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  • "I'm a living testament of a guy with PTSD who's been on the ledge, and I haven't let that stop me not only helping others, but getting to that point where I can help myself."
    As we kick off Men's Mental Health month, we bring you a special conversation with 2x Super Bowl Champion and Chiefs star running back, Clyde Edwards-Helaire as he opens up and shares his traumatic but powerful story of tragedy and healing. This past summer, Clyde courageously shared his journey of PTSD, stemming from an unfortunate event in 2018 when he was forced to act in self-defense to protect himself and his best friend. That incident happened while he was playing for the LSU National Championship team, which Clyde describes as the best time of his life on the field and the worst year of his life away from the game.
    On today's episode of the Pivot in partnership with Fanatics, Ryan, Fred, and Channing sit down with Clyde to unpack the impact of that day and everything he’s been dealing with since—from the mental and physical toll of PTSD to how he’s coping and finding his way forward with help from the Kansas City Chiefs, specifically Coach Andy Reid and best friend teammate, Travis Kelce.
    Clyde speaks candidly about the intense aftermath, describing a rollercoaster of emotions, hospitalizations, and a period when he only felt safe and like himself wearing his helmet on the field. That struggle to maintain normalcy away from football and the pressures he’s faced since that day have been challenging. He describes wrestling with guilt, constant turmoil and internal battles that trauma brings. Cleared of all legal charges, the split-second choice of being shot or pulling the trigger in defense is something that haunts him to this day: "It was either save my friend and myself or an outcome we may not be here to talk about today."
    Struggling with the aftermath of that choice, understanding he did what he had to do, the star running back has tried to continue to move forward but Clyde confesses that when he started to question his purpose and became physically ill day after day. Despite being the first round pick and core part of the Chiefs Super Bowl winning teams of late, his mental health battle was no longer something he could hide which caused him to face the pain head on and seek the help he needed, even if that meant putting the game he loves aside.
    One of the things that’s helped Clyde hold on is the support he’s received from people who truly care- like Coach Andy Reid and Travis Kelce. Reid has been a rock for him—giving him some of the biggest, most reassuring hugs and urging him to take the time he needs to get the help he needs now to set him up for a better future. Kelce, too, has been like a big brother, always by his side and lifting him up during his toughest moments. Their friendship, built over five years with the Chiefs, has become a vital part of Clyde’s journey. Having that kind of support has not only helped him heal but has also shown him how valuable it is to feel seen and supported through difficult times.
    In talking to Ryan, Fred, and Channing, Clyde reflects on his path forward, recognizing that this experience is part of his story—one he hopes can help others facing similar struggles. He’s learning to find peace within himself, accepting that while the trauma will always be a part of him, it doesn’t have to define him. Clyde is committed to raising awareness about PTSD and mental health, hoping that by sharing his truth, he can offer encouragement to others who feel alone in their battles. His story reminds us that even our heroes—athletes we watch and cheer for—are human, with their own complex lives and personal journeys to healing. Tap in for more from this inspiring episode only on the Pivot Podcast, and be sure to hit that subscribe button!
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  • "When you got young guys and girls coming up underneath you, they want to take your spot, and they should. I want you to come in here and out work me...I want you to fight for it. But I'm gonna fight back." 
    Ahead of his big win at WWE Crown Jewel this weekend, wrestling icon Seth Rollins joined The Pivot Podcast in partnership with Fanatics to talk about his journey in wrestling, life outside the ring, the one thing that changed everything for him and his vision for the future. Although he's "closer to the end than the beginning" of his career, he's still as passionate as ever...and still dominates the sport. Rollins opens up to Ryan, Fred, and Channing all about his ambitions from being a kid, his relentless work ethic, and how fatherhood has given him a new purpose beyond the ring,
    From a young age, Rollins had grit. He never considered a backup plan and refused to be outworked, having faith in his dreams and working towards his goals day in and day out. Known for his role as a "heel" in the ring, he admits that being the antagonist is both more fun and, in today’s world of social media, sometimes easier in the WWE universe. He emphasizes how crafting a memorable character is essential in WWE, and dives into the current characters in the modern league.
    But Rollins' focus isn't all wrestling as it was throughout his life. Becoming a father has been pivotal for him, and he relates to the guys about being a girl dad alongside his badass WWE wife Becky Lynch. He shares how becoming a parent completely shifted his priorities and It took the pressure off of wrestling and put it on being the best dad he can be. But before his daughter...came his marriage, and he gets honest with us about how he got Lynch to fall in love with him and the beginning of their relationship.
    While he's found love in other parts of his life, his passion for wrestling remains strong, and he takes pride in mentoring the next generation, teaching them tricks of the trade while still protecting his spot. He chops it up with the guys, telling unforgettable stories about sharing the ring with icons like the Rock, Roman Reigns, and John Cena, and his admiration for athletes like Brock Lesnar. And of course, Rollins talks all about the thrill of WrestleMania that doesn't get old (even if he is). For him, wrestling's a marathon, not a sprint—and that’s what keeps him coming back, year after year. 
    Tap in for more from this episode for WWE fans and lovers of the sport. Don't miss out on all episodes, every Tuesday and Friday, by subscribing to our YouTube channel.
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  • "Get back on the phone with Nike and you tell them next year, I'm bout to win MVP, I'm bout to take over the league, and if they don't re-sign me they're gonna look stupid." Jonquel Jones WNBA champion, NY Liberty Champion
    Tap in for this week's Friday episode of the Pivot in partnership with Fanatics for a feel-good conversation of sports, triumph and transcension that you don't want to miss. Ryan, Fred, and Channing host the one and only Jonquel Jones, 2024 WNBA Finals MVP and newly crowned champion with the New York Liberty. Fresh off a nail-biting overtime win against the Minnesota Lynx, Jonquel talks with us about what it means to finally reach the top after years of grit and grind. She takes us behind the scenes of her incredible journey from being a Bahamas native to becoming one of the WNBA’s fiercest players, sharing how she's faced down defeat, overcome obstacles on and off the court, and stayed focused on the ultimate dream: a championship title.
    Jonquel opens up on how the WNBA has transformed in recent years, from deep storytelling to the skyrocketing fan engagement that’s brought new life to the league. After 8 years in the league, JJ's experienced the evolution first hand, and gets candid about the struggles she and other players used to face, but now more than ever, people are tuning in to watch elite female athletes do what they do best. Beyond the stats and highlights, Jonquel is passionate about creating real change for the future of the game, hoping that one day players won’t have to go overseas to make a living like she has to, and can thrive right here in the United States. 
    Off the court, Jonquel is a leader through handling tough issues with humor and humility. JJ reflects on her journey of self-discovery, from embracing her authentic self as a proud Black-Lesbian woman to realizing her power as a role model for young players. She shares a series of pivotal and emotional moments, like standing courtside before the Finals game and soaking in the reality of the record-breaking crowd of 18,090 she was playing in front of-- memories that will always remind her just how far she's come.
    And for sports fans, she dives into all her unfiltered thoughts on the WNBA- the good, the bad, and the ugly. From new talent like Caitlin Clark, the lack of platforms for players to tell their stories and get their flowers, and of course the future of women’s sports as a whole. JJ speaks honestly on how much she respects Caitlin's approach to the game, the women who play it and defends Caitlin specifically vs the amount of pressure she bears while trying to be herself too. Jones goes on to share what it truly means to live your truth in a world that doesn’t always understand. This episode is packed with honesty, inspiration, and the kind of wisdom only an MVP can bring! Tap in now, and be sure to subscribe to The Pivot Podcast. 
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  • "What I'm constantly trying to do is to expose people to how stuff works, and let them know that they have power and they have agency. Any person and any young man that I meet is...you have power. And the question is, how can you use it?"
    Over two years ago when we set out to start The Pivot Podcast, We wanted it to be a platform for everyone and a place where ANYONE could come have a conversation and feel comfortable. We have been grateful to have hundreds of inspiring and impactful discussions over the years sitting with athletes, champions, A-list entertainers, musicians, comedians, business leaders and now the 44th President of The United States. 
    In a groundbreaking episode of The Pivot, in partnership with Fanatics, we're honored to welcome former President Barack Obama who shares his insight, experiences, and leadership which has inspired millions around the world. We reflect back on his journey to the White House and everything in between while listening to his words on life, politics, family, and the ever-evolving landscape of sports and society. The authenticity of our conversation is powerful, as President Obama opens up with candor, humor, and wisdom, reminding us why he's not only a transformative leader but also a man who’s navigated his life’s Pivots with heart and humility.
    Ryan, Fred, and Channing open the episode chopping it up about sports with the Chicago fan. President Obama reflects on the evolution of Black quarterbacks in the NFL, noting how the game continues to adapt to the times and how instrumental it is that race doesn’t define these athletes as it once did. Obama shares how the NFL is often a mirror to society, embodying our advancements and the persistent need to challenge stereotypes. Just as the game of football has changed, he emphasizes how America has, too—but there’s still work to be done, and he challenges us all to keep pushing forward.
    We also get a rare glimpse into his personal life behind the scenes, especially the role his family has played in keeping him grounded and providing perspective. Talking about his partnership with Michelle, he acknowledges how her unwavering support allowed him to tackle the relentless demands of the presidency while still being the father and husband he dreamt. From family dinners at the White House to raising his daughters with humility, President Obama shares heartfelt insight into the blending act between family and public service and how he aimed to give his kids as “normal” a childhood as possible, even under the global spotlight.
    And with one of the most anticipated and crucial times in our country's history, Election Day is a week away on Tuesday, November 5, and the former president shares reflections on the importance of using our voice and our power, reminding us that our role as citizens is critical—whether it’s in voting or in staying informed about who’s truly looking out for our interests. Ryan asks why should people relate to his words and influence while Fred asks about the urgency of this election as a black man. President Obama’s response resonates in his message on every level as citizens, humans, family members, men and women of all races and religions setting the score of what's at stake for all of us, encouraging us to use our personal influence wisely, challenge assumptions, stay informed, and have empathy for all communities. Voting is our birthright, use it and understand we have power in our voice.
    For us at The Pivot, this was more than just an interview; more than just a conversation and more than just a guest...it's a moment in time that showcases why we love doing what we do and why certain voices carry so much weight. Let's just say, if we had a "Mt. Rushmore" wish list of Pivot guests, we now have reached one of those monuments. Please comment, like and share this conversation and let us know what you think. 
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  • "I don't really believe in failing. I believe in just lessons, you learn from it and you move on...It's I got your back you got my back mentality, and I think it''s a beautiful thing we have right now and that's why you see me slowly starting to find my groove." Saquon Barkley Eagles Running Back
    On this episode of The Pivot Podcast in partnership with Fanatics, Saquon Barkley gives a raw and personal look into his ups and downs through the NFL and life beyond the game. Pivot family, Saquon opens up to Ryan, Fred and Channing about the pressure of being in the spotlight, and how everything can be transformed into clickbait these days, shaping a narrative that doesn’t always reflect who he is-as seen with his most recent mic'd up viral moment against the NY Giants, a moment he wished stayed private but only shows more of who he really is at the core. Life in the public eye tends to be a lot, but for him, it’s all about staying focused on the bigger picture—his team, his work ethic, and staying true to himself.
    Coming off the game against his former Giants team, the Eagles star player shares how the the Boo's in NY may have caught him off guard but only fueled his motivation and how he finds strength in moving forward, believing in his talent and staying true to his core. Saquon speaks on the power of self-confidence, but also how critical it is to look outside yourself and have a strong support system of family, friends, teammates, and coaches to steady his journey.
    Despite an opportunity to break several rushing records, Saquon opted to sit out towards the end of the game to let younger guys get playing time and he reflects back on that choice sharing how he never wants a single moment to outweigh the mission and always moves with humility and a full heart. That humility was born out his family's openness to making mistakes, which gave Saquon the tools necessary to learn from his own.
    Although he was on top of the football world this week, last month, he felt the pressures of Monday football, with a missed opportunity on a play he makes 10 out of 10 times, Saquon talks about bouncing back from that and the reaction from Quarterback Jalen Hurts and the entire vibe of Philadelphia's locker room. Ryan asks about the current relationship between the team and Head Coach Nick Sirianni in which Saquon responds in a way you wouldn't expect but even more reason to appreciate his authenticity and perspective. He gets honest with the guys on how his relationship with Siriani taught him to never judge a book by its cover, and he's truly an incredible coach and great listener with an open door policy that's seriously affected his game.
    Being at the center of one of the NFL's biggest offseason sagas, Saquon takes us inside the real business of the league, where the fun of playing the game often meets the harsh reality of negotiations, contracts, and drama. He tells Ryan, Fred, and Chan his version of how the dealings in NY really played out and digging deep to find peace in his growth not to expose it all during the process but somberly shares how the reality of it can sometimes kill the spirit of the little kid in you who just wants to play the game. Saquon realizes how blessed he is to be healthy and doing what he loves as He breaks down the differences between New York and Philly- from the one thing he misses about the Giants and what he has bought into with the intensely passionate Philly fan base.
    And of course, We couldn't let him go without asking about the league's current rusher and how he views the success of his fellow running back Derrick Henry...a wholesome but true competitor's response.
    For more conversations like this, tap in every Tuesday at 12pm and on Friday's for special conversations with the world's top athletes, entertainers, leaders and a unique first person perspective on all storylines from sports to music to culture to news and more.
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  • “How different would our world be if every single person played football and grew up in a damn locker room...” Rex Ryan current ESPN Analyst and former NFL Head Coach
    We got a treat for you today...or as he would some say a God Dam Snack!
    In today's episode of The Pivot Podcast in partnership with Fanatics, former NFL head coach Rex Ryan, filling in for Fred who’s away in London, joins Channing and Ryan for a conversation we never expected to be so in-depth and captivating.
    An episode full of humor and humility, this discussion isn’t just a football fan’s dream but it’s one to tap into for anyone who’s a believer in people, overcoming struggles and fighting internal battles privately while maintaining a tough demeanor on the outside and never being afraid to go toe to toe with anyone.
    Known for his brash personality, Rex Ryan has always unapologetically been himself which comes with a lot of highs and positives but behind the walls is a story and journey we can all learn from. From growing up in Canada with his mom to dealing with bullies at school to moving with his father Buddy one of the best defensive minds in NFL history to forging his own coaching legacy to being a dad, a husband and locker room leader, Rex opens up like never-before on all the chapters of his life and the ones still unwritten…
    As the current NY Jets navigate team controversy, Rex takes us through some of the most pivotal moments for him as a man and head coach sharing never-before-heard football stories, defensive mind, motivational tactics, Hard Knocks moments and answering for some of his questionable choices. The one thing Channing wants to know is, why isn't he coaching now? An answer that may surprise you...
    Having a little fun, Ryan gets Coach to explain some crazy comments he made about Channing back during Dolphins Jets rivalries as Rex peels back the layers of a three-decade-long coaching journey, recounting the highs of taking the Jets to the playoffs and the lingering regret of never winning a Super Bowl. He breaks down his unique coaching style, as seen on Hard Knocks, and emphasizes the importance of physicality and toughness on the field. Rex also shares a personal side of his story, talking about how growing up with dyslexia influenced his creative approach to the game and his ability to problem-solve as a coach.
    Tackling some unwanted headlines over the years, Rex addresses his infamous private matters leaking publicly and doubles down on how even to this day he loves his wife's feet and isn't afraid to say it. As we wrap the episode, Ryan strikes a chord and the conversation turns emotional as Rex reflects on the pride he feels watching his son follow in his coaching footsteps, continuing the Ryan family legacy and reveals one regret that still weighs on him now.
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  • "We need the OGs. We need people like us who went through it and had the ups and downs in the game that's gonna tell you the truth..."
    This conversation is one we highly recommend as parents, athletes, coaches, those who have had the highest of highs and lowest of lows, and for people who feel they have failed at something and may have got lost in our purpose at one time and now look to forgive ourselves as we right the wrongs....We sit as men reflecting on tough times, regrets, learning from one another, accepting accountability and being able to apologize when we own up to things we could have said or done differently.
    On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, apart of Fanatics, Ryan, Channing and Fred sit with former NFL star running back, the No. 3 overall pick in 2012 and Alabama legend Trent Richardson to talk about his football journey and respond to people who look at his career as a bust as we gain understanding inside the mindset of a young athlete and what went wrong: How did the NFL go from being a dream come true to football becoming a nightmare?
    Trent shares his experiences growing up in a household with a single mother to becoming a young father at 16 while balancing being a star football player at Alabama and how it affected his NFL career. With high expectations as a player entering the league as a high draft pick and trusting people with his finances, Trent saw over $1.6M of his money unaccounted for quickly while dealing with an unguided start as a rookie. Trent was traded from Cleveland to Indianapolis without personal knowledge, only finding out on the radio and often criticized for not playing up to standards despite having decent numbers and breaking some rookie records.
    Diving into his journey, Fred, who was seen as a mentor and idolized by the young running back at one time, talks through some of the struggles and misconceptions Trent dealt with. Trent opened up on the criticisms he faced while sharing how he felt his issues stemmed from not having the right tools to succeed and discussed the personal matters he was dealing with in private while trying to get his football career on track. Ryan and Trent share a powerful moment of accountability and forgiveness as RC shares how Trent taught him a lesson in analyzing sports after making a comment about his play in a way that Ryan wouldn't do today.
    Being a good father and role model for young people today is something Trent prides himself in, admitting that having his kids is one thing that kept him going in the dark times. Opening a facility in Alabama and trying to be a voice for athletes to help them not make the same mistakes or fall into similar traps he did is Trent's mission today.
    Tap into this episode of a story filled with obstacles and struggle but one that's important we hear as we navigate our lives today and influence young people along the way. We appreciate Trent opening up and trusting us with his journey, hoping to change lives by sharing.
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  • "It's okay to start over, but it's not okay to complain about what it takes to start over." Michael Bennett Super Bowl Champion
    On this episode of The Pivot in partnership with Fanatics, we’re sitting down with Super Bowl champ and 3x Pro Bowler Michael Bennett. Building a reputation in professional sports for being unique, Bennett shares with Ryan, Channing and Fred his journey from a young man growing up in Louisiana to getting into football to his close bond with his brother to being outspoken for black men and culture to the highs and lows of winning and losing a Super Bowl....but now life looks a little different for Michael —he’s living in Hawaii with his family, traveling the world, and diving deep into architecture and design.
    But being able to start over took some time, as Michael shares with the guys how he struggled to step away from the game he loved so much but knew deep down his worry about his brain and fear to never walk his daughter down the isle pushed him to retire from the NFL and refocus his efforts differently. Michael talks about how much he loved every moment of the game, but ultimately made the selfless decision to say good bye to it so he could stay healthy knowing football was his passion but family is his purpose.
    Michael was part of some of football's toughest defensive cores in NFL history and part of building the 2013 Super Bowl Championship team in Seattle as he breaks down some of his top ranked defenses of all time and gives his thoughts on today's game. He gives his take on one of the biggest enigmas of Seattle's Super Bowl loss, which is why did Marshawn Lynch not get the ball as the game winded down with a chance to win a 2nd Super Bowl...Michael shares the inside talk of what really happened that play call and what he saw happening if Marshawn was given the ball that play.
    Considered a controversial career by some, Fred, Ryan and Channing commend him for always taking a stand on important issues and ask how Michael found the courage to stand up for black people, being in locker rooms where his outspokenness was often frowned upon by fans, the franchise and teammates. Michael explains how growing up him and his brother would receive punishments to read encyclopedias, so learning was always a key part of their lives. That intellectual curiosity shaped how he approached football, and his love for the X’s and O’s as He didn’t just want to be a great player; he wanted to study the game and master it. But his interests stretched way beyond the field which Michael became known for speaking out on important issues, from activism to social justice, never afraid to stand up for what he believed in or try to spread his message in creative ways not hostility, even writing a book, "Things that Make White People Uncomfortable".
    Since retiring from football, Michael's focused on spreading a different message: the importance of design, especially in black communities, and creating opportunities for his culture. Humanizing black men, making it okay for them to be vulnerable and emotional is one of his main goals as he explains how, as an athlete, people try to put you in a box, but for him it’s all about breaking those stereotypes. To him, intellect and emotion are just as vital as the toughness and grit it takes to make it in both the NFL and life after the game. 
    Tap in now on YouTube to watch full episode and hit Subscribe. New episodes every Tuesday at 12pm est and Friday at 3:30pm est.
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  • For so long, so many of our Pivot followers have asked when we will interview each other and share our own takes on certain personal questions we often wonder about but never have time to dig in and find out ... .so we are finally doing it!
    That’s right, on this episode of the Pivot, in partnership with Fanatics, Ryan, Fred, and Channing switch it up and dive into one another’s stories by interviewing each other, leaning into their own vulnerabilities while learning the how and why of who they are today and where they see themselves in the future. 
    The conversation kicks off with football, talking about the early youth years to how each got their big NFL break to the things they would have done differently to any regrets and how their respective teams shaped their legacy. Ryan opens up about his undrafted journey to battling Sickle Cell to winning a Super Bowl, and how those experiences furthered his "underdog mentality"—something that still fuels him today. Fred is honest about missing the game and wishing he could still play while Channing doesn't miss it at all. Channing finds it ironic that Fred feels a void because in the history books, Fred is one of the best to ever play his position. But despite Fred's legendary career, he opens up on his own struggles, through dealing with the "Fragile Freddy" stages to not yet making the Hall of Fame and the emotional toll public perception took on him. Channing gets real about the balance (or lack of) between football and everything else he did away from the game…revealing some regrets about the choices he made and how it affected his career. 
    Understanding that life always moves at a fast pace, doesn't mean we shouldn’t stop and realize the reach of our choices is far beyond the field and what we contribute each day is how we will be remembered long after we are gone. 
    On the eve of Ryan’s 45th birthday, he reflects on where he is today and the mission he tries to live out in all his life moments not wanting his Super Bowl win to be the single accomplishment everyone references with more focus on the impact he makes each day and how he’s seen for his contributions as well as how he’s viewed by the people closest to him. Ryan shares a personal story of a childhood friend recently passing away and how age is creeping up on us and that when it’s all said and done, he doesn’t want to be defined by his past or a single accomplishment but by who is today and his current mission. 
    Posing the same question to the guys, Ryan asks what the future holds for each of his co-hosts. Channing shares his vision about making the Crowder name mean something, both for his family and business, while Fred’s focus is on his kids and teaching them to be strong minded and live with integrity.
    The depth of vulnerability and authenticity displayed in the voice of Ryan, Channing and Fred is something that will resonate with all of us as we continue to Pivot through our own lives and journeys.
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  • "Everyone's looking at your glory, not your story." Wallo, podcast host of Million Dollaz Worth of Game, Author and Motivational speaker
    BIG Pivot today....The Podcast Collab of the year! In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, in partnership with Fanatics, Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down with the Philadelphia duo, Wallo and Gillie, who are trailblazers in new media, utilizing life experiences from music, the streets, life and loss to shape black culture and excellence through their various platforms and their hit podcast "Million Dollaz Worth Of Game." This is truly long overdue and much needed, bringing together our two massive platforms and five men who see life differently but all have the same goal and path forward is one of the most powerful conversations you can tap into right now.
    The conversation weaves in and out of funny moments that will have you hysterically laughing to somber moments of reflection and impact, where wisdom and game is exchanged. The authenticity of who Wallo and Gillie are at their core reigns through in everything they do as most of the conversation is joking around with their gift to take serious subjects and make light of them in order to bring awareness. Bickering on just about every wild topic, from sports to music to prison showers to the best brand of soap to which athletes party harder, and even how their own podcast started.
    Gillie and Wallo take the guys through their interactions with fans and how they believe they've managed to become such a force in both black culture and podcasting because of their relatability with other people. "We remind people of their uncles," said Gillie. Much of what we learn in life is through experiences and the value of shared information is key to growth in all areas which is something Wallo and Gillie stress to Ryan, Channing and Fred. Having powerful platforms is important but how the guys use their platforms to provide messaging and how people, young and old, see them is shaping culture and future generations.
    Talking top headlines, the guys chat about the current landscape of sports, present-day NFL, the culture surrounding today’s highly paid athletes, and the challenges that come with the game’s evolution. Gillie gives some personal advice to his beloved Philadelphia Eagles, breaking down what they need to do to win, which had all the guys heeled over laughing. Wallo, on the other hand, opens up about opportunity and writing "Armed With Good Intentions", a book detailing his journey of mistakes, mishaps and lessons from his time in prison to the invaluable lessons he learned. His story of resilience and redemption offers powerful takeaways that resonate with anyone going through tough times or feel lost in what they are doing.
    The strength of Wallo and Gillie is to have tough conversations regarding race in America, manifesting in the smallest ways with big impact, the everyday struggles of black men down to how the black experience isn't perfect but stress ways of prioritizing protection and hoping to show paths of growth and alternate approaches to success.
    The conversation wraps reflecting on everyone's journey, navigating the unforeseeable future and power in the Pivot....It's never too late to Pivot and that's a Million Dollaz Worth Of Game. New Episodes out every Tuesday at 12pm EST and Fridays 3:30pm EST. Wallo's Book, "Armed With Good Intentions" is out now and a must read!
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  • "No one had me making the Olympic team, no one definitely had me winning, and in that moment I felt I proved myself right and I proved everyone else wrong." Masai Russell
    On this episode of the Pivot Podcast in partnership with Fanatics, we sit down with Olympic gold medalist Masai Russell, who shocked the world when she took home the gold in the 100m hurdles at just 24 years old after finishing third in the Olympic qualifiers. Masai opens up to Ryan, Fred, and Channing about her journey, sharing how she pushed through the toughest mental and physical moments when quitting felt like her only option. Masai shares the mindset shift that helped her overcome the haters and self-doubt, and ultimately prove herself right- even when no one else had her making the Olympic team, let alone winning Gold in Paris. 
    The Kentucky Wildcat star is the NCAA record holder in the event, Masai has been incredibly dedicated to track and field since she was eight years old. Her passion for the sport runs deep, and she explains to the guys why her motivation has nothing to do with the money or the fame, but doing what she loves and letting the rest fall into place. The conversation is full of fun and genuine moments, giving us a glimpse into a young black woman with determination, discipline and reveals her future goals, from breaking world records to continuing to grow as an athlete and role model. But as sweet and well spoken as Masai is, don't let the cheery spirit fool you, Masai makes it clear, when it comes to competing, being a savage is all she knows.
    Humbled by the opportunities and success in her young life, Masai is grounded by her family roots and uses her life experiences to offer insight into the future of sports, college NIL deals, promoting a personal brand using TikTok- where she shows off a more playful, personal side of herself to her 744K followers as a way of connecting with fans off the track, and feels the platform is beneficial for up-and-coming athletes in the space. She also reveals the most famous person in her Instagram, fills in Channing on what the Olympic Village is really like and the "anti-sex beds" as well as other stories that will lead you to wanting to hear more and more.
    Masai ultimately wants to be the athlete role model she didn't always have growing up, and prove to the world that with hard work and the right mindset, anything is possible. Tap in to today's episode for an inside look at the next generation of Olympic athletes- if they're anything like Masai the USA is in good hands!
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  • "Someone who was always true to himself, failed, got up again, but ultimately changed the sport that gave him everything and inspired a whole new generation of kids. That to me is bigger than any medal I could ever win." - Miles Chamley-Watson
    This episode is one where we learn about a sport unfamiliar to us but one rich with history and challenges and how no matter what the competition is, the path to success is paved with dedication, discipline and a degree of mental toughness that brings out the best within us, when we least expect it.
    In partnership with Fanatics, Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down with veteran Olympic and World Champion fencer Miles Chamley-Watson as he opens up about his journey from a young athlete facing adversity to becoming a trailblazer in sports, culture and mental health as he used his own experiences and lessons to shape the success he's had in and out of athletics. Wearing armor and always a defense mode is a part of his sport, but in our conversation with Miles, he drops his sword and lets his guard down, opening up about the unlikely path into fencing, mental toughness, his effort to bring his sport to media forefront, rise to fame and how his family dynamic and recent heartache has changed his life perspective.
    Miles explains to the guys about how putting on that fencing mask for the first time made him feel like a superhero, and gave him a sense of purpose. The sport- which has been around for centuries- was something that fell into his lap as a 6’5’’ dude from a mix of the UK, New York, and Philly. Yet, he fell in love with fencing, and found it helped him manage his ADD & ADHD, giving him something to focus on. Even though he used to hide his love for the sport after getting judged for being an “unconventional” athlete, he's now all about encouraging kids to follow their own path, no matter how different it might be.
    The guys go further into the conversation exploring the personal struggles Miles has faced within fencing, which is a predominantly white sport, sharing stories on facing racism in the craft, and how those challenges have only fueled his drive to create real change and make a larger impact. Making a name for himself wasn't easy at first, but through his charisma, unique style and success, Miles' meteoric rise to the top of sports has helped put fencing on the global stage. Garnering international fame through Olympics and becoming a world champion while juggling his star-studded personal life of fashion shows, Met Gala, A-list friendships and global brand campaigns. Miles reveals advice he received from Kobe Bryant during the 2016 Olympics that changed his outlook on wins and losses and molded a mindset of having a short term memory in terms of success and failures.
    As the conversation continues, we get into more sensitive topics like family, emotions, and mental health. He talks about the importance of opening up, especially for Black men, and how he’s learned to release emotions that he bottled up for years. Sharing stories of his up-brining, bond with his mother and stepfather, reconnecting with his real father and reveals a personal matter of his sister now undergoing a serious health battle....Miles stresses importance of forgiveness and finding peace as life is too short to hold onto stress and unhappiness. He's determined to be an advocate for diversity in sports, leave a lasting impact on the sport and inspire the next generation of athletes to stay true to who they are.
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  • "There is nothing else in life I would rather be known as, or rather do, than play football. I never wanted to be alive and not have lived." Ryan Clark on the risks of playing football all his life.
    You have been asking and we finally made it happen, a conversation with just the Pivot talking about all things around the league, in life, in sports and some current hot topics that have sparked a more in-depth discussion.
    On this episode of the Pivot, in partnership with Fanatics, it's just the three guys—Ryan, Fred, and Channing—sitting down to talk about the latest in the sports world. With the NFL season kicking off, there's a been a lot to talk about, so we start it off by hitting on the headlines around the league.
    One major topic that’s been heavy on the minds of everyone in the NFL and the fanbase which always becomes more pressing when we see one of our own go down with a head injury is CTE. It’s something that’s affected our Pivot family personally, having lost people we care about to it, and it shapes how the guys see their own futures after Tua’s recent concussion and whether he will continue to play the game he loves or hang up his cleats. The guys dive into how the game always had the same risks, we just know more now than we did back then. Channing shares personal experiences and expresses his own fears with his health, while Ryan and Fred discuss the game that defined them for their entire lives and how they wouldn't change anything they did to play but also understand the unknown is scary and that new knowledge offers a different perspective but also doesn't change their love of the game. Will Tua come back this season—or ever? We dive into that, plus what it means to balance risk and living life, even when the game can leave a mark. For the guys, football is worth every hit.
    Along that topic, the news of Brett Favre’s Parkinson’s diagnosis sparked a lot of debate. It’s a tough situation, but the guys are brutally honest on not being able to ignore the welfare scheme scandal Favre was caught up in, making it hard to have sympathy for someone who stole from the poor and is now trying to get pity through his diagnosis. The timing of it all angers Channing and Ryan and they don't hold back as to why.
    Moving to College football, UNLV’s undefeated QB Matthew Sluka decided to leave the program despite his success because he didn’t get what he was promised. This new NIL system is at a critical point, and we break down the challenges of giving young athletes so much money and responsibility while minimizing the adversity of teaching moments which seems to lessen the learning curve for college players by big paydays.
    Speaking of money, Bryce Young’s situation with the Panthers came under the microscope as Andy Dalton took over the starting role this past week and led Carolina to a much needed win. The franchise paid the former No. 1 pick big bucks, but now he's benched after one season, so what’s next for him?
    And before the guys wrap the conversation, Ryan challenges Fred and Channing to think about their lives and how they approach each day, wondering if they'd change anything looking back and define goals moving forward shaping what each's "life" Mission statements would be as the guys open up and get personal, sharing their journey, the whys and experiences that shape their thoughts.
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    "Black men have feelings. Black men hurt. Black men are in pain...and sometimes we feel like we're dealing with it alone..." Cory Hardrict Actor and Producer
    On this episode of the Pivot, in partnership with Fanatics, the guys have a conversation about the ups and downs of life, dealing with trauma and changes we never expected and how to find strength in our families and passions while celebrating the wins with gratitude instead of guilt. 
    Cory Hardrict may seem like an overnight success but he's been climbing his way to the top of the box office for over two decades, he’s made a name for himself with roles in films like Never Been Kissed, American Sniper, Netflix’s Brotherly Love, and most recently, Tyler Perry’s Divorce in the Black with costar Meagan Goo. Cory prides himself in always evolving and his dedication to perfecting his craft, and committed to being a role model—not just for other actors, but also for the Black community and his own kids.
    Beyond the bright lights of Hollywood, the guys touch on some real talk—being a Black man in today’s society, toxic masculinity, and the importance of uplifting fellow Black men. Cory shares experiences about overcoming hardship, staying focused, and using his platform to inspire others...While also getting honest on his divorce and moving forward in the most positive way. 
    Cory lets his walls down and opens up to Ryan, Channing and Fred that everyone struggles from time to time and it shouldn’t be looked down upon for men, especially black men to cry, express themselves or ask for help. In a recent panel, Cory opens up on how he cried almost everyday for over a year as he adjusted to so many changes in his life from dealing with a high profile divorce from actress Tia Mowry to public misconceptions about his character to being strong for his children while focusing on his demanding career. Not shying away from the difficulties of headlines or public splits, Cory keeps it real saying he believes in unconditional love and that everything from this point on is for his kids and no room for mistakes or missteps. 
    His divorce may have kept his name in tabloids for the past 2 years but his acting career has kept him atop the box office with several star roles. Working with Meagan Good has challenged him as well as lifted him to a different tier to be seen as a character who can play any role. Despite his love for acting, Cory shares his perspective on always proving yourself as a black man in Hollywood and staying grounded. He also opens up about growing up in Chicago, losing both his brother and mother, and how those pivotal moments pushed him to build a better life for his own family.
    Tap in now for this conversation that pulls you in and makes you look at life differently with the glass half full rather than half empty. All new episodes of The Pivot release every Tuesday at 12:00pm est and Friday at 3:30pm est. 
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  • "The fact that these artists are getting their flowers, getting a chance to perform on this stage, these black artists..If it wasn't for Jay-Z, this wouldn't be happening. So how can you come down and criticize this man like that? it's beyond me." Steve Stoute sounds off on the recent Super Bowl Halftime controversry.
    Steve Stoute is the ultimate American success story. He’s worn a lot of hats—author, entrepreneur, ad exec, and most notoriously, a music mogul. For nearly three decades, he's played a pivotal role at some of the biggest music labels from Interscope, Geffen, and Sony, to working with massive names like U2 and Eminem. Ultimately he's helped shape not just hip-hop, but today's music culture as a whole and continues to find ways to bridge the gap with culture, sports, music and global reach. In this episode, in partnership with Fanatics, Stoute takes us on a wild ride through his experiences in music, advertising, and business and how valuing relationships fueled his journey to the top. 
    We had to start the conversation off and get right to it- With loud buzz around Kendrick Lamar being announced as this year’s Super Bowl Half-time Act... controversy continues to swirl around the choice and blame being put towards Jay Z, who is on of Stoute’s closest friends and business confidants. Jay, who’s been a major part of choosing the NFL’s biggest act of the year, is taking heat for selecting Kendrick over the hometown star and fan favorite Lil Wayne to headline New Orleans Super Bowl. Steve is blown away by the negativity towards Jay's choice, confused why people aren’t celebrating that Jay has made such strides for culture to be apart of a big event vs making it personal as football and music fans alike are split, and even some big-name artists, like Nicki Minaj, have weighed in with their grievances. Stoute delves into this topic with Ryan, Fred, and Chan, sharing the inside scoop on how the decision really went down, what he thinks of the backlash, and who was originally asked to perform! 
    Ryan understands this Super Bowl controversy has caused a lot of backlash and ugliness from different areas of the industry but RC says this isn’t nearly the black eye to culture that the continuous fall of P Diddy has stirred up, as more allegations are revealed and Diddy’s recent arrest landed him in jail without bail. Knowing Diddy for a long time, the guys ask Stoute to honestly speak to it all, especially the fallout and if he ever saw any signs or this coming….
    The conversation shifts to where things are heading with music, sports, culture and owning media rights as well as creation of platforms controlling the space vs the old days where networks and big companies dictated the industry. While Stoute started in an era where artists were burning their own records and signing deals with record labels to get noticed, he speaks to how the landscape has completely shifted. With social media, consumers can find an artist's music without them needing a label-- and he thinks this transition is beneficial. He's all about artists owning their craft and not "selling their souls" to big companies which is what led him to start UnitedMasters, to help creators keep control of their music, name, and likeness. Fred asks him about the recent Dame Dash situation with and how he sees it all playing out.
    Stoute’s family roots and emphasis on relationships has always played a part in his work ethic and drive to make money. Steve breaks down the lessons he learned in the early days of his career and how he was able to navigate big moves, taking chances and never settling for anything less than his goals. 
    The guys soak up the knowledge from Steve as he breaks down the music industry’s inner workings, connect music with sports, providing a front-row seat to the conversations shaping culture and give a better understanding of how key relationships have paved the way for so many to experience a new wave of success at any level. 
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  • Music has helped me through difficult situations because… it lets me get through them…if you’re going through hell why stop there?" Fabolous
    Throughout history, music has been a timeless aspect of society that connects people and has the ability to document the times through lyrics and style. Hip Hop has always connected with sports on another level as a form of expression and often celebration of athletes. On this episode of The Pivot, in partnership with Fanatics, Ryan, Channing and Fred chop it up with one of the most respected and iconic rappers from the early 2000s – Fabolous.
    Born and raised in Brooklyn, Fab reminisces about releasing his first album in 2001, and the motivation behind creating the chart topping record. To put it in perspective on how it resonated, Fab shares a story on how he saw Tom Brady this past summer and first thing Brady referred to him as is one of the original 01' boys, reiterating what Fab's music represented during that era and Fred recalls the one line that was even about him during that time.
    While Fab may be underrated to some, the guys double down on why he's one of the most respected artists of all time in hip hop and for the culture. Fab’s got six albums and over three million records sold in the U.S., but it’s not just the numbers that tell his story, it’s his experiences that have truly shaped him. Relying on OG's in the rap game, Fab always was looking to learn and take chances to get where he wanted to go. He shares some words of wisdom with the guys reflecting on his journey, talking about the rap game then vs. now, what he’s learned about himself as an artist and more importantly as a man and describes how a generational shift in hip hop is shaping today’s music scene differently.
    Fab talks about how the intersection of music and sports goes hand in hand and inspired his creativity and lyrics. He breaks down Knicks vs. Nets, plus legends like Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, and Muhammad Ali—icons who shaped his take on sports and celebrity and shares a story about his son with Steph Curry which is a lesson on opportunity and making most of every chance, an approach he lives by and credits to his music career taking off.
    With music being a whole different vibe in the early 2000's vs today’s social media-driven world, Fab opens up about how music helped him overcome tough situations and rise above negativity while discussing how accessibility influences sustainability, especially in a competitive space.
    Tap in now for a conversation that starts with music and weaves in and out of 25+ years of stories, experiences and keys to getting to the top and staying there from a legend.
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  • “You never know when your last day will come...That quote is a true testament to the little things that matter. Everyday, live it to the fullest. No matter what the outcome is, making sure everyday has a purpose and that it's fulfilled to the maximum capacity."
    Being three girl dads, we know the best parts of us are our daughters...being able to experience life as fathers and being our girls #1 supporter as they navigate life is no better experience or feeling. That opportunity is something we don't take lightly and understand the privilege it provides us that it unfortunately it has not others.
    As we head into week 2 of the NFL season, we sit down with sit down with Jackie Taylor, the daughter of NFL legend Sean Taylor, and chat about growing up without her father, what she would say to him if she had the chance to speak to him and how his legacy has shaped her own life aspirations and dreams.
    This conversation hits different as we sit with one of our brother's own and reminisce about the one-of-a-kind talent he was on the field, the man he was away from football and the father he was excited to be to Jackie before his life was cut short in 2007 during a home invasion. A first-round NFL pick for the Washington Commanders and a Pro Bowl safety, Sean was a teammate and a close friend to Ryan early in his career which he credits his bond with Sean for helping him evolve as a player in many ways. The tragic shot that took Sean's life, is a moment we will never forget as the sports world knows Sean as one of the best to ever do it while we knew Sean as family.
    Emotional and full of tears from the guys and Jackie, Ryan, Channing and Fred help Jackie navigate through the rough waters of this story as she opens up about what it’s been like carrying her father’s legacy, even though she was only 18 months old when she lost him. Jackie shares the highs and lows of growing up with that responsibility and how it shapes her journey as she is in her first year of college, honoring her father's legacy, carrying it into the next generation while forging her own path.
    This conversation brings on a lot of tears, but it also left us full of pride and inspired. We share stories, laughs, and some powerful moments as Jackie talks about her father, and shares how she recently found all his notes and playbooks from his playing days, an absolute treasure to any athlete or fan, but to Jackie it's just a peak into her dad's mindset and a way to connect with him.
    Jackie’s not just following in his footsteps—she’s blazing her own trail. She’s playing Division 1 Volleyball at University of North Carolina, after dominating the court in Florida and leading Gulliver Prep to state championships. Jackie’s on a mission to elevate women’s sports and inspire other young female athletes, and she’s determined to leave her mark on the game and hopes to find a career where she helps people and able to use her experiences to impact others.
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  • "The things that's being done in the dark will always come to shine. If you're pouring nothing but good things into yourself, you reap what you sow." Jalen Milroe Alabama Quarterback
    Last year, Jalen Milroe walked into what he thought was just another post-game meeting after a tough overtime loss to Michigan. But things took a surprising turn when legendary head coach, Nick Saban, dropped the news he was retiring. Shaking up the college football world, the young quarterback was forced to Pivot, as he took the reins of the Crimson Tide football's immediate future.
    In this episode of The Pivot, in partnership with Fanatics, Ryan, Fred, and Channing sit down with Alabama's leader to talk about his journey from a young man who only started playing football to bond with his father to being named quarterback to one of the most storied programs and a Heisman favorite this 2024 season. Standing in the shadows of Bama stars like Bryce Young, Jalen Hurts and Tua Tagovailoa, Jalen Milroe is next in line of an impressive lineage and continues to forge his own path forward, trailblazing the play-calling position into his own style and standard of excellence.
    Ryan calls Jalen out mid conversation and reminds him it's ok to be him and talk as one of the guys and doesn't have to be buttoned up in all his responses. Loosening up, the guys ask him about his infamous "LANK" mantra and the mentality of coining that phrase, "Let All Naysayers Know" as his way of quieting the critics and answering the doubt that surrounded him and his Crimson Tide teammates. The guys laugh and reflect back at that viral moment and how the phrase has taken on a life of its own, being the core of how athletes from the youth to the pros and even people in everyday life, who are tired of being questioned and doubted...
    Coming from a military family, Jalen shares how growing up with "helicopter parents" taught him the discipline and work ethic that has fueled his rise and understands there's no such thing as self-made but only self driven humans who experience true success. Recognizing the village of people through family, coaches, teammates and friends who keep him going each day, and help navigate the waters mentally and physically of being the starting quarterback for one of the winningest college football franchises. Jalen opens up on how he’s handled the pressures, the transition to a new head coach, Kalen DeBoer, what it’s like to balance the outside noise with his own high standards and why a Texas native chose to play for Alabama, simply stating it is a business decision for four years to set him up for the next 40 as he and
    Jalen keeps it real with the guys about everything: From what went through his mind after that Michigan loss last season to 2024 college football playoff hopes to NIL era of money making to his NFL Draft dreams to sharing who he is away from the field as someone who is known for avoiding "fun" but clarifies he doesn't put himself in uncertain situations because it's easy to get into trouble but hard to get out of. Jalen shares his thoughts on Alabama's newest offensive phenom, 17 year old wide-receiver Ryan Williams and what key thing he shared with Jalen that was a telling-tale of the type of player Williams wants to be and strives to be.
    Jalen also pays homage and respect to the rise of black quarterbacks in the NFL for paving the way for men like himself to continue to break barriers and have the opportunities they do. Tap in and Subscribe to The Pivot Podcast for more stories like this.
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  • "There are 32 teams right now that really believe they can win the superbowl. Yall know that number is about 6...But the fandom is what fuels this game and I love it." 
    On this episode of The Pivot in partnership with Fanatics, Football is back and so are the guys after a whirlwind of NFL training camp shows, and we are ready to dive into the new football season. After traveling from locker room to locker room and off the heels of the opener Kansas City Chiefs vs. Baltimore Ravens- Ryan, Fred, and Channing share their thoughts and predictions for the next 6 months!
    With some NFL mainstays absent from the sidelines this season, there is a lot of excitement around new faces of franchises with the league’s rise of black quarterbacks. For the first time, it's nearly a 50/50 split between black and white starting QBs and the guys discuss how this is long overdue and an exciting shift on the playing field and how the 2 kick off games featured teams with black quarterbacks. The match up between Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson didn’t disappoint and if the first game is a preview of what’s in store for the season, it’s going to be a wild one! 
    The conversation takes a turn as Ryan opens up about the unfortunate shooting of San Francisco Rookie Wide Receiver, Ricky Pearsall, as Ricky is one of RC’s son’s best friends and although he survived, Ryan and guys share their personal perspective and discuss questions surrounding the incident.
    Understanding how much can change in an instance, the guys reflect on how they want to be remembered and what kind of legacy they want to leave behind as men, husbands and fathers as they discuss the levels of growth and things they do now that they didn’t before or wish they could have done differently. Powerful words shared as vulnerability and accountability are at the core of their conversation.
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  • "I still try to be that authentic person, I think that's important for me...It makes it difficult because everything you do is under a microscope and everything you say is under a microscope..." Jason Kelce 
    As the NFL Kicks off this week, there will be some famous football faces missing on the sidelines, notably the greatest coach of all time Bill Belichick and Super Bowl Champ & future Hall of Famer Jason Kelce. 
    Although not too far from the sidelines, these guys are making the pivot into different roles this season analyzing the game they love vs competing for it week after week. But Jason shares with Ryan, Channing and Fred that he’s been pivoting his entire life, as it hasn’t always been the pageantry of fame, success and celebritism we see now. 
    In this episode of The Pivot Podcast in partnership with Fanatics, Jason reflects back on the ups and downs of his football journey, his family-first mentality, his relationship with his brother Travis, meeting his wife Kylie and how he manages to stay even-keeled in the current chaos of his life. We laugh a lot and learn even more about the man behind the jolly smile we see all the time. Hard work and success has always been core to the Kelce family, but the spotlight seems to be shining the brightest now on the family. 
    A 6th round NFL draft pick turned Super Bowl champ with a NFL career spanning 13 years including 7 Pro Bowl seasons, The former Philadelphia Eagle may be retired from football but says he’s taken on more jobs now than he’s ever had before. Preparing to work alongside Ryan for ESPN Monday Night Football Countdown each week while continuing to build his podcast empire with Travis after recently signing a deal worth over a $100M, one of the largest podcast deals done to date. 
    Growing up in Cleveland Heights, it’s sometimes hard for Jason to imagine how two brothers not just made it to the NFL but crafted a career filled with accolades and now have taken the world by storm with their brotherly bond as their personal and professional lives are captivating not just sports fans, but everyone. 
    Ryan asks Jason how he is handling it all and how escapes the limelight to find quiet for himself and with his wife and kids. Jason says staying true to who he is and not changing has helped balance out the expectations and lets us in on his secret getaway to block out the noise. Extremely grateful for the opportunities, Jason recognizes the positives that have come with the meteoric rise the past 2 years between the Super Bowl match up vs Travis, to Kylie and his mom becoming household favorites to their podcast taking off to his brother’s personal life dating Taylor Swift bringing them all under a different type of microscope. 
    The trio chat about they dynamics of Jason's relationship with Travis amongst so many big changes, from his relationship with Taylor to their business endeavors as he shares with Fred, Channing and Ryan that at the grass roots, him and Travis are very similar humans with the same core values and opens up on a few of the the traits that make them different, from pop culture tastes to footwear. Jason credits his wife Kylie for impacting him in a ways he can’t put into words and says she is the anchor, holding everything down as the waters continue to wash in new things everyday. 
    Talking football as the guys do, Jason offers a unique perspective into his own career, the Eagles, Andy Reid and on what makes Travis and Patrick Mahomes so darn special and hard to defend as the discussion of a Chiefs 3peat becomes more real as the season gets ready to kick off. And of course, Channing and Jason exchange some of their stories that make them lovable and give us all laughs. 
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