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Gretchen and Caroline begin their "season 2" of the podcast, starting with A Question of Succession. Jaehaerys is surprised by the number of attendees to his awesome council, and is also DEFINITELY surprised by the outcome! It was not at all rigged, folks!
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Caroline and Gretchen review the "Green" and the "Black" trailers. They conclude that violence is bad, and they hope the writers know!
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Caroline and Gretchen welcome back friend of the show Musa to discuss (read: defend) the Good King Jaehaerys. The three ask the important question: but how does the man feel?
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Gretchen and Caroline are joined by NEW FRIEND Frankie to discuss race and racism in the A Song of Ice and Fire universe, covering the books, House of the Dragon, and Fire & Blood up until the end of Jaehaerys's reign. You know, just a nice light topic.
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WE HAVE ANOTHER FRIEND!! Gretchen and Caroline are joined by guest Nick to discuss "Great Man Theory" in history and as applied to Fire & Blood. This continues to not be a Dune podcast.
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Gretchen and Caroline look back on the podcast so far, analyzing their own analysis for over two hours :) We swear this is not a Dune podcast.
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Caroline and Gretchen continue their analysis of Fire & Blood with the end of the eleventh chapter, The Long Reign Section 6. The world's most serendipitous crossbow bolt totally accidentally and not-on-purpose kills the crown Prince, and finally Jaehaerys is sad about a child's death. Also, take your calcium.
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Gretchen and Caroline continue their analysis of Fire & Blood with the eleventh chapter, The Long Reign Section 5. For literally a whole ten pages, Jaehaerys struggles to accept the fact that one of his teenage daughters had CONSENSUAL SEXUAL INTERCOURSE!! And to make it worse, it wasn't even with her brother!!! The horror!
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Caroline and Gretchen continue their analysis of Fire & Blood with the eleventh chapter, The Long Reign Section 4. Jaehaerys gets an absolute bee in his bonnet about getting his 13-year-old daughter, Daella, married ASAP - fortunately Alysanne is able to delay until she is the ripe old age of 16 :-) and then Jaehaerys & Sons defeat those dastardly Dornish! The best king everyone!
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Gretchen and Caroline continue their analysis of Fire & Blood with the eleventh chapter, The Long Reign Section 3. As years pass under Targaryen rule, Alysanne has EVEN MORE KIDS. Meanwhile, some (read: all) of those kids seem to have problems stemming from neglect. And yet Lucamore Strong is punished for having sixteen kids himself!! The Patriarchy is weird.
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Caroline and Gretchen continue their analysis of Fire & Blood with the eleventh chapter, The Long Reign Section 2. Rogar Baratheon leans into that toxic masculinity by causing more violence in yet another "Dornish" war. And George R.R. Martin hurts us all badly with the death of Princess Daenerys, while Alyssa is Not Like Other Girls (TM), and did you know the 7-year-old Prince is SO handsome??
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Gretchen and Caroline continue their analysis of Fire & Blood with the eleventh chapter, The Long Reign Section 1. Alyssa Farman sails off into the sunset (literally) while the shivers ravages King's Landing. The smallfolk are shockingly racist and attack Rego Draz. Jaehaerys takes action - but only on the latter. There's nothing he could do for the shivers!
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Gretchen and Caroline react to House of the Dragon Season 2 Trailer and make predictions about the rest of the show! We're so worried!
Check out Sumalee Eaton @sew.sumalee on TikTok for more costume analysis.
Check out the neato family tree we used this episode in this article: https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/7/17/15982450/house-targaryen-family-tree-fanart
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Gretchen and Caroline continue their analysis of Fire & Blood with the tenth chapter, Jaehaerys and Alysanne: Their Triumphs and Tragedies Section 4. Alysanne goes to the North and proves that she is, indeed, the brains behind this whole operation, while Jaehaerys threatens dragon violence to force a peace between foreign dignitaries. BUT did you know he's a great dancer?
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Caroline and Gretchen continue their analysis of Fire & Blood with the tenth chapter, Jaehaerys and Alysanne: Their Triumphs and Tragedies Section 3. Rhaena Targaryen has the MOST MOVING scene scattering her daughter's ashes on dragonback, while Jaehaerys obsesses over his stolen dragon eggs and Alysanne heads to the North. Everyone collectively listens closely for any whisper of chickens...
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Gretchen and Caroline continue their analysis of Fire & Blood with the tenth chapter, Jaehaerys and Alysanne: Their Triumphs and Tragedies Section 2. Elissa Farman escapes into the West while rumors about Balerion's location circulate until, oh no! Aerea returns on Balerion, and George R.R. Martin embraces his Eldritch-horror subplot! Wyrms wyrms wyrms!
TRIGGER WARNING for discussion of body horror and traumatic birth imagery from 00:57:40 to 01:50:00.
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Caroline and Gretchen continue their analysis of Fire & Blood with the tenth chapter chapter, Jaehaerys and Alysanne: Their Triumphs and Tragedies Section 1. Rhaena Targaryen wanders the rainy countryside searching for Aerea, while Jaehaerys buckles down on projects that were totally only his idea and Alysanne is not at all involved! Oh yeah, and there's a new heir presented to the smallfolk Lion-King-Style!
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Gretchen and Caroline continue their analysis of Fire & Blood by concluding the ninth chapter, Birth, Death, and Betrayal Under King Jaehaerys I Part 3. While Jaehaerys continues to start new projects and Alysanne enjoys her daughter Daenerys (who will DEFINITELY be queen one day), Rhaena has to cope with a daughter who runs away and a murderous husband. Being the royal family is awesome and not at all traumatic! Questions or comments? Email us at [email protected]
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TRIGGER WARNING EPISODE - Caroline and Gretchen continue their analysis of Fire & Blood with the ninth chapter, Birth, Death, and Betrayal Under King Jaehaerys I Part 2. When the High Septon dies, Jaehaerys and Alysanne take a convenient trip to Oldtown to mourn him (with their dragons!) while some plot-relevant eggs disappear on Dragonstone. And the patriarchy is very bad to Alyssa!
TRIGGER WARNING for discussion about traumatic childbirth, infant mortality, birth mortality, and forms of surgery surrounding said topics. Discussion begins at 51:30 and ends at 1:45:00.
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