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In Part 2, the focus shifts to how Rebecca helps others through turning points—especially people who are accomplished, capable, and a little too comfortable. She challenges leaders to imagine the future before chasing it, unpacks how midlife isn’t a crisis but a creative window, and talks through what momentum really looks like when you’re not sure what to do next.
Draw the Future – “You can’t walk toward what you haven’t pictured.” Why strategy starts with sketching, not spreadsheets.
Elastic Leadership – A stretched mind stays strong. A stuck one snaps. How to find your own tension point—and work with it.
Rebecca's book: Elastic - Stretch without snapping or snapping back
Midlife Isn’t the End of the Book – It might be the best chapter. Rebecca reframes age as a lever, not a limitation.
Momentum Beats Motivation – Motivation is moody. Momentum is movement. Here’s how to find it again.
Parenting, Coaching & Boundaries – Why coaching your kids is a terrible idea—but letting them crash your book club isn’t.
This isn’t an episode about reinvention theory. It’s about what to do when you’ve stopped moving—and how to start again, without blowing everything up.
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Rebecca Sutherns didn’t set out to become a solo strategy coach. She trained for a global career, then paused it to raise four kids, said yes to client work when she could find a babysitter, and ended up building a 27-year practice on her own terms. In Part 1, she walks us through the pivots and trade-offs that shaped her work—not from a five-year plan, but from being fully in the moment.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
When the Global Plan Hit Pause – How a promising career in international development took a backseat to malaria pills, pregnancy, and timing.
The Business Started by Saying Yes – “If I liked the people and could sort childcare, I did the job.” No vision board, just real life.
The Accidental Mentor – A conversation in Australia flipped how she charged—and earned her five times more.
Why She Didn’t Scale – Rebecca explains why staying solo wasn’t a fallback, but a deliberate choice to stay agile and human.
Reinvention in Real Time – Every few years, she didn’t change jobs. She changed her lens.
If your resume doesn’t make sense on paper, Rebecca’s story will remind you: maybe it’s not the paper that needs fixing.
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What happens when a sociology major dabbles in accounting, dips into venture capital, and then rewrites her script—literally? You get Jean Zhou. Now a filmmaker and CEO of Wind Entertainment, Jean’s career plotline includes more genre shifts than a Netflix queue. She traded spreadsheets for screenplays and hasn’t looked back since.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Creating Stories: Founding Wind Entertainment
“In 2019, I founded Wind Entertainment. Initially, we incubated writers and even won several Best Novel Awards. By 2020, we ventured into drama series, writing our first script, The Starry Love. It aired on four TV stations in China and was distributed to over 30 countries.”
Sociology: A Bridge Between Business and Humanity
“Sociology opened my worldview and helped me understand people better. Ultimately, the business world is about relationships—between people and people. Sociology gave me insights into the social mind and thoughts, which help decode the essence of business.”
The Seeds of a Producer’s Journey
“As a child, I had to go to bed at 9 p.m., even though TV programming continued until 10. That early frustration planted the idea in my mind—one day, I’d take control of storytelling. Fast forward to 2018, when I watched the TV series Ashes of Love and realized it was the most incredible thing to create a project like that. I decided it was something I had to try, at least once in my life.”
The Limitations of AI in Screenwriting
“While AI brings efficiency, its impact on screenwriting remains minimal. Scripts are tailored works of art, built to surpass expectations. AI, by contrast, is a summary of past material, often resembling a Wikipedia outline. Such drafts lack the depth and creativity necessary for a fully developed script that would appeal to buyers.”
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Part Three.
If change were a sport, Colin Savage would have a trophy room. He’s worked in 70+ countries, lived in 7, and reinvented himself more times than most of us change our passwords.
In this episode, Colin calls out lifelong learning as passé and introduces his take: skill stacking. Plus, we get into why having a personal AI strategy might be just as important as having a LinkedIn profile. Buckle up—Colin’s not slowing down, and neither should you.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Skill Stacking: Building the Professional Toolkit
“Skill stacking, by contrast, is about curating abilities that complement one another professionally. It’s not about learning everything, but about combining practical skills—like emotional intelligence and technical expertise—to tackle complex challenges with a well-rounded approach.”
AI as a Symphony, Not a Solo
“The real power of AI lies in its harmony with other tools and disciplines. No single tool can address every need, but by leveraging the strengths of multiple technologies in concert, professionals can tackle challenges faster, smarter, and more effectively.”
Cheating AI? The Consequences Are Real
“From students to professionals, relying on AI without human effort leads to steep penalties. A student might fail, a professional might face fraud charges. The higher the stakes, the more critical it is to leverage—not outsource—human intelligence.”
From Problem-Solving to Value Creation
“AI isn’t just a tool for fixing problems—it’s a way to grow and extend what’s already working. By pairing the strengths of people and machines, businesses can unlock untapped potential and deliver results that weren’t possible before.
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Part Two.
If change were a sport, Colin Savage would have a trophy room. He’s worked in 70+ countries, lived in 7, and reinvented himself more times than most of us change our passwords.
In this episode, Colin calls out lifelong learning as passé and introduces his take: skill stacking. Plus, we get into why having a personal AI strategy might be just as important as having a LinkedIn profile. Buckle up—Colin’s not slowing down, and neither should you.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Kung Fu Panda Approach to Change
“Wise, measured, and reflective—the best change leaders channel their inner ‘Kung Fu Panda turtle.’ Fewer words, deeper thought, and a collective approach to charting the path forward. Because real insight comes when you listen more than you speak.”
Why Collective Decisions Matter
“Making life-altering changes isn’t a solo act. Consulting with those affected—be it family, colleagues, or friends—adds invaluable perspectives. Ignoring this step risks blind spots and unanticipated challenges that could have been addressed earlier.”
Lifelong Learning: The Good, the Bad, and the Outdated
“While lifelong learning emphasizes constant self-improvement, it often lacks focus. Simply chasing degrees, certifications, or skills without purpose can lead to a disjointed portfolio of knowledge. The real magic happens when learning is intentional and builds toward expertise.”
Skill Stacking as a Career Superpower
“Focused learning that combines seemingly unrelated skills can redefine your career trajectory. It’s not just about learning for the sake of it—it’s about intentionally connecting knowledge areas to create a broader, more adaptable toolkit for the future.”
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Part One.
If change were a sport, Colin Savage would have a trophy room. He’s worked in 70+ countries, lived in 7, and reinvented himself more times than most of us change our passwords.
In this episode, Colin calls out lifelong learning as passé and introduces his take: skill stacking. Plus, we get into why having a personal AI strategy might be just as important as having a LinkedIn profile. Buckle up—Colin’s not slowing down, and neither should you.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Chasing Novelty vs. Finding Purpose
“It’s easy to leap into new opportunities just because they look exciting. But what’s the endgame? Without a deeper reason or plan, chasing novelty can leave you with unfinished experiences and a string of ‘almost-there’ moments. Purpose turns adventures into meaningful chapters.”
Addicted to Change: Thrill or Trap?
“Addiction to novelty isn’t inherently bad—it pushes boundaries and opens up opportunities. But unbridled chasing without reflection or completion risks shallow experiences. The key? Balancing the thrill of change with the discipline to extract value from every leap.”
Change as a Tool, Not a Fix
“Change for the sake of novelty often leads to dissatisfaction. Instead, approach change as a tool for growth, not a quick fix. Thoughtfully evaluate your motives, assess your readiness, and embrace change as a means to align with your purpose—not as an escape from discomfort.”
Japan: A Surprising Example of Measured Change
“Even in traditionally conservative cultures, like Japan’s life insurance industry, meaningful change can thrive. Success here came not from disruption but from careful planning, patience, and conversations that built consensus. Change, when handled thoughtfully, can flourish even in the most traditional environments.”
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Erica Sosna knows about career change—but 2022 brought a plot twist even she didn’t plan for.
A life-altering accident left her paralyzed, and suddenly her to-do list included “relearn walking” and “rebuild everything.” Now, she’s back—walking, thriving, and reminding us that bouncing back takes more than pep talks—it takes grit, grace, and a stubborn refusal to stay down. Part One.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Speaking the Same Career Language: The Foundation of The Career Equation
“The Career Equation is designed to create a common understanding between employers and employees around career development, much like having a shared accounting system. Without it, career conversations risk inconsistency and lack of clarity, but with it, we can truly align aspirations and strategies.”
Building Career Conversations with Four Simple Components
“The Career Equation focuses on four key insights: understanding strengths, uncovering passions, measuring success, and aligning with optimal work environments. These components create a common ground, enabling both employer and employee to understand what’s needed to thrive.”
Insatiable Curiosity: Embracing Unconventional Paths to Healing
"An insatiable thirst for novelty keeps me exploring, whether it’s acupuncture, microcurrent therapy, or spine-specific chiropractic techniques. I’ve discovered that healing requires openness to new possibilities, even when they fall outside the traditional model.”
The Right Environment: The Crucial Factor for Success
“From workspace to team dynamics, the environment is essential to performance. Knowing where a person does their best work and making adjustments as needed creates a space where strengths can flourish.”
Visualizing the Outcome: A Plan Begins with the End in Mind
“I start by envisioning the experiences I want—whether it’s dancing, running, or picking up my child—then map out the steps that would lead me there. By framing it with vivid goals, I find clarity and purpose in the smallest daily actions.”
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Erica Sosna knows about career change—but 2022 brought a plot twist even she didn’t plan for.
A life-altering accident left her paralyzed, and suddenly her to-do list included “relearn walking” and “rebuild everything.” Now, she’s back—walking, thriving, and reminding us that bouncing back takes more than pep talks—it takes grit, grace, and a stubborn refusal to stay down. Part One.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Two Jobs, Two Failures: A Gut Check Moment
“After two roles that didn’t work out as planned, I hit a crossroads. I took a step back and asked: am I in the right place? I needed to rethink my priorities, work style, and the kind of organization that would truly support me.”
The School of Hard Knocks: Rejections and Redirections
“Returning to the corporate world after running my own social enterprise was unexpectedly tough. My CV was different, unconventional, and people didn’t trust me to hold down a job. It took resilience to find an organization that valued my unique experience.”
Shifting Gears: When Your Work Becomes Your Solace
“Returning to my consultancy after a year’s absence was grounding. My work has always been my passion, but after such a physically uncontrollable experience, the familiar structure felt like a comfort. It also became a chance to rethink: How could I reach more people, make a bigger impact? And so, the podcast was born.”
A Balancing Act: Rediscovering Purpose in a Three-Day Week
"Managing a business on a three-day week, while also recovering from a spinal cord injury and parenting, meant redefining success. I’ve refocused on what truly matters, aligning my time with my gifts and refining how I reach people. It’s been a balance of impact and sustainability.”
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Part Two. Joy, but make it scalable.
After opening up about grief, growth, and career pivots in Part One, Rahshea Cardiff is back—this time to talk about the business side of happiness. As VP of Partnerships at Happy Companies, she’s building tech-driven tools that actually help humans (imagine that!). From burnout prevention to culture repair, this episode explores her vision for making workplaces feel a little less like work.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Unbecoming to Become: Shedding What Isn’t You
"Maybe it’s not about becoming anything. Maybe it’s about unbecoming everything that isn’t who you really are."
The Power of Staying True to Yourself
“I was told I needed to change who I was… to fit into somebody’s picture of what they thought I should be. Instead, I learned to step into who I am and be proud of it.”
Unlocking a Team’s Full Potential through Behavioral Insights
“With Happy, leaders get a snapshot of every team member—how they’re wired, their strengths, their energy drivers, and what drains them.”
Putting a Personalized Coach at Every Leader’s Fingertips
“Happy’s platform essentially puts a one-on-one coach at the fingertips of every leader and employee, including self-coaching to improve communication and motivation.”
Human Stories and Tech-Driven Scalability: A Perfect Balance
“Technology is terrific for us at Happy; it provides the behavioral insight, but it’s that human coach who can tell the story, make it personal, and take it to the next level of impact.”
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Part One. Joy at work? Sounds suspicious. But Rahshea Cardiff is making it happen.
As VP of Partnerships at Happy Companies and a corporate veteran of Microsoft, Starbucks, and Best Buy, Rahshea has serious street cred. But her story isn’t just about big names—it’s about big life lessons.
In this episode, she gets real about love, loss, and career reinvention—plus why she believes your workplace should feel a little less like a chore and a lot more like a choice. Join us as she shares how her personal journey brought her to a company with “happy” in its name—and how she plans to make that more than just branding.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Conditioned Ambition: The Corporate Ladder Wasn’t the Life I Wanted
“As we’re growing up, we go to school, we get good grades, we go to college, we get married, buy a house. Climb the corporate ladder—it’s what we’re taught, what we see. But in 2016, everything shifted—I realized I was chasing something that no longer felt right."
Loss and Legacy: Realizing We’re Not Promised Tomorrow
“Losing my mother and going through a divorce within a year taught me that we all fall into this trap of thinking there’s always tomorrow. I began asking myself, ‘If today were my last day, would I be at peace with how I spent it?’ Too many times, the answer was no. I knew it was time to recalibrate.”
Choosing Purpose Over Position
“I walked away from corporate stability and took a leap into entrepreneurship. And now, working with Happy, I’m able to stay close to my family and focus on meaningful work that aligns with my values.”
The Gift of Presence: Living in the Moment
“When we are able to shift our mindset and perspective to live in the present, it really is such a gift.”
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Most people scroll through LinkedIn to procrastinate. Alison Stewart used it to land her next big thing.
In Part One of this two-part series, Alison shared how she left her comfy finance job mid-pandemic to join a 16-person startup she found—wait for it—through networking online. Today, we dig into Overalls, the startup that thinks your benefits should actually benefit you. Novel, right?
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Building a Village for Every Stage of Life
“Overalls is essentially your village… supporting you through life’s messier, more complex situations, like helping an elderly parent or finding summer camps for kids.”
A Rare Benefit That Earns Employee Appreciation
“This is one of the first times HR is getting thanked by employees for a benefit… they’re amazed at how thankful employees are for the support.”
Confidence in Uncharted Territory
“The biggest challenge was… do I have the skill set to do these things? Am I qualified to make some of these decisions?… In this environment, it’s all core because again, if you’re not doing it, it’s not getting done.”
Keep Your Goals in Sight: Write Them Down
“We can get distracted… By writing it down, being honest with ourselves, talking to others, that’ll help us hold ourselves accountable to what it is that we’re looking for.”
The Power of Focus and Manifesting the Right Move
“I wasn’t reaching out to a million people… I was focused, determined to put the time and energy in. My excitement led me to take a risk, and it worked.
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Most people scroll through LinkedIn to procrastinate. Alison Stewart used it to land her next big thing.
In Part One of this two-part series, Alison shares how she left her comfy finance job mid-pandemic to join a 16-person startup she found—wait for it—through networking online. We talk about career pivots, gut instincts, and how she slid into her co-founder’s inbox like a pro. Tomorrow, we dig into Overalls, the startup that thinks your benefits should actually benefit you. Novel, right?
Key Highlights of Our Interview:"What Am I Doing?” – Hitting Pause on the Corporate Grind
“During the pandemic, time started blending together. I had to stop and ask, what am I doing? Am I happy?” Those months at home made me realize how I’d been running on autopilot, stuck in a cycle of new leadership teams and constant resets. With every change, it felt like we were taking ten steps back just to make one forward."
“The Safety Net of a Strong Company” – Navigating Stability vs. Fulfillment
“You can get caught up in…having a strong company, great group of colleagues…new opportunities coming at you. But it might not be what truly motivates you.”
“Controlling for Risk Factors” – Making Thoughtful Career Moves
“I was trying to control for those risk factors, or at least account for them…what was I comfortable with? How would it impact my family?”
“Overalls Caught My Eye” – The Power of an Unexpected Spark
“I was sitting at work…reading about the launch of Overalls, and I got really excited. People almost stopped me, saying, ‘Allison, nothing gives you as much excitement as this opportunity."
“Taking Skills Beyond Insurance” – Exploring New Industries on LinkedIn
“I was interested in exploring something outside the insurance industry…how does my experience, how do my skills translate, and how do I communicate them effectively?”
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If your brain just short-circuited at the phrase “Brain Summit at the Super Bowl,” you’re not alone.
In Part 2, Nicole dives into the backstory of Generosity WINS, the book she co-authored with Monty Wood—and how they turned a business idea into a human story with real voices, a fictional lead, and zero fluff. Spoiler: there’s a QR code in the book that leads you to the actual humans behind the wisdom.
This episode is part research, part heart, and all human. If you’ve ever doubted whether generosity can be a strategy, Nicole will change your mind.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
ROI of Generosity? – “You can’t measure karma with a spreadsheet.” But Nicole explains why generosity still pays back—in time, trust, and unexpected career breaks.
Behind the Book – How a business fable with real people became a new kind of leadership playbook.
Meet Emily (She’s Fictional) – Why a made-up hotel manager ties it all together, and what hospitality has to do with generosity.
Can You Teach Generosity? – Nicole’s answer will surprise you—and it involves boys’ schools and grief.
The Brain Summit at the Super Bowl – Concussions, jazz, neuroscience, and 5,000 of their “closest friends”—how Nicole built a brain health movement in America’s loudest weekend.
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You don’t earn the title “Dr.” and then co-author a book about kindness by sticking to a script.
In Part 1, Nicole F. Roberts—Doctor of Public Health, neuroscience nerd, and co-author of Generosity WINS—takes us through her very non-linearjourney. From failed chemistry dreams to starting a human rights firm during her PhD “break,” Nicole’s path proves that detours can be more meaningful than the original plan.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Chemistry Flop That Sparked a New Career – “I realized I was terrible at chemistry… and didn’t want to spend life writing prescriptions.”
From Neuroscience to Public Policy to Public Health – The career pivot map that should be framed as modern art.
A Six-Month Break That Turned Into Six Years – “My dissertation chair died. I got divorced. So I started a human rights firm.” (As one does.)
Why Policy ≠ Change – “Policy is great—until politics gets involved. I needed to see the change I wanted to make.”
Finding Her Real Voice – How lived experience reshaped her doctoral research and her purpose.
If you’ve ever hit pause on your career, doubted your direction, or rerouted your GPS mid-PhD—this episode is proof it’s not the end. It might be the best part.
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What happens when a political insider, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, and a bestselling author walk into a podcast? You get Deborah Perry Piscione. She’s gone from shaping policy in Washington, D.C., to writing Employment is Dead, and she’s here to unpack why work as we know it is crumbling.
Traditional employment is on life support, and Deborah Perry Piscione is here to explain why. In Part 2 of this two-part series, she breaks down the radical shift in how we work, hire, and learn—plus what it means for companies that refuse to adapt.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Future of Learning – “My son skipped college, built a six-figure business at 15, and spent a year in Antarctica learning survival skills. That kind of real-world experience? You can’t teach that in a classroom.” Why degrees are losing their grip, and how alternative education paths are creating a new kind of talent pipeline.
Employment is Dead? – “No, I’m not saying people should sit in their parents’ basement playing video games. I’m saying we don’t have to tolerate outdated, soul-crushing jobs anymore.” Deborah sets the record straight on the book’s provocative title.
What Companies Must Do Now – “One person can now do the job of three or four. So what happens to the others? If companies don’t plan for that, they’ll lose their best people before they even see it coming.” Why leaders need to rethink how they train, retain, and engage talent before AI and Web3 force their hand.
Work3 and the New Rules of Employment – “We built the Work3 Institute to help companies move forward before they get left behind. The question isn’t ‘Will work change?’ It’s ‘Are you ready for it?’” How Deborah and Josh Drean are guiding businesses through the transformation.
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What happens when a political insider, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, and a bestselling author walk into a podcast? You get Deborah Perry Piscione. She’s gone from shaping policy in Washington, D.C., to writing Employment is Dead, and she’s here to unpack why work as we know it is crumbling.
In Part 1 of this two-part series, Deborah takes us on a wild career ride—working in the White House, pivoting to Silicon Valley, and learning that fear and division drive politics, but collaboration fuels innovation. She shares how a single conversation at a Starbucks led to her first venture funding (yes, really), why failing fast is a non-negotiable skill, and how risk-taking has shaped her entrepreneurial journey.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Capitol Hill to Silicon Valley – “In D.C., I learned how to divide people. In Silicon Valley, I learned how to bring them together.” Deborah reflects on her 18 years in Washington and how moving west flipped her worldview on work, collaboration, and success.
The Starbucks Moment – “I was in line at Starbucks when a stranger asked, ‘How can I help you?’ Three weeks later, I was sitting with a top venture capitalist who said, ‘I like you. Figure out something to do. I’ll fund you.’” Deborah’s introduction to Silicon Valley’s pay-it-forward culture changed everything.
Entrepreneurial Instincts – “Most of my companies weren’t grand plans—I just saw a problem and built a solution.”From launching a networking platform for women in venture capital to creating a sweat-proof undershirt on a speaking tour, Deborah proves that the best businesses start with simple observations.
Work is Changing—Are You? – “We’re moving into a bifurcated workforce—traditional employment will still exist, but the smartest workers are creating their own playbook.” Why the old career paths are fading, and how the next generation is redefining success.
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Part Three of a 3-part series on Josh Drean. Josh has worn many hats—Harvard MBA, psychology grad, co-founder of Work3 Institute and now, co-author of Employment is Dead (Harvard Business Review Press).
We’re kicking off 2025 with a bang—by declaring employment dead. Yes, you read that right. Josh Drean is here to dismantle the traditional job market, toss outdated HR policies into the digital abyss, and redefine what it means to work in the modern world.
In the Part 1 of a three-part series with Josh, where we dig into why the corporate world’s obsession with employee engagement surveys is as effective as asking your toaster for career advice. Spoiler alert: Most companies don’t actually want honest feedback from employees.
Today's Part 3, where we take the conversation even deeper into the new rules of work.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Degrees vs. skills: The battle for relevance – If Josh and Vince, proud Ivy League grads, are questioning the value of degrees, maybe it’s time we all did.
Web3, DAOs, and the digital workplace revolution – Why the next wave of companies won’t have middle managers breathing down your neck.
What happens to companies that don’t adapt? – Hint: They’ll struggle to attract Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and anyone who doesn’t dream of a soul-sucking 9-to-5.
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Part Two of a 3-part series on Josh Drean. Josh has worn many hats—Harvard MBA, psychology grad, co-founder of Work3 Institute and now, co-author of Employment is Dead (Harvard Business Review Press).
In the Part 1 of a three-part series with Josh, we dug into why the corporate world’s obsession with employee engagement surveys is as effective as asking your toaster for career advice. Spoiler alert: Most companies don’t actually want honest feedback from employees.
Here in Part 2, where look deep into the book's journey: how did this provocative and ambitious book come about in the very first place?
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
A Book Born from a Cold Call
“I know this sounds completely random, but do you want to write a book together?” That’s how co-author Deborah Perry Piscione kickstarted Employment is Dead. One unexpected call, a bold idea, and a title sticky enough to catch Harvard Business Review’s attention.
The Slow Reality of Publishing in a Fast-Changing World
“Can you imagine writing a chapter about a year ago and then having it publish a year later? It’s outdated week to week almost.” While AI and Web3 reshape the workforce at lightning speed, traditional publishing still takes years. To bridge the gap, Josh turned to TikTok, LinkedIn, and YouTube—engaging with audiences in real-time while waiting for the book’s release.
A 120-Page Proposal and a Bidding War
“Before we knew it, we had 120 pages of this proposal, which was much too long.” What started as an overstuffed pitch ended in a bidding war among publishers. The reason? Josh and Deborah weren’t just talking about changing work culture—they were exposing how outdated employment structures hold workers back.
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Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.
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Part One of a 3-part series on Josh Drean. Josh has worn many hats—Harvard MBA, psychology grad, co-founder of Work3 Institute and now, co-author of Employment is Dead (Harvard Business Review Press).
We’re kicking off 2025 with a bang—by declaring employment dead. Yes, you read that right. Josh Drean is here to dismantle the traditional job market, toss outdated HR policies into the digital abyss, and redefine what it means to work in the modern world.
This is Part 1 of a three-part series with Josh, where we dig into why the corporate world’s obsession with employee engagement surveys is as effective as asking your toaster for career advice. Spoiler alert: Most companies don’t actually want honest feedback from employees.
Stay tuned for Part 2, where we take the conversation even deeper into the new rules of work.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Why “people are our greatest asset” is corporate gaslighting – If people were really assets, why are they still an expense on the balance sheet?
The future is flexible, but companies are stuck in the past – Why forcing employees back to the office is like making them commute to a typewriter factory.
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Josh Drean_________________________
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.
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Chris Hare usually helps execs polish their pitches—but now he’s in the hot seat. In this three-part series, we flip the script and unpack the art (and occasional chaos) of storytelling.
• Part 1 dives into the world of corporate storytelling—what works, what bombs, and how to not sound like a robot in a boardroom.
• Part 2 gets personal—Chris shares stories that shaped him, including a few that left lasting impressions (for better or worse).
• Part 3 puts theory into practice—Chris hands us the tools to craft our own stories, and I test them out… possibly with tissues nearby.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Power of a Reflective Movie Theater Exercise
“I have people visualize that movie that plays is actually not the blockbuster. It’s actually your life playing and your career…What might you call that movie?”
Beyond the Corporate 360: Finding Stories That Matter
“This is not the 360 that many of us from corporate America are used to…the goal here is to go and talk to three to five people who know you, care about you, and want you to succeed.”
Feedback as a Double-Edged Sword
“People could give feedback that might reinforce the wrong narrative…we just have to be careful and think about them as inputs, not absolute truths.”
The Weight of Opinions and Invisible Biases
“We unknowingly put more weight on some people’s opinions than others…whether it’s because of the friendship, the level of friendship, or the position they have.”
Rewriting Stories with Every Interaction
“I’m never telling the same story twice. I’m rewriting the story as I’m telling you based on your face, your facial expressions, your body language, your tone of voice. There are all those factors that play into it that make it incredibly complex.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Chris Hare______________________
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.
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