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In the season 2 finale, producer Matty joins Joe and Leo to ask another round of questions submitted by you, the listeners! Thank you for listening to Deep Cover: The Real Donnie Brasco and be sure to follow us on social media for updates on season 3!
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:06:52 - Fan Questions
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This week we’re getting a visit from Joe’s friend from the north, Eric from Montreal Canada. As a former detective with the Montreal Police Department, Eric has a resume as long as the rap sheets of some of the criminals he put away. The two former colleagues share with Leo about the cases they worked together, and about the connection the mafia had between the states and our neighbors from the north.
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:51 - Interview with Eric from Canada
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Go inside the mind of a criminal. This week Joe and Leo are joined by criminal psychiatrist and Joe’s old colleague, Dr. Frank, to take a deep dive into how the mind of a killer works. Listen as they talk about the differences between the mentality of a mafioso and a serial killer, as well as Dr. Frank’s history working with Joe in the FBI.
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:54 - Dr. Frank
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Just when we thought Joe was done with the FBI he decides to give it another shot. But before he can be reinstated he must go through what all rookies go through- training at the FBI Academy. He talks with Leo about his decision to go back to the bureau and the training process that he had to go through to once again become Special Agent Joe Pistone.
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:09:32 - Joe is reinstated
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Never before heard tapes! The year is 1978 as we listen to original recorded conversations between Joe “Donnie Brasco” Pistone, infamous Lefty “Two Guns” Ruggiero and another undercover agent known on the street as “Tony Conte”. Leo and Joe break down what they hear and analyze what is really being said all those years ago.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:16 - ‘Lefty’ Tape
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After years of unwarranted harassment from his superior, Joe finally had enough. He tells Leo about the incident that finally pushed him over the edge. In one final confrontation with his special agent in charge, Joe quit the FBI just a few years short of his 20-year mark.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:06:48 - Joe Quits the FBI
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This week Joe begins to shut the door on his career with the FBI. He walks Leo through the years of harassment and unnecessary heat he faced at his assigned field office from his Special Agent in Charge. From calling his wife to check on his whereabouts to attempting to interrupt his time to testify in the Commission trial, the constant, insufferable behavior that Joe faced finally pushed him over the edge. We also get a look at some of his undercover work with never-before-heard tapes of a conversation he had with Sonny Black.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:22:20 - Sonny Black Tapes
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This week Leo and Joe dive into the Hollywood scene. The two give behind the scenes insight on the set of Leo’s new hit show, Graves End. We also hear stories from Joe’s time with some of the “Hollywood Elite,” including the times he met Dice Clay and Sid Rosenberg. Plus, Joe drops a bombshell change of heart regarding the notorious gangster Sammy “The Bull” Gravano.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:30:22 - A Million Dollar Question
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This week Leo and Joe are joined by former member of the Colombo Crime Family, Michael Franzese. Being a gangster is one hell of a life to live. Michael, Joe and Leo discuss the ugly truth about what being a made guy can do to your life, and how for some getting out is a hard thing to do. Michael tells the guys some stories about life after prison, The Mafia and about his last couple sit-downs with Sammy “The Bull” Gravano.
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:48 - Interview with Michael Franzese
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This week Joe and Leo discuss The Maxi Trial in Palermo, Sicily. The case was against the Sicilian Mafia, and, boy, were those some mean, cold-hearted gangsters. The Sicilians had their own murderous ways of doing things, and unlike their American counterparts, nobody’s life was off-limits. The New York Mafia was also no stranger to taking action against those that crossed them, actions like putting a contract out on Joe’s life.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:07 - How the Wise Guys Get Their Nickname
00:07:06 - The Maxi Trial
00:13:30 - The Contract
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If there’s one thing you never want to do it’s cross a mob boss. Joe talks to us about what happened to the acting boss of the Bonanno Crime Family, Carmine Galante, when he decided to defy The Commission. Leo learns a lesson of his own when Joe let’s him in on what makes a good deep cover agent, and why he probably wouldn't make the cut. What happens when two FBI agents walk into a Russian dacha? The answer might surprise you.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:07 - Deep Cover Debrief
00:06:38 - Art of Deep Cover
00:07:51 - The Russian Dacha
00:17:02 - Don’t Cross a Boss
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The case is finally closed and it’s time for Joe Pistone, a.k.a the real Donnie Brasco to face The Mafia in court. For six years, he rubbed elbows with some of the scariest gangsters alive and now he’s working with the then U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani to bring them to justice. Joe’s testimony was crucial in The Pizza Connection Trial and The Commission Trial, which was the most expensive trial in New York City history. Usually, the mafia doesn’t deal in the business of drugs. But at the end of the day when the money’s rolling in, it’s easy to turn and look the other way.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:54 - The RICO Act
00:07:03 - The Lawyers
00:09:37 - The Pizza Connection Trial
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Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone are back and diving even further into the Donnie Brasco story. This week is all about mafia business and the cash-raking hustle of hijacking. From Sonny Black to John Gotti, these wise guys worked some of the most successful (and dangerous) car-jacking rings in the country. So much so it worked them up the family hierarchy. But what happens when the mighty inevitably fall? Do they fall back into a life of crime or try and go straight?
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:56 - Mindset of The Mafia Man
00:11:48 - Business of Hijacking
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Leo and Joe are back with even more jaw-dropping stories that will have you inching toward the edge of your seat. After spending six years undercover, it was time for Joe to take the stand against the mafia men that he spent nearly every day with. You’ll hear stories about The Pizza Connection Trial, The Commission Trial and about some of the other operations that took him around the globe. Throughout this season, you’ll hear secret recordings of conversations Joe had with the members of the Bonanno Crime Family, and learn the real reason as to why Joe finally left the FBI.
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Happy Holidays! We have a gift for all of the listeners that have made this year special. It’s a two part holiday special with Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone, the real Donnie Brasco. Joe tells us what it was like spending so many holiday seasons with the mafia. From stolen Christmas gifts to Charlie Brown Christmas trees, they discuss it all.
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Happy Holidays! We have a gift for all of the listeners that have made this year special. It’s a two part holiday special with Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone, the real Donnie Brasco. Joe tells us what it was like spending so many holiday seasons with the mafia. From stolen Christmas gifts to Charlie Brown Christmas trees, they discuss it all.
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We're back with another bonus episode! This time, with Joe and Leo's first interview where THEY ask the questions. Their guest, the interviewee, is Joseph Woodring, a retired prison warden and associate warden who oversaw murderers, high level drug dealers, maximum security facilities, worked for the department of justice, and the state department. He shares his experiences, and even discusses what it was like working closely with some of the world's most dangerous inmates, including ones who were in the Mafia.
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While we're waiting for Season 2... the president and founder of our favorite show's production company, Matty Staudt, is taking this opportunity to get to know Leo and Joe's story better. From Leo's days in radio to Joe's peccadillos, we get to be flies on the wall to this humorous and revealing discussion between three Italians who have more in common than they realized.
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In this Season 1 finale of Deep Cover, Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone reminisce on tales of Hollywood related to the production of the movie, Donnie Brasco, and more. They’ve known each other for years and have many stories to share to prove it. Joe may have been deep undercover with the mafia, but according to him, Hollywood executives are the ones not to be trusted. Coming soon, Deep Cover Season 2, will continue where Joe left off, sharing more stories of his time deep undercover in not just America, but overseas as well.
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Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone get into the showbiz of Donnie Brasco, the movie. Revealing stories of what it was like to work with an A-list actor like Johnny Depp, especially the relationship of respect established between Depp and Joe. Joe Pistone also reveals what parts of the movie were true to his actual experience undercover, and which were fictionalized for the big screen.
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