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Over breakfast in San Diego, I sat down with returning guest Kristen Tideman to analyze the 2024 presidential election through fresh eyes. Drawing from a 15-speaker mega-panel Kristen had just attended at the American Academy of Religion conference, we explored several alternative frameworks for understanding the election results. We discussed the concept of "vibes-based voting" using David French's curling analogy, which suggests voter sentiment (like a curling stone) can only be marginally influenced by campaigns. This led us to examine how feelings about the economy, nostalgia, and desire for change played a bigger role than explicit policy positions. We challenged the prevailing white Christian nationalism narrative by looking at immigrant voting patterns, and explored Trump's appeal as an "avatar of hope" for voters frustrated with cultural constraints. In the Patron-only second half, we delved into identity politics, anti-elite sentiment, and potential voting reforms. While more political coverage surely lies ahead, this conversation helped foster greater understanding of how we arrived at these results.
Kristen's Company Website | tidycocreative.com
Highlights
04:20 The Impact of Politics on Daily Life
09:42 What is “Vibes-Based Voting?”
16:10 Beyond White Christian Nationalism
25:14 Trump as an Avatar of Hope
34:11 The Role of Identity in Politics
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In this episode, I speak with Kristian Smith, a fifth-generation Baptist preacher doing groundbreaking work at the intersection of Black church traditions and progressive theology. While many white religious deconstruction journeys (including my own) focus primarily on intellectual and theological questions, Kristian explains how Black church deconstruction involves much deeper communal and embodied dimensions. The Black church has historically served as more than just a religious institution—it's been the heart of Black community life and one of the few spaces where Black Americans could gather with true autonomy. Kristian offers a fascinating framework that separates spirituality from theology, arguing that while Black church spirituality (including its emotional expressiveness, music, and communal experience) has direct links to African spiritual traditions, its theology was largely borrowed from white evangelicalism. His work focuses on preserving these life-giving cultural and spiritual elements while developing new theological frameworks that better serve people's full humanity. Our conversation opened my eyes to the unique dynamics within Black Christian communities and the diverse ways people experience faith transitions, particularly when religious identity is deeply intertwined with cultural preservation and community belonging.
Kristian's Instagram | @kristiansmith
Kristian's Podcast | Holy Smokes: Cigars and Spirituality
Highlights
09:05 The Emotional Weight of Leaving the Black Church
18:06 The Disconnect Between Black and White Deconstruction Spaces
30:00 Progressive Theology and the Black Church
44:56 The Vision for a Progressive Black Church
52:36 Navigating Leadership Dynamics in Multicultural Spaces
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Jon Ogden, co-founder of Uplift Kids, joined me to talk about navigating spiritual parenting in ways that prevent religious trauma. As a father of two young children, and someone who frequently references Dr. Lisa Miller's research on child spirituality and mental health, I was particularly interested in Uplift's approach. Jon explained their model of combining internal guidance with modern science and ancient wisdom from a variety of traditions, moving beyond simplistic "follow your heart" messaging. We explored how parents can't simply transfer their mature spiritual understanding to children, who must undergo their own developmental journey. I found their developmentally-appropriate framework promising for helping children build a foundation that can withstand future questioning without causing a spiritual crisis. Our patron-only segment covered post-secularism, concerning trends in youth meaninglessness, and the importance of balanced virtue ethics.
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Highlights:
02:59 The Role of Spirituality in Child Development
12:00 The Process of Spiritual Development
18:13 The Inner Compass: Guiding Children in Life
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For our 300th episode, Josh, Tony and I get together for another Generation Gap Culture Hour. We reflect on our recent Beer Camp adventures (including an unexpected AirBnb mystery guest) before diving into cultural analysis of the Tyson-Paul fight and our changing relationships with political media consumption. We explore how each of us is processing post-election coverage differently — from my focus on constructive analysis to Josh abandoning his NPR habits to Tony's insights from conversations with his adult children. The discussion highlights the privilege of academic distance while examining how to balance staying informed with mental health. The Patron-only second half includes deeper dives into progressive Christianity, academic discourse, and Joe Rogan's shifting stance on spirituality.
Highlights:
06:14 Would You Rather: Podcasting Dilemmas
14:56 Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul: A Cultural Commentary
20:52 Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions
38:50 Political Perspectives and Siloed Views
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Writer Sarah Southern joins me to share her deconstruction journey from fundamentalism to freedom. Sarah shares how her initial process was paralyzed by the infinite stakes of questioning faith, until wonder—particularly through Colorado's mountains—offered an unexpected path forward. Drawing on Abraham Heschel's wisdom about wonder as the foundation of religious experience, Sarah found that direct encounters with natural beauty provided a way to remain spiritually engaged while processing religious trauma. Rather than requiring doctrinal certainty, this approach created space for authentic exploration through direct experience of the sacred. For Patrons, our conversation continues with Sarah's travels to Salzburg and Japan, exploring how different cultural and religious traditions can expand our spiritual horizons even further.
Sarah's Instagram | sarahbsouthern
Sarah's Substack | @sarahsouthern
Sarah's Article | Embracing Violence
Highlights:
02:01 Navigating Deconstruction and Crises of Belief
05:50 The Impact of Fear and Violence in Faith
10:05 Cultural Evolution and Human Connection
15:55 Traveling Through Faith and Diversity
22:07 The Balance of Wonder and Fear in Faith
25:58 Finding Beauty in New Landscapes
Dan's New Substack | Religion on the Mind
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We're back with another comedian episode of YHP, this time featuring Tom Fell, whose brilliant social media videos skewer corporate speak and existential themes with painful accuracy. Our conversation centers on psychedelics and consciousness, where Tom demonstrates what I'd call "materialist wonder" - particularly in his story about encountering a whale shortly after taking mushrooms. Rather than viewing it through a supernatural or New Age lens, Tom finds deeper meaning in understanding the scientific factors that make this coincidence possible. This approach, which sees wonder in natural causes rather than divine intervention, reflects the same balance found in his comedy: a critical yet playful perspective that serves as a pressure release valve for processing life's profound and absurd aspects. And yes, we laugh a lot!
Tom's Linktree | linktr.ee/tomfell
Highlights:
09:11 Truth in Comedy: The Power of Humor
29:58 Existential Themes in Comedy
42:16 Navigating Drug Culture and Personal Choices
53:18 The Intersection of Science and Spirituality
01:05:10 Spirituality Beyond Religion: Personal Revelations
Dan's New Substack | Religion on the Mind
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The You Have Permission team of Dan Koch, Josh Gilbert and Joy Vetterlein sit down to process the election a day later. Dan puts on his therapy hat and offers some general coping mechanisms and how to deal with the catastrophizing thoughts blue voters might have around a Trump presidency. We also discuss listener comments and questions, and talk through what we’re learning and taking away from the experience. Listen if you could use some friends to process with and find a bit of hope, but skip this one if you’re looking for detailed political analysis or if you just need to stay in your anger a little longer.
Sharon McMahon's Podcast | Here's Where It Gets Interesting
Robert Wright's Election Video | Nervous About the Election? Watch This.
The NonZero Substack | NonZero Newsletter
Dan's New Substack | Religion on the Mind
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Take a break from election coverage and enjoy this thoughtful conversation with Brandan Robertson, a pastor in Queens, NY, about "Christian agnosticism" and navigating faith with intellectual honesty. We explore how embracing uncertainty about religious claims can actually deepen rather than diminish faith, moving beyond the rigid certainty of our evangelical backgrounds toward a more nuanced approach. We share our experiences of finding value in Christian traditions while holding space for doubt, and discuss how this approach resonates with both religious and non-religious people alike. The conversation expands to cover selective Christianity, religious commitment, trends in progressive faith communities, and even Joel Osteen's effective use of simple religious messaging. It’s a refreshing perspective on how faith can remain relevant and authentic in an increasingly complex world!
Brandon's Website | brandanrobertson.com
Highlights:
02:43 Christian Agnosticism: Embracing Mystery and Wonder
25:51 The Limits of Human Knowledge and Religious Pragmatism
33:08 The Tension Between Deconstruction and Faith
54:11 Challenges in Building Lasting Change in Progressive Religious Movements
Dan's New Substack | Religion on the Mind
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Today I'm joined by frequent podcast collaborators Josh Gilbert and Kristen Tideman to discuss "The Iron Claw" (2023), a film that chronicles the tragic story of the Von Erich wrestling family during the territorial wrestling era of the 1980s. At its core, the film explores how patriarch Fritz Von Erich projects his unrealized wrestling ambitions onto his sons through conditional love and emotional suppression while his sons form intense bonds supporting each other through their shared pursuit of wrestling excellence. We share our personal reactions to the film's heavy themes and explore our own boundaries with difficult content. For our Patron-only segment, we dive deep into the film's haunting afterlife scene, leading to vulnerable conversations about faith, mortality, family tragedy, and questions of legacy. I even talk about crying! Like all impactful films, "The Iron Claw" opened up avenues of conversation we might not have reached otherwise, revealing how this portrait of a family trapped in cycles of ambition, loyalty, and tragedy resonates with our own experiences.
Highlights:
12:40 Personal Reflections on Film and Emotional Impact
20:05 The Intersection of Film and Personal Experience
30:12 The Movie Method: A Therapeutic Approach to Film
Movie | The Iron Claw
Episode with Jenny Hamelton | Using Movies in Therapy (#265)
Jenny's Website | jennyhamiltoncounselling.wordpress.com
The Movies Could Be Good For You Article | https://theconversation.com/watching-movies-could-be-good-for-your-mental-health-214325
Dan's New Substack | Religion on the Mind
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Join Dan Koch and Joy Vetterlein for another "After Hours" episode of You Have Permission as they dive into Netflix's hit series "Nobody Wants This." While a rom-com might seem like an unexpected choice for YHP, this show about an agnostic podcaster (Kristen Bell) falling for a progressive rabbi (Adam Brody) offers surprisingly rich material for exploring faith, doubt, and relationships. Dan and Joy unpack several fascinating themes from the first episode: the Jewish approach to wrestling with religious uncertainty, refreshingly honest relationship dynamics that buck typical rom-com tropes, the complex dynamics of religious authority and spiritual interpretation, and thoughtful discussion of how Jewish audiences are receiving the show's cultural portrayal. While lighter than our usual fare, this episode demonstrates how pop culture can open doors to deeper conversations about faith, psychology, and human connection. Let us know if you'd like to see more episodes in this casual evening format and/or more discussion of current shows and movies!
Highlights
15:05 Cultural Reflections on Judaism and Christianity
19:58 Faith, Doubt, and Spirituality in Relationships
30:12 Attachment Theory and Relationship Patterns
52:47 Cultural Stereotypes in Relationships
01:02:14 Near-Death Experiences and Life Changes
Joy's Website | joyvetterlein.com
The Attachment-Based Romance Video Dan Mentions | Why We Pick Difficult Partners
Dan's New Substack | Religion on the Mind
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Therapists Hillary McBride and Preston Hill joined me discussing their Spiritual First Responders Project and the complexities of religious trauma. We explored how religious trauma uniquely impacts one's sense of meaning and community, often occurring over extended periods and becoming deeply ingrained in a person's worldview. Hillary highlighted how religious environments can inadvertently reinforce traumatic experiences, while Preston offered theological insights on how certain concepts can create conditions for spiritual abuse. We delved into their innovative project, which provides support groups for individuals renegotiating their spiritual identities. As a fellow practitioner in this field, I'm excited about their work and its potential impact.
Highlights
12:56 Understanding Complex Religious Trauma
24:08 Moral Gaslighting and Spiritual Helplessness
30:16 Cognitive vs. Embodied Therapy
34:35 Spiritual First Responders Project Overview
43:33 Creating Healing Spaces
Spiritual First Responder's Project | sfrproject.org
Hillary's Website | hillarylmcbride.com
Hillary's New Book | Practices for Embodied Living
Preston's Website | drprestonhill.com
Dan's New Substack | Religion on the Mind
The Spiritual First Responders Project is a research initiative on mental health and spiritual meaning-making for those experiencing faith deconstruction. We offer spiritual process groups led by licensed mental health professionals for those who are deconstructing or have experienced church hurt. The project is not religiously affiliated or sponsored by any church. Our only goal is to support you in your mental and spiritual health. For more information and to get involved, visit sfrproject.org or email us directly at [email protected].
**This is a research study and participants will be asked to complete surveys before and after the process group experience.
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Musician Jayne Sugg joins the podcast to discuss her journey through faith deconstruction and its profound impact on her creative process. Raised in a charismatic, Pentecostal church where her family led worship, Jayne's faith and music were deeply intertwined from a young age. This deconstruction process resulted in a significant creative crisis as Jayne struggled to find authentic artistic expression outside the familiar framework of worship music. Her story illustrates the deep connection between belief systems and artistic expression, and how personal crises can catalyze artistic growth. Tune in to hear how Jayne ultimately rediscovered her musical voice by exploring new genres and perspectives.
Jayne Sugg | Spotify
Jayne's Website | jaynesugg.com
Chapters:
05:21 Navigating Post-Evangelical Christian Artistry
33:27 Deconstruction in Worship Music
53:24 Nurturing Creativity in Religious Communities
01:10:30 The Impact of Disillusionment on Musical Development
01:31:05 Cultural Influences on Musical Expression
Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind
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In this special "after hours" episode of "You Have Permission," Dan and his old friend Lindsay share their biggest regrets from evangelical purity culture. They explore how this nonbiblical but influential sexual ethic affected both men and women during adolescence, acknowledging that women bore the brunt of its impact. Dan and Lindsay reminisce about cringeworthy memories, like bizarre sex ed object lessons and being used as "purity examples" in youth group. They discuss how purity culture shaped their limited sex education and filtered their understanding of sexuality and relationships. The conversation touches on the lasting effects of purity culture on mental health, physical well-being, and current relationships. The first half of this more personal and casual episode is available for free, with the deeper, more candid discussion reserved for Patrons.
Lindsay's Website | www.stranniganandsons.com
Lindsay on Instagram | @lindsaystrannigan
Episode #187 with Lindsay | Walk Me Through: Jesus Movement Music '67-'79 (Part 1)
Highlights
05:55 Personal Regrets and Experiences
12:08 The Impact of Purity Culture on Relationships
18:09 Sex Education and Its Gaps
23:55 Navigating Sexuality and Shame
35:50 Health Consequences of Purity Culture
Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind
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In this special episode, Dan brings together his "Big Five" friends—Tripp Fuller, Myron Penner, Sarah Concepcion, and Sarah Lane Ritchie—to playfully mock and critically examine the Enneagram. Dan introduces the "Danneagram," an AI-generated personality system, sparking a lively discussion that oscillates between humorous riffs on personality typing and serious critiques. The group debates the value of such systems, even if not scientifically valid, and covers other topics like birth order, religious anthropology, and even "Lord of the Rings" characters. Join in for a thought-provoking and entertaining dive into the allure and limitations of personality assessments.
Previous Enneagram Episodes:
Ep #101 | Is the Enneagram Real?
Ep #161 | The Enneagram Doesn't Hold Up
Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind
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Dr. Kirk Honda of Psychology in Seattle returns to discuss the intersection of psychology and popular media. We explore the world of reality TV through a psychological lens, where Dr. Honda makes a compelling case for using these shows as tools for psychoeducation and cultural insight. According to him, even heavily edited content can serve as a springboard for discussing broader psychological concepts. From relationship dynamics in "Love is Blind" to personality assessments discussed during the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard trial, we examine how popular culture can be leveraged to increase psychological literacy among the public. This conversation offers a fresh perspective on the potential of reality TV as a vehicle for understanding human behavior and mental health, demonstrating how clinicians and educators can engage thoughtfully with popular media to foster greater psychological awareness.
Highlights
02:56 The Role of Movies in Personal Development
11:55 The Intersection of Therapy and Media Representation
23:52 The Ethics of Reality TV and Therapy
Previous Episode with Kirk:
Episode 88 | Secular Therapy's Religion Blind Spot
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000491974985
Kirk's Past Episodes:
Kirk's Podcast | Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk's YouTube Channel | Psychology in Seattle
Psychology In Seattle Website | psychologyinseattle.com
Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind
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In this special episode, Dan brings together his "Big Five" friends—Tripp Fuller, Myron Penner, Sarah Concepcion, and Sarah Lane Ritchie—to playfully mock and critically examine the Enneagram. Dan introduces the "Danneagram," an AI-generated personality system, sparking a lively discussion that oscillates between humorous riffs on personality typing and serious critiques. The group debates the value of such systems, even if not scientifically valid, and covers other topics like birth order, religious anthropology, and even "Lord of the Rings" characters. Join in for a thought-provoking and entertaining dive into the allure and limitations of personality assessments.
Previous Enneagram Episodes:
Ep #101 | Is the Enneagram Real?
Ep #161 | The Enneagram Doesn't Hold Up
Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind
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In this week's episode, I sit down with Katelyn Dixon and Sarah Almodovar, co-hosts of the Still Christian podcast, for another installment in my Still Christian series. We explore our diverse religious backgrounds and experiences questioning faith, from Katie's "dark night of the soul" to Sarah's period of rebellion in New York City. We also discussed the idea of "undeniable" spiritual experiences. Drawing from my philosophy background, I propose a more nuanced approach to these experiences, suggesting we treat them as important data points in our spiritual lives rather than irrefutable proof. While our approaches to faith differ — with Katie and Sarah emphasizing personal, subjective experiences and my leaning towards a more analytical view — this conversation showcases the presence of diversity within Christian spirituality and the value of open, engaging dialogue about faith.
In the patron-only second half of the episode, we dive deeper into the role of suffering in faith, different approaches to religion, the interplay between art and faith, and our shared experience of hosting podcasts about Christianity in contemporary contexts. Join or log on to your Patreon account to hear the full, ad-free version of this episode.
Highlights
09:08 Dark Nights of the Soul
11:57 Questioning Christian Identity
14:49 Experiences of God's Presence
17:53 Spiritual Experiences and Interpretation
20:48 The Intersection of Faith and Modern Life
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John and Linn Haralson discuss their journey from complementarianism to egalitarianism regarding women in ministry. As long-time members of their church community, I've witnessed their progression firsthand, making this behind-the-scenes look particularly interesting. We explore the complexities of changing deeply held beliefs within a marriage and church leadership context. Lynn shares how events like the Charleston massacre in 2016 catalyzed her shift in perspective, while John describes his more gradual journey, influenced by leaving the PCA and reading William Witt's "Icons of Christ." The couple candidly discussed their "don't ask, don't tell" period and the personal costs of their former beliefs. We also delve into the challenges of guiding a congregation through such a significant doctrinal change, including the anxiety preceding the church vote and the intentional process of education and discussion. Their story illuminates how changing one's mind on theological issues is a deeply personal process affecting relationships, community dynamics, and individual spiritual journeys.
Highlights:
05:14 Different Perspectives on Gender Roles
19:42 The Cost of Changing Beliefs
35:24 Living with Complementarianism within Marriage
59:03 Validating Grief and Loss within Complementarian Beliefs
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In this episode, I welcomed back Dr. Pam Ebstyne King to discuss her framework of six facets for spiritual health. We focused on "transcendence and spirituality," where Pam expanded on Dr. Lisa Miller's definition to include not just experiencing something beyond oneself, but also responding to it. This resonated deeply with me, prompting thoughts on evolving my two-item model of spirituality and religiosity into a three-item model including transcendence. Pam's research on "spiritual exemplars" illustrated how individuals allow transcendent experiences to shape their identity, beliefs, and actions. This conversation sparked ideas about a more holistic model of spiritual life, acknowledging the initial experience of transcendence, the personal spiritual journey, and the communal religious practices that often follow.
Highlights
09:13 Six Facets of Spiritual Health
19:30 Transcendence and Spirituality
23:13 Habits and Rhythms
25:59 Relationships and Community
30:45 Vocation and Purpose
35:49 Identity and Narrative
41:49 Ethics and Virtues
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Past YHP Episode with Pam King:
#129 | Religion, Virtue & Human Thriving
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In the second episode of our series of conversations with comedians about religion and spirituality, comedian Maggie Lally joined me to share her genuinely unique religious experiences and how they inform her comedy and worldview.
From a sheltered Catholic upbringing by a former Jesuit priest to becoming a “teen witch” in adolescence, Maggie was raised with a sense of spiritual openness that she still carries with her today. We discussed all the various therapeutic approaches she has experienced (including one who inspired a comedy bit about “overly empathetic white female therapists”) and connected on the practice of centering prayer.
Highlights
06:33 The Journey of Maggie's Father: From Jesuit to Family Man
36:33 The Impact of Teenage Witchcraft
43:38 The Role of Therapy and Spiritual Direction
50:31 Cultivating a Meditation Practice
01:00:23 Exploring Spirituality and Religion
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