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  • Skilled trades careers are booming, from trade school welding programs to women in skilled trades. William Myers of Ancora Education shares why now's the time.

    Host Andrew Brown sits down with welding educator and skilled trades advocate Bill Myers of Ancora Education to explore how to launch a welding career in today’s trades industry.

    They dive into the structure of trade school welding programs, how the NCCER Career Builder helps students choose a path, and what it really takes to land high-paying welding career opportunities—whether you’re just starting out or returning to the trades later in life.

    Whether you're considering trade school, apprenticeship, or just want honest insight into skilled trades careers, this episode delivers straight talk from an industry veteran who’s been there.

    IN THIS EPISODE

    (00:02) – The Rise of Skilled Trades Careers in 2025

    (06:41) – How Trade School Welding Programs Are Structured

    (15:24) – Breaking Down the NCCER Career Builder Tool

    (24:10) – The Role of Women in Skilled Trades Today

    (36:52) – Welding Career Opportunities After Graduation

    (48:33) – Why Soft Skills Matter as Much as Craftsmanship

    KEY TAKEAWAYSSkilled trades careers are not just viable—they're thriving. Students can now enter trades like carpentry, plumbing, HVAC, and electricians roles with real support and structure.Trade school welding programs offer an accelerated path (as short as 10 months) into high-paying welding career opportunities in industries like construction and aerospace.Tools like the NCCER Career Builder are game changers in helping prospective students match with the right path in the skilled trades industry—and it's available in high school.Women in skilled trades are gaining visibility and mentorship, especially through platforms like TikTok and YouTube, helping shift outdated narratives in the trades industry.
    ABOUT THE GUEST

    Bill Myers (also known as William Myers) is the National Director of Skilled Trades at Ancora Education. With decades of experience as a welder, fabricator, and educator, Bill has shaped modern training standards across trade programs. He's also an active voice on the Skilled Trades Advisory Council, focusing on education, craftsmanship, and career advocacy for tradespeople.

    KEYWORDS

    Skilled trades careers, Trade school welding programs, Women in skilled trades, Welding career opportunities, NCCER Career Builder, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Trades Careers, Education, Apprenticeships, Career Growth, Industry Experts, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Andrew Brown, Bill Myers, William Myers, Ancora Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Toolfetch, Welding, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Contractors, Tradespeople, Advocacy

    RESOURCE LINKS

    LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-myers-907503281/

    Ancora Education: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ancora-education/

  • Ferguson is investing big in skilled trades education. Melissa Hazelwood joins host Andrew Brown to reveal how they're building trades labs for plumbing, HVAC & more.

    Join host Andrew Brown on The Lost Art of the Skilled Trades as he talks with Melissa Hazelwood, Director of Community Relations at Ferguson, about how one of America’s top plumbing and HVAC distributors is helping solve the trades labor crisis. From building hands-on training labs with Explore the Trades to investing in K-12 career awareness, Ferguson is reshaping how young people discover and enter high-paying trade careers.

    Discover why early exposure matters, how Ferguson’s Skills Lab program works, and how companies can step up to support trades education in their own communities.

    In This Episode:

    (02:15) — Why early exposure to the trades matters

    (07:40) — Spotlight on “Castle Jarrett” and student engagement

    (14:30) — Inside the Ferguson Skills Lab initiative and its national reach

    (23:10) — The role of parents, guidance counselors, and social perception

    (32:45) — Women in construction: tools, tiaras, and trade camps

    (41:00) — Advice for companies wanting to support skilled trades education programs

    Key Takeaways:

    Trade careers for kids should be introduced early through hands-on play, mentorship, and relatable role models.

    The Ferguson Skills Lab initiative is a groundbreaking example of private industry investing in skilled trades education programs.

    Explore the Trades partnerships help connect contractors, schools, and community leaders to offer scalable, real-world training.

    Programs like women in construction training camps are essential to diversify the trades and empower the next generation of builders and problem-solvers.

    About the Guest:

    Melissa Hazelwood is the Director of Social Impact at Ferguson, where she leads initiatives that support skilled trades education programs through national partnerships like the Explore the Trades partnership. She plays a key role in the Ferguson Skills Lab initiative, which has already reached thousands of students across the U.S. Her work bridges industry expertise and community service, ensuring that trade careers for kids remain a visible and viable path—especially through her support of women in construction training camps and other inclusive outreach programs.

    Melissa shares how Ferguson's community-first mindset and collaboration with organizations like Explore the Trades are creating real social impact in the trades industry. Whether you're a parent, contractor, educator, or just passionate about craftsmanship, this episode is filled with insights on the future of trades careers and how we can all play a role in supporting the next generation of tradespeople.

    Keywords:

    Skilled trades education programs, Trade careers for kids, Ferguson Skills Lab initiative, Explore the Trades partnership, Women in construction training camps, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Melissa Hazelwood, Social Impact, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    Resource Links:

    LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkhazelwood/

    Ferguson website: https://www.corporate.ferguson.com/esg/story-hub/news-details/2024/Building-the-future/default.aspx

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  • Host Andrew Brown sits down with This Old House host Kevin O’Connor to explore the state of the skilled trades career path in today’s economy. They dive deep into the construction labor shortage, discuss real-world apprenticeship opportunities, and reflect on the impact of places like Williamson College of the Trades.

    They also confront outdated assumptions around the trade school vs college debate — and what needs to happen for the next generation to see the skilled trades not as a fallback, but as a first choice.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    [00:01] – Kevin’s path from finance to This Old House

    [08:45] – How trades-focused TV really gets made

    [18:22] – Inside Williamson College of the Trades

    [31:40] – Trade school vs college: fixing the PR problem

    [45:10] – Addressing the construction labor shortage

    [59:00] – Building better apprenticeship opportunities


    KEY TAKEAWAYS:

    Williamson College of the Trades is a tuition-free trade school creating career-ready graduates with multiple job offers, and no debt.

    The construction labor shortage is real, but solvable if we invest in training, technology, and awareness.

    Apprenticeship opportunities are the fastest, most effective way to launch a skilled trades career path and companies should promote them.

    The trade school vs college decision should be based on ROI and lifestyle, not outdated assumptions or prestige.

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Kevin O’Connor is the host of This Old House, a legendary PBS series now in its fifth decade. With roots in finance and family construction, Kevin brings a unique lens to the skilled trades industry, combining storytelling with advocacy. He’s a champion for institutions like Williamson College of the Trades and a vocal supporter of closing the construction labor shortage through smarter training and increased apprenticeship opportunities.

    KEYWORDS:

    Skilled trades career path, construction labor shortage, apprenticeship opportunities, Williamson College of the Trades, trade school vs college, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Kevin Oconnor, This Old House, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    RESOURCE LINKS:

    Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinoconnortoh/

    Website: https://officialkevinoconnor.com/

  • Want to become an electrician? Jon Lock joins host Andrew Brown to break down the electrician apprenticeship program, union vs non-union routes, and licensing.

    Whether you're curious about how to become an electrician, preparing for your electrical journeyman license requirements, or simply passionate about the future of the trades industry, this episode is packed with practical advice, honest reflection, and expert insights from someone who’s lived it.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (00:01) – The reality of starting out in the trades: Jon talks about attitude, attendance, and being coachable when entering an electrician apprenticeship program.

    (08:42) – Union vs Non-Union: The insider’s take: What to expect from union vs non-union electrician routes, pay differences, and access to tools and training.

    (15:36) – Getting into the trades without knowing anyone: Jon shares how he got into the skilled trades career path without prior connections—and how YouTube played a role.

    (22:14) – The wages, the timeline, and what to expect: Breaking down the electrical journeyman license requirements and the pay scale from apprentice to journeyman.

    (30:50) – Failing the test—then passing it: Jon opens up about failing the licensing exam twice and how he finally earned his license.

    (39:05) – Advice for new tradespeople: His top 3 qualities for apprentice success—and how to stand out in today’s trades industry.

    Key Takeaways:

    Electrician apprenticeship programs are highly competitive—especially in the union system—so showing up, staying humble, and learning fast are key.

    Understanding the pros and cons of union vs non-union electrician jobs can change your entire career trajectory.

    The skilled trades career path offers solid pay, pride in your work, and long-term job security—but only if you're willing to put in the time.

    To meet electrical journeyman license requirements, apprentices need 8,000 hours of work and often several attempts at the licensing test—persistence pays off.

    About the Guest:

    Jon Lock is a licensed electrician and content creator behind Daily Electrician, where he shares the day-to-day realities of the trade on YouTube and Instagram. With experience in both commercial and residential electrical work, Jon speaks from the front lines of the skilled trades industry—offering advice, mentorship, and career insight for those exploring how to become an electrician. He's passionate about craftsmanship, lifelong learning, and helping the next generation navigate their skilled trades career path.

    Keywords:

    electrician apprenticeship program, union vs non-union electrician, how to become an electrician, skilled trades career path, electrical journeyman license requirements, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Jon Lock, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    Resource Links:YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DailyElectricianInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/DailyElectricianYT
  • Host Andrew Brown sits down with serial entrepreneur and LiveSwitch founder Brian Hamilton to unpack what it really takes to succeed when starting a trades business. Brian shares real stories—from mentoring an ex-inmate contractor to lessons learned from running multi-million dollar tech and service companies. This episode is packed with contractor business advice, deep reflections on skilled trades entrepreneurship, and no-nonsense talk about pricing for tradespeople and providing exceptional trade business customer service. Whether you're a plumber, electrician, carpenter, or HVAC tech, this one’s for you.

    In This Episode:

    (00:03:30) – Brian Hamilton’s background and why the trades are the backbone of the economy

    (00:10:20) – The leap from skilled worker to business owner

    (00:18:45) – What new contractors get wrong about pricing and customers

    (00:30:00) – Real-world examples of success—and failure—when starting a trades business

    (00:42:15) – Why mentorship and education are key to skilled trades entrepreneurship

    (00:54:10) – How LiveSwitch helps contractors improve trade business customer service

    Key Takeaways:

    The trades are a mission, not just a job. Passion for craftsmanship and problem-solving is what separates great tradespeople from good ones.

    You need more than skills—you need systems. Running a business takes financial literacy, contractor business advice, and self-discipline.

    Customer service is your brand. Showing up on time and doing what you say you will do is the heart of effective trade business customer service.

    Start small, price smart. When starting a trades business, don't be afraid to take smaller jobs with the right margin—master pricing for tradespeople early.

    About the Guest:

    Brian Hamilton is the founder of LiveSwitch and Inmates to Entrepreneurs, with a decades-long career spanning tech startups and skilled trades entrepreneurship. A passionate advocate for contractors, tradespeople, and second chances, Brian helps aspiring entrepreneurs turn grit into growth using actionable, real-world insights. His mission? Empower people through small business ownership, especially in the trades industry.

    Keywords :

    starting a trades business, skilled trades entrepreneurship, contractor business advice, pricing for tradespeople, trade business customer service, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Brian Hamilton, LiveSwitch, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    Resources :Website: https://www.liveswitch.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brianhamiltonncX:  https://x.com/brianhamiltonnc
  • Host Andrew Brown sits down with Cale Mouser, a standout figure in the world of Skilled Trades Careers and Diesel Technician Training. From his humble beginnings as a mechanic in Kansas to competing on the global stage at WorldSkills Competition USA, Cale shares his inspiring path through technical college programs, international recognition, and the powerful role of industry support for trades. Whether you're an aspiring tradesperson, contractor, educator, or advocate, this episode offers invaluable insights into the trades industry and what it takes to build a successful future in skilled trades.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (01:45) – Cale’s early days in Kansas and entry into the trades

    (04:30) – The support from Caterpillar, Volvo, and other manufacturers

    (08:10) – What it’s like competing at WorldSkills Competition USA

    (12:50) – The value of technical college programs in the trades

    (18:20) – Career growth potential in diesel technician training

    (24:15) – Cale’s transition from competitor to instructor

    Key Takeaways:

    Industry support for trades can open doors to elite training and career advancement.

    Diesel technician training is a gateway to fulfilling and high-earning careers in the skilled trades.

    Events like WorldSkills Competition USA elevate the perception of trades careers globally.

    Technical college programs provide practical, hands-on education that leads directly to the workforce.

    About the Guest:

    Cale Mouser is a diesel technician turned educator who competed in WorldSkills Competition USA, representing the best in Skilled Trades Careers. A graduate of North Dakota State College of Science, Cale now teaches the next generation of tradespeople and serves as a passionate advocate for technical education and industry support for trades.

    Keywords:

    Skilled trades careers, Diesel technician training, WorldSkills competition USA, Technical college programs, Industry support for trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Cale Mouser, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    Resources:

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mouser_motorsports/

    WorldSkills USA profile: https://worldskillsusa.org/team/cale-mouser/

  • Host Andrew Brown welcomes Ryan Sullivan, founder of The Ryan Sullivan Show and Podcast Principles. They dive into Ryan’s journey from working as a mechanic to becoming a podcast strategist and entrepreneur. Ryan shares how the skilled trades industry shaped his work ethic and creativity, and how tradespeople can harness the power of podcasting and branding to elevate their blue collar businesses. Whether you're interested in skilled trades careers, starting a trades podcast, or making the leap from mechanic to business owner, this episode delivers valuable insights for both trades professionals and industry advocates.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    [00:03] – Discovering entrepreneurship through skilled trades careers

    [09:21] – Ryan's first job at a generational auto shop

    [18:14] – From mechanic to business owner: turning shop skills into a brand

    [25:35]– The importance of trades business branding in the digital age

    [32:42]– How starting a trades podcast can open doors

    [44:10]– Using podcasting for advocacy and trades industry storytelling

    Key Takeaways:

    Skilled trades careers can be the gateway to lifelong learning, entrepreneurship, and personal growth.

    You don’t need a degree to build a fulfilling career—blue collar entrepreneurship is thriving more than ever.

    Starting a trades podcast is one of the most effective ways to grow your network, build trust, and tell your story.

    Strong trades business branding helps contractors, plumbers, electricians, and other tradespeople stand out in a noisy online world.

    About the Guest:

    Ryan Sullivan is the founder of Podcast Principles and host of The Ryan Sullivan Show. With a background as an auto mechanic and DJ, Ryan eventually transitioned into media production, building a thriving business helping clients start and grow their podcasts. His passion for Skilled Trades, storytelling, and entrepreneurship continues to drive his mission of elevating tradespeople and empowering them to use their voice in the digital age.

    Keywords:

    Skilled trades careers, starting a trades podcast, blue collar entrepreneurship, trades business branding, from mechanic to business owner, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Ryan Sullivan, The Ryan Sullivan Show, Podcast Principles, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    Resource Links:Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sullybop/Website: https://www.podcastprinciples.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ryanrsullivan
  • Host Andrew Brown sits down with Bharani Rajakumar, CEO of Transfr, to explore the future of the skilled trades industry through the lens of virtual reality job training and trade school alternatives. From transformative success stories to the power of career exploration without a four-year degree, this conversation highlights real opportunities in skilled trades careers—including for women in the trades. Discover how technology is revolutionizing how we train, inspire, and build the next generation of craftsmen, contractors, and tradespeople.

    In this Episode:

    (02:05) - The powerful story of a former inmate who used VR job training to launch a manufacturing career

    (08:30) - Why traditional education fails to highlight skilled trades careers as viable options

    (13:55) - What Transfr is doing to change the game in career training using VR

    (21:12) - The rise of women in the trades and why it matters more than ever

    (27:40) - How career exploration through VR is shaping trade school alternatives

    (35:00) Why the future of the trades industry includes entrepreneurship, ownership, and upward mobility without college

    Key Takeaways:

    Virtual reality job training allows learners to safely explore multiple trades before committing to a specific path—empowering more informed decisions.

    Skilled trades careers offer early access to high-paying, fulfilling work—without student debt or a four-year degree.

    There’s a growing movement of women in the trades, proving that career success in HVAC, carpentry, welding, and electrical work is not gender-bound.

    Through trade school alternatives like Transfr’s VR training, learners gain hands-on experience and real-world confidence that translate directly into jobs.

    About the Guest:

    Bharani Rajakumar is the founder and CEO of Transfr, a company using cutting-edge virtual reality job training to build career exploration tools for the skilled trades industry. With a mission rooted in upward mobility without college, Bharani is a thought leader in developing trade school alternatives that prepare learners of all ages—including women in the trades—for successful careers in construction, HVAC, welding, and more.

    Keywords:

    Skilled trades careers, virtual reality job training, trade school alternatives, upward mobility without college, women in the trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Bharani Rajakumar, Transfr, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    Resource Links: LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bharanidharan-rajakumar-98aa1a1/Website: https://transfrinc.com/
  • Host Andrew Brown sits down with Crystal Latham-Alford, Executive Director of SkillsUSA Texas. They dive into the impact of SkillsUSA competitions, the importance of career technical education (CTE), and how students can prepare for successful skilled trades careers. Crystal shares insights on how trade school opportunities help bridge the gap in the workforce, the role of soft skills training, and how industries can better support the next generation of tradespeople. If you're passionate about craftsmanship, problem-solving, and trades careers, this episode is a must-listen!

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (00:02:15) – What is SkillsUSA and how it prepares students for skilled trades careers

    (00:08:40) – The importance of career technical education (CTE) and hands-on learning

    (00:15:10) – How SkillsUSA competitions simulate real-world work environments

    (00:23:45) – The role of soft skills training in career readiness for tradespeople

    (00:35:20) – How industry leaders and educators can support trade school opportunities

    (00:42:50) – Inspiring success stories from SkillsUSA competitors

    Key Takeaways:

    SkillsUSA competitions help students develop technical and leadership skills, preparing them for skilled trades careers.

    Career technical education (CTE) provides hands-on learning that bridges the gap between school and the workforce.

    Soft skills training, such as communication and problem-solving, is just as important as technical skills for long-term success in trades careers.

    Trade school opportunities offer viable career paths in industries like carpentry, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, millwrights, and construction.

    About the Guest:

    Crystal Latham-Alford is the Executive Director of SkillsUSA Texas, a leader in career technical education (CTE) and workforce development. With a passion for trades careers, she works to provide students with hands-on learning experiences, professional development, and networking opportunities in industries like construction, craftsmanship, and problem-solving. Under her leadership, SkillsUSA competitions continue to shape the next generation of skilled trades professionals.

    Keywords:

    SkillsUSA competition, skilled trades careers, career technical education (CTE), trade school opportunities, soft skills training, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Crystal Latham-Alford, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council.

    RESOURCE LINKS:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystal-latham-alford-89b417173/

  • Host Andrew Brown welcomes Brooke Gatchell, Social Media Specialist at SkillsUSA, to discuss the impact of the SkillsUSA welding competition and other trade competitions on students and professionals. They explore how skilled trades careers are evolving, the importance of trade school opportunities, and how organizations like SkillsUSA contribute to workforce development programs. They also discuss the National Leadership and Skills Conference, where the best in the trades industry showcase their craftsmanship and compete for top honors.

    In this Episode:

    (03:15) – Introduction to SkillsUSA and its role in shaping skilled trades careers.

    (07:40) – The impact of the SkillsUSA welding competition and its influence on students.

    (12:25) – The role of the National Leadership and Skills Conference in career development.

    (18:10)– How trade school opportunities help build a strong workforce.

    (25:35) – The importance of mentorship and hands-on experience in workforce development programs.

    (32:50) – Final thoughts on advocacy, career growth, and the future of the trades industry.

    Key Takeaways:

    SkillsUSA is a powerful platform – It helps students develop technical and soft skills, preparing them for skilled trades careers.

    Competitions drive excellence – Events like the SkillsUSA welding competition and the National Leadership and Skills Conference push students to perfect their craft.

    Trade school opportunities matter – Education and training in the trades are crucial for closing the skills gap and creating job-ready professionals.

    Workforce development programs are essential – Industry partnerships and training initiatives help ensure the future success of tradespeople.

    About the Guest:

    Brooke Gatchell is the Social Media Specialist at SkillsUSA, a leading organization in workforce development programs for students entering skilled trades careers. She is passionate about advocacy in the trades industry, helping students find success through trade school opportunities and career competitions like the SkillsUSA welding competition and the National Leadership and Skills Conference.

    Keywords:

    SkillsUSA welding competition, skilled trades careers, trade school opportunities, workforce development programs, National Leadership and Skills Conference, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Brooke Brooke Gatchell [00:00:00]:

    RESOURCE LINKS:Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brookegatchell/Website: https://www.skillsusa.org/
  • Host Andrew Brown sits down with James Holster of Firefly Aerospace to discuss his journey into the skilled trades, how he became a specialist in welding in the aerospace industry, and his work on the Blue Ghost Moon Lander. They explore the challenges of precision welding for spacecraft, the importance of skilled trades careers, and why hands-on work is critical in today's economy. James shares insights from his time in the U.S. Navy, his transition into aerospace, and how trade schools vs college played a role in his career path. If you're interested in careers in Firefly Aerospace welding, this episode is a must-listen.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (00:02:15) - James Holster & Firefly Aerospace Welding

    (00:08:32) - The challenges of welding the Blue Ghost Moon Lander

    (00:15:10) - Transitioning from the U.S. Navy to the skilled trades careers

    (00:22:45) - Why trade school vs college is an important decision

    (00:30:00) - The future of welding in the aerospace industry

    (00:38:20) - Advice for young people considering skilled trades careers

    Key Takeaways:

    The demand for skilled trades careers is growing, especially in fields like Firefly Aerospace welding, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, and millwrights.

    Precision welding in the aerospace industry requires strict tolerances, problem-solving skills, and technical expertise.

    Trade schools vs college: The right path depends on career goals, but the trades industry offers high-paying, rewarding careers.

    The Blue Ghost Moon Lander is a milestone for Firefly Aerospace, showcasing the critical role of tradespeople in space exploration.

    About the Guest:

    James Holster is a welding expert in the aerospace industry with over 23 years of experience. Starting his career in the U.S. Navy, he became a precision welder specializing in high-stakes environments such as submarines, nuclear reactors, and spacecraft. He has worked with Firefly Aerospace, SpaceX, and other industry leaders, helping develop cutting-edge technology like the Blue Ghost Moon Lander. Today, he continues to advocate for skilled trades careers and mentors the next generation of welders and tradespeople.

    Keywords:

    Blue Ghost Moon Lander, Firefly Aerospace welding, Skilled trades careers, Welding in aerospace industry, Trade school vs college, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, James Holster, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    RESOURCE LINKS:

    LinkedIn Profile URL: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-holster-aa62b949/Website: https://fireflyspace.com/
  • Host Andrew Brown sits down with Michael Krupnicki, the current President of the American Welding Society (AWS), to discuss the evolving landscape of Skilled Trades Careers. They explore the importance of Welding Education, the role of VR Welding Simulation in attracting the next generation of welders, and the critical Welding Workforce Shortage facing the industry today. Michael shares insights on the state of Skilled Trades, the challenges employers face in hiring skilled workers, and the steps being taken to close the gap.

    If you're interested in welding, construction, or other Trades Careers, this episode provides valuable insights into the industry's future and how organizations like AWS are working to promote and grow Skilled Trades Careers.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (00:00:34) – Introduction to the podcast and today’s guest, Michael Krupnicki, President of the American Welding Society (AWS).

    (00:02:27) – The role of VR Welding Simulation in engaging young people and promoting Welding Education.

    (00:05:47) – Social media’s impact on Trades Careers and why Skilled Trades Careers are gaining traction among Gen Z.

    (00:11:35) – Breaking down the average wages in welding and how to address the Welding Workforce Shortage.

    (00:20:52) – AWS membership benefits and networking opportunities for Trades Industry professionals.

    (00:26:43) – The need for more investment in Skilled Trades Education and addressing misconceptions about the industry.

    Key Takeaways:

    Welding Education is Evolving – With advancements in VR Welding Simulation, students can safely practice welding and gain experience before entering a shop.

    The Skilled Trades Industry Needs Workers – The Welding Workforce Shortage is a real challenge, with over 82,500 welders needed annually to meet demand.

    Social Media is a Game-Changer – Platforms like YouTube and Instagram are giving the next generation real-time insights into Trades Careers like welding, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, and Plumbers.

    AWS is Leading the Charge – The American Welding Society (AWS) is investing in education, safety standards, and industry networking to build a stronger future for Skilled Trades Careers.

    About the Guest:

    Michael Krupnicki is the current President of the American Welding Society (AWS) and a dedicated advocate for Welding Education. With decades of experience in welding, manufacturing, and skilled trades leadership, he has been instrumental in promoting the importance of Skilled Trades Careers. Michael is also the owner of a private welding school and has worked tirelessly to help young professionals enter and thrive in the Trades Industry

    Keywords:

    Skilled Trades Careers, Welding Education, American Welding Society (AWS), VR Welding Simulation, Welding Workforce Shortage, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Michael Krupnicki, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council.

    RESOURCE LINKS:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-krupnicki-07a2011b/Website: https://www.aws.org/
  • Host Andrew Brown sits down with Boyd Worsham, President of NCCER, to discuss the importance of Skilled Trades Careers, Construction Workforce Development, and Carpentry Apprenticeships. Boyd shares his journey from high school carpentry to leading a national organization dedicated to workforce training and NCCER Certification Benefits. They dive into the challenges facing the Trades Industry, the ongoing labor shortage, and the importance of structured training programs. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in Trade School vs. College and the future of Trades Careers.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (00:00:22) – Introduction to the episode and guest, Boyd Worsham

    (00:01:40) – The significance of SkillsUSA and how it supports Skilled Trades Careers

    (00:06:58) – What makes a great carpenter? The balance of Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, and Creativity

    (00:14:02) – The need for Construction Workforce Development and improving trade education awareness

    (00:24:21) – Advice for those looking to start their own business in the Trades Industry

    (00:44:01) – Key advice for young tradespeople: seizing Carpentry Apprenticeships and leadership

    Key Takeaways:

    The Importance of Trades Education Schools must promote Trades Careers alongside traditional college paths. Trade School vs. College should be an informed choice, not an afterthought.

    Training and Certifications Matter Earning an NCCER Certification significantly improves career prospects in Construction Workforce Development.

    Career Growth in the Skilled Trades Skilled Trades Careers offer opportunities for leadership, business ownership, and Industry Experts mentoring the next generation.

    Solving the Labor Shortage Awareness campaigns and initiatives like the Skilled Trades Advisory Council can help recruit more young people into the Trades Industry.

    About the Guest:

    Boyd Worsham is the President of NCCER (National Center for Construction Education and Research), a nonprofit dedicated to providing standardized training and NCCER Certification Benefits across multiple skilled trades. With over 30 years in the Construction Industry, Boyd has worked in Carpentry, project management, and workforce training. He is passionate about promoting Carpentry Apprenticeships and ensuring the next generation of Tradespeople receive the education and support they need to succeed.

    Keywords:

    Skilled Trades Careers, Construction Workforce Development, Carpentry Apprenticeships, Trade School vs. College, NCCER Certification Benefits, NCCER, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Boyd Worsham, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council

    RESOURCE LINKS:

    Website: https://www.nccer.org/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/boyd-worsham-b7b9b1183/
  • Host Andrew Brown speaks with Angela Coldwell, founder of Honor the Work, about the importance of early exposure to skilled trades education. They discuss how apprenticeships, career exploration, and hands-on learning can inspire the next generation of tradespeople. Angela shares insights on how educators and parents can guide students toward fulfilling careers in the trades industry, including carpentry, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, and millwrights. The conversation highlights the impact of mentorship, problem-solving, and creativity in the world of skilled trades careers.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (00:02:05) – Why career conversations about skilled trades should start early

    (00:09:21) – Changing perceptions of the trades industry in schools and families

    (00:17:55) – The benefits of apprenticeships and early hands-on experience

    (00:25:38) – Steps to becoming an entrepreneur in the trades careers field

    (00:32:12) – How educators can introduce tradespeople careers in classrooms

    (00:37:31) – The role of technology, VR, and gamification in skilled trades education

    Key Takeaways:

    Early exposure is key – Students should be introduced to skilled trades careers as early as elementary school to break biases and showcase opportunities.

    Apprenticeships accelerate career growth – Programs in the trades industry provide valuable hands-on experience, often leading to full-time jobs with great pay.

    Trades careers offer diverse paths – Whether in carpentry, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, millwrights, or construction, skilled workers can become contractors, business owners, or industry leaders.

    Creativity and problem-solving are essential – Tradespeople are innovators, using their skills to solve real-world problems and improve infrastructure.

    About the Guest:

    Angela Coldwell is the founder of Honor the Work, an organization dedicated to integrating skilled trades education into elementary and high school curriculums. As a former teacher, she has seen firsthand the gaps in education that prevent students from exploring trades careers. Angela is an advocate for tradespeople, working to connect students with industry experts, hands-on learning, and mentorship opportunities in fields like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, carpentry, and construction.

    Keywords: Skilled Trades Careers, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Angela Coldwell, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council, Apprenticeships, Hands-on Learning, Workforce Development, Skilled Labor, Blue-Collar Jobs, Vocational Training, Career Exploration, Job Readiness, Technical Skills, STEM Careers, Skilled Workforce, Entrepreneurship in Trades, Building Trades, Manufacturing, Skilled Trades Education

    RESOURCE LINKS:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelacoldwell/Website: https://honourthework.ca/
  • Host Andrew Brown sits down with Barry Zekelman, CEO of Zekelman Industries. Barry shares his incredible journey from inheriting his father's struggling company at 19 to transforming it into one of North America's largest steel pipe and tube manufacturers. Together, they discuss entrepreneurship in skilled trades, the importance of trades advocacy, building a thriving trades industry culture, and empowering tradespeople to succeed. This episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about skilled trades careers, leadership, and craftsmanship.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (00:00) - Introduction: Andrew Brown welcomes Barry Zekelman and sets the stage for discussing skilled trades careers.

    (04:30) - Barry Zekelman reflects on inheriting his father's business and the challenges of entrepreneurship in skilled trades.

    (10:15) - Building a strong trades industry culture and empowering employees for success.

    (20:00) - The role of problem-solving and creativity in skilled trades careers like carpentry, HVAC, and construction.

    (30:45) - Advocacy for trades careers: Why skilled trades are vital to our economy and communities.

    (40:00) - Closing thoughts: Barry's advice for young tradespeople and aspiring leaders.


    Key Takeaways:

    Empowering People is Key: Building a strong culture and trusting your team can elevate success in the trades industry.

    Trades Careers are Honorable: Careers in skilled trades like millwrights, electricians, plumbers, and contractors offer fulfillment and stability.

    Leadership is Learned and Earned: Barry emphasizes the importance of empathy, problem-solving, and teamwork in becoming a successful leader.

    Advocacy Matters: Trades advocacy and leadership are crucial for addressing the trades shortage and shaping the future of skilled trades careers.

    About the Guest:

    Barry Zekelman is the CEO and Executive Chairman of Zekelman Industries, a leading steel pipe and tube manufacturer in North America. Starting his leadership journey at the age of 19 after the sudden passing of his father, Barry turned a struggling company into a billion-dollar powerhouse. His passion for skilled trades careers, entrepreneurship in skilled trades, and advocacy for tradespeople has made him a respected leader in the industry. He is committed to creating opportunities for tradespeople and fostering a thriving trades industry culture.

    Keywords:

    Skilled Trades Careers, Trades Industry Culture, Barry Zekelman Interview, Entrepreneurship in Skilled Trades, Trades Advocacy and Leadership, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Toolfetch, Barry Zekelman, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council.

    RESOURCE LINKS

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barry-z-5a9a25268/

    Website: https://www.zekelman.com/

  • Host Andrew Brown interviews Jennifer Cline, also known as "Jenny from the Shop," a social media influencer and skilled trades advocate. Jennifer shares her journey from an unexpected life event to becoming a DIY expert, trades advocate, and creator who inspires women in trades and beyond. They discuss the importance of trades careers, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and the power of social media in promoting trades advocacy.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (00:01:16) – Andrew Brown introduces the podcast’s mission to spotlight Skilled Trades Careers and welcomes Jennifer Cline.

    (00:03:02) – Jennifer shares her inspiring story of stepping into her husband’s shoes to tackle DIY projects in her 1818 farmhouse.

    (00:09:43) – Jennifer discusses her impact on young women aspiring to enter the Trades Industry through her creative content.

    (00:17:32) – Transitioning from making flags to becoming a full-time content creator in the Skilled Trades space.

    (00:25:26) – The importance of social media for construction companies and Tradespeople to grow their businesses.

    (00:36:58) – Jennifer shares how listeners can connect with her on social media as “Jenny from the Shop.”

    Key Takeaways:

    Trades Advocacy is vital to inspiring the next generation, particularly young women, to consider high-paying and rewarding Trades Careers.

    Social media is a powerful tool for Tradespeople, contractors, and companies to promote their work and connect with new audiences.

    Creativity and Problem-solving are essential skills that drive success in both DIY projects and professional trades.

    Perseverance and adaptability are critical for navigating the challenges of entrepreneurship and advocating for the Skilled Trades Industry.

    About the Guest:

    Jennifer Cline, aka "Jenny from the Shop," is a talented DIYer, skilled trades advocate, and social media influencer. Her journey began after her husband's passing, which led her to embrace carpentry and construction projects in her 1818 farmhouse. Jennifer now inspires countless women in trades and showcases the power of creativity and craftsmanship through her social media channels.

    Keywords:

    Skilled Trades Careers, Women in Trades, Trades Advocacy, DIY Projects, Social Media for Trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Toolfetch, Jennifer Cline, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council.

    RESOURCE LINKS:

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennyfromtheshop1Instagram: https://instagram.com/jennyfromthe_shopLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-cline-ab038470/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Jennyfromtheshop
  • Host Andrew Brown dives into an engaging conversation with William McCoy, founder of Via. They discuss the importance of skilled trades careers and the transformative role of trades industry technology in addressing labor shortages. William shares how his innovative app streamlines contractor communication tools, supports apprenticeship programs, and promotes sustainability in trades. The conversation highlights the challenges and opportunities within the skilled trades industry and provides actionable insights for tradespeople and industry leaders.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (00:01:17)- Understanding the current state of skilled trades careers and labor shortages.

    (00:02:36) - How trades industry technology is connecting contractors and customers.

    (00:09:21) - Enhancing contractor communication tools with AI-driven solutions.

    (00:18:55) - The role of apprenticeship programs in fostering a new generation of tradespeople.

    (00:24:38) - Nationwide impact of technology in supporting sustainability in trades.

    Key Takeaways:

    Skilled trades careers are essential to the economy but face critical labor shortages due to an aging workforce.

    Trades industry technology, including apps and AI, is revolutionizing how contractors and customers interact.

    Apprenticeship programs are pivotal in bridging the skills gap and attracting younger generations to the trades.

    Sustainability in trades is achievable through innovative tools and scalable solutions that streamline operations and reduce inefficiencies.

    About the Guest:

    William McCoy, founder of Via, is an innovator dedicated to transforming the trades industry. Starting as an electrical apprentice, he identified critical gaps in contractor communication tools and workforce development. His app, Via, integrates trades industry technology to streamline operations, connect tradespeople with customers, and support sustainability in trades. Passionate about skilled trades careers, William advocates for apprenticeship programs and is committed to addressing labor shortages while empowering the next generation of tradespeople.

    Keywords:

    Skilled Trades Careers, Trades Industry Technology, Apprenticeship Programs, Contractor Communication Tools, Sustainability in Trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, William McCoy

    RESOURCE LINKS

    LinkedIn Profile URL: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williammccoyii/ Website: https://www.vehya.com/
  • Host Andrew Brown and guest Ryan Kiscaden delve deep into the world of skilled trades. They discuss the importance and positive outlook of Skilled Trades Careers, the critical issue of Trade Skills Education, opportunities for Tech Integration in Trades, and the power of Children's Books on Trades.

    Reinforce your passion for trades or discover new perspectives on this essential industry by tuning in!

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (00:03:45) Introduction to the podcast and the importance of skilled trades.

    (00:12:10) Discussion on the Trades Movement Newsletter and its role in advocating for skilled trades careers.

    (00:20:30) Ryan Kiscaden shares stories about celebrating skilled trades and the value of tradespeople like electricians and plumbers.

    (00:35:00) Chat about the decline in skilled trades and societal shifts in education, emphasizing Trade Skills Education.

    (00:50:15) Exploration of entrepreneurial opportunities within skilled trades.

    (01:05:45) The future of trades, including Tech Integration in Trades and Kiscaden Children's Books on Trades.

    Key Takeaways:

    Contrary to popular belief, skilled trades like carpentry, HVAC, and plumbing offer not just financial stability but also immense job satisfaction through problem-solving and creativity.Enhanced advocacy and integration of technical skills in education can bridge the skills gap and attract more young people to pursue trades careers.With advancements like IoT, AI, and VR, trades are evolving, making tech knowledge essential for future tradespeople, equipping them to handle innovative tools and methods.Ryan Kiscaden emphasizes creating engaging, educational books about trades to inspire children and cultivate an early appreciation for these essential careers.

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Ryan Kiscaden is an author and advocate for the skilled trades, inspired by his two young sons. He has written children's books like “The Water Came to a Stop” to inspire kids and change perceptions around trade careers. His efforts, documented on LinkedIn and Amazon, focus on educating the next generation about the importance and value of skilled trades. Kiscaden is also working on a new book about HVAC, expected later this year, while actively promoting trade skills education and tech integration in the trades industry.

    Keywords:

    Skilled Trades Career, Trades Movement Newsletter, Trade Skills Education, Tech Integration in Trades, Children's Books on Trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council (STAC)

    RESOURCE LINKS

    Facebook Page URL: https://www.facebook.com/ryankiscadenLinkedIn Profile URL: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryankiscadenYouTube Channel URL: https://www.youtube.com/@RyanKiscadenTVWebsite: https://kiscadenconsulting.com/
  • Host Andrew Brown sits down with Jamie McMillan, an ironworker and advocate for skilled trades, to discuss her inspiring journey in a male-dominated field.

    Jamie shares her insights on breaking stereotypes, the importance of hands-on skills, and the role of mentorship and social media in empowering future tradespeople. They also explore how tech integration and education can address the skilled trades shortage and inspire the next generation to consider fulfilling careers in the trades.

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    (00:03:15) Social Media Impact on Trades: Elevating the visibility of tradespeople and inspiring the next generation.

    (00:12:45) The Importance of Role Models and Mentorship in Trades: Jamie’s experience and the support she received.

    (00:22:30) Concept of Being 'Self-Made': Importance of guidance and support from others.

    (00:34:00) Mentoring Younger Generations: Reciprocal learning and the influence of mentorship.

    (00:46:10) Challenges in Asking for Help: Personal struggles and the significance of reaching out.

    (00:58:20) ADHD and Professional Life: Jamie’s journey, misdiagnoses, and managing ADHD effectively.

    Key Takeaways:

    Prove Your Worth: Breaking stereotypes requires hard work and proving your abilities in the trades.Mentorship Matters: Seek and provide mentorship to foster growth and confidence in the skilled trades community.Skilled Trades Education: Practical, hands-on education and exposure to trades can change the trajectory of a student’s life.Adapt and Advocate: Embrace tech integration while advocating for the preservation of hands-on skills.

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Jamie McMillan is a trailblazing ironworker and co-founder of Kick Ass Careers, an organization dedicated to promoting skilled trades to students across North America. With over 21 years of experience, Jamie is a passionate advocate for women in the trades, using her platform to inspire the next generation and redefine perceptions of the industry.

    RESOURCE LINKS

    Website: https://madeinthetrade.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-mcmillan-90010397/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Building2Resilience

    Keywords:

    social media impact on trades, Jamie McMillan, role models in trades, tradeswomen mentorship, ADHD and Skilled Trades, Skilled Trades Career, Trade Skills Education, Tech Integration in Trades, Children's Books on Trades, Trades Movement Newsletter, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council (STAC).

  • We dive into the world of electric vehicles, Bogi Lateiner's empowering women-led Chevy build, and the challenges and triumphs of entrepreneurship in trades.

    We sit down with the phenomenal Bogi Lateiner, known for her impressive work on "All Girls Garage." In this episode, Bogi shares her unique experiences with the quiet power of electric vehicles and how modern technology is reshaping the auto industry. We also cover her inspiring journey, from bringing together a group of 90 women to build a Chevy showcased at SEMA, to the challenges she faced transitioning from an automotive technician to a business owner.

    Bogi and our host, Andrew Brown, discuss the critical importance of teamwork, community, and mentorship, and tackle the cultural barriers that women face in traditionally male-dominated trades. They shed light on the harsh realities of entrepreneurship, the importance of seeking support, and the ongoing need for inclusive workplace environments. Join us for an insightful conversation that celebrates skilled tradespeople and envisions a more diverse and supportive industry.

    Bogi Lateiner's Bio:

    Bogi Lateiner has spent her career in the ever-evolving world of automotive mechanics. Starting off in the 60s, Bogi experienced firsthand the sluggish pace of technological advancements in cars. Over the years, she witnessed a groundbreaking transformation, comparable to the shift from cassette tapes to digital music. Her deep understanding of traditional vehicles became a cornerstone as she adapted to the lightning-fast innovation in the automotive industry. With decades of experience, Bogi remains a reliable source of knowledge in a field where technology never stands still.

    Bogi Lateiner's Social Media:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bogisgarage/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BogisGarage https://www.youtube.com/@withhertwohandsInstagram: @bogisgarage @girlganggarage @withhertwohandsWebsite: https://www.girlganggarage.com https://www.bogisgarage.com. https://withhertwohands.com

    Timestamp Overview:

    (00:00) Volkswagen Bug inspires many auto mechanics.

    (05:55) Electric cars need mechanics; technology evolves.

    (07:53) Silent acceleration can be disorienting and thrilling.

    (12:32) Experienced in car repair, not performance upgrades.

    (15:49) Expose, support, and create inclusive trade environments.

    (17:10) Women face barriers, harassment, and lack support.

    (22:39) Find mentors, establish boundaries, let work speak.

    (25:33) Work's fine, culture's hard; makes leaving inevitable.

    (28:10) Work environments vary by region and culture.

    (30:49) Being a mechanic requires learning diverse skills.

    (35:59) "Reconsider reinventing; solutions likely exist already."

    (38:49) Harsh feedback disrupted supportive business bubble.

    (42:50) Friends defending you feels absolutely the best.

    (45:14) Your contact list is your most valuable tool.

    (47:38) Join Trades Movement newsletter for skilled trades.

    Key Takeaways

    Driving into the Future...