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This episode is a deep dive into the nuances of collecting Vintage Paiste Cymbals with Dan Garza, a die hard Paiste enthusiast and the moderator of the Paiste section on Cymbal.Wiki. We cover everything from the different alloys that are used in production, the variations in serial numbers, production techniques, and all the cymbal lines up to the 70's (that will continue on in part 2). Dan also talks a lot about what makes Paiste so special and different from the other major cymbal manufacturers and why some lines have become so extremely valuable over the years. Stay tune for Part 2!Here are the links provided by Dan for more Paiste information:Dan's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV5P6pbrDcLUXs4y3KSK8EAPaiste Cymbalshttps://www.facebook.com/paistecompanyPaiste Cymbals New and Vintagehttps://www.facebook.com/groups/185747971524740Paiste vintage cymbalshttps://www.facebook.com/groups/528704867196724Paiste Wiki Fans of the Worldhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/1625307324174814Paiste Sound Creation & SC ND & FO 602https://www.facebook.com/groups/1708983262518911Paiste 2002https://www.facebook.com/groups/57292836702/Paiste Giant Beats, Dixies, 4o4s, Stambuls, Ludwig Standardshttps://www.facebook.com/groups/575719383757754Paiste 505https://www.facebook.com/groups/1676616175891815/Paiste 3000 Cymbals and Hihatshttps://www.facebook.com/groups/131081820851051kleinanzeigen Ebay; https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-paiste/k0German Ebay: https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=paiste&_sacat=0&LH_ItemCondition=4&Marke=Paiste&_dcat=41441&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=1Mercatino musicale: https://www.mercatinomusicale.com/ann/search.asp?kw=paiste&rp=4&ct=&ch=&mc=&gp=2&st=&p1=&p2=&rg=&pv=&vt=&pc=&sg=&pn=&ob=datatutti.ch: https://www.tutti.ch/de/q/instrumente/Ak6ZwYWlzdGWybXVzaWNhbEluc3RydW1lbnRzlJGSp29yZ2FuaWOldHV0dGnAwMA?sorting=newest&page=1&query=paisteGerman shop: https://www.germanshop24.com/non-food/household/cleaning-supplies/mr.-muscle-stainless-steel-cleaner/Join my YouTube membership channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6-idkIENcqobRy0s9Jc5Yw/join** CHECK OUT MY GEAR ON SWEETWATER **https://imp.i114863.net/yRYRGN** 30 DAY FREE DRUMEO TRIAL **https://drumeo.pxf.io/c/3607735/1268414/14652**JOIN PATREON**https://www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast**I record interviews with Riverside.FM - I highly recommend it. Here is my affiliate link: https://riverside.fm/?via=bart-vanderzee
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Anthony has been on a mission to discover as much as he can on the history of the legendary Covington era of Rogers Drums! Anthony and his Rogers friends are using state of the art techniques to test the species of each ply on various shells to determine the make up of the shells, and he is utilizing the research that the generation before him has compiled. This has allowed him to put together a comprehensive look at the Rogers drums that were made in the small town of Covington, Ohio between 1954 and 1968. This small town was producing some of the finest drums in the world at this point and was beloved by some of the greatest players in the world such as Buddy Rich and Louie Bellson!
Here is a link to the episode about the history of Rogers Drums with Po Shy and Jeff Burke : https://youtu.be/93bfAD5w7Vo
Here is Anthonys great Rogers YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@rogersdrumvideos
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Vincent gives us a deep dive into the history of the American made Zildjian Cymbals from 1929 up through the 1990s. We talk about all the various stamps through he generations that can be used to identify vintage A. Zildjian cymbals, along with notes on the hammering, lathing, and bell size that can help you determine collectibility and value of a vintage Zildjian cymbal. Vincent shares his 9 step process of determining if a cymbal is a good purchase which includes everything from the shape of the cymbal to the source you purchase it from, and everything in between.
We touch a little bit on the Turkish made K. Zildjians, but more info will come on that down the road!
Here is a link to the full Zildjian history episode with Paul Francis: https://youtu.be/i0l-Vw6W1UY
Here are some helpful guides to date your cymbals:
https://black.net.nz/avedis/avedis-by-years.html
https://robscott.net/cymbals/a-zildjian/
https://www.hidehitters.com/cymbals/Zildjianstamps/timeline.html
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Enjoy this classic episode from 2020! We are lead to believe that the bass drum pedal was invented in the USA, and that the drum set as we know it today was first created in the states - but Fritz shares examples that show many revolutionary drum inventions that were first created in Europe. We also discuss brands like Sonor, Trixon, Paiste, plus drumming and drum building in communist countries and many other great facts and stories along the way.
Fritz is a veteran in the drum industry and has owned and operated DrumHouse Freiberg since 2001 in Germany. He brings a very unique knowledge base to the show and shares lots of information that I have never heard anywhere else. Check out the DrumHouse here: https://www.drumhouse.com/
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(Part 3) Paul Wells is a Professor of Jazz Drums at Juilliard and he is also a fanatical fan of Neil Peart and his drum sets. This is part 3 of a 3 part series that covers all of the drums, cymbals, hardware, heads, and percussion that helped Neil Peart be one of the best drummers in history. This episode covers Neil's switch to DW drums, his work with Freddie Gruber, his switching to Roland V-Drums and the many iconic kits that were from the last part of his career!
I hope you guys like Part 3 about Neil Peart's drums!
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Check out these episodes on YouTube here:
Watch Part 1 here: https://youtu.be/IF9ucbt7VHI
Part 2: https://youtu.be/hsSU_GjbdLQ
Part 3: https://youtu.be/iRhASmUGQSY
RIP to The Professor ❤️
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Rob Birenbaum is the founder of Drum Headquarters in St. Louis, MO and HQ Percussion, which famously produced the iconic RealFeel practice pads and Sound Off drum mute pads. This is a great story of how Rob started as a salesman/drum teacher at a local Missouri drum shop and took that knowledge and created his own shop which became a dominate force in his area, and became the top Tama dealer in the state in the 1980's. Rob then took advantage of a business deal that made him the owner of what became RealFeel practice pads. It was not an easy road though, Rob had to spend lots of money and time to get the pad dialed in to be what became the famous octagonal pad. He later sold the company to D'Addario and learned many valuable lessons about business.
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(Part 2) Paul Wells is a Professor of Jazz Drums at Juilliard and he is also a fanatical fan of Neil Peart and his drum sets. This is part 2 of a 3 part series that covers all of the drums, cymbals, hardware, heads, and percussion that helped Neil Peart be one of the best drummers in history. This episode covers Neil's introduction to electronic drums that he used with the Tama Candy Apple Red Kit and throughout his career, his love of samples, his evolving Ludwig white, blue, and black kits, and info on his personal small Gretsch kit he used at home - and much more!
I hope you guys like Part 2 about Neil Peart's drums - Stay tuned for Part 3.
Here is Paul's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@paulwells2227
and find him on social media at @paulwellsdrums
RIP to The Professor ❤️
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Paul Wells is a Professor of Jazz Drums at Juilliard and he is also a fanatical fan of Neil Peart and his drum sets. This is part 1 of a 3 part series that covers all of the drums, cymbals, hardware, heads, and percussion that helped Neil Peart be one of the best drummers in history. This episode covers Neil's very first drum set as a child, up through his iconic Candy Apple Red Tama kit that became famous as a banner hanging on drummers walls around the world.
I hope you guys like this mega deep dive into Neil Peart's drums!
Here is Paul's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@paulwells2227
and find him on social media at @paulwellsdrums
RIP to The Professor ❤️
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The list of legendary drummers that played with the late Wayne Shorter is absolutely incredible. Mark Griffith takes us through each album and stage in Waynes career and which iconic drummer was involved at any given time. Just to name a few, he played with people such as Art Blakey, Tony Williams, Jack DeJohnette, Elvin Jones, Ndugu Chancler, Peter Erskine, Bryan Blade, Jeff Porcaro and that is just barely scratching the surface. Mark is the Editor in Chief and Director of Content/Education for Modern Drummer and he has tons of great first hand experiences with many of these drummers who all held Wayne Shorter in the highest regard possible.
Keep up with everything Mark does for MD by subscribing to the Magazine via www.moderndrummer.com
*The Questlove documentary I was talking about is called "Summer of Soul" from 2021
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(This is EP49 from May, 2020) We learn the role of drummers in the Military and the purpose they served as a form of communication and a way to keep the troops unified during battle starting with the US Colonies through to the Revolutionary War. Then we take a deep dive into the Civil War and learn all about the importance of the Fife and Drum Corp on both sides in the extremely bloody war that divided the country.
Patrick Jones is a Fife and Drum Corps expert and regularly performs with Camp Chase Fifes and Drums at events all over the country. He also restores rope tension snare drums to exact detail. Patrick is a 5th grade history teacher and he does a great job of explaining all of these details so that people of any knowledge level of US History can understand this and learn a lot about Military drumming.
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Bob Cianci, the author of "The Great Rock Drummers of the Sixties," takes us on a trip down memory lane to explore the iconic drummers who revolutionized the sound of rock music in the 1960s. Through fascinating anecdotes and historical insights, Cianci shares his personal experiences and extensive research on drumming legends such as Ringo Starr, Keith Moon, Charlie Watts, and many others. I gained a newfound appreciation for the crucial role that drummers played in shaping the sound and culture of rock music during this transformative decade from this great conversation with Bob Cianci!
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Bruce Becker has written a brand new book that takes the iconic "Progressive Steps to Syncopation for the Modern Drummer" by Ted Reed to the next level and gives Bruce's signature teaching approach to one of the top selling drum books of all time. Bruce's new book is called "The Ultimate Guide to Syncopation: Concepts for the Development of Motion, Melody, and Independence. Bruce starts the conversation by reminiscing about his former teacher Freddie Gruber, and then we dig into the Why, What and How of creating his book and accompanying videos.
Get Bruce's great book here on Amazon: https://amzn.to/40H1T7I
Checkout everything at www.brucebecker.com and keep up with him on social media by searching for Bruce Becker.
Here is Bruce's previous episode all about Freddie Gruber: https://megaphone.link/GS4119073557
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Jared Falk is the founder of Drumeo which has grown to be one of the top platforms for online education in the world. Drumeo is not only a great source of online education on drumeo.com, but the brand is also a giant across social media and YouTube as with millions of subscribers and followers. Drumeo has changed the way online lessons are presented and is responsible for creating countless new drummers which helps our entire industry grow. Jared and I discuss his early beginnings with filming lessons on his families farm, utilizing the internet to sell lessons on eBay, and then taking full advantage of YouTube to explode onto the scene and become the Drumeo we know today.
Jared is now the Founder and Chairman of Musora Inc. which is the parent company to Drumeo, Guitario, Pianote, and Singeo. He is a wealth of information on not only drumming, but also how to succeed in business.
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Rob Leytham uses Neuro-Rhythmic Trauma Therapy to help children regulate their emotions with the power of drumming. He uses brain science and his 35 years of drum teaching skills to help kids avoid the normal punishments and suspensions that they would normally face. Not only is his classroom full of Djembes and percussion instruments, but Rob's passion has spread to the entire faculty at Ridgeview where many teachers use percussion to help calm troubled students and the impact has been enormous. Rob has now expanded to traveling around the country to speak about the power of drumming to help regulate kids who need help.
Rob has written 10 books and 20 articles on drumming for major publications. His latest Book/ Music is titled: "The Feeling is Bright: Self Regulation through Rhythm and Rhyme.
Check out the book here: https://consciousdiscipline.com/product/the-feeling-is-bright-individual-license/
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ASBA Drums is an iconic French drum brand that dates back to 1927 with a very interesting history. Damo and Saúl share the full story of this brand which began as just an accessory company, and grew to be a fully formed drum brand that made literally everything in house. They created drum heads, they had a foundry and made all the hardware and metal drum shells and the wood shells and everything else along the way. The company had a great long run but unfortunately went out of business in the 1980's. Fortunately though, the brand is back alive as of 2017 with a whole new lease on life and is making the same great quality drums that they are known for, including the iconic Caroline bass drum pedal.
Learn more at www.asbadrums.com
Here is a direct link to the timeline I spoke about in the episode: https://www.asbadrums.com/gb/timeline
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Sahir aka Sai teaches us the process of building drum shells from foraging for the perfect tree in the forest all the way to processing the ply's to create beautiful drum shells. We talk about the modern technology that is used to create sturdy and dependable shells that our drum building ancestors only dreamed about and much much more. Not only does Sai create beautiful drums for some of the biggest names in drumming, he is has a successful career as a tour director and production manager for major world wide productions.
Check out Masters of Maple at www.mdrums.com
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JP Bouvet takes us on a deep dive into the concept of improvising on the drum kit. We discuss things like how to practice improvisation, the misconceptions that come with it, how you can break out of your "go-to beats" and much more! JP is a monster player very well respected teacher who has built his brand around the importance of improvising on the drum kit and entering the flow mode.
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Eric Sooy founded Black Swamp Percussion nearly 30 years ago and has built the brand from the ground up by creating extremely high quality orchestral and band percussion instruments. Eric teaches me the nuance that goes into creating tambourines for orchestras and the differences between that and a traditional drum set tambourine, plus we also discuss what makes an orchestral snare special for that type of music and much more! I really enjoyed hearing Eric discuss the ups and downs and risks that go into starting a business and how he has put together a team that creates some of the finest instruments in the world out of his shop in Holland, Michigan.
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David Frangioni, CEO of Modern Drummer, makes an exclusive announcement about the future of Modern Drummer right here on Drum History! Not only do we learn about the exciting news, we also get an update on what has been happening with the magazine since the Frangioni family took things over in February 2020, just weeks before the pandemic changed the world forever, and how this has shaped the exciting new plans for the magazine. David then takes us through his life which began with eye cancer as a child and his persistent rise to the top in the fields of music, technology, and collecting. This is a really good one that is full of great information!
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and here is the link for The Quiet Riders new album with Josh Kanusky on drums. This is available on all platforms - here is spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5IuDANYE4MlGC5rCM6aDUw?si=Zq_PpDj9T064qcnutllaRA
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Earl Bennett has been a collector and enthusiast of US drum magazines for the last 40+ years and he shares his vast knowledge of known magazines like Modern Drummer, Drum!, and Rhythm plus other lesser known ones like Traps, Classic Drummer, and Talking Drum. We discuss the many different styles and variations of magazines through the years and how they had to pivot in the digital age to stay alive as long as they could. As of 2023, physical drum magazines have become few and far between but will always be an important part of drum history.
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