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Sean Cummins, founder and creative strategist at cummins&partners, returns to the Managing Marketing podcast eight years alter to share with Ellie Angell his view on the state of the industry.
Sean is an icon in the advertising industry with 40 odd years building agencies and being outspoken on the issues facing the industry. Here he shares his views state of marketing, the state of creativity, the state of client/agency relationships, the state of diversity and the state of pitches.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded live on Zoom and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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John Pabon is a sustainability author, consultant, speaker, and Tik Tok influencer, with two decades of experience in the field. He positions himself as a bridge between complex sustainability concepts and practical application for both businesses and individuals.
He is just the person we need help us navigate and make sense of the recent changes the world’s response to the Climate Crisis. Earlier this year, the Australian Government passed into law the Australian Sustainability Reporting Standard (ASRS), COP 29, the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Baku, Azerbaijan is on, the Australian Association of National Advertisers (AANA) has launched a new Environmental Claim Code, and the AANA joined the other industry bodies, the Media Federation of Australia (MFA), the Advertising Council of Australia (ACA), and the Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB) in launching the local chapter of Ad Net Zero.
A lot of acronyms, but John provides a practical and accessible understanding of the importance and impact of each.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Carolyn Watson is a Melbourne based freelance copywriter who achieved some Linked In fame with her unique and original ‘Life CV’ post.
In a wide ranging discussion, Carolyn and Ellie talk about why she wrote the post and what she was saying about the experience of being a freelancer in the current climate; what needs to happen for agencies to work well with freelancers; the fine line between copywriting and strategy and why she describes herself as a stubbornly strategy-first copywriter; the limiting impact of personalisation on great communications; the threat, effect and opportunity of AI in copywriting; the effect of world pain on advertising industry pain; and her feminist perspective on the recent Campaign Brief Creatives list.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/75mJ4Gt6MWzFWvmd3A64XW?si=a3b63c66ab6e4934
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded live on Zoom and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Will Anstee, CEO of the Online Safety Agency, returns to the Managing Marketing podcast to continue the discussion on the issues and opportunities of delivering the benefits and minimising the harm of social media for children and teens.
Last time, we discussed the issues facing children and teens using social media and the role parents and families can play. This time, our attention turns to the role that the tech platforms themselves could and do play and the importance of government legislation to protect the public, particularly children.
We also discuss the role that advertisers and their agencies play. After all, children and teens represent a significant marketplace in pester power alone. But when advertisers spend their advertising dollars supporting particular social media platforms, communications channels, and games, they also have a responsibility to do so in a positive way for their customers and society generally.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Will Anstee is the CEO of the Online Safety Agency, and shares the issues and opportunities to deliver the benefits and minimise the harm of social media for children and teens. With many years of experience in media and advertising across Asia, Will has spent the past 5 years focusing on creating and managing safe, relevant and effective ways of engaging children and teens online.
While the internet has revolutionised the way we live, work and play, there is a growing concern about the impact the internet and particularly social media is having on children and teens.
Cyberbullying, misinformation, addiction, declining face-to-face communication, self-esteem issues, social isolation, polarization, cyber stalking and cyber harassment, decreased privacy, and more are issues many parents are dealing with, leading to calls to ban the use of social media for those under the age of sixteen.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Nick Manning, Founder at Encyclomedia International, Non-Exec Chairman, Media Marketing Compliance, and patron of Advertising: Who Cares? joins TrinityP3 Global Media Business Director, Stephen Wright to discuss is something rotten in the media agency world, or not?
Reports that various publicly listed holding companies are driving profits through principal-based media trading has the industry split. Often framed in the context of providing advertisers with access to media inventory at a lower cost or providing advertisers with access to a more fluid media funding model, there are those brands who are embracing this as a win for advertisers and agencies alike.
On the other hand, there is a growing voice of dissent, pointing out that the lack of transparency and therefore accountability means that agencies are making significant profits at the expense of media performance and value.
They discuss both sides and explore possible solutions.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Chris Walton is the Managing Director of Nunn Media, Australia's Leading Independent Media Agency, and earlier this year he attended the inaugural meeting of the Advertising Who Cares meeting in London, hosted by Brian Jacobs and Nick Manning.
The ad industry is by common consent not a great place to be these days. Many within it are unhappy with the state of the industry but are understandably anxious about expressing their views openly.
Driven by a desire to make the ad world a better, more productive, more creatively driven place, Who Cares assembled a community of like-minded professionals who understand what’s broken, are collectively smart enough to ideate how to fix the problem and passionate and powerful enough to deliver what needs to be done.
Chris shares with us the experience and the outcomes of that meeting.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Tom Fogden, Editor at B&T interviewed TrinityP3 founder and global CEO Darren Woolley on how marketers and procurement professionals can be more successful managing agency pitches. The interview was based on the TrinityP3 State of the Pitch Research released earlier in the year and on Darren’s almost 25 years as a pitch consultant managing pitches for clients worldwide.
The online event saw dozens of marketers, agencies and procurement people asking questions about how they can improve the pitching process. Tom and Darren covering everything a marketer or procurement person needs to consider to run a successful pitch to hire your next agency.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded live on Zoom and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Blaine Callard is the CEO at Freedom Furniture Australia. Previously, he spent 24 years at Harvey Norman, an organisation that famously does not work with agencies wherever possible.
In a wide ranging and energetic discussion, Blaine and Ellie talk about perceptions of marketing from a CEO; what marketing teams need to do to influence the C-Suite; the power of modelling and what to do (and what not to do) when trying to implement it; the importance of properly understanding AI, whoever you are in a business; and the challenges and opportunities inherent in working with agencies, good and bad.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded live on Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Sharon Zeev Poole is the founder and Director at Agent99, Elzanne Strydom is the founder and CEO of Connected Culture and Dan Beaumont is the founder and Managing Director of GAME Creative Advisory.
Marketers know that the risks brands take today often won’t see results for six months to a year. So given today’s tough economic climate, when companies want to see ROI now, getting brands to take chances and invest in innovative ideas is no easy task.
The recently shared their views on innovation in public relations, branding and digital marketing. Each revealed what they are doing to develop innovative ideas for clients during this challenging time.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Kiaran Geen, APAC President; Samantha Cunliffe, Managing Director ANZ; and Jake Hird, APAC VP of Strategy & Solutions at Dentsu B2B, share the insights and trends from this, the fourth global edition of the Superpower Index Research, which promises “a unique perspective on the B2B buyer and the difference between winning and losing”.
While business-to-business marketing, or B2B, may not have the profile of the big advertising media campaigns for B2C, it is certainly big business and a major economic driver across many categories.
In this episode, we discuss the latest trends in B2B and how marketers should respond to them.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded live on Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Kylie Ridler-Dutton, TrinityP3’s senior global marketing consultant, has spent the past decade managing some of the most high-profile agency pitches in Australia and has built a reputation for being unflinching fair and firm to both agencies and marketers alike.
In that time, she has heard many myths and misconceptions about pitching and pitch management. While she cannot speak for the whole industry, it is interesting to hear her perspective on correcting many of the more egregious ones that float around the industry.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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A year can be a long time in marketing. Technology, data, media channels and more are driving relentless change. But imagine if you take on the responsibility of managing a much-loved brand that has existed for 150 years. What would be the challenges and issues you would be dealing with today?
Chris Illman took on that challenge when he joined the Bickford’s Group of Companies as the Group Marketing Manager eleven years ago. Today, he is the Head of Group Sales, Marketing, and Hospitality at Bickford’s Group, and he shares the market challenges of innovating the Bickford’s brand.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Robyn Sefiani is the founder and President ANZ of Sefiani, part of the Clarity Group Worldwide. She is one of the most seasoned pioneers in the world of Corporate PR, has been PR leader of the year, won PR agency of the year, and has spent 12 years prior to setting up Sefiani at Edelman.
In this episode she talks about how reputation management has changed over the years; what’s involved in building a good reputation in today’s environment - for both corporates and executives; and shares lessons from both good and bad reputation management that she’s seen as a result of crises.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Kristy Camarillo is the GM of The Royals Sydney; Rebecca Den Braber is the GM of Hatched; and Renee Murray is Head of People and Culture at Half Dome.
In this episode, Ellie Angell and the group talk about a wide range of DE&I topics, challenges and opportunities; the changes happening in our industry and how effective we are at creating truly inclusive workplaces; our hopes for the future, and our lived experiences.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded live on Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Rhys Ryan is CEO of Porter Novelli Australia and has worked extensively around cyber security and reputation management. He has spent 15 years with Porter Novelli both here in Sydney, Melbourne and the US, as well as a 6 year stint with Edelman in the US too – in New York and San Francisco.
In this episode Rhys talks about how to get proactive and prepare for strategic communications, issues and crisis management, especially around data breaches.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Praveen Narra has worked in the AI space well before it became cool. He has built a career in app development, web products, consultancy, and AI software and digital transformation solutions. He's one of the most seasoned pioneers in AI and the founder and CEO of Tech.us in Silicon Valley.
Over the past 23 years, Tech.us has successfully executed over 1,350 projects across AI, SaaS, and Mobile, serving a clientele that includes Fortune 1000 companies, emerging startups, and global icons like Tony Robbins.
Anton and Praveen discuss how technology, especially AI, is being harnessed by businesses to spearhead innovation, overcome friction points, and solve problems of all shapes and sizes.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/managing-marketing
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Ellie Angell is a Senior Consultant at TrinityP3 and one of a handful of openly transwomen with a long career in media and advertising in Australia, Asia and originally the UK. Her unique perspective on the issues of transpeople working within the advertising and marketing industry and the challenges of coming out to not just family and friends but to colleagues and the wider industry,
With the release of the WGEA Gender Pay Gap data earlier this year, International Women’s Day, and the continued issue of lethal violence against women in Australian society, the issue of gender equity and inclusion is a hot topic in wider society, but particularly in media, advertising, and marketing.
Ellie shares a very personal and informed perspective of the challenges and benefits of being a transwoman in the industry.
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Digital Immigrant, Victoria Curro is the Managing Director, and Digital Native, Amy Toma, is an Associate Visual Designer at R/GA Australia and they discuss the insights and consequences of their Gen One research.
One of Australia’s largest and growing demographic is one that has never known the world without the internet. And yet, most of the way we interface with the internet has been designed for digital adopters, rather than for the digital natives of Gen One. This includes digital tools like apps, websites, and government services.
The Gen One research from agency R/GA, the global design and marketing innovation consultancy, shows that this approach to UX design reduces the reach and engagement with the first generation of the internet - Gen One.
You can download the Gen One research at https://genonereport.com.au/
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded live on Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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Catherine King, Chief Strategy Officer at Leo Burnett, Professor Carl Rhodes, Dean of UTS Business School and author of Woke Capitalism, and purpose lead Marketer extraordinaire Adam Ballesty discuss the finds from the latest round of the Good Study.
‘The Good Study 2024’, by Leo Burnett Australia, in partnership with UTS Business School and Zenith Australia, found that while Australians overwhelmingly agree it’s important for brands to do some form of good in the world (96% up 8% from 2022), only 39% believe they should take a position on social and political issues.
We hear and read a lot these days about the importance of brands and businesses doing good, as ESG continues to climb the corporate ladder and the UN Sustainable Development Goals see government and business integrate these into society.
But what impact does doing good have on business? And what is the impact on consumers and customers?
Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/managing-marketing/id1018735190
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/
Recorded live on Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.
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