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  • On this episode, I am joined by romantic comedy scholar Ella Cerón, who is also the author of the excellent coming-of-age YA novel Viva Lola Espinoza. We talked about rom-coms and their tropes, especially focusing on Pride & Prejudice (2005) and Fire Island. Ella also recommends a bunch of her favorite romantic comedies, explains who Mr. Wickham is and why he’s an example of an important archetype, caramel Frappuccinos on Christmas, and much more. Come for the deep dive, stay for the stray meows from Ella's cat, Olive.

    Buy Ella’s book ASAP: Viva Lola Espinoza. And follow her on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.

    Things we talked about:

    Almost FamousThe Wedding Planner HitchHow to Lose a Guy in 10 DaysAlmost FamousTo All the Boys I’ve Loved BeforeViva Lola EspinozaManhunt by Gretchen Felker-Martin

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    This episode was produced by Sally and Ella and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

  • On this episode, I am joined by writer, astrologer, and teacher, Jeanna Kadlec, author of Heretic: A Memoir. We talked about Kadlec’s excellent book and how it braids her astute analysis and cultural history with her own memoir. Then we got deep into astrology and how it can inform how we see and understand what’s going on in our lives on both small and large scales. If you are interested in understanding astrology more, this episode is for you!

    Buy Jeanna’s book ASAP, it’s so good: Heretic: A Memoir! And follow her on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok

    Things we talked about:

    Virology by Joseph OsmundsonThe work of author Melissa FebosAstrologer on instagram Diana Rose HarperSam Reynolds on Talking Astrology with Bill NyeStargazing on TLCAstro TwinsWritten in the Stars astrological dating showQueer Cosmos: The Astrology of Queer Identities & Relationships by Colin BedellBreach (2007)¡Viva Lola Espinoza! by Ella Cerón The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms by N. K. Jemisin

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    This episode was produced by Sally and Jeanna and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

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  • On this episode, I am joined by noted Cate Blanchett enthusiast and Scorpio, Aubrey Gordon (@yrfatfriend) who you know from the excellent podcast Maintenance Phase. We talked about (and spoiled btw) the movie Tár. We talked about queer anti-heroes/villains, what this movie says (if anything) about cancel culture, whether this is a horror movie, and a lot more.

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    Things we talked about:

    Imitation of Life Can You Ever Forgive Me?Michael ClaytonCarolThe Worst Idea of All Time podcastThe Best Idea of All Time podcast“‘Tár,’ Reviewed: Regressive Ideas to Match Regressive Aesthetics” by Richard Brody for The New Yorker“Tár is actually a horror movie” by Martin Millman for ColliderThread from r/blankies about ghosts in the movie Tár

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    This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

  • On this episode I’m joined by Josh Gondelman to talk about why being an NBA fan is a great hobby no matter how into sports you are or are not. We talked about doing trash talk but nicely, building community via sports fandom, which NBA team to become a fan of depending on what vibes you are in search of, and lots more.

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    Things we talked about:

    Josh on TwitterJosh’s newsletter That’s Marvelous!Josh’s touring scheduleBill Burr’s Philly rantJosh’s standup set in Philly when he talked about the Eagles being in the Super BowlSpinsters podcast episodes: an ode to Black hair, what it feels like to get traded, and reckoning with how pro sports teams deal with sexual assault and domestic violenceDesus & MeroZach Lowe’s podcast The Lowe PostChicago Bull Patrick Beverly showing a ref a missed foul on a cameraKatie Heindl’s newsletter Basketball FeelingsJaylen Brown Is Trying to Find a Balance by Logan Murdock for The RingerTipping PitchesFlagrant MagazineNBA fits of the week from Laura Jane FauldsNBA PaintsJoel Embiid trolling Ben Simmons with the “RIP Bozo” meme

    This episode was produced by Sally and Josh and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

  • For this episode, I’m joined by Rachel Vorona Cote (@RVoronaCote), author of the excellent book Too Much: How Victorian Constraints Still Bind Women Today to talk about the concept of “too muchness” (or, how social norms and expectations constrain women’s bodies, minds, and sexualities). Specifically, we looked at too muchness and the BBC series on HBO Gentleman Jack, a series based on the diaries of Anne Lister, aka “the first modern lesbian" who lived from 1791 to 1840. We talked about too muchness and: Anne Lister’s gender and sexuality, women’s mental health and the threat of institutionalization, and lots more. It was GREAT.

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    This episode was produced by Sally and Rachel and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

    Things we talked about:

    Too Much: How Victorian Constraints Still Bind Women Today by Rachel Vorona CoteForbidden Notebook by Alba de CéspedesGentleman Jack: The Real Anne Lister by Anne ChomaThe Reform Act of 1832Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland (2010)The Victorian City: Everyday Life in Dickens’ London by Judith FlandersSally's Veronica Mars newsletter Mars InvestigationsMy Gender is Maximalism by Frankie de la Cretaz for AutostraddlePretty Hate Machine by Nine Inch NailsPeaker Blinders (2013-2022)Poker Face (2023)Julia Furlan’s podcast recs for Women’s History MonthAlex Sujong Laughlin’s podcast recs for Women’s History Month
  • For this episode, I’m joined by Kira Deshler, lesbian pop culture expert, and writer of the newsletter Paging Dr. Lesbian. Kira and I talked about the movie Carol and why we and so many queer people are obsessed with it. From the longing glances and the shoulder touches to the whole Mommy’s Baby of it, we dove very deep. We also talked about lesbian pulp novel, sapphic romance movies generally, and Carol’s place in the overall canon.

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    This episode was produced by Sally and Kira and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

    Things we talked about:

    Queer Female Fans: A Master’s Thesis by KiraThe 1945 movie Brief EncounterThe Price of Salt by Patricia HighsmithCarol is Not the Romance of Your Memes by Frankie de la Cretaz for VultureAmmonite (2020)Portrait of a Lady on Fire (2019)CarmillaMarvel’s Agent CarterLong Live MILFs: On Stanning Middle-Aged Actresses by Kira for her newsletter
  • On this episode, Aubrey Gordon (@yrfatfriend) is here to talk about the 2022 Christmas romcom Looking For Her. We recapped the movie and then talked more in-depth about this affable, mild foray into the queer romcom space. We also tried to figure out what even makes a movie gay.

    Don’t forget to check out Aubrey’s 2021 book What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat!

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    This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

    Things we talked about:

    Aubrey’s forthcoming (2023) book You Just Need to Lose Weight And 19 Other Myths About Fat People (which you can pre-order here)The Society‘Looking for Her’ delivers a cozy holiday romance story by Gary M. Kramer for Gay City News
  • Zahra Barnes (head name nerd) is back to talk about names and naming things. We talked about our own names, our cats’ names, names and gender norms, name trends, and plenty more.

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    This episode was produced by Sally and Zahra and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

    Things we talked about:

    r/namenerdsAll of Us Are DeadThe 50 Most Game of Thrones-y Names on Game of Thrones By Rachel Handler for Vulture@SonnyHoneyBubba
  • On this episode, Aubrey Gordon, writer and co-host of Maintenance Phase joins to talk all about working from home. We discuss how we get things done and stay focused as well as how we take breaks and take care of ourselves, all while trying not to work ourselves into a fine powder.

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    This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

    Things we talked about:

    The Last KingdomQuestion Team
  • On this episode, Zahra Barnes joins as guest co-host to talk about weddings. We talked about intentional planning, satisficers vs. maximizers, weird gender shit, and the depravity of getting married at a plantation. We also weighed in on whether a bride’s FAQ list for her wedding party was genius or rude.

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    This episode was produced by Sally and Zahra and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

    Things we talked about:

    The Love of My Life by Rosie WalshThe Art of Gathering by Priya ParkerOILT episode 22 (How to Throw a Better Party—During the Pandemic, or Whenever), where talked about The Art of Gathering in detailThe video game StrayA bride-to-be’s expectations list that went viral Airlie, where Zahra got married Reddit’s r/WeddingPlanning
  • Writer and audio producer Alex Sujong Laughlin is here to guest co-host and we’re talking about hobbies where you grow and make things. We went deep thinking about why some people are drawn to these activities while others (Sally!) are not. Also, Alex shares a bunch of great tips for getting into gardening, composting for beginners and experts, and tons of (non-gardening) ways to be less extractive in your relationship with food and the earth.

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    Things we talked about:

    The podcast Alex produces, Normal Gossip!Plant hardiness zonesHudson Valley Seed Co.I Tackled My Climate Anxiety by Becoming a Parks Department Super Steward by Stephanie Foo for CurbedMaking Mr. RightThey Thought I Was You

    This episode was produced by Sally and Alex and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

  • Donate to the National Network of Abortion FundsDonate to If/When/How’s Repro Legal Defense FundGet involved with the Working Families Party Volunteer to send texts with Movement LabsTransgender Legal Defense and Education FundSouthern Equality Fund

    Aubrey Gordon (co-host of Maintenance Phase) is back!! We talk all about our favorite things to watch when we’re in the mood for comfort. We also discussed our own personal approaches to comfort and how comfort can mean different things at different times. After all, there’s no one right way to comfort view! We also explored our own strategies for remaining critical and engaged viewers, particularly when it comes to problematic faves.

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    Things we talked about:

    Megan Amram’s tweet of food puns she came up with The Good PlaceDropout, streaming channel of Dirty Laundry and Game ChangerOnly Murders in the BuildingRutherford FallsHarley Quinn on HBO MaxSherlockThe Good PlaceNailed It!TaskmasterGame ChangerSpyNew GirlParks and RecreationElementaryBabylon 5

    This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

  • Donate to the National Network of Abortion FundsDonate to If/When/How’s Repro Legal Defense FundGet involved with the Working Families Party Volunteer to send texts with Movement Labs

    For this episode, guest co-host Aubrey Gordon (co-host of Maintenance Phase) joins Sally to talk about ways we connect with friends when they’re going through a hard time. We discussed all different kinds of checking in, from “messages in a bottle” to sharing airline miles, to curating playlists, and a lot more. We also thought through some of the macro aspects of being there for friends, like how to tell if what you’re doing is more for you than it is for the person you’re trying to show up for.

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    Things we talked about:

    Greenfeast: Spring, Summer [A Cookbook] by Nigel SlaterWho Framed Roger Rabbit“Why Venmo is My Favorite Sympathy Card” by Rachel Miller for BuzzFeed

    This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

  • For this episode Sally sat down with Caroline Moss, of Gee Thanks Just Bought It, to talk all about bulk shopping. We discussed tips and tricks for buying bulk, things to never ever buy in bulk, booking vacations through Costco, favorite Kirkland-brand snacks, and a lot more.

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    Things we talked about:

    The This American Life episode “Get Your Money’s Worth”The Points GuyBlade Runner 2049Top Gun

    This episode was produced by Sally and Caroline and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

  • In this episode, we answered a bunch of your AMA questions. We talked about our writing routines, where we spend time online, summer plans, and more. We also announced that Rachel will be leaving the show because of her rad new job as EIC of Self. We already miss Rachel here at Likehead HQ! But keep Oh, I Like That in your feed so you can stay on top of what’s next for the pod!

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    Things we talked about:

    Covid-19 safety doesn’t have to be all or nothing. Here’s how to think about it going forward. by Rachel for VoxAt-home Covid-19 tests are getting better. Experts say: Stock up for winter. by Sigal Samuel for VoxDetect Covid-19 Test

    This episode was produced by Rachel and Sally and edited by Lucas Nguyen. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. MJ Brodie transcribed this episode. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod.

  • Now that we know for certain the Supreme Court intends to overturn Roe, please consider contributing to one of the U.S.'s local abortion funds or use this link to split money across 80 different abortion funds.

    This doc is also a great resource: How to show up for abortion access

    We’re thrilled to get a chance to talk about our latest obsession, the Apple+ TV show Severance. We talked, in a very non-spoilery way, about why we love the show so much, and then pivoted to heavy spoiler territory to discuss theories and storylines. (Don’t worry if you haven’t seen it; the episode is edited in a way that makes it easy to skip ahead so nothing is spoiled.) After that, we recommend our favorite media (movies, TV, podcasts, books) that remind us of Severance either in vibe, themes, or both.

    Our next episode will be an Ask Us Anything so send in your questions to [email protected].

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    Things we talked about:

    “Behind the Scenes of Severance’s ‘Very Creepy’ Office Dance Party” by Roxana Hadadi for Vulture“The Stories Behind Severance’s Eerie Office Design” by Jackson McHenry for Vulture“The Diamond Desk, Surveillance Shots, and 7 Other Stories About Making Severance” as told to Roxana Hadadi, Jackson McHenry, and Kathryn VanArendonk for VultureSeverance recaps at VultureHelly stairwell scene in one continuous timeline posted by u/Veto111 on RedditHelly color theory discussion posted by u/RedRiotingHood on Reddit (SPOILERS ALL THE WAY DOWN)The Lexington LetterAdam Scott, possible hunkThe Program audio seriesThe Deca Tapes, an 8-part mystery podcastSoft VoiceThe following Black Mirror episodes:“The Entire History of You”“Be Right Back”“White Christmas”“Hang the DJ”“Nosedive”“San Junipero”“15 Million Merits”TV shows: Russian Doll, Dollhouse, HumansEternal Sunshine of the Spotless MindThe Memory Police by Yōko Ogawa
  • Winter is over (mostly, kind of, we think) and it’s (sort of) spring. So, we’re kicking off this delightful season by taking a page from Ross Gay’s The Book of Delights and talking about all the little things that delight us, from ducks and squirrel heists to Twitter threads and great tunes. (Also, if you’re allergic to gratitude lists, know that a list of delights is not the same thing, for reasons we’ll explain.)

    Our next episode will be an Ask Us Anything so send in your questions to [email protected].

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    Things we talked about:

    The Book of Delights: Essays by Ross GayBackyard Squirrel Maze 1.0- Ninja Warrior CourseBackyard Squirrel Maze 2.0- The Walnut Heist“How does a duck change its sex?” by Rory Galloway for BBC NewsAn Ask a Manager comment from a work-life balance iconA Twitter thread by Rebecca Makkai about John Arbuthnot FisherThe Philadelphia 76ers victory song76ers player Tyrese Maxey singing a bit of the song during a post-game presser76ers player Tyrese Maxey singing the song during an interviewTrucks: Last Week Tonight with John OliverSeverance on Apple TV+

    This episode was produced by Rachel and Sally and edited by Lucas Nguyen. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. MJ Brodie transcribed this episode. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod.

  • This episode originally aired on August 12, 2021 (listen here).

    Poetry can be really delightful, but it can also feel really inaccessible. In this episode, we talked about our favorite poems, how to discover poems you love (and disregard everything else tbh), and then how to find poems that fit your specs. Stick around after the outro to hear our editor Lucas reading some selections.

    This episode was produced by Rachel and Sally and edited by Lucas Nguyen. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. MJ Brodie transcribed this episode. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod.

    Things we talked about:

    The Anti-Sleep Routine That’s Actually Helped My Insomnia by Terri Pous for Apartment TherapyThe mockingbird that humiliated Sally on her own front porchVerse Dailyr/PoetryPoetryFoundation.orgMatthew Ogle’s poetry newsletter Pomestacy-marie ishmael, whose newsletter The Main Event, often includes poetryPoetry Rx: There Are Enough Ballrooms in You by Sarah Kay for the Paris ReviewThe Ultimate List of (Non-Cheesy) Wedding Poems by Najva Sol for A Practical WeddingAre You Using a Poem in Your Wedding? by Emily Threlkeld for A Practical WeddingJapanese Death Poems: Written by Zen Monks and Haiku Poets on the Verge of Death by Yoel HoffmannDevotions: The Selected Poems of Mary Oliver by Mary OliverDew point versus humidityWeather Time Machine: Old ships' logs are giving scientists new insights into the past and future of the earth's changing climate by Feilding Cage for Reuters

    Rachel’s favorite poems:

    The Orange by Wendy CopeDifferences of Opinions by Wendy CopeFrida Kahlo to Marty McConnell by Marty McConnellOn This the 100th Anniversary of the Sinking of the Titanic, We Reconsider the Buoyancy of the Human Heart by Laura Lamb Brown-Lavoie

    Sally’s favorite poems:

    Por que cantamos/Why We Sing by Mario BenedettiPoem (The day gets slowly started) by James SchuylerResolution # 1,003​ by June Jordan

    Poems read by Lucas after the outro:

    Banyan by Mary OliverA selection of Japanese death poems from here
  • Resources for Ukraine and trans people and families in Texas:

    “How You can Help Ukranians” by Kelsey Piper for VoxTransgender Education Network of TexasTrans Kids and Families of TexasThread of resources to make use of if you’re a caregiver or educator in Texas

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    In the last episode, we share our top-level thoughts about choosing games to play and how to think about teaching them to others. This week we dive into our recommendations for exactly which games to play. We cover games you play solo, games that are fun to play with one other person, and games that are good for groups and social situations.

    This episode was produced by Rachel and Sally and edited by Lucas Nguyen. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. MJ Brodie transcribed this episode. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod.

    Things we talked about:

    9 Things You Probably Don't Know About Daylight Saving Time by Rachel for BuzzFeedOne-player tabletop roleplaying games like: Thousand Year Old Vampire, The Wretched, Ironsworn, Red SnowThe 1974 board game Anti-MonopolyAnimal Crossing MonopolyMonopoly Was Designed to Teach the 99% About Income Inequality by Mary Pilon for Smithsonian MagazineHow to Solve the New York Times Crossword by Deb Amlen for the New York TimesSETTussie MussiePARKSTrails: A Parks GameWhy is it called Mexican Train Dominoes?MastermindSushi Go!AnomiaHunt a Killer mystery subscription boxi’m sorry did you say street magicDevotions: The Selected Poems of Mary OliverThe Good Luck Girls by Charlotte Nicole Davis
  • Resources for Ukraine and trans people and families in Texas:

    “How You can Help Ukranians” by Kelsey Piper for VoxTransgender Education Network of TexasTrans Kids and Families of TexasThread of resources to make use of if you’re a caregiver or educator in Texas

    Have you ever thought about how many games are available to us these days? Card games, board games, roleplaying games. Games of chance, games of strategy, games where you win by buying up all the property and then charging people to use it. This is the first installment of a two-part series about games and gaming. In this first episode, we talk about the art of getting people into games, the science of teaching complicated games to newbies, resources for finding games you want to play, and also hot tubs.

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    This episode was produced by Rachel and Sally and edited by Lucas Nguyen. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. MJ Brodie transcribed this episode. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod.

    Things we talked about:

    “Iceland’s Water Cure” by Dan Kois for the New York TimesThe tarot card The TowerHello Wordl, off-brand WordleWordle spinoffs Quordle, Semantle, Poeltl, and WorldleShut Up & Sit Down’s game pickerGeek & Sundry’s Game the Game seriesTwo tweets that perfectly sum up the agony of teaching a game and being taught a new gameHow to Teach Board Games Like a ProThe Slate podcast Decoder Ring