner Carlos Flores produce cider on. TenCai Sidra - this cidery is owned by Rene Galindo. We tried two ciders during the recording. The first cider called The Truth. This cider was co-fermented with an indigenous berry called Maqui. They are smaller than blueberries and lend a purplish hue to the cider. The second cider -called Futura was made by first grinding the apples and allowing them to macerate for approximately 24hours. The apple blend is Reineta and Braeburn.All the ciders were feremented dry and are delicious!
Contact Info for Punta de Fierro Website: https://puntadefierro.com/ Contact Info for TenCai Sidra Website: https://tencaisidra.cl/ Mentions in this Cider Chat Cider Chat info flyer - scroll down this page and download and post flyer! Tag Cider Chat and use hashtag #xpromotecider ciderGoingUP Campaign page - find a list of business supporting Cider Chat! -
Basque Cheesecake and Santa Cruz Cider
Cider Chat Live brings you a tasting of a celebratory cider from Santa Cruz Cider Company paires with a what is called Basque Cheesecake!
Basque Cheesecake is much less dense than classic New York cheesecake. It is crustless, and has a golden, beautiful caramelized exterior. It also has a much lighter texture and flavor. The cheesecake is baked at a high temperature in order to get that burnt exterior and super creamy interior.
In this Live on Cheesecake and Cider from Santa Cruz!This mini episode came about when Nicole Todd who cofounded Santa Cruz Cider Company in California with her sister Natalie. Nicole was traveling east to Maine with fellow book club members who she has been meeting monthly since covid kicked off in 2020.
They spent the evening with Ria, went for a swim to avoid the heat and drank copious amounts of cider and ended the evening with a special pairing of the 10 year anniversary cider with the Basque Cheesecake.
Hear about this anniversary cider and how it all started with foraged fruit in the Monterey Bay area of California. It is one part picking up fruit that turned into a relationship with an older orchardist in the Watsonville area of California.
Listen to past episodes with Nicole: 060: Nicole Todd | Santa Cruz Cider Company, CA 280: Why the Cider Maker Wears Fuzzy Slippers – describes the harrowing house fire that Nicole and her husband Felix survived! Contact for Santa Cruz Cider Company Website: https://santacruzciderco.com/ -
Wooden Gate: From Farm to Cidery with Clint Caver
Clint Cavers and his wife Pamela have been farming for over 30 years at Wooden Gate The Farm and cidery is based in Pilot Mound, Manitoba, Canada which is right over the border of North Dakato.
Clint’s journey from hobby fermenter to full-time cider maker now represents 95% of their farm’s focus. Initially homesteaders, they shifted towards cider making due to a passion for fermentation. Clint began making wine and cider about 25 years ago, initially with fruit wines before discovering the potential of apples.
The Shift to Full-Time Cider MakingIn 2018, Clint and Pam decided to turn their cider-making hobby into a business. By 2019, Wooden Gate obtained its official license, and in 2020, it became a full-time venture. This shift was motivated by their desire for a less labor-intensive activity and a need for fulfilling work after their children left home.
Orchard and Apple VarietiesWooden Gate’s orchard spans seven acres with about 800 trees, including winter-hardy varieties like
Goodland Norkent Norland Kerr – which is featured in the Orchard Queen cider that is tasted and discussed in this episode and various crab apples such as Rescue and TrailThey have also planted heritage varieties and some English cider apple varieties like Dabinette.
Cider Production and TechniquesClint emphasizes slow fermentation at low temperatures, with some fermentations lasting up to six months. Wooden Gate primarily uses cultured yeast, but experiments with wild ferments, particularly in their Orchard Queen cider. They produce about 50 cases of Orchard Queen annually and 300 gallons of other cider varieties.
Community and EventsWooden Gate hosts various events, including an annual cider release and pop-up pizza and cider nights. Their son-in-law, a chef, handles the cooking, while their daughter plans events. They also groom cross-country ski trails in the winter, turning them into walking trails in the summer.
Five Core Principles of Wooden Gate 1. Community: Creating a sense of community around their cider and farm. 2. Environmental Stewardship: Using organic, permaculture, and holistic management practices. 3. Sourcing Locally: Using locally grown fruit and selling locally. 4. Quality: Ensuring their cider represents their farm and Manitoba’s unique terroir. 5. Authenticity: Highlighting the distinct flavors of their region in their cider. Contact Info for Wooden Gate Cider Website: https://louisemb.com/m/wooden-gate-cider Mentions in this Cider Chat @spacetimemeads @woodengatecider @cultivarcreativestudio Listen to episode 190 Cider Revitalizes a 1750 Colonial Era Orchard | MA Stone Cow Brewery, Barre Massachusetts -
Paving a Path for Cider Branding at Cultivar
Meet Kirk Evans, the founder of Cultivar Creative. In this episode, Kirk shares his journey from a casual cider maker to a professional brand designer specializing in cider packaging and identity.
Kirk EvansCultivar Creative focuses on creating comprehensive brand identities that go beyond just a logo. Kirk emphasizes the importance of a cohesive brand voice, graphical elements, and a well-thought-out brand guideline to ensure consistency across all marketing materials. His approach ensures that even small cider brands can present themselves professionally and attractively to consumers.
The Journey to Cider Branding at CultivarKirk’s journey into the cider world began in early 2020 when he decided to try making cider at home. What started as a hobby quickly turned into an obsession, leading him to a career shift. With his extensive experience in design and marketing, Kirk saw a gap in the cider industry for specialized branding services. Thus, Cultivar Creative was born.
The Importance of Brand IdentityAccording to Kirk, brand identity in the cider industry involves more than just a logo. It encompasses everything from the brand’s voice to the graphical elements used in packaging. A strong brand identity helps cider makers communicate their story effectively and stand out on crowded shelves.
Kirk’s process includes creating detailed brand guidelines that outline all aspects of the brand’s visual and verbal identity. This comprehensive approach ensures that every piece of marketing material aligns with the brand’s core message and appeals to its target audience.
Branding Tips for Cider Makers Know Your Brand: Understand who you are as a brand and what you want to convey to your customers. Be Bold: Don’t be afraid to be bold and disruptive with your branding. Standing out is crucial in a competitive market. Consistency is Key: Ensure your branding is consistent across all platforms, from social media to packaging. Invest in Packaging: Eye-catching packaging can make a significant difference in attracting new customers. Contact Info for Cultivar Website: https://cultivarcreative.com/ Mentions in this Cider Chat French Cider Tour 2024 Who’s cross promoting cider #xpromotecider @spacetimemeads @sraml_machinery encourage followers to listen to episode 324 featuring Jan Šraml @degerdenner @3dogciderbrewstillery @hardciderguy -
Celebrating an Agricultural Legacy and the New England Apple Association
The New England Apple Association (NEAA), a venerable institution supporting apple growers across the New England states, will be closing its doors at the end of this fiscal year on June 30, 2024. This announcement, delivered by the NEAA's Executive Director, Russell Steven Powell, marks the end of an 89-year legacy dedicated to promoting and supporting the region’s apple industry. Hear Powell on Episode 245 present Apples of New England to the Amherst Historical society: a companion YouTube video of this informative presentation
The History of New England Apple AssociationThe NEAA, originally established in 1935 as the New York and New England Apple Institute, has played a pivotal role in the apple industry. The organization has evolved through the decades, reflecting changes in the industry and market dynamics. It became the Northeast Macintosh Growers Association in 1993 after New York established its own marketing organization and was eventually renamed the New England Apple Association.
Contributions and ChallengesUnder the leadership of Russell Steven Powell, who has served as the Executive Director since 1997, the NEAA has been instrumental in various advocacy efforts, marketing campaigns, and educational initiatives aimed at supporting New England apple growers. Powell, an author of two acclaimed books on apples, “America’s Apple” and “Apples of New England,” has been a prominent figure in the organization, driving its mission forward.
Russell Stevens PowellDespite its contributions, the NEAA has faced significant challenges in recent years. Changes in the New England apple industry, a shift from wholesale markets to retail orchards, and the rise of diversified attractions such as pick-your-own, bakeries, and tasting rooms have impacted the organization's traditional business model. This shift, while beneficial for many orchards, appears to have presented a challenge for the NEAA, ultimately leading to the decision to close.
The Impact and Future of Apples in New EnglandThe closure of the NEAA is a significant loss for the New England apple community. The association has been a valuable resource for apple growers and enthusiasts, providing information on apple varieties, orchard locations, and industry developments. The NEAA's contributions to the agricultural heritage of New England will be remembered fondly.
As we reflect on this bittersweet moment, it is crucial to acknowledge the dedication and hard work of individuals like Russell Stevens Powell and the many volunteers who have supported the NEAA over the years. Their efforts have left an indelible mark on the apple industry in New England.
Supporting Local AgricultureThe closure of the NEAA underscores the importance of supporting local agricultural organizations and initiatives. As Al Sax, who joins Cider Chat Host Ria Windcaller in this episode and is a lifelong champion of apple cider making and education, highlights in this episode, the sustainability of local agriculture depends on active participation and support from the community. Organizations like the American Cider Association, state-level cider guilds, and other regional agricultural groups play a vital role in promoting and preserving our agricultural heritage.
Vote With Your DollarsAl discussed how he makes his money count by, "voting with your dollars." This philosophy underscores the importance of using our financial choices to support the organizations and causes we believe in. By purchasing memberships, donating, and buying products from local orchards and agricultural associations, we can directly impact their sustainability and success. Al practices what he preaches, supporting CiderChat and other agricultural initiatives that align with his passion for apples and cider. His commitment serves as a reminder that our spending habits can make a meaningful difference in preserving and promoting the agricultural heritage and local businesses we cherish.
Contact Emails for the New England Apple Association Russ Holmberg, Chair: [email protected] - Holmberg Orchards, Gales Ferry, Connecticut Steve Rowse, Vice-Chair: [email protected] Giff Burnap, Secretary/Treasurer: [email protected] - Butternut Farm, Farmington, New Hampshire Mentions in this Cider Chat PA Cider Fest – June 15, 2024 Use Promo Code: CIDERVILLE for $10 tickets! French Cider Tour 2024 Who’s cross promoting cider #xpromotecider @spacetimemeads @redislandcider @degerdenner -
Crank the Bach & Go Boating with Green Bench in Hand
Brian Wing of Green Bench Mead and Cider is a classical music fan. Green Bench is located in Saint Petersburg, Florida and Brian was recently on episode 398 which is a must listen. Usually, we wait a bit here at Cider Chat Central to have a guest back on, but when a delivery of cider arrived from Brian, with 4 select bottles, the opportunity arose once again have a chat.
Single Varietals to Bach Chamber Blends Black Twig: An Earthy Delight Brian starts the conversation by discussing the Black Twig, a cider crafted from the 2022 crop. This cider showcases a unique blend of 80% Black Twig and 20% Chestnut Crab apples. Brian describes the Black Twig as having a peachy blush color with a flavor profile that includes low acidity, apple Redfield: The Rosé of Ciders The Redfield, a single varietal cider made from 100% Redfield apples. Known for its vibrant red flesh, this cider offers a stunning color and a flavor profile dominated by cranberry and citrus aromas. Brian highlights the high acidity and minerality of this cider, making it a perfect rosé alternative for brunch or any occasion. Malus: A Flagship Cider Brian introduces the Malus, a cider that he considers the flagship of Green Bench. This cider is a blend of 12-13 apple varieties, including Dabinett, Kingston Black, Chisel Jersey, Black Twig, Chestnut, and Hughes Crab. The result is a balanced and rounded cider with a complex flavor profile that pays homage to French ciders. With an alcohol by volume of just over 7%, the Malus is a versatile and drinkable cider. Celebrity Chef Brian Duffy loved the Malus – listen to this special ep: 401 Episode 401: Celebrity Chef Brian Duffy | Cider Pairing Tips Chaconne: A High Acid Symphony The final cider discussed is the Chaconne, named after Johann Sebastian Bach’s Partita No. 2. This high acid cider is a blend of Wickson, Yates, and Harrison apples. Brian describes the Chaconne as having intense pear and citrus aromas, a mouthwatering acidity, and a unique flavor profile that includes tropical fruit and a touch of black pepper. The label, featuring three robed skeletons playing violins, adds to the artistic and esoteric nature of this cider. Listen to Johann Sebastian Bach’sViolinist Jascha Heifetz is featured via the link below
Album cover for Jascha Heifetz which features Bach Chaconne d-Moll aus der Partita Nr. 2 https://archive.org/details/chaconne-d-moll-heifetz Contact for Green Bench Brewing, Mead & Cider Website https://www.greenbenchbrewing.com/mead-cider Listen to Episode 398: Cider in Florida? Visit Green Bench Brewing, Mead & Cider Mentions in this Cider Chat PA Cider Fest – June 15, 2024 Who’s been cross promoting cider #xpromotecider French Cider Tour 2024 Who’s cross promoting cider #xpromotecider @spacetimemeads Social Scranton on Facebook – page for the city of Scranton, PA @degerdenner @tomoliverscider @ciderexplorer @thompsons_brood -
What exactly are Cider Hybrids
Exploring Cider Hybrids and Co-ferments as recored at a panel discussion at CiderCon 2024. The terminology for this category is still developing, reflecting the innovative and experimental nature of these beverages. As producers continue to explore and create unique blends and co-ferments, the language will evolve to better capture the diversity and creativity inherent in these new cider expressions.
In this episode of Cider ChatDelve into the innovative and creative world of cider hybrids and co-ferments with a panel of expert cider makers from around the globe to discuss the nuances, challenges, and joys of creating these unique beverages.
The discussion opens with a brief introduction to the panelists:
Christine Hardy – Co-owner and cider maker at Riley’s Cidery on Bowen Island, BC, and board member of the Cider Institute of North America. Tom Oliver – Cider and Perry maker at Oliver’s Cider and Perry in Herefordshire, England. Ryan Burk – Owner and cider maker at Occam Cider. Johan Sjöstedt – Founder and cider maker at Pomologik in Sweden. Kathleen Cherry – Winemaker and co-owner of Calche Wine Cooperative in Vermont. Tariq – Cider maker at Revel Cider in Ontario, Canada. (ltor) Tariq Ahmed, Kathline Chery, Johan Sjöstedt, Ryan Burk, Tom Oliver Panelist Questions on the topic of Cider Hybrids Defining Cider Hybrids and Co-ferments: Challenges and Regulatory Issues in this category Innovative Ingredients and Techniques Marketing and Consumer Perception Advice for Aspiring Cider Makers Contact Information for Speakers: Christine Hardy – Riley’s Cidery Tom Oliver – Oliver’s Cider and Perry – Listen to Episode 366 with Tom Ryan Burk – Occam Cider Johan Sjöstedt – Pomologik – Listen to Episode 399 with Johan Kathline Chery – Kalche Wine Cooperative Tariq Ahmed – Revel Cider Listen to Episode 405 with Tariq Mentions in this Cider Chat PA Cider Fest – June 15, 2024 Locust Grove Brewing Company – Milton, New York Who’s been cross promoting cider #xpromotecider French Cider Tour 2024 Who’s cross promoting cider #xpromotecider @degerdenner @Berkshire_Cider @deansbeanscoffee Albemarle Cider Works @lapommelie -
Businesses Certified as a B Corp Stand Out!
Explore the benefits of B Corp certification with leaders from solar, candle, coffee, and cider industries. Learn about their challenges and successes in creating positive social and environmental impact.
In this Cider ChatEnjoy this informative panel discussion led by Bridget Sprague of Revision Energy with Ted Barber of Prosperity Candle, Beth Spong of Dean’s Beans Organic Coffee and Kat Hand of Berkshire Cider Project.
Listen as they share their experiences, challenges, and successes in becoming and maintaining B Corp certified. The conversation highlights the value of this business model in creating positive social and environmental impact through business.
Feature with B Corps begins at (10:04 minutes)
Introduction to B Corps Guest Introductions and Their Businesses Bridget Sprague: Vice President at Revision Energy, a solar company based in Maine and Massachusetts, B Corp since 2015, 100% employee-owned, nearly 500 employees. Ted Barber: Co-founder of Prosperity Candle, B Corp since 2014, supporting refugees through handmade products. Beth Spong: CEO of Dean’s Beans Organic Coffee, established in 1993, focusing on organic, fair trade coffee, and recently became a worker-owned cooperative. Kat Hand: Co-founder of Berkshire Cider Project, B Corp since April 2023, focused on celebrating the Berkshire region through locally sourced hard cider. Why They Became B Corps Bridget Sprague: To ensure accountability and maintain a high standard of business practices. Ted Barber: The combination of environmental sustainability and social impact aligned with their mission to support refugees. Beth Spong: To affirm their mission of social, economic, and environmental justice through specialty coffee. Kat: To align their business with personal values of sustainability and accountability. Challenges and Wins as a B Corp Community and Marketing Impact The Panel Shares their Favorite B Corps Find a B Corp in your Area and Industry Go to the following website to find a B Corp: https://www.bcorporation.net/en-us/find-a-b-corp/ Current list of Cider Brands certified as a B Corp Berkshire Cider Project | Massachusetts Since 2023 Ernest Cider Ltd Since 2017 Ramborn Cider, Luxembourg Since 2020 FinnRiver Farm and Cidery, Washington state Since 2015 Sxollie, South Africa Since 2022 How to get Certified as a B Corp Website: https://bcorporation.uk/b-corp-certification/what-is-a-b-corp/ Contact for B Corp Panel Speakers Bridget Sprague – Revision Energy B Corp since 2015 Website: Revision Energy Ted Barber – Prosperity Candle B Corp since 2014 Website: Prosperity Candle Beth Spong – Dean’s Beans Organic Coffee B Corp since 2018 Website: Dean’s Beans Organic Coffee Kat Hand – Berkshire Cider Project B Corp since 2023 Website: Berkshire Cider Project Mentions in this Cider Chat PA Cider Fest – June 15, 2024 Who’s been cross promoting cider #xpromotecider @ThyCider @degerdenner @yanngilles.cidre @raging_cider @rawcider @pressthenpress @ciderexplorer @sowamsciderworks @ryan_and_caseyliquors French Cider Tour 2024 -
Is Ancestral Method different than Pet Nat?
This panel discussion on Ancestral Method was moderate by Nicole Leibon of LeNosse Knows consultation. She was joined by Yann Gilles, a French cider consultant, Levi Danielson of Oregon's RAW cider and David Carr of California's Raging Cider. This feature was was recorded at CiderCon 2024, the annual trade conference hosted by the American Cider Association.
(ltor) Nicole LeGrand Liebon, Yann Gilles, Levi Danielson, Dave CarrThe discussion centers around various aspects of cider production, specifically highlighting traditional cider-making methods like the "ancestral method.
Topics discuss on this panel Cider Making Methods and Personal Backgrounds of each speaker Ancestral Method of Cider Production This traditional method of cider making is particularly prominent in Normandy and Brittany, France. It involves a two-step fermentation process: the first step is in tanks and the second in bottles, intentionally leaving both fermentations incomplete to retain some natural sugars and create a sparkling cider. Technical Details in Cider Fermentation Discussions delve into the technical specifics such as controlling yeast population, managing nitrogen levels in the must, and how these factors affect the cider’s quality and character. Influence of Environmental Factors Various environmental factors like orchard age, apple variety, and climatic conditions impact the nitrogen content in apples, which in turn affects the cider's fermentation process Cider Quality Control Techniques Techniques like racking, filtration, and the use of centrifuges are explored to manage fermentation and ensure quality. Packaging and Bottling Considerations The choice of bottles, pressure management during second fermentation, and how these factors impact the safety and quality of the final cider product are discussed Cider Tasting and Consumer Preferences The session included a cider tasting, emphasizing the importance of understanding consumer preferences and the impact of specific cider-making techniques on the flavor and appeal of the cider. 2022 Cidre AOP Pays d'Auge Cuvée Réserve | Manoir de Grandouet (Normandy) 2023 AW Cider Pet Nat | RAW Cider Company (Oregon) 2020 Disco Nat, Metal House Cider (New York) Jonathan & Liberty | Raging Cider & Mead Company (California)Enjoy this detailed exploration highlights both the science and the art behind cider making, from orchard management to bottling and consumer satisfaction.
Contact info for Ancestral Methods Panel Nicole LeGrand Liebon - @nicolegrandleibon - Vermont Yann Giles - @yanngilles.cidre - France Levi Danielson - RAW Cider - Oregon David Carr - Raging Cider and Mead Company - Southern California Mentions in this Cider Chat PA Cider Fest - June 15, 2024 Who's been cross promoting cider #xpromotecider Sidra Santiago artesanal sidreria - Craft cider. Heritage Chilean apples. In the heart of Santiago, Chile French Cider Tour 2024 is Sold Out -
Find the latest Cider Dispatch from Highland County Virginia
Cider Bon Vivant Reporter Al Sax provide a cider dispatch report from Monterey Virginia. This area of Virginia is known as Highland County and it is here that Big Fish Cider is located. One of the cool extras (beside cider) when visiting this region, is that it is a Dark Sky area. This means good star grazing due to the lack of night lights drowning out the night sky.
Al interviews Big Fish Cider Maker and Owner Kirk Billingsley. Kirk was last on Cider Chat in Episode 124. That recording took place in 2018 at CiderCon the annual trade conference for the American Cider Association
Ria with Big Fish pulled chilled from the stream Changes at Big Fish from 2018 -2024 400 apple trees planted Can order Big Fish online Tasting room open Friday -Sunday Contact for Big Fish Cider Co. Website: https://www.bigfishcider.com/about-us/ eMail: [email protected] Telephone: (540) 468-2322 Address 59 Spruce Street, Monterey, VA 24465 Work with Cider Chat – Provide Cider Dispatches Too!If you enjoy sharing your love of cider and also have a knack for conversation? Why not share some of your local cider hot spots and interview a favored maker.
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Mentioned in this Cider Chat Hear from Cider Chat’s newest patron Josh from Australia Who’s been cross promoting cider #xpromotecider Abaliget Garden Projects – Cider, Perry and Fruit wines Megan Faschoway – Junction Orchard and Ciderhouse Rakkerpak Cider – Denmark Thy Cider – Denmark Big Fish Cider posted the Cider Chat info flyer in their tasting room √ Only one seat left on the French Cider Tour 2024 Work with Cider Chat – Record audio snap shots from your special spot in Ciderville @joshcreates Tom Oliver of Oliver’s Cider and Perry Ltd audio clip! Thy Cider in Denmark Cross Promotes Cider Chat -
Technical Tips for When Things Go Wrong with Cider Making
This episode features two cider professionals and a cider industry consultant, which is exactly who you need a direct line to when your cider has problems. Hear from Megan Faschoway who at the time of this recording was Senior Cider Maker at Sea Cider, Kira Bassingthwaighte Head Cider Maker at Western Cider in Montana and Nick Gunn of BenchGraft a cider consultation service based in Salem Oregon.
This talk took place in Portland Oregon at CiderCon, the annual cider conference hosted by the American Cider Association. The title of the talk was “What to do when things go wrong”.
The focus was not on preventive measures, but as the title says – curative steps that one can take to try to mitigate a problem with a particular cider
In this Cider Chat on Cider Problems Dealing with rotten egg smell from your cider Hydrogen sulfide (H2S) is a negative off-aroma compound that can occur in cider and has a rotten egg smell. It’s produced by the yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae during cider fermentation. Filtering cider Using Reverse Osmosis (RO) Tasting Panels for feedback Dealing with a saturated cider maker’s palate Saving samples from each batch to create a library for potential cider problems down the road Contact for Speakers on this Panel Kira Bassingthwaighte, Western Cider Hear Kira on Episode 295 Megan Faschoway Nick Gunn BenchGraft Hear Nick and Dave White of Whitewood Cider on Episode 004 Mentions in this Cider Chat French Cider Tour September 2024 Oliver’s Cider and Perry Company – UK Cider in Herefordshire, Tom Oliver audio clip The Whose Who of #xpromotecider in this episode? Join the fun and download the info flyer on Cider Chat offerings at the Support Page! Post, share and social media and tag Cider Chat! Cider’s XPromoters will be featured on an end of year episode! De Gerdenner Cider, Netherland Northwest Cider Association reposted Episode 410 with Olympic Bluffs Cider and Lavender Farm Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Company posted last week’s Episode 410 Perry Panel Dragon’ Head Cider Camra Cider and Perry American Cider Association – CiderCon -
Cider’s Best Friend is Perry
Enjoy this panel discussion “Pear Necessities: International Perry recorded at CiderCon 2024. The panel was moderated by drinks writer, Adam Wells of the UK. Sitting to his right was Tom Oliver of Olivers Cider and Perry Ltd (UK), Laura Cherry of Dragon’s Head Cider (Washington State), Albert Johnson of Ross and Wye Cider and Perry Company (UK) and cider critic and blogger Natalia Wszelaki (Germany).
(L to R) Tom Oliver (Oliver’s Cider and Perry), Albert Johnson (Ross-on-Wye Cider), Laura Cherry (Dragon’s Head Cider), Natalia Wszelaki (Cider Explorer), Adam Wells (Cider Review) Topics discussed during this Perry Panel Introduction of Perry Panel Speakers Overview of Perry in both Europe, the UK and America Tasting profiles of 4 Perry’s Oliver’s Cider and Perry Ltd. (UK) SHHH Ross on Wye Cider & Perry Company (UK) Thorn 2019 S.V. Perry Kertelreiter (Germany) Heiden 2021 Single Tree Perry Dragon’s Head Cider (Washington State, US) Sparkling Perry Perry critique of servings via Natalia a.k.a Cider Explorer Shared a bit of history of perry in Austria, Switzerland and Germany Pear Cider vs Perry – are they interchangeable New Perry Book (May 2024)Perry: A Drinker’s Guide, author Adam Wells of Cider Review
Mentions in this Cider Chat French Cider Tour September 2024 Oliver’s Cider and Perry Company – UK Cider in Herefordshire, Tom Oliver audio clip The Whose Who of #xpromotecider in this episode? Join the fun and download the info flyer on Cider Chat offerings at the support page! Post, share and social media and tag Cider Chat! Cider’s XPromoters will be featured on an end of year episode! Spacetime Mead & Cider Works, Dunmore, PA The London Cider House Rakkerpak Cider, Denmark @snoopylovescider – referred to a Cider Chat episode with Stormalong Cider. There are currently two episodes with this Massachusetts based maker Episode 036 (Season 1) and 236 Scrub a Dub Valves and Vessels which is part of the Season 5 Cider Making series. American Cider Association – CiderCon -
Escape to Olympic Bluffs a Dream Vacation Destination
Olympic Bluffs Cidery & Lavender Farm is located on the northern coast of the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State. The farm is on a bluff that overlooks the Salish Sea, which spans the international waters between British Columbia and Washington State. The location is dreamy with views of Mount Baker, a 10,000+ foot mountain, to the east and Victoria Canada to the north.
Olympic Bluffs was founded by Ginger and Scott Wierzbanowski, who found farm land years early on a trip to Washington State. Both are Air Force Veterans with Ginger serving as an Intel Officer and Scott as an Air Force F 16 pilot.
Scott and Ginger next to F 16 – note Scott’s name on planeThe two met in Korea, married in Denmark, and lived in Europe where in France they discovered Calvados. Years later their love of cider helped frame Olympic Bluffs Cidery and Lavender Farm which has an onsite Lavender shop, a cider production area, a Bed and Breakfast next door, and a commercial location where a future tasting room will be situated in downtown Port Angeles.
In this Cider Chat The Wierzbanowski’s backstory to cider. Why a cidery and lavender farm in Port Angeles? What does the location look like? When and how can people visit? Is there a best time? The orchards, Size, terrain, soil type Number of apple varieties and (pear?) Orchard practices What products Olympic Bluffs currently sells Types of cider to expect? What has informed your cider making styles? Future plans Contact for Olympic Bluffs Cidery & Lavender Farm Website: https://www.olympicbluffscidery.com/ Address: 1025 Finn Hall Rd, Port Angeles, WA 98362 Telephone: +13606707206 Mentions in this Cider Chat French Cider Tour September 2024 Oliver’s Cider and Perry Company – UK Cider in Herefordshire, Tom Oliver audio clip The Whose Who of #xpromotecider in this episode? Join the fun and download the info flyer on Cider Chat offerings at the support page! Post, share and social media and tag Cider Chat! Cider’s XPromoters will be featured on an end of year episode! Spacetime Mead & Cider Works, Dunmore, PA Heartland Ciderworks, OR – watch the “Bottles On My Desk” review of Avalon Rakkerpak Cider, Denmark Know Your Roots, orchard consulting | NY -
Mike Biltonen and his wife Debbie founded Know Your Roots in 2008 and began offering a wide array of service for backyard and commercial orchardists in 2014.
MikeThis conversation tool place at the Berkshire Roundtable that was founded my Micheal Phillips 34 years ago. This annual meet up of orchardist and cider makers takes place in Massachusetts each spring. It is an informal discussion amoungst peers all on growing apples and assorted pomme fruits. Micheal Phillips was a renown orchardist and author of many books like The Holistic Orchard. Find all his books at Cider Chat’s book page. Listen to episode 312 dedicated to Micheal.
In this Cider Chat The backstory of Know Your Roots Services offered by Know Your Roots What to consider before planting an orchard Mike’s background in Biodynamic (BD) orcharding Defining Holistic Orcharding Making a BD preparation Climate change – dealing with late season frost The future at Know Your Roots and…cider? Mike and Ria recording this episode Contact for Know Your Roots Website: https://knowyouroots.com/index.html Mentions on this Cider Chat Rudolf Steiner Josephine Porter Institute for Applied Biodynamics (JPI) #xpromotecider in this episode Listen to Dan of Space Time Mead & Ciderworks Bones and Bottles Review – on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/boneandbottlereviews/?hl=en Listen to Episode 407 with Dan Gallagher of Frosty Twig Cider Follow Ben Kuenš on Chocalate Pears – listen to his episode #304 all on Sorbus Domestica -
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A Cider Log Documents Ferments from Start to FinishFind a free downloadable Cider Log for your next ferment below! Dan Gallagher of Frosty Twig Cider, a new startup based in Canton New York, has created a form for your next batch of cider. Dan who began making cider in 2017 found online cider making forums and cider influencer tips both informative, but also conflicting. The Cider Log was created to track what actually does or doesn’t work when fermenting.
In This Cider Chat with Dan Gallagher Dan’s backstory The value of a Cider Log His goal for Frosty Twig Cider to begin commerical sales A step by step review of each stage of a cider ferment From sourcing fruit to bottling Working with Canton ApplesFollow along as we review this filled in Cider Log below with Dan.
Contact for Frosty Twig Cider Instagram @frostytwigciderDownload this Cider Log for your next ferment. By going to https://ciderchat.com/podcast/407-cider-log/
Mentions in this Cider Chat French Cider Tour 2024 A mentioned by Dan in this episode The Building a Cidery Series Part 1-7 255: Trademark Law | Building a Cidery Part 1 256 Securing a Trademark | Building a Cidery Part 2 257: Courthouse Creek Garagistes | Building a Cidery Part 3 258: Ragged Hill Design | Building a Cidery Part 4 259: Artifact Cityscape | Building a Cidery Part 5 260: Eris Brewery and Cider House | Building a Cidery Part 6 261: Yonder & The Source | Building a Cidery Part 7 262: Virtual Cidery | Building a Cidery Part 8 #XPromoteCider – Cross Promote Cider and get mentioned on Cider Chat. Download the info flyer, post in your tasting room or favorite bulletin board and load up to Social Media. Make sure to tag Cider Chat (@ciderchat or @ciderchatciderville) -
Japan is not only Cherry Blossom, but also Apple Country!
Lee Reeve of InCiderJapan kicks off this episode stating “Japan is Apple Country.” And he is right… because Lee has been on the podcast 3x’s and has taught listeners all about this apple country and the regions were orchards are abundant that the growing cider community.
He is the Publisher and Editor of inCiderJapan, the country’s first and only bilingual magazine dedicated to all things cider. He was first on the podcast in Episode 114 and again in Episode 173. Each time we were able to catch up on the happenings in Japan. By the way, there are two main apple growing regions: Aomori to Nagano.
In this Cider Chat Cider in Japan post the pandemic and updates for Lee as his role evolves The state of cider today Japanese culture and cider education Rules around making cider in Japan The Japan Cider Cup OK Adam Cider a Japanese cider brand Contact InCiderJapan Website: https://www.inciderjapan.com/ Japan Cider Cup – https://www.japancidercup.com/ Mentions in this Cider Chat New York International Cider Competition 2024 French Cider Tour 2024 – September 22th – 28th Paris, Normandy, Brittany Greenbank Cider, Washington State #xpromotecider – Share the Cider Chat Podcast Info Flyer and help your patrons and friends find over 400 episodes on makers, orchards and cider travel. This week’s mentions: Follow our friend Marcel who is making cider in the Netherlands on Instragram @degerdenner Wooden Gate Cider – Pilot Mound, Manitoba Heartland Ciderworks Find these ciders on tap at La Familla Cider and definitely try the tacos at Azuls Taco House - Mostrar mais
