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Yesterday, we received news via Deadline about a One Tree Hill reboot coming to Netflix, with Hilarie Burton Morgan, Sophia Bush and Danneel Ackles producing the series and reprising their roles from the OG. Of course, we had to record an emergency podcast to unpack this! We chat about our complicated feelings about this. Will it do the characters justice? What about Haley? How would it continue if some of the original cast were not to return? How are they navigating the fact that He Who Shall Not Be Named will get credit? Also, we talk about how this show could potentially center on Rachel Gatina, rather than Brooke and Peyton. Let us know your thoughts on social media!
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
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We’re ready to PAR-TAY at the Scott house! In our discussion of S4E14: Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers, we unpack Dan’s motives in getting close to Lucas and Karen, Nathan’s visit to Deb in rehab and our conflicting feelings about what he says to her, Leyton’s healthy and trusting relationship, and Peyton and Brooke’s slow reconciliation. Kaitlyn swoons over Leyton’s redo of the scene from season 1…but they still get interrupted and she desperately wants them to finally have their moment! We also discuss how Haley bitch slaps Rachel (and Jeremy thinks it’s not as satisfying as it could’ve been earlier in the season!), the Shelly and Mouth sex scene, and THAT twist ending that almost feels like fan fiction.
And oh, btw we’re canceling Naley’s unborn baby. K bye.
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Content Warning: Many tears are shed during our discussion on this fan-favorite episode, S4E13: Pictures of You! We unpack all of the labels and even label ourselves as how we would’ve been seen in high school. We dissect the heck out of all the different character pairings, including how fun it is to see Haley and Skills together, why Peyton doesn’t get to share anything with depth, and why Bevin and Rachel are even included in this episode (although, we do love Bevin’s speech!). We also touch on our high school reunion, our friendship through the years, and the coincidental timing of Sophia Bush coming out as queer in real time and we discuss Brooke’s ICONIC picture!
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
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IT’S TRICKYYYYY! In our episode on S4E12: Resolve, we discuss Nathan’s strip dance to raise money, how refreshing it is to see Leyton so happy, and Brooke’s new experiences with Chase, which are so different from any other guy she’s been with before! We also unpack the Clean Teens crisis, the calculus test scandal and why the student council president (aka Brooke) is called into the meeting, Deb’s mental health crisis, and the fact that Dan is the absolute worst. We also reflect on the beauty of long television show seasons that make it possible to get extra, “filler” content.
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
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Join us as we enjoy some chicken noodle soup with extra noodle and discuss One Tree Hill S4E11: Everything in Its Right Place! We unpack the Clean Teens slut-shaming, Gigi’s breakup with Mouth (and wonder about the writing behind her character), Peyton’s fear of being left again, and Nathan’s big confession to Haley and the nuances of this storyline. We also share our frustration with Deb’s portrayal and her lack of character development and of course swoon over the Leyton scene at the very end!
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
Always and Forever is on Patreon! Join our community to gain access to our private Discord server, early episode releases, and bonus content, including our Spoiler Central mini episodes; our Drama Queens reaction podcast, Royal Review; and our movie podcast, Baker Soundstage. Visit patreon.com/alwaysothpod for more information.
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It’s an alternate reality in One Tree Hill S4E10: Songs to Love and Die By and we have very different opinions about this episode! Kaitlyn likes the episode’s structure and overall message, but Jeremy questions all the plot holes and whether another character would have worked better in Lucas’ role. Are you Team Kaitlyn or Team Jeremy?! We also discuss the heck out of Craig Sheffer’s return (yay!), Max the record store guy (ugh!), and Brooke and Peyton’s heartbreaking moment under the bridge.
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
Always and Forever is on Patreon! Join our community to gain access to our private Discord server, early episode releases, and bonus content, including our Spoiler Central mini episodes; our Drama Queens reaction podcast, Royal Review; and our movie podcast, Baker Soundstage. Visit patreon.com/alwaysothpod for more information.
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Folks, we’ve FINALLY made it to S4E9: Some You Give Away, aka the State Championship episode! We discuss Lucas’ reaction to Peyton’s confession and the extra line that was added to the scene, Brooke actually failing calculus instead of Rachel, all the campy cheerleader scenes, and our two different views about Karen taking Deb to rehab. And of course we unpack the heck out of the Ravens’ win and Lucas making the final shot, Lucas and Peyton’s epic confetti kiss, and ALL of the action in the coda!
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
Always and Forever is on Patreon! Join our community to gain access to our private Discord server, early episode releases, and bonus content, including our Spoiler Central mini episodes; our Drama Queens reaction podcast, Royal Review; and our movie podcast, Baker Soundstage. Visit patreon.com/alwaysothpod for more information.
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We may be a little unhinged in this episode on S4E8: Nothing Left to Say but Goodbye, but there is so much to unpack! We discuss if calculus is really a requirement in high school, our conflicted feelings about Dan and Karen finally making amends after all these years, and the growing divide between Brooke and Peyton, including the directing choices used with their characters in this episode. Kaitlyn shares that she’s officially over the love triangle between Lucas, Brooke, and Peyton, BUT Brooke wanting a second chance with Lucas is actually a realistic situation after a break up. Jeremy points out that Peyton has changed in how she deals with adversity. And finally, GIVE BARRY CORBIN MORE WORK! Whitey’s banquet speech gave us ALL the feels.
Watch the promo that Kaitlyn reacts to live at the 32:13 mark here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsZ-xOUy9go
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Join us for a rather loopy episode of Always and Forever (we apologize!) where we discuss ALL the icky storylines in S4E7: All These Things That I’ve Done! We continue our conversations that we’ve had all season so far…Peyton is traumatized and desperately needs therapy or support from her MIA dad, loan sharks should not take advantage of teenagers, and the fact that Mr. Chavez is a predator, but the show refuses to address it. On a lighter note, we discuss CariDee English’s guest role on OTH after winning a challenge on America’s Next Top Model, Deb’s brush with the law (funny, but also icky), the 2000s fashion trend of layering shirts, and Haley’s babysitting adventures.
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
Always and Forever is on Patreon! Join our community to gain access to our private Discord server, early episode releases, and bonus content, including our Spoiler Central mini episodes; our Drama Queens reaction podcast, Royal Review; and our movie podcast, Baker Soundstage. Check out our most recent Spoiler Central episode on Anti-Choice Narratives in One Tree Hill. Visit patreon.com/alwaysothpod for more information.
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We are coming in hot with the hot takes in our discussion of S4E6: Where Did You Sleep Last Night? First, we wonder where the heck all of Peyton’s friends are after the traumatic event in the previous episode and why therapy isn’t a critical aspect of this storyline (yes, we are a broken record!). We call out the real Derek for needing to have more empathy for Peyton, but appreciate the twist at the end with Derek secretly watching out for her. We also unpack the cringiness of the Brooke and Mr. Chavez storyline, wonder how Haley and Nathan actually exist on just one cafe job, and seriously question if people care THAT much about *high school* basketball that they actually bet on it?! And finally, Kaitlyn calls out Karen (gasp!) for her crappy advice to Haley that lacks any practical tips and furthers the anti-choice narrative already present in this season.
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
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Kaitlyn and Jeremy provide an update on their lives and on the future of the podcast.
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
Always and Forever is on Patreon! Join our community to gain access to our private Discord server, early episode releases, and bonus content, including our Spoiler Central mini episodes; our Drama Queens reaction podcast, Royal Review; and our movie podcast, Baker Soundstage. Check out our most recent Spoiler Central episode on the Top “Horror Movie” Episodes of One Tree Hill! Visit patreon.com/alwaysothpod for more information.
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Friends, buckle your seatbelts and get ready for a One Tree Hill horror show because we are discussing S4E5: I Love You But I’ve Chosen Darkness! We unpack the Psycho Derek storyline and how effective of a horror show it still is, the real Derek surprise, and Jeremy considers if the episode would have been even stronger if the WHOLE episode had horror themes, similar to what Dawson’s Creek did. Kaitlyn shares her hot take that it’s unfair that Haley tells Nathan she’s pregnant at the same time he tells her that he got a scholarship from Duke. We both wonder why the heck Haley would then go to Dan to discuss the pregnancy and Duke news?! And we also discuss Rachel’s classy response to Nathan when he tells her that Haley is preggos (YAAS girl!), the dying art of email (lol), and the Nick teacher surprise (ew). And when you're done, find out where this episode ranks in our most recent Spoiler Central episode, where we discuss the Top “Horror Movie” Episodes of One Tree Hill!
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
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It’s in the water, baby! We’re discussing One Tree Hill S4E4, “Can’t Stop This Thing We Started” aka the one where we learn that we have been gaslit into thinking Brooke (Sophia Bush) was pregnant when it was actually Haley (Bethany Joy Lenz)! It’s also when we get further confirmation that Derek (Matt Barr) has far from brotherly love for Peyton (Hilarie Burton Morgan); get introduced to Shelley (Elisabeth Harnois), the Clean Teens and some problematic anti-choice narratives; and DebRoe (Barbara Alyn Woods/Moira Kelly) continues to be on the outs. Also, Rachel (Danneel Ackles) poses for Maxim and we’re both feeling very bisexual about it (Don’t worry, we do unpack some of the problematic aspects from behind the scenes as well).
We also discuss:
The episode’s namesake, “Can’t Stop This Thing We Started” by Bryan Adams.Portrayals of addictionWhether the “pregnancy twist” works.Is Dan (Paul Johansson) complicated or just a terrible person?Lucas (Chad Michael Murray) rejoining the Ravens.Alternate portrayals of abortions and miscarriages in media (Jeremy gives shoutouts to Jane the Virgin, The Bold Type, and 90210!)Lucas’ growing suspicions of DerekBe sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
Always and Forever is on Patreon! Join our community to gain access to our private Discord server, early episode releases, and bonus content, including our spoiler-ful mini episodes; our Drama Queens reaction podcast, Royal Review; and our movie podcast, Baker Soundstage. Visit patreon.com/alwaysothpod for more information.
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Big news but keep it on the BLT! We are discussing the 69th episode of One Tree Hill! In S4E3, “Good News for People Who Love Bad News.” Everyone is really mean and annoying in this episode, especially Brooke (Sophia Bush) and Mouth (Lee Norris). As Peyton (Hilarie Burton Morgan) connects with her half brother (Matt Barr), Rachel (Danneel Ackles) reveals that she knows who is pregnant! Meanwhile, Skills (Antwon Tanner) is doing incredibly well on The Ravens despite Whitey (Barry Corbin) keeping him down!
We also discuss:
The episode’s namesake, the album “Good News for People Who Love Bad News” by Modest Mouse.The pacing being off during the beginning of this season.Is there bad blood between Haley and Peyton?A callback to the end of summer beach party, what what!?Whether Brooke ever fought for Lucas.Racism and Whitey’s sudden lack of knowledge about white supremacy.Is Skills replacing Tim?Skills being the voice of reason while Antwon Tanner gets his coins for being a series regular.Weird deleted scenes.How Dan needs to leave Karen alone.Rachel and Nathan bonding unnecessarily and — again — how this story could’ve been much better.We promise you there are episodes we like this season!Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
Always and Forever is on Patreon! Join our community to gain access to our private Discord server, early episode releases, and bonus content, including our spoiler-ful mini episodes; our Drama Queens reaction podcast, Royal Review; and our movie podcast, Baker Soundstage. Visit patreon.com/alwaysothpod for more information.
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Cooper (Michael Trucco) is alive and well…but your podcast hosts are not during their discussion of One Tree Hill S4E2, “Things I Forgot at Birth.” Listeners, we are not loving this season so far but we promise our discussion is great! As Brooke (Sophia Bush) celebrates her 18th birthday, Lucas (Chad Michael Murray) tries to win her back. Meanwhile, Dan (Paul Johansson) is rattled with guilt and Deb (Barbara Alyn Woods) is back on drugs again. Also, why does Karen (Moira Kelly) still have a crib after 17 years and what is going on with Rachel’s (Danneel Ackles) attraction to Nathan (James Lafferty)? At least Skills (Antwon Tanner) is getting more screen time.
Our totally deep analysis of the episode’s namesake “Things I Forgot at Birth,” the album by The Absentee.The fact that this is Cooper’s final episode of the series!Rachel’s Fatal Attraction-type deal with Nathan and how it would’ve been much more interesting if this was a hero worship syndrome story.The unnecessary supernatural elements.The lack of nuance in Deb’s addiction storyline (And how other shows did storylines like this better…and worse).Peyton opening up to others…but what’s up with Derek?Lucas fulfilling the Keith role for Skills.The math not mathing for Brooke’s birthday.Our best birthdays.Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
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Tree Hill is just a place somewhere in the world … maybe it’s a lot like your world. Maybe it’s nothing like it but if you look closer you might see someone like you or someone like Haley James Scott (Bethany Joy Lenz). If you’re married, a senior in high school and not sure if your husband is still alive, then I’d say your world is a lot like Haley’s. THIS IS RELATABLE! OK! We’re back with One Tree Hill S4E1: The Same Deep Water As You! In this episode, someone is pregnant; lives hang in the balance; Deb (Barbara Alyn Woods) is back on drugs; Nathan (James Lafferty) is having some serious PTSD that we’re sure the show will deal with responsibly; Brooke (Sophia Bush) breaks up with Lucas (Chad Michael Murray); Dan (Paul Johannson) is still feeling guilt; Peyton (Hilarie Burton Morgan) has a mysterious half brother; and Rachel (Danneel Ackles) and Skills (Antwon Tanner) are series regulars! Also, this all happens in one day and none of the characters seem a little tired. During our discussion, we talk about:
Jeremy’s hyperfixation on the characters being soooo tan, despite the episode taking place the same day as the third season finaleHow the show is on a new network now (“Hey, remember that time my birth mother came to town and her death traumatized me?”)Whether Lucas is a good writerJoy’s acting during the opening sceneACAB (trust us, it comes up)Brooke’s ability to move once again with zero plans on where to stayOur evolving thoughts on Brucas’ breakupWhether Skills could actually join the basketball team and get a scholarship this late in the school yearDeb and Dan’s characterization being inconsistent with last season, and how frustrated we are with Deb’s new directionBe sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
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On Sept. 23, 2003, One Tree Hill aired its pilot episode on The WB and we were introduced to rival half brothers Lucas Scott (Chad Michael Murray) and Nathan Scott (James Lafferty) as they compete for a spot on the Tree Hill High basketball team and for the affections of Peyton Sawyer (Hilarie Burton Morgan). We wanted to celebrate the occasion by returning back to the beginning. In this audio commentary, we are rewatching season one, episode one along with YOU, the listener. While listening to our podcast, make sure you have the One Tree Hill pilot episode queued up on your device. Listen to us as we count down and hit the “play” button to watch the episode together. We will then reminisce over times when OTH was trying to be 8 Mile, Moira Kelly was hiding her pregnancy, Haley (Bethany Joy Lenz) was written as a manic pixie dream girl, and the entire cast was BABIES! Plus, we lament the pilot’s lack of Brooke Davis (Sophia Bush) and Gavin DeGraw and get emotional over the sight of Keith Scott (Craig Sheffer) and Jimmy Edwards (Colin Fickes). It’s hard to believe we are celebrating the 20th anniversary of One Tree Hill! We’re so grateful this show inspired nearly two decades of conversations between us both on and off mic. And we’re even more grateful for the listeners who have stuck with us. Whether you have started listening back when this was our pandemic project in mid 2020 or if this is your first episode, THANK YOU! We couldn’t have done it without you!
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
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Take us away because we’re celebrating the 20th anniversary of Freaky Friday (2003), the iconic Disney flick starring Jamie Lee Curtis and Lindsay Lohan as a mother and daughter who swap bodies and are forced to live in each other’s shoes. Throughout their day, they have their run-ins with school bullies, interesting therapy clientele, and love interests while navigating talk show appearances, wedding rehearsal dinners and band auditions. Buckle in for this episode because it starts off with Kaitlyn and Jeremy swapping bodies, themselves! Plus, since we’re talking about a Disney movie, Jeremy tries not to use any naughty words. The results are interesting.
During our discussion of Freaky Friday (2003), we talk about:
Comparisons to the other versions of Freaky Friday, including the 1972 novel by Mary Rodgers, 1976 original film starring Barbara Harris and Jodie Foster, the 1995 made-for-TV film starring Shelley Long and Gaby Hoffmann, the 2016 stage musical starring Heidi Blickenstaff and Emma Hunton, and the 2018 Disney Channel Original Movie starring Blickenstaff and Cozi Zuehlsdorff.How the “body-swap genre” works better in TV and film vs. books, plus callbacks to memorable body-swap stories on Charmed and (of course) Buffy the Vampire Slayer.Chad Michael Murray rocking long hair.Is it ethical for Jake to date Anna? Is Jake even a student??Problematic depictions about mental health and the use of the word “crazy” in an ableist context.Racist Asian stereotypes behind Pei Pei (Rosalind Chao), Pei Pei’s mom (Lucille Soong), and the staff of the House of Chang restaurant.Surprise! The Pink Slit song, “Take Me Away,” performed by Christina Vidal is actually a cover of a song by the Australian alternative punk rock group, Lash.Justice for Christina Vidal’s one-season wonder Nickelodeon television show, Taina!Our personal experiences with “earthquakes” (note the giant air quotes!).More talk about how Gen Z doesn’t use flat sheets, for some reason.How the Stacey (Julie Gonzalo) character doesn’t really receive her comeuppance...except she does in a deleted scene that we didn’t know about until after we finished recording.Kaitlyn getting very offended seeing a teacher do a crossword puzzle in the teacher’s lounge.Jamie Lee Curtis being gender goals.This movie’s connection to the original Freaky Friday film from 1976.The Bowling for Soup cover of “...Baby One More Time,” which triggers lots of Britney Spears talk.That time Chad Michael Murray made out with Jamie Lee Curtis (Quick fact check: Jeremy incorrectly stated that the interview was with Entertainment Tonight. It was actually Busy Tonight!)Whether this movie really needed Chad Michael Murray’s character.A potential Freaky Friday 2?You can listen to the full episode by subscribing at the $5 level over at patreon.com/alwaysothpod.
We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
Listen to our previous episodes of Baker Soundstage below:
Scream (2022)
The Notebook
A Cinderella Story
John Tucker Must Die
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We're excited to announce our first official book club, where we will be chatting about Hilarie Burton Morgan's memoir, "The Rural Diaries"! In our Discord server, we will have a dedicated channel where we can share our thoughts as we read (or re-read) and it will culminate in a video chat on Thursday, Aug. 10 at 7pm EST/4pm PST/ 6pm CST/2pm UK (which means, we can say "We'll be seeing ya" and mean it literally this time!). This club, which is available exclusively to our $5 patrons, will be our first book club as a podcast (and the first book club Jeremy has EVER been in) and we are so excited to talk about all of the Love, Livestock, and Big Life Lessons Down on Mischief Farm with you! We'll be seeing ya (AND you'll be seeing us)!
Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! That’s the easiest way to support us and to help One Tree Hill fans, new and old, find us! We’re Kaitlyn Ilinitch (@MissIReads) and Jeremy Rodriguez (@RodriguezJeremy) and you can find Always and Forever on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook @alwaysothpod or email us at [email protected].
Check out our One Tree Hill season 3 Spotify playlist here: https://spoti.fi/3aRKgx2.
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We’re here, folks. It’s the end of the season that got Kaitlyn hooked on One Tree Hill and the end of the season that both of your hosts call their favorite season of the entire series. But our journey through this amazing teen drama is just beginning because S3E22, The Show Must Go On, leaves us with so many cliffhangers as Nathan (James Lafferty) and Haley (Bethany Joy Lenz) head to the altar! Will things ever be the same between Brooke (Sophia Bush), Peyton (Hilarie Burton Morgan) and Lucas (Chad Michael Murray)? Who wrote “murderer” on Dan’s (Paul Johansson) wall? Will Karen (Moira Kelly), who is now pregnant with Keith’s child, ever learn the truth about Dan? Who is pregnant? Will Rachel (Danneel Ackles) and Cooper (Michael Trucco) survive from their limo dropping into the water? Will Nathan? Will Deb (Barbara Alyn Woods) ever stop being so freaking iconic?? Just kidding. We know Deb will always be iconic. So we can rest easy knowing that she will continue being fabulous after confessing to attempted murder.
The episode title’s connection to its namesake, Queen’s “The Show Must Go On,” including how it chronicles Freddie Mercury’s efforts to continue performing as he was dying. Plus, the title may have been a subtle message to send network executives.Give Sophia Bush an Emmy, already!The full-circle moment from the third season premiere (Please forgive Jeremy for only mentioning Ellie and Keith as the only deaths in season 3, and completely forgetting about Jimmy!)Myspace memories. Gen Z, for those who don’t know, Myspace was a website like Twitter and Facebook, but fun.Our evolving feelings on Brucas, including a shocking confession from Jeremy and a connection to Taylor Swift’s “Out of the Woods” from Kaitlyn.Brooke’s (some deserved, some not) pettiness toward Peyton.Does Brooke really love Lucas?Deb’s iconic version of “Tell Cersei. I want her to know it was me.”Why did Karen tell Dan she was pregnant?The use of The Snow Patrol song, “Chasing Cars,” and how music supervisor Lindsay Wolfington secured it for this episode before the song’s actual release.How safe we feel with Naley right now (also how in the heck did they afford this wedding!?)How Gavin DeGraw’s “More Than Anyone” was selected by viewers to be Nathan and Haley’s first dance song.The fallout from Cooper and Rachel.The iconic CODA featuring the Led Zeppelin song, “Babe I'm Gonna Leave You,” and a brief history of the band’s reluctance to license its songs out for TV and filmWe may not be returning until September for season four but we couldn’t wait that long to watch S4E1, "The Same Deep Water As You"! On Sunday, June 4 at 2pm EST, we will be hosting a live watch of the episode in our Discord server for our patrons at the $2 level and above! Click here for more information on how to join us and other listeners as we chat about all of the cliffhanger resolutions and so much more!
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