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Sarah Andrews has this way of stripping back the noise & replacing hustle with humility. A gentle woman, who describes herself as '90% introvert', she has crated beautiful spaces by considering them her palette to tell stories & then inviting in a global community of folk to share her special space.
The key, she says, to creating spaces that are warm, nurturing and supportive of the community they are designed to hold, is to be sure that “beautiful is not the ‘budget”.
“My plan was to teach a few what I knew and then go sailing but it didn't happen like that because what was being taught was so special & it really did what it said on the box”
Today the futuresteading pod invites you to open the box and learn ways to create spaces that nurture togetherness.
Things we talked about:
Hosting masterclass - Sarahs online program
The Poetry of Spaces - Sarah Andrews
Captains Rest - Sarah's AccommodationSupport the show
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How a tumultuous life has lead her to creating spaces that make her feel safe
Spaces that make you feel the way you want to feel & be the best we can
Finding your medium to create stories - art, verbal words, design, written words,
Walking the line of being a hermit that is alone but not wanting to be alone
Understanding her ratio for a happy life - for her its 90% introverted
Attracting people together but without the obligation of having to hold them all.
“I’d found an internal happiness as a host and wanted to gift that to others”
“Hosting & creating spaces is a science which can be broken down into a process?
Frustration with the creative world using words that don't have meaningful measure.
Building tools that could be taught to people who don't think they're creative.
It’s easy to copy something if you've got a big budget but if you’re creating something that’s creative & individual then the real beauty is uncovered
“For many reasons captains rest should not have been a success but when it was I was inundated with people asking me to help them do the same for them”
Humility in creating a global network of minded individuals
"I don’t have the energy for it to be all about me so it’s lovely to see a community of people connecting from the comfort of my couch"
Every year I just do what I can - which is different every year - there’s no strategy but it feels good & works for me.
Enough is not about doing more, having more, seeing more, it’s about how much you can give to the world.
Building a meaningful community of people she loves & trusts
I’m a three friend type of person - they’ve seen me through every part of my life
Being part of a community that is protective of one another & generous
Inner huddles & outer huddles
Our community is a success because it’s genuine - it’s not a side hustle or a business venture - I’d be doing it anyway.
The thing that always links to success is ‘realness’ - when it lights up people’s eyes you know it's true. It’s those who have the bravery to follow that
A better way of being a community of people interacting with one another is when we sidestep division.
Being led by kindness - one of the hardest but most rewarding things about being alive.Support the Show.
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Summary:
In a world of consumption & content this chat ponders which containers for connection are going to hold us in relationships that are strong enough to navigate sickness & health, vitality & misery & how we build bridges to thread our significant worlds into one place so we can be ‘whole’. Over & above the individual, we ask ‘how do we build cultures where ‘welcome’ is the default & division is not normalised.Casper TerKuile is an articulate, poetic communicator who believes that ritual holds the key for much of this transition work. Where we buck the system, going beyond the prioritising of comfort at the expense of belonging. Casper lyrically leads us through making everyday things deeply intentional, shared moments of magic that change our attitude to the mundane & bring magic to the small threads of potential delight.
In a desire to move beyond the morass of 'MEH' we consider that whatever the problem - community is the answer & how we might build bridges to connect everyone's efforts to create the necessary structures. What ever they are - you can’t treat community like a shopping centre - waiting to serve your every whim but with nothing offered in return.In an unexpected twist we ask: How would someone farm humans? - a lot more singing & dancing & a lot less sitting behind a desk
We Chatted About:
Power of Ritual - Casper ter Kuille - rhymes with Smile
Nearness Project
The Overstory - Richard Powers
A Paradise Built in Hell - Rebecca SolnitSupport the Show
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How are community & spirituality changing
Less than half the population now consider themselves religious - lowest in history
How can we connect more deeply with the people who matter
Exploring spirituality
Creating pathways to build deeper relationships & bonds
Creating collaborative covenants - Professional relationships as defined by the way ‘we want to be together’.
Sacred reading - one of the most profound reading practices - as much about how you are reading as what you are reading
“I may not be guilty but we are all responsible”
Potluck dinners to build communities of warmth
Is your “place” where the trees look like they should?
Does placeless-ness contribute to a sense of cosmic loneliness?
Seeing the best of people in tough times - it calls for the best in people
We were once born into a ‘role’ and way of being
Making our day to day decisions through the framework of regeneration that results in life.
Anti elite vitriol in rural USA emphasised and polarised by social media companies
Relational cohesion
Nose to tail eating…meat eaten with reverence. Honouring the beast that gave its life
The value of policy makers in our period of transition
I went to graduate school on divinity and public politics
Why change makers need to find homes at all tiers of system changeSupport the Show.
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Illustrator extraordinaire is back to chat! Brenna's talent lies in taking hairy, complex systemic issues and distilling them into bite-sized, actionable messages using just her pencil (& of course her magnificent capacity for critical thought). We check in with her latest updates from life on the road with her partner Charlie McGee touring with his band and they're latest project, building a strawbale small home in Denmark Western Australia.
We unpack why being a purpose-led creative who's her own boss can be tough but shine a light on the delight of living a life that is cobbled together with many small magic opportunities.
We get the low down on what life is like in an intentional community - “By being consistently kind and loving, the soul of my community is full of gifting, generosity and a vibrant sharing economy”
We lamented the state of deep division we're all experiencing and talked frankly about how she's breaking down these divisions in her own world by finding a higher goal to focus on which allows you to set aside your ideological and ethical differences, focusing on the overlap areas instead.
There is often truth on both sides of peoples belief coins - deep valid beliefs that justify both sides of the coin.
It's a winding conversation - join us!Things we chatted about:
Formidable Vegetable - latest album
Dopelganger - Naomi Klein
Brenna Quinlan onlineSupport the show
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Being on the road gives energy and fresh ideas but 1.5 years was too long
Home to build a straw bale tiny home
Learning to switch off as a freelancer - a unique occupational hazard in the gig economy
Triple edged sword of being a freelancer, a creative and purpose driven
Having some structure in an unstructured life has meant life feels happier
Leaning on her community to carry her through the grief of her Dad
Covid fractured the global permaculture movement but the permaculture convergence was a magnificent opportunity to heal the Australian contingent of the permaculture movement. It was about inclusivity.
Respectful, inclusive and joyful interaction allows for permaculture to be the peoples movement
I’m not the permaculture police but she has been able to maintain relationships with people who have different beliefs to her in the interest of maintaining conversation so everybody has the ability to reach out to somebody
The Left in general has been fractured by extremism and also by an inability for us to accept a belief that differs
Its ok to feel comfortable with someone’s belief that differs to you
Communities can teach us how to ask for help
If you have a profile - go to a funeral - it perks the grieving up no end - Three cheers for costa who showed up for her dads funeral
Her word - Warmth - like an energetic blanket being worn around during the dark days, their love can be feltSupport the Show.
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Join Billa, co founder of the Wild School, as we navigate back into our custodial selves. Where we use head, hands & heart to rebuild the connective processes that help us become deeply connected people to place & each other. This process requires us to not only think but to really feel, 'It needs to be remembered in the body at a cellular level. “In our bones as women we have generations of wisdom & the sisterhood brings this to life”
'We are designed to live in tribal sized groups & to take care of country but we lack the skills so it's time to unlearn & relearn.'
The right environment will trigger the hard wired settings to make us what we are designed to be & the process of relearning how to live together will be more than just building houses & spaces or owning land.
Billa & her husband Chief have been doing this earth connection & village making work their entire lives & she is measuring her experiences against something in her bones. She is doing this via 5 sacred pathways - these being food as medicine, nature connection, ceremony & ritual, village making & art is medicine. A pedagogy you cannot be schooled on, you need to embody them through experience.
The most potent experience of all she says is to have gratitude for the mother. Us two-legged humans form a story - “we are merely the current fruiting mushroom of the ancestral mycelium”. its time to be reminded of this in our modern day story.
Things we chatted about
Wildschool
Gaia University
8 shields movement - Jon Young
Tyson Yinkaporta - right story, wrong storySupport the Show
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Moving towards a life that moves in circles rather than being square & rigid - finding the sisterhood, herbal medicine, permaculture.
Women need women but we specifically need sisterhood where we share wisdom & DO together - craft, learn, share,
DIY-ing her own home at 24
Intentional communities - are they a study in failure or can we really do this?
Permaculture has been foundational alongside womens wisdom
Being alive ‘in village’
Finding our way back through the cultural repair journey via the 8 shields movement & the 64 cultural elements
Connecting to country to continue as a species
Reconciling our history is foundational to rebuilding culture
You can’t ground community without the land but you can’t just buy land & assume the community will come - the truth of the land needs to be reconciled.
What we eat is our relationship to the earth mother - it plugs us back in
Rebuilding deep connection requires all five sacred pathways to be present
Are we existing in captivity
Decolonising our body through food
Building next level connection with our ancestors
We’ve stopped knowing our bodies
What else comes with your DNA? More than height or eyes colour
The humble shall inherit the earth
Check in with what your ‘baseline’ is - very high in western culture
Taking care of the baseline & being able to appreciate it is freeing because you can let go of the noisy material things which takes up all the space & consume you.
White privilege blinkers - question what was taken in order for us to have thisSupport the Show.
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The majority of us are living in cities, and the sad truth is that these highly inhabited hubs are food deserts. Places where food certainty is uncertain and what we do have available is a rapidly homogenising food landscape. The Food Lab is a program based in Sydney and designed to find ways to bring people closer to the soil that grows our food. Creating networks that cross disciplinary boundaries and support the birthing of language and connection points for the influx of migrants unable to translate our food culture.
We chat about ways of introducing people from communities who have different cultural backgrounds. Finding catalysts to move outside of their communities to share knowledge, culture and business capability.
At the foundation of all of this food culture building is TRUST. Jamie says 'You can’t go and eat at someone’s table without trust". TRUST is at the centre of everything. When someone cooks a meal for you, you build trust. You can’t love someone without trust first.
"I have the faith that my brother loves me when he cooks for me"
Finally, his key advice is 'If you aren’t blessed with enough resources to travel, consider connecting to the cultural pockets in your own city".
Things we talked about
Food Lab
Beau Miles: Cook River episode on You Tube
Bread and butter projectSupport the show
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A lotta rockiness along the way but it grew & evolved with the participants needs
Particularly focussed on female, migrant communities
Marginalised communities using food to connect with one another
Building the diversity of the food landscape in Sydney
Food is something that can be offered even when life is filled with utter newness
Eliminating the potential of putting too much debt at the outset of a business
“Assets are power in hospitality”
The food scene is in danger of becoming homogenised due to the cost of establishment
The power of mentorship to avoid the loneliness of business
The chicken and egg of being small and not well resourced but being flooded with applications for support
Providing a strong stepping stone to graduate people to their own kitchens
Impact multipliers - equipping people to support others
100% of the people will employ 4-7 people in the next 3 years
Why our urban centres are food deserts
Pomegranate molasses as a way to connect cultural groups
Normalising enough and not needing to be ‘excessive’
The power of sharing a meaningful recipe
There’s something in recipes that lead people back to independence - Food speaks to our identities, holds our stories, this cant be taken away from someone
As soon as you remove language you remove culture. When food is a language, it can’t be taken from you.
Everyone has a recipe they just want to share
What does it look like to belong to a huddle in a city -
You don't realise how rich culture is until you bust out of your safety zone and look in as an outsider
He feels shame for growing up in such a place of privilege which buffered him from the realities of other pockets in exactly the same city but with much less privilege.
“I grew up with a lack of multiculturalism but food can bridge that and connect you to communities you mightn't have had access to”Singular word - TRUST
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Maria Konecsky refers often to her ancestral memory. For her the way back to those who came before her has been through food. She says “Our food lines, hold our story, no matter what it is, whether its pretty or ugly, grand or humble it holds richness and grit and love and loss” It’s such a beautiful way to unpack our heritage - through food, in her case it’s sometimes ugly food made with love by her OMA who instilled equal part ritual and boredom into her childhood in just the right doses.
Wherever you are right now, I encourage you to find the thread that links you to your own heritage and give it a tug - dive deeply to understand how the patterns of the past are influencing the behaviours of today to form our own individual stories as part of the collective.
Referenced in our chat
Kindred - the book she wrote with her sister
Gewuzhaus - their shared spice storeSupport the show
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Food is an alternative language to the written or spoken word. Care love and power flows through our hands and into our creation
Food as opposed to ingredients are special
We have to keep showing up to cook - especially as mothers - even when its hard
The magnificence of sharing a business with family - always a process, it takes
To the nurturers, mothers, keepers of ritual
Her one word: HOME - connects her to her grandmothers.
Her kin: why writing a book was an opportunity to delve deeper into her ancestral lines, from all over Europe to ultimately coalesce in Germany
The importance of ritual, rhythm and routine in a life with young families - ritual helps to ground us and find commonality that we all understand.
The rituals of her childhood (Christmas in Germany)
Out of boredom came an ingrained and repetitious focus and love on food. Embedded in their DNA
A 12 layered Dobosh - spectacular creation to mark special times across the year “more than just making a cake, it was a channelling of my ancestors into the cake to be there for those who need them”
Mushrooming in Autumn, Winter citrus - balls of colour during the wet grey months, Rituals remind us that life is full of cycles
Opening Gewurzhaus as a nod to her love of food
How a can do attitude has been foundational to their willingness to get stuck in and have a go at things that might fill others with fear
Letting your taste and senses take over to lead you on your next adventure
Spending 6 months cooking to really learn how spices work
Kraut holds her story - a much loved ritual that she only does alone - grounds and connects her to her food lines
Getting her 3 year old to drink kraut juice
Embracing ugly meat - frugal, hardworking, industrious individuals,
Chicken broth as an analogy
How grandmas habits which used to gross her out as a child now form tha backbone of her adult rituals.
Coming back to getting squeamish and getting past the complex to better understand each other, our food and how we eat it.
Overcoming the disconnect of where our food comes from - the value of tending life and then taking life.
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Join Jade and the tall, smiling pink haired gem as she ponders the many right ways of doing things - when care, intellect & heart goes into the building of skills, earth care & people care we need to honour the effort which is more important than the approach taken.
Learn why she actively puts herself in front of opportunities & why she uses her platform as an extension to her duty of care - "Its not about me its about the issue”"While I have sadness in me about the heartbreaks happening across the world I choose to actively come back to radical hope. If you care for each other and the world we live in there’s no other option but to weave love and joy into life and weave hope into every single day"
References in the convo
ABC Gardening Australia
Gardening Australia Junior program
The Good Life - Hannahs first book
Good Life Growing - how to grow fruit and veg in any climate in Australia
Dan Palmer futuresteading conversationSupport the show
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Buy the Book - Futuresteading - Live Like tomorrow mattersShow Notes:
The juggle is real - relying on friends to help us
Not doing all the things all the time
Why it’s harder to ask than it is to help
Take time to build deep relationships. Communities hold us through good & not so good
Finding people with common interests as the starting place to build a huddle
Building people care into property design - human behaviours & human nature
Good permaculture design based on the individuals who are living & stewarding the landscape
Dan Palmer transformative for the Australian Permaculture community. He challenged & elevated it.
Bringing people along in challenging conversations at challenging times
Conversations which build community - “I don’t see the difference between hardened farmers and inner city hipsters” all I see is people who are enthusiastically food growing
The elusive ‘balance’ - “its doesn’t exist but she is getting better at scheduling so actively builds slots of quiet time to counter balance the external
The power of a routine
Putting yourself in the way of opportunities so you can deepen your impact
Every type of activism is needed but Hannah is best suited to solution orientated activism.
Don't underestimate the feeling inside you as your accurate guide
Ikigai formula
Creating a goat share
We don’t have to be self sufficient but doing things with intention & love - living towards your values
Seed saving magnificence - I’ve got the power
Energetically connecting to people
Life in front of the camera for ABC gardening Australia
Ulitising the tools & opportunities available to us in our modern world
Sometimes it’s about doing the things that are unnecessary (like dying your hair pink) to nurture our psyche
Learning in public - transparency about openly making mistakes to avoid being pigeonholed
I hope that in a decade I can publicly admit that I've been wrong about things.
She is happiest when she is IN the work - not about her but about the shining of light on things that matter to her…it’s just a tool to open a door to talk to people
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Dr Kate Luckins asks what shade of green are you? The answer is of little consequence and will most certainly ebb with the hokey poke of life - finding your own shade, in your own way is the secret…along with an audit or two of your cupboards, sheds, fridge and mind.
With a doctorate in sustainability, this Dr knows a thing or two about how we can climb aboard the bandwagon and STAY ON, ultimately resulting in us living "More with Less (which is the name of her new new book) - as our own shade of green.
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Pod References:
War on Waste
Urban Nanna
Well Nourished Georgia Harding naturopath
ST ethical eating guidesShow Notes
Even when you mean well - life is very busy so its really hard to bring this way of life to the front line
Crisis fatigue - why the looming Armageddon can cripple us.
Empathy for our parents managing teenagers who want to create the landfill of tomorrow
Experimenting with a clothing exchange
Awakening the consumer in her with the birth of her baby
Bring unapologetically medium green
Not doing all the things at once
A medium, life friendly shade of green which maintains momentum
Building new habits that are awkward and unfamiliar slowly becoming part of your flow.
Smug stock stash being built in the freezer
1 in every 5 bags of shopping is incidentally wasted
Getting sucked into every foodie, fashion and fun fad
Life audits - fridge, wardrobe, third drawer down,
Filling the gap between our concerns and our reality.
Our cultural issue isn’t what to do its about how we make decisions in the weeds - what should our self expectation be.
Keeping the paralysis of eco fear at bay
Finding the times in your life that are well suited to bringing in more change
Treat yourself like you would a friend who is doing their best
Its not the people in govt who feel the most powerful its the every day eco heroes who feel enthusiastic and the actions they are taking. Unofficial authorities in their own communities
Leading by example is the most powerful way to bring systems change
Diagnosing our reality and changing our language because of it.
Why the sustainability movement needs a theme song
More connection, more time, more community, less, consumption, less waste,
Finding your on ramp to get into this way of being
Start where your interests lie and don't worry about it being perfect or big”
The value of the imperfect
We often buy because we are compensating or obliged to buy…
Seeding the idea of ‘buying less and valuing it well’
Why its so bloody hard to raise kids today to be mini ecowarriors
Buy less and live more in a society that is structurally designed to create waste and
Find your door in - start with the things that interest you and your energy will be infectious - don't underestimate the ripple effect of
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Kirsten Bradley is one half of permacultures favourite educators MILKWOOD and she joins us as our opening night (very early morning actually) star in the spectacular line up of season nine guests.
We've had her in our ears before but not since she crossed Bass Straight to set up home and release her new book. The Milkwood Permaculture Living Handbook
We delve into how she has built her Huddle in the southern most state and how she contributes to the mycelium of community that will form what is ultimately needed in the coming 100 years of skilled up, earth connected, community first folk who just keep showing up - which is easier said than done.
She talks about our duty of care to the commons and why we need to be comfortable as the receiver and giver in your local soup kitchen.Love what you hear? Support the show
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Building a new life in Tasmania - here we are!
The forest school that runs along democratic lines with kiddos making decisions (but still have to do maths)
Teenagers marinating in different ideas and different thinking
Being confident to let your small human build their own vision and values
Upskilling FAST: Growing food, making bread, sewing, community connections
Rebooting our civic duty to be relational with each other
Changing the world, one habit at a time with her latest book: the Milkwood Permaculture Living Handbook
Engaging in the commons - taking responsibility for the things which are held in common-wealth (beaches, waters, parks) scraps of land that are worth taking care of and starting a relationship with.
Using your privilege for purpose - even if limited - use them to help those who don’t have them
Start by identifying your privileges and call out those who behave in a way that limits rather than supports others
The value of clever, open, respectful communication with those who don't align with your values
“No one is in anybody else's shoes so we don’t have the knowledge or the right to make judgments”
“Whether you’re the soup giver or the soup taker - in times of need, we all need each other and finding the common ground to be on either side of the table is a pillar of how we’ll live in the next 100 years”
Building partnerships in coalitions of the unlikely
Mutual aid in her backyard, not just in times of crises but a community way of being
Making sure you’ve got some really big pots in your pantry to fire up a huge pot of soup if needed
The million ways to contribute to the community care systems we all need
Sharing your skills far and wide
How she’s made online learning as practical and useful as possible
Do one thing, make it a habit then choose one more thing
Threading the various communities together to create a dynamic non 9-5 existence
Compassion speaks to creating futures with other people despite the overlapping crises
Holding peoples hopes, fears and making sense of that as a huddle.Support the Show.
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Remember this beautiful human? She spent some time in your ears way back in series one & two before heading off for a life of adventure & learning in the intellectual home of permaculture. Catie Payne is a courageous one-of-a-kind character full of love and laughter who challenges 'normal' and beats to her own drum.
Join us for this joyful, 'been-too-long-catchup between Jade & Catie & delve into the last two years of Catie's artistic, rewilding, permaculture filled days.
Show notesCatie now lives at Melliodora permaculture working in exchange for food and accommodation - what is this really like?
Completed a re-wilding leadership course with Claire Dunne taught her so much about herself and our culture.
Why storytelling has been an important learning for her and what she now plans to do with this.Hiking on a sacred songline in Nitmiluk National Park near Katherine NT, led by the Jaywoyn traditional owners.
Connecting to nature through sit-spots and wandering in the bush.
To guide our kids she suggests “rights of passage” rewildling programs that give a reference point to a more grounded, wild and connected life.
Current reads for Jade and Catie
Reactivating her love of medicinal weeds through a monthly community herb circle
Building a vision for women to reclaim the role of natural healers in their communities.
As the Futuresteading podcast takes an extended break. Catie and Jade relish the many characters and conversations they have shared through the pod.
Learning that just asking a question unfolds a whole conversation and opportunity to see things from a different perspective.Thank you to everyone who has popped Futuresteading in your ears, all of the comments, the tears, the shared knowledge and camaraderie.
References
“Plants - Past Present and Future” by Zena Cumpston, Michael Fletcher, Lesley Head
: https://store.holmgren.com.au/product/plants-past-present-and-future/
“Wilder, a journey back to life” by Meg Berryman: https://www.megberryman.com/
“Rewildling the Urban Soul” by Claire Dunne: https://www.naturesapprentice.com.au/
Ntimiluk Adventures: https://www.nitmiluktours.com.au/
Podcast partners ROCK!
Nutrisoil
Wwoof Australia
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Summary
"We’ve never been sicker as a species, we've never experienced such high levels of extinction and its time to look past the ‘machine that’s working’ and actively choose not to contribute to it. Instead, its time to share ancestral knowledge, naturopathy, movement & earth based skills with each other & the next generation and nod to our ancestors by learning the ways, diets and nutritional needs of our bodies. Let us experience deep sorrow ahead of rejecting the mainstream colonised and capitalistic system and lets walk away from being a machine centred society so that it supports humans first"
Show notes
Life in a commune which is 60% indigenous and 60% queer
Sharing her ancestorial voice given to her by her mother and her family lineage
Building on generations prior to build fierceness yet peace in her
Birthing an event called ‘the gathering’ to fulfil her own need to create a space that was not dominated by whiteness or privilege
The biggest and greatest job we have on this planet is to raise well and connected children
Focussing her efforts on marginalised communities
We cannot be strong female leaders unless we are bringing everyone along with us
Stepping into a woman centred world
Why the current system is failing all of us to live long, strong, healthy existences
Living in deep loving connection with each other & the natural world
People have never seen intuitive spirituality as fact but its a feminine and necessary path
Feminine cycle of 28 days, men cycling on 28 hour cycles
Creating a feminine vision quest
Women are the wisdom keepers, communicators,
Shifting away from operating up and out from our body and actively coming back into our bodies which creates a down regulation of our nervous system
Coming into ONE conscious moment each week
Growing up with fragmented culture because of colonisation
Rewriting new paradigms with indigenous culture at the heart
Actively desiring a small but mighty charitable organisation - without desire for becoming national or global
The power of localisation
Coming to “rest” on country
Rest in the knowing that she is walking on the same country that her blood has walked on in her ancestral linage
Encouragement to take a pilgrimage to the “homeland” of your ancestors
Once upon a time there was a well and connected ancestor living and thriving
Finding our own indiginaity
Lore created by country and culture
We are but a minuscule piece of a puzzle made up by the thousands of ancestors who came before us
Allowing feminine power breathe by openly accepting pain and working through trauma
Rather than changing the way we work, live, and be in the world we are now relying on abstractions to be the catchall
Let us return to a religion where water is our god againReferences
It takes courage to tell the truth - Book
The returning - Annual event
Reclaim your kin and decolonise your mind - CoursePodcast partners ROCK!
Nutrisoil
Wwoof AustraliaBuy the Book - Futuresteading - Live Like tomorrow matters
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When did having twin basins and three toilets become the norm? As an architect who bucks the idea of bigger-is-better Jane Hilliard uses the principle of “Enoughness” as a design principle for the built environment. Its better for both the natural environment and the people around us. It allows us to be rich in ways that matter instead of buying into the idea that grandeur will make us happy.
For her 'enough' looks like going out into her backyard supermarket garden picking something and cooking it. Its also having outdoor space & quiet, unstructured time to think. Guided by the principle of “enoughness,” she manages her work load to keep her energy output within her own capacity while meeting her modest need for resources to sustain her family and business.
Show notesBringing her love of arts and social justice together
Sidestepping stress and money in the architecture design world.
Ensuring sustainability isn't just an add-on rather than core to design
Why the endless pursuit of “more” and better is relentless and pointless
Asking “what is enough?” starts with your values and how you want to feel.“I ask myself: What is enough work to sustain me, my creativity, my staff and the financial resources we need to sustain my practice.”
What "enough" looks like for her high-school age children.
“I enjoy causing a bit of a stir…not in a way that’s shaming anyone…but by pushing back on the system, not individuals.”
Working a 9 day fortnight
Small rituals like, morning coffee, starting the day outside, growing food, being present with her children.
Normalising messy, lived in homes which change with the seasons and as its occupants get older.
Why central heating has loosened family ties
Living in a smaller space with less resources helps us develop negotiation skills and foster connections.
Simplify life by starting with one thing.
How much are you packing into your week, or your year?“The more work I take on, the less time and energy I have for all the other projects we have already, and I’ll enjoy them a little less too.”
"We have everything we need to go forward into the future. It's not about gaining new knowledge or new skills or new technology or new tools. It's about stripping things back and getting rid of a lot of stuff."
We need to be grateful for how much the earth gives us and not to take too much.
Our culture is dominated by growth and seeking opportunity. The desire for more can be part of our status and identity.
People are trying to meet their needs with things instead of meaning.
A mentality that “I’ve worked hard and I deserve it” is a strong focus for Jane's clients.
Just because "you've worked hard and deserve it" doesn’t mean you should aim for the biggest and shiniest.
"We stay in tents and shacks when we go away, why can’t we bring this spirit into our own house? How about an outdoor kitchen…why not?"References
Designful - Janes design agency
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"Apple pie without cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze" and what's the point in that. Life as a shepherd in Vermont USA can be lonely but farm time provides opportunity for reflection & cup filling so there's more energy to give to community. "Although I don’t say no to help - I don’t let no help stop me" is the can-do attitude Tammy exudes not only for her sheep breeding but also her natural yarn dying & her intentional life which is deeply committed to her place in Southern Vermont where she likes to beat to her own drum at a scale that works for her. Listen in as she speaks of a life that's lived with purpose, unrushed, in collaboration and in deep trust that the natural world will teach the skills needed at the right time.
Big thoughts to save the world began as a child
Seeking more colour beyond numbers
Learning to smell, feel and hear the seasons on her walk to school
Her winding path to becoming a single woman farmer
Learning to natural dye
Not feeling able to beat the drum until she walks the talk herself
She never thinks that her farming scale minimises her importance
Her accidental ownership of black nose valais sheep
Letting time and nature do much of the work passively
I’m not in a rush - I’m being responsible so if that’s slower then so be it. Its also a teaching opportunity
The teaching message is so much greater than just the product.
Being in a deficit of living with intention
Discovering the limitless appetite for homesteading skills
She might be an intense teacher
Apple Pies served with cheese…it’s a thing
Sour Pickle, maple syrup and doughnuts - Vermont traditions
Shepherding can be lonely but it provides time to reset and regroup and fill her tank
Her desire to see others as happy as she is
Lift up rather than commiserate
Planning to run the bingo games when she's in a nursing home
You learn so much when you're in community
Becoming accustomed to letting it be not picture perfect
You cannot go inwards when bad things happen on the farm or you will always be inwards
Never turn your back on your ideals and trust your heart - really listen to what matters for you
Sincerely imagining what you are committed to and go with thatReferences
Wing and a Prayer Farm
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The talented Megan Grant bought the futuresteading book to life with her vibrant depictions of a seasonal, intentional and ritual rich life. After a year of being asked, this introvert who dreams and thinks in colours and pictures finally said yes to being interviewed. We chat about her intuitive approach to creativity, her deep need to keep trying despite making plenty of work that doesn't make her happy and how a magnificent collaboration with clothing brand Gormon came about - but why she rarely wears the pieces herself.
Show notesMaking art her life by intuition
She thinks and dreams in pictures
Why picture making is her language to connect to other people
Developing her style via lots of work that doesn’t make her happy until the ones that make her happy appear
Her love of children's art more than anything - tapping back into the innocence of children art - her main goal when she paints she has two brains that are in conflict which each other
Finding the balance between art that is intellectualised and art that is intuitive
Letting accidents happen and feeling her way through them
In art it’s important to make terrible work over and over again
The value of sleeping on things to clarify perspective
Being reflective to ensure evolution
Being happy for her work to represent her
The story of her involvement in the futuresteading book
Collborating with Gormon clothing
Being the kids of creative parents
Art becoming part of your DNA when you’re the child of an artist
Being prolific in your creativity
The balance of being an artist that needs to fit ‘normal’ life into it
The financial compromise of being a full time artist. Part by design and part by necessity
The life long sacrifice of being an artist despite the reward of being able to create freely
Creating commission pieces
Setting out with blind faith and hope
Despite a 20 year career, she is ‘only just getting started’
The breathtaking discovery that you could ‘paint for a living’
Tapping into art for arts sake
Why art is an important part of simply being alive
Art brings peace, purpose and the bleeding obvious through interpretation
Why artists are the provocateurs of our community
Feeling fortunate to have an endless source of hope and optimism because she has art in her life
Painting for mental health
Self containment that comes from her creativity
Grappling with the need to use art as a statement maker
Beauty is its own reason for being
Why art is culturally soothing
Noticing the weeds at the service station
Advice for her daughter
We have to go and make the inspiration happen by doing
Finding a drive, style and direction in your own time
“You can’t wait for the inspiration to come”References
Fenton and Fenton
Megan Grant Instagram
Gormon clothing
Gary Miles Art
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SUMMARY
We need an economic system based on values and trust to see genuine change in this critical decade. This intuition led powerhouse is collaboratively leading the thinking for philanthropy & impact investment to shift away from reductionist outcomes to a 'relationship first' approach where she believes the place to begin is with inner work to determine 'who you are', 'what makes you brave' and 'where your voice strongest'
We’ve got the solutions but the human capacity to make this change is what needs to begin first.
SUMMARY
Why its harder to give money away with meaning than you might think
Wanting to be more than not just a cheque book
Asking where humans fit into ecosystems
Her awakening to disconnection
Finding people who were also asking questions
Moving into sustainable ag and food security
Connecting the environmental crisis & what we eat
Her appetite to move beyond greenwashing to transformation
The value of slowing down
Wanting people to think of her as a broke NGO leader not a rich philanthropist
Getting her ego out of the way
Embracing the world she was trying to push away
What is philanthropy - the skill of giving money away
Moving assets away from the extractive economic system
How investment can change systems
Understanding systems & the levers that need to be pulled to expedite change
The importance of mass decentralisation & taking a place based approach to bring change
Starting a relationship with open, honest transparency & an opportunity to co-create solutions
Relationship requires a number
Moving at the speed of trust
Looking for replication not endless growth
Using compassionate debt as a solution to building relationships that can enable change
Creating opportunity for replication over scale
Building models that allow relationships to be at the core
Rich relationships are paramount
Understanding connection to country - bringing gentleness from the land into her everyday
Daily spiritual practice to set the days intentions
Whatever you resist persists
Daily practice of staying mindful and present - maintenance
The danger of defining yourself as “resilient” which doesn’t allow you to be fragile
Developing a hardiness by sitting in your discomfort
Keeping the ego in check
Gleaning joy from rich conversations
Cocreating a new language that releases our stuckness in the current paradigm
Discovering how we all contribute in a way that meets our super power
If its too easy then it must be in the current paradigm and we need to ask, is there another way to do this?
Stepping around colonialism by being present & really listening
Being uncomfortable with the new to serve a changed world in the future
Self sustainability is the piece that often gets left behind
How can philanthropists play their part
Finding strength & bravery when you have your people by your sideReferences
Impact sustainability - her business
Sustainable Table
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This homeschooling mum of three spends her days foraging, growing, swapping & upskilling all in the name of continuing to live her version of normal in an abnormal world where we've lost touch with our food, medicine & the natural world.
After taking her time with her families transition to this way of life, her newfound confidence & conviction ensures she won't be told what to do by big business or have her opinions changed by corporations. Although not all plain sailing-she shares valuable insights into the bumpy but ultimately rewarding path she's been on.
"Living in a cushioned culture is limiting in our ability to share skills & share knowledge"
SHOW NOTES
Eating meat that you’ve met - being responsible for the whole life cycle
Stepping stones to this way of life - starting small, with what you’ve got
Learning from failure as you scale
The fallacy of being self sufficient
Foraging, bartering & selling excess of what you do grow to access the things you don’t grow
Why being dogmatic isn't always the answer to the long game
Homeschooling - learning happens everywhere, everyday
Being led by kids & their natural interest areas
Building a family rhythm around the personal needs of everyone in the family
Rebuilding normal
Why it’s difficult to be a people pleaser but stay true to yourself
Learning to trust your honesty will be supported & not knocked
It’s hard to live your normal in an abnormal world - the way we eat, shop treat people
Education of self is the first step in shifting towards taking agency
Why food was her on-ramp to understanding how to make her own decisions
Accepting that a shift in our lives will take time - we each need to take it as we are ready
Transitioning via new skills & a new mindset
Letting this way of living be a lifetime of work
Learning one skill and mastering it each year
Using herbs to heal now and in the future
Learning to get used to people not agreeing with how she lives her life
Making mistakes in safe places while you learn
Learning how to manage microclimates
Building an annual seasonal rhythm to ensure balance
450sq m of intensive growing space for a family of five
300 sq metres managed by the kids
Water bath canning, dehydration
Collecting food waste every week by salvaging food from mainstream supermarkets to supplement her families food
Why she is opting for a house cow not a house goat
There’s always next year…..
Learning to forgive your short comings
Connecting without belonging
How not going to a school was a disadvantage
While she feels at home she doesn't feel like she belongs
Defying the odds of ‘surviving this life’ & thriving
Finding ways to connect with people who have different ideals
The value of relying on your neighbours - creating a sense of place by calling on your neighbours
Things only move at the speed of trust & a willingness to push through the awkward.
Start where you are with what you’ve got
Relying on the building blocks of experienceReferences
Living the dream permaculture
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This conversation is difficult to process but important to hear. It asks: "How does Socioecological justice prevail in the face of an irreversible collapse"?
Its time to accept that infinite growth on a finite planet will be short lived and that those who have agency & privilege have much to do - in big or small ways
It’s hard to really accept collapse when we have a comfortable lifestyle but let's consider preparing while we still have abundance in our system.Show notes
A new form of activism - possibilities to make the world a better place
Why climate activism is the most important issue of focus
The shift in activism following covid
Introducing disruption to activism
Socioecological justice
Justice can only be relative
Creating a collapse community to help relieve anxieties of reality & locate ourselves
Putting differences aside to open the door to building localised communities
Acknowledging how difficult it can be to create community in the individualised society of the affluent west.
As we ratchet back, our community will be where we physically are.
Having faith that we can rely on each other
Consciously connecting is inevitably in train and we will be pushed together
Relearning to connect, compromise and communicate
Its unhelpful to create utopian or romanticised ideals
Insurgent planning - actively creating a plan of readiness to this inevitable collapse
Being led by the greater group with place based solutions
Why there is no prescription to future solutions - we need to figure that out for ourselves based on our understanding of the soil, water, culture we are working within
Breaking down individualisation & risks: outrageous debts & our reliance on fossil fuels
#talkcollapse - linking people to plant the seeds of a different and just future
Planting seeds physically and metaphorically for a socioecological collapse
Talking collapse is not about converting those who don't want to hear it
The emotional reality of procesing climate grief - face it, expereince it and let is sit behind you with echoes
Depression goes with the territory but its not a reason to avoid reality
Ecological awareness as the foundation to discovering more
Understanding the fragility of the world while also being a ‘doer’
What a cyclical grief process looks like and feels like
Cognitive dissonance of having endless choice and capacity to purchase while simultaneously being aware that collapse is inevitable
The myth of progress being perpetuated by every message around us
The need to decomplexify
Building solidarity via social media
Being sure to remind yourself of how wondrous the world actually is
Supporting mental wellbeing with various tools
It’s so important in this point in history to embrace life in whatever formReferences
Limits to growth - Club of Rome
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Described as 'all striving no arriving…' Sarah thrives in the early stages of a movement - feeling her way into the zeitgeist of now & unpacks in ways that resonate with reality. Ultimately driven by curiosity & shunning growth, she talks about Wild Activism as a responsibility of the current age with agency in tact.
Having less fucks to give about speaking her mind & with a bipolar superpower, she shares how she is unlearning & returning to humanity to navigate out of a spiritual PTSD, simulteneously saving but living the fuck out of life’, and why she is off to Paris
Show notes
Taking her cue from International women of strengthOwning her intensityHas the lucky country become more racist and bigoted?Why laid back Aussies don’t want their comfort boat rocked by the reality of the less wealthy.Why Aussie’s are aching to not be the anti intellectual country down SouthFeeling into where the pain points are for the humans around herThe story behind donating 100% of the I Quit Sugar profitHer conscious decision to live rather than take her life by stepping into the option of shedding everything and letting go of ALL the things she was attached to.Setting a 5 year goal to be content w not being beholden to the endless desire for more.Trodding her ego into the ground & the outcome thrusting her into growth Every time she releases her grip & lets the flow of life back in - growth prevails.Learning to get engaged & enraged about the climate crisis Turn anxiety into actionWe live in a culture where discomfort & inconvenience thrive yet we feel alive when we are on the edge & pushed out of our comfort zone.Lighting the way back to loveDefining her DharmaFostering indigenous children as a respite carerThe responsibility of steadying yourself when living with anxietyAnxiety can be a super power - hyper vigilant, hyper sensitiveThe evolutionary purpose of anxietyThe rebellious act of bucking the growth paradigmReferences
This wild and precious life - Sarah WilsonHelen Lewis interview with Jordan PetersonHelen Lewis - Difficult WomenFirst we make the beast beautiful - Sarah WilsonSteve Jobs - Commencement SpeechBuy the Book - Futuresteading - Live Like tomorrow matters
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What if all the memories you made as a kid had been replaced by screens? When an aha moment makes you realise that its time to reframe childhood and embrace an analogue life - one that stimulates creativity, imagination and experiences that instill a need to fight for the natural world over technification. With a biological need for at least 3 hours outside every day...the time to replace screen time with green time is now.
Show notesFeeling like she was failing as a mum
Breaking the cycle of raising children on full schedules
“Kids are supposed to be outside for 4-6 hours a day when the weather is good” - Charlotte Mason
Her first good day as a mum was spent outside as part of a challenge in order to make friends.
How outdoor play enhances every development for children which gives lifelong benefits
Setting our kids up for success simply by spending time outside
Busting screen time statistics
On average kids are on screens for 7 hours a day but only outside for 7 minutes
1200 hours a year outside creating rather than on screen
3 hours of outdoor play for kids of all ages
Keeping children balanced
Rescheduling early childhood
Raising kids who were ruddy, tough, sleeping better
Outdoor play enhances childhood developing in every sense = cognitive, sensorial, emotional
Laying the groundwork so they keep it up
Play that stretches their body and teaches them to trust their bodies and builds endurance, stamina, alertness
Filling our life with the important things first and push out the time that's left over for screens
It’s never easy to make this your committed approach but it’s worth it
Creating rituals that are intentional
The benefits of being uncomfortable
Why time slows down when you are doing something new and your senses wake up
Building identity via time in the outdoors
If they don’t love an analogue life, they won’t fight for it
Building a foundation in kids that they can resist the tech pull
Success is living a fulfilling life that is balanced, connected, maintained ground on values and illusions but grounded and taken day by day
If we live well today then tomorrow will take care of itself
Clothes for the season: Wonders of wool to enable the kids to play for so much longer
Passing down the things = less stuff
Imagination over screens
Nature is enough - it meets us all at the stage we are at
Start right now and be happy to bloom at your own pace which follows your instinct
Trust your kids to create their own pathReferences
1000 hours outside- book, podcast
Charlotte Mason - Childhood educator
Balanced and barefoot - Angela Hanson
Rewilding the urban soul - Claire Dunn
The Comfort Crisis - Michael Easter
The singularity is near - Ray Curswhile
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Summary
We know that Western culture lives excessively, endlessly seeking the newest and shiniest new thing. Its shocking that 40% of our food goes to waste, one third of our building materials are never even used. But this way of life will be short lived and thankfully being wasteful is now on the nose and cool cats like Joost are making waves by making junk UBER COOL. What can we do to create a new way forward in what he describes as the most exciting time in human history?
Show notesKeeping family as number one
Keeping it real with family to ensure they are present
His journey through waste which began using other peoples junk
Spending his spare time in junkyards collecting and using other peoples waste
Even the poster boy doesn't get everything right - examples of things that haven't worked
For every project that gets up there are 3 or 4 which didn't - that’s having a go! And through the Process we discover a new way forward
Attracting like minded people to build a community and deliver amazing projects
Showcasing the innovation and vast knowledge that exists in this country
Creating binless hospitality businesses
Curating the message for living waste free so that people understand it.
Considering materials based on their ability to be recycled
Living in the most exciting time in human history
Getting creative to find solutions that allow us to continue our existing lives with minimal compromise
There's something mentally wrong with us when we endlessly chase the next, new, shiny, big thing.
Being properly nourished and connected to the outdoors satiated our desires and replace our desire for STUFF.
Using plants to support our sleep
Reverting to primitive practices to reconnect to ourselves
Starting our day with simple, natural world practices
If we’ve got 3 hours to be on social media, surely we’ve got time to make our everyday actions more intentional.
We feel great after gardening not just because its sensorially beautiful but because you are breathing in microbiomes
Observation is a lost trait we need to rebuild
His fascination with the perfect sized branch for birds
All his buildings are covered in 8 mil rio mesh because it's perfect for the birds
If you really want to understand why he makes the decisions he does then check out his instagram pagesReferences
The Greenhouse film -
Future Food System Instagram
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