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Sari Heidenrich joins guest host Liliana Sierra Castillo to talk about forced labor in seafood. Forced labor is sadly a reality for many people working in imported seafood supply chains. Sari (Greenpeace USA) discusses the conditions that have created and perpetuated this problem, the challenges workers face, and some possible pathways toward solutions. This conversation highlights the importance of knowing who caught our seafood to make ethical choices that nourish our bodies and those of everyone laboring in the seafood system.
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Amal Bouhabib is the Director of Southern Migrant Legal Services and defender of the Black catfish farmworkers who were paid less than white migrant workers from South Africa doing the same work. Amal is usually defending migrant workers, who also face abuse in this system. We discuss this case and the complexities of labor and immigration laws that lead to vulnerabilities for American and migrant workers alike in our seafood system.
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Kirby Page and Radhika Sharma of Studio ATAO join me to discuss food service and hospitality workers. We talk about the hurdles these workers face to decent working conditions and education about the food system and building solidarities across the seafood supply chain.
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J.J. Bartlett and his organization Fishing Partnership have been supporting the health, safety, and economic security of commercial fishermen since 1997.
Visit: www.fishingpartnership.orgFollow:Facebook: Fishing Partnership Support ServicesInstagram: @fishingpartnershipTwitter: @fishing_partnerOn these social media channels, Fishing Partnership posts updated and current information on services available to fishing families.Check out their 90-second video: Fishing Partnership Services: "For the Community, From the Community" -
Dr. Rachel Donkersloot shares her research findings on how market-based fishing rights have disproportionately harmed rural, Indigenous, and low-income fishermen in Alaska. She discusses the community impacts of the commodification of fishing rights and shares insights on lowering the barriers to entry for the next generation. This conversation is part of our series on the graying of the fleet.
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It is my great honor to share the oral history of Mary Hill and her late, beloved mother, Marie Hill. Mary is a 7th generation African-American oyster harvester in Chesapeake Bay, who has worked tirelessly in the struggle for racial, economic, and environmental justice.
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Joshua Brown is the environmental literacy and workforce development lead at National Sea Grant in D.C. He joins us to talk about the Young Fishermen's Development Act, a piece of legislation that aims to address the graying of the fleet. Joshua shares with us the potential and some of the limitations of this legislation, before getting into "how the sausage is made": who fought to have this legislation passed, how it got funded (and how it didn't), and why constant pressure matters in D.C.
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Why aren't young people entering fisheries in the same numbers as generations past? How is this trend impacting coastal communities in New England? Andrea Tomlinson and the New England Young Fishermen's Alliance are out to address the "graying of the fleet" by supporting young people in fisheries and the development of new young fishermen and women. We discuss some of the reasons behind the trend, including catch shares and policies of privatization, as well as the diverse and important roles that women play in the industry.
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Prof. Tony Sutton breaks down the binary between Indigenous and non-Indigenous food, examines the long history of privatization in North America dating back to the Doctrine of Discovery, and shares his research on--as well as his personal experiences with--how damming and contamination of sea run fish impacts food sovereignty for coastal peoples in Maine.
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Will Sennott is an investigative reporter at The New Bedford Light and ProPublica. Will's explosive reporting has exposed the troubling extent of private equity and foreign ownership of fishing rights in New Bedford, America's most valuable fishing port, and the negative impact that financialization has had on fishermen and fishing communities.
All of Will's articles for The New Bedford Light"INVESTIGATION: How foreign private equity hooked New England’s fishing industry"Follow Will on Twitter
You may recognize Will's voice from our special mini-series on seafood processing worker justice in New Bedford!
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Brett Tolley is an advocate for community-based fisheries, fighting for the next generation of fishermen as the National Program Coordinator for the North American Marine Alliance (NAMA). Brett shares his personal experience with a privatization policy known as "catch shares" in New England, his observation of the consolidation of fishing rights among a wealthy few, and the impact that this policy has had on the souls of fishing communities.
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In this special bonus episode with guest host Liliana Sierra Castillo, Brynn Comeaux of the New Orleans Food Policy Action Council discusses the complex relationship between local communities and the oil and gas industry, intersectional impacts in the Louisiana Gulf shrimp fishery, the importance of locally-driven solutions, and how she navigates and resists displacement and loss.
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This episode provides additional context to understanding the ongoing challenges shrimp fishermen in the Gulf of Mexico are facing to their livelihoods, which are covered in more depth by Civil Eats here.
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Nico is an organizer, scholar, and sometimes fisherman on his home island of Culebra in Puerto Rico. He share his insights on the limitations and possibilities for seafood sovereignty in the context of rapid privatization of public beaches and docks by wealthy Americans new to the island and the skyrocketing prices of local homes converted to Airbnbs. We also talk about colonial policies limiting food sovereignty including PROMESA and the Jones Act, the powerful history Puerto Rican resistance, and the amazing work that the Asociación Pesquera de Culebra (Fishing Association of Culebra) is doing to advance a solidarity-based economy and reclaim seafood sovereignty.
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Queen Quet, Chieftess of Gullah/Geechee Nation, celebrates their victories over a would-be developer (as she says, "destructioneer") attempting to privatize beautiful and culturally significant St. Helena Island for a golf course and resort. Gullah/Geechee Nation is the first nation of African descendants to be recognized within the United States. Their fight for sovereignty, safety, and beauty has lessons for us all.
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Danielle Ringer is a commercial fisherman and fisheries anthropologist based in Kodiak, Alaska. She shares her firsthand experience and research on the "graying of the fleet" trend, privatization and commodification of fishing access rights, and a vision for managing fisheries for community well-being.
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For this very special bonus episode, I am joined by Jesuit scholastic Bryan Galligan to discuss how his Catholic faith motivates his work in nutritional and social justice, how to move in solidarity while supporting community leadership and avoiding the pitfalls of white saviorism, and what faith traditions have to offer to the fight for seafood justice.
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Prof. Joshua Stoll and I reflect on themes that emerged from season one, such as the corporatization of our seafood system, the mismatch in our stated national policy goals and the reality of seafood inaccessibility for local communities, and the values that drive seafood entrepreneurs to advance a more just system for everyone. We also previous Season Two on Privatization.
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Adrián Ventura is the Executive Director of the Centro Comunitario de Trabajadores (CCT) in New Bedford and a leading voice for worker justice in the seafood processing sector. Adrián talks about the injustices seafood processing workers are facing, how CCT empowers workers to respond, and how they are building solidarities across sectors. Immigrant women and undocumented workers are particularly vulnerable to abuses and represent a significant percentage of these workers.
Support unjustly laid off workers (GoFundMe)Centro Comunitario de Trabajadores (CCT) websiteWill Sennott's reporting on recent layoffs and investigations into retaliation
This is an English translation of an interview originally conducted and published in Spanish, by Liliana Sierra Castillo and Ryan Irlanda.
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Professor Dave Love shares his research on when, where, and how much seafood is wasted in the U.S. and his tips for how we can each reduce seafood waste in our own homes, as well as systemic changes that are needed. With his colleagues at the Johns Hopkins Center for a Livable Future, Dave studies the nutritional and environmental cost of seafood waste. After our conversations with fishermen and advocates who honor their catch this season, I also feel an emotional and spiritual loss.
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