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  • Today on Moment of Zen, Samo Burja and Rudyard Lynch return for for a mind-bending discussion and deep dive into the concept of "long ripples" — how ideas and events from the distant past continue to shape our present and future in unexpected ways. From Plato's influence on modern political movements to the unforeseen consequences of the Industrial Revolution, this conversation challenges our understanding of historical cause and effect.

    Are we truly progressing, or are we caught in cycles we fail to recognize? Can we learn from the past, or are we doomed to repeat it in new, technologically-amplified ways? This episode is a rollercoaster ride through time, technology, and human nature, forcing us to reconsider our place in the grand sweep of history. 

    Both Samo and Rudyard are hosts of Turpentine shows, Live Players and History 102, respectively.

    CHECK OUT:
    Live Players:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fbMTkHBnom1JIBWYNVBK1
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-players-with-samo-burja-and-erik-torenberg/id1718925188

    History 102:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913



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    (00:00) Intro
    (00:15) Exploring Plato's Influence
    (05:10) Historical Ripples and Convergent Evolution
    (06:45) The Fall of Civilizations
    (12:43) Comparing Civilizational Cycles
    (17:42) The Future of Human Civilization
    (23:30) Sponsor: Dealcraft
    (29:02) AI and Genetic Engineering: Potential and Pitfalls
    (33:30) Pandemic Era Reflections
    (34:04) Genetic Engineering and Society
    (34:49) Sponsor: WorkOS | Squad
    (36:43) 19th Century Misconceptions
    (39:23) Cycles of Societal Transformation
    (41:54) Intellectual Decay and Historical Rewriting
    (44:13) Anthropology and Cultural Studies
    (46:34) Decline of Western Institutions
    (53:12) Space Exploration and Technological Decline
    (1:01:15) Hypernormalization and Social Reality
    (1:01:49) Wrap

  • In this thought-provoking episode, repeat guests of MOZ Hannah and Steve (both anonymous) return to debate the controversy surrounding Tucker Carlson's Martyr Made interview with historian Daryl Cooper about World War II.

    They critically examine Cooper's contentious views on Churchill and Hitler, discussing the dangers of historical revisionism from both the left and the right and its impact on modern political discourse.

    The conversation explores the fine line between challenging historical narratives and engaging in counterproductive provocation, touching on issues of antisemitism, the political alignment of Jewish Americans, and the broader implications for right-wing politics.

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    (00:09) Setting the stage for the Tucker Carlson interview controversy
    (01:10) The core of the controversy: Revisiting World War II narratives
    (03:00) Holocaust denial vs. edgy revisionism: Analyzing the interview's approach
    (06:00) The dangers of "transgressive" historical revisionism
    (10:40) Debunking myths vs. promoting harmful narratives
    (18:40) Fact-checking Daryl Cooper's claims about World War II
    (25:10) Sponsor break: WorkOS | Squad
    (33:30) The broader context: Antisemitism and political discourse
    (41:30) Examining the political implications for Jewish voters
    (49:20) The psychology of hate in political movements
    (57:10) Constructive alternatives to controversial historical revisionism
    (1:05:00) The self-fulfilling prophecy of antisemitism accusations
    (1:08:35) Conclusion: Putting the controversy in perspective

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  • Today on Moment of Zen, we're airing a discussion between Samo Burja and Rudyard Lynch - two intellectual heavyweights tackling the idea that civilizations may have inherent differences that can alter our understanding of the course of history and politics.
    Both Samo and Rudyard are hosts of Turpentine shows, Live Players and History 102, respectively.
    This is a fascinating discussion on threads that bridge Silicon Valley with ancient civilizations like Babylon, the impact of Abrahamic religions, and the idea that societies go through cycles that may upend our current assumptions

    CHECK OUT:
    Live Players:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fbMTkHBnom1JIBWYNVBK1
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-players-with-samo-burja-and-erik-torenberg/id1718925188

    History 102:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913



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    TIMESTAMPS:
    (00:00) Intro
    (00:40) Beginning of Discussion on Civilizational Differences
    (02:46) Abrahamic vs Non-Abrahamic Societies
    (07:29) Classical Civilization vs Modern Western Civilization
    (11:16) Literacy Rates in Ancient Rome
    (14:48) Pre-modern Feminism and Ancient Greek Society
    (20:06) Sponsors: WorkOS | Alts
    (22:08) Continuation After Sponsor Break
    (26:39) Cycles of Civilization and Political Theory
    (30:04) Deforestation and Environmental Changes in Ancient Civilizations
    (32:08) Sponsor: Squad
    (33:12) Spengler's Theory of Civilizational Rise and Fall
    (36:53) Archaeology and Museums in Ancient Babylon
    (38:09) Societal Decline in Ancient Civilizations
    (40:11) Modern China as a Hybrid Civilization
    (42:22) New Religions in California
    (46:40) Machine Worship and Singularity Beliefs
    (51:10) Regional Differences Within America
    (54:11) Obscure Civilizations: Nuragic and Khmer
    (58:03) Wrap

  • Erik Torenberg and Noah Smith are joined by Dario Amodei, CEO and Co-founder of Anthropic. Dario talks about the economics of AI development, the comparative advantage of AI companies like Anthropic, AI safety, and his stance on California's SB 1047 bill. They also discuss the impacts of AI on global power dynamics, competition between the US and China, and inequality in an AI-powered world.

    This episode was recorded this week on Turpentine’s show Econ 102. Check it out for more like this: https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs?si=8fab4d65ddf5422a


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    (00:00) Intro
    (04:23) Dario's intellectual evolution
    (06:37) Is Google the Bell Labs of Al?
    (10:07) Economic moats in Al
    (12:35) Scaling hypothesis and Al's future
    (17:05) National security and Al
    (19:04) Leopold Aschenbrenner's essay
    (20:33) Al's impact on business models
    (26:30) Noah's big thesis 
    (29:51) Sponsors: WorkOS
    (31:58) Al arms races?
    (36:17) Al's impact on labor and skill distribution
    (40:41) Sponsor: Babbel | Squad
    (44:35) Future of Al and a hyperscaling world
    (41:42) A vision of radical abundance
    (49:55) Al safety and inequality
    (54:06) The SB 1047 debate
    (58:56) Rabbit alignment problem
    (01:01:25) Wrap

  • Joshua Steinman, former military officer who served as Deputy Assistant to President Trump and Senior Director for Cyber (2017-2021), now co-founder of Galvanick, joins Erik Torenberg and AI scout Nathan Labenz for a discussion on the AI arms race. They focus on US-China relations, the rate of AI development, and the global implications of a technological arms race. 

    Should the US and China work together to prevent a future of AI-powered warfare, or is a conflict inevitable?
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    (00:00) Intro
    (00:16) Reflections on previous episode
    (03:31) Discussion on AI and Energy Concerns
    (05:57) AI Arms Race Concerns and China's Plans
    (09:49) Distributed Training and Rhetoric
    (12:10) Ashenbrenner Model and Benefit Sharing
    (15:54) Josh's Experience with Trump and Media Misrepresentation
    (18:22) Public Perception of Trump and Media Bias
    (23:07) Reasons for Disparaging Trump and the Dynamics of Power
    (28:41) China's Nature and Response to China
    (31:08) AI Concerns, Energy, and Corporate Power
    (36:02) Tail Risk, Slaughterbots, and Political Power
    (38:27) Arms Reduction Treaties and Reality
    (42:05) Decommissioning Nuclear Weapons and AI Arms Race
    (45:32) Semiconductor Policy and AI Future
    (47:35) Slaughterbots, AI Control, and Trust-Building
    (50:18) Olive Branches and China's Leadership
    (51:52) Rand Corporation Report and Private Speeches
    (55:13) The Declining Barriers to Entry in Violence
    (58:48) Einstein Quote and Nuclear Weapons
    (1:00:36) Wrap

  • Erik Torenberg and Samo Burja discuss the top challenges Kamala Harris or Donald Trump will have to face in their presidency. They discuss foreign policy, including managing relations with China, reassessing defense contractors, and fostering economic alliances. They also address the inefficiencies in the non-profit sector, energy policy and nuclear power. Erik and Samo release weekly episodes together on the "Live Players" podcast.

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    (05:34) Bureaucratic reform and leaks
    (11:51) A second Donald Trump term
    (13:20) Nonprofits
    (16:02) Sponsors: WorkOS | Babbel
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    (27:46) Energy policy and cheap nuclear power
    (21:40) Foreign policy advice and China
    (32:19) Sponsor: Squad
    (33:58) Middle East and Russia foreign policy recommendations
    (44:06) Restructuring the US Air Force: Focus on drones over manned fighters
    (46:15) Proposal for special economic zones to boost industrial policy
    (50:07) Ideas for revitalizing US manufacturing and competing with China

  • Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase, joins Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Antonio Garcia Martinez to talk about the company's evolution and the broader crypto landscape. Following Coinbase's public listing and the recent regulatory environment, Armstrong discusses Coinbase's focus on product development, their efforts in Washington D.C., and strategies for increasing global crypto adoption. Armstrong also touches on his venture into biotech with New Limit, the changing media landscape, and the future of economic freedom through decentralized technologies.
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    (11:00) Thoughts on Mass Market Crypto Adoption
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    (35:59) Measuring Economic Freedom and Crypto Adoption
    (44:52) Origins of New Limit Biotech Company
    (50:59) Challenges of Shifting from Crypto to Biotech
    (53:58) Reflections on Dan Romero's Contributions to Coinbase
    (56:56) Thoughts on Balaji Srinivasan
    (57:58) Balaji's Insights on Media Landscape
    (1:00:24) Wrap

  • In this episode of Moment of Zen, Erik Torenberg is joined by Samuel Hammond (@hamandcheese), a senior economist at the Foundation for American Innovation and AI Scout/ Cognitive Revolution podcast host Nathan Labenz (@labenz). From drug innovation to nuclear risk, they discuss the impact of AI on policy and governance, exploring the challenges and opportunities of a Trump vs. Harris presidency.

    From drug innovation to nuclear risk, they dissect the impact of AI on policy and governance, exploring the challenges and opportunities of a Trump vs. Harris presidency.

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    * AI and Leviathan: Part I:
    https://www.secondbest.ca/p/ai-and-leviathan-part-i

    * A Manhattan Project for AI Safety:
    https://www.secondbest.ca/p/a-manhattan-project-for-ai-safety

    Books:
    * Asymmetric Politics: How the New Right Became Resurgent in American Politics by Matthew Grossmann and David Hopkins
    * The New Class War by Michael Lind
    * The Great Stagnation by Tyler Cowen
    * The Singularity Is Near by Ray Kurzweil
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    (01:08) Samuel's Perspective on Trump: Focus on Innovation
    (03:54) Nathan's Perspective on Trump: Focus on Tail Risks
    (07:55) Governing Philosophies and Party Structures
    (14:53) The Need for Understanding AI on Its Own Terms
    (20:48) The Potential for AI to Reform the Administrative State
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    (29:34) The Dissonance Between Idealism and Reality
    (32:33) Sponsor: NetSuite| Squad
    (37:54) The Potential for a Crisis-Driven AI Policy
    (48:56) The Case for a Trump Administration in Light of Past Policies
    (1:13:20) The Risks of an AI Arms Race
    (1:28:28) The Potential for a Shared AI Future
    (1:47:56) The Need for a Pause in AI Development
    (1:57:02) The Limits of Individual Leadership and the Importance of Institutional Change
    (1:58:17) The Hypothetical Scenario of Trump Ordering a Nuclear Strike
    (2:02:02) The Need for Outsider Leadership

  • Today two anonymous friends of the podcast, Indian Bronson and "Hannah" join Erik Torenberg to make their moral case for Donald Trump. They discuss why swapping Kamala Harris for Joe Biden could cause a "reprise of Obama 2012", the immigration restrictionist viewpoint, and the "aesthetic baggage" that often comes along with the radical leaders capable of ushering in change. 

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    Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie
    Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more.
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntTPeo5ciXo

    Moment of Zen w/ Hannah and Antonio
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwS22WZ4gzY

    Moment of Zen w/ Richard Hanania - Trump/Biden Predictions with Richard Hanania:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mKjFeUJXOI

    Upstream with Erik Torenberg - Bryan Caplan on Housing Regulation, Fertility, and Crime:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8jeiGz8Qs4

    Indian Bronson Substack: 
    https://indianbronson.substack.com/

    Center for American Progress Presentation - America’s Electoral Future:
    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/americas-electoral-future-3/

    Norman Potter:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Potter

    Sam Brinton: 
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    TIMESTAMPS:
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    (02:55) The Moral Case for Trump
    (03:05) Kamala Harris and the Biden Administration
    (04:19) The Role of the American Presidency
    (05:03) The Problem with Unaccountable Bureaucracy
    (05:27) The Impact of Voter Preferences on Policy
    (09:40) The Obama Era and Its Aftermath
    (11:00) The Case for Trump 2024
    (13:04) National Identity
    (17:24) Sponsor: WorkOS | Babbel
    (21:20) The Consequences of Unchecked Immigration
    (28:05) Sponsor: Squad
    (30:38) The Need for a Common Civic Culture
    (37:15) Election Legitimacy and Voter Fraud
    (37:54) Illegal Immigration
    (39:23) Quality of Life in Different Cities
    (40:21) Law Enforcement
    (41:13) Immigration and Labor Force
    (48:39) Cultural Assimilation and National Identity
    (50:41) The Aesthetic Baggage of Trump's Character
    (1:01:28) Historical Context of Bombasity and Violence in American Politics

  • In today’s episode, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg discuss the potential of Kamala Harris as a presidential nominee, President Biden’s legacy, impact of COVID-19 on the economy and inflation, and the recent shifts in U.S. foreign relations and immigration policies.
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    Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie
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    (00:17) Kamala Harris's political prospects
    (05:04) Biden's legacy and presidential impact
    (14:51) Sponsors: Commandbar | Beehiiv
    (17:12) COVID-19 vaccine release
    (16:03) Inflation and economic policies
    (22:53) Industrial policy and trade
    (32:26) Sponsor: Babbel | Squad
    (35:09) Impact of Trump’s presidency
    (40:19) Afghanistan withdrawal and the role of Trump and Biden
    (47:20) Ukraine: Biden administration's response
    (55:48) Biden's big challenge on immigration
    (59:16) Wrap

  • In this episode of Moment of Zen, Balaji Srinivasan sits down with Erik Torenberg to discuss the massive vibe shift in Silicon Valley a week after Trump's near-assassination, tech's emerging role as a counter-elite force, why Biden is president NPC, January 6, and the role of the media.

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    Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    (00:00) Introduction
    (01:21) The Vibe Shift in the Tech Industry
    (02:54) The Tech Counter-Elite
    (08:01) Tech's Influence on Politics
    (14:32) Tech's Impact on the Republican Party
    (20:40) The Democrat Party and the Tech Counter-Elite
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    (29:39) The Core Disagreement: Who Should Run Things?
    (38:45) The Power Struggle Between the Elite and Counter-Elite
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    (40:02) Political Parties as Swarms of Ideologies
    (49:56) Adapting to a Changing World Order
    (1:12:41) The Media's Role in Shaping Public Opinion
    (1:26:48) The Potential for New Cities and Countries
    (1:41:54) Wrap
     

  • In this episode, Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg discuss China's energy strategy and its broader geopolitical implications. Contrary to popular belief, China is not aggressively pursuing energy independence but remains reliant on imports despite significant domestic oil production. The conversation delves into China's geopolitical strategy, its military preparedness, and the potential consequences of a conflict over Taiwan. The episode also explores the broader implications of a potential U.S.-China industrial competition and the risks of a bipolar world.
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    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH
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    🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech.
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    (01:46) China's Domestic Oil Production
    (03:00) Energy Independence and Geopolitical Strategy
    (04:00) Comparing US and China Energy Policies
    (05:13) China's Economic Logic Over Energy Security
    (06:09) China's Relationship with Iran and Russia
    (07:55) Modernizing China's Petrochemical Industry
    (08:33) Advising China on Resource Independence
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    (18:58) China's Strategic Priorities and War Likelihood
    (22:16) Western Brinksmanship and Misconceptions
    (29:29) The Role of Manufacturing in Modern Warfare
    (30:44) The Need for a Massive Industrial Base
    (33:30) Sponsors: Squad
    (34:54) China's Strategic Military Preparations
    (36:57) China's Oil and Resource Capabilities
    (40:11) The Taiwan Conflict: Economic and Military Implications
    (52:47) The Future of Global Power Dynamics

  • This week, Noah Smith joins Erik Torenberg to discuss America's future. They cover the 2024 presidential race, the Chevron ruling from the Supreme Court, and the polarization of the education system. Noah and Erik also discuss where wokeness goes from here, and the potential outcomes of integrating more conservatives into the civil service through initiatives like Project 2025. Noah also debunks the deep state myth and discusses the real issues surrounding Biden's age, questioning the influence of "political handlers" and the reality of a "deep state."
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    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211
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    Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie
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    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    (00:00) Preview
    (01:09) 4th of July Celebrations and Mailbag Questions
    (01:51) Debate Reflections: Trump vs. Biden
    (02:35) Biden's Age and Democratic Dilemma
    (03:09) Kamala Harris: The Successor Debate
    (04:12) Michelle Obama: A Potential Candidate?
    (07:06) The Deep State: Myth or Reality?
    (11:30) Bernie Sanders and the DNC
    (13:58) Chevron Ruling and Its Implications
    (19:10) Sponsor: beehiiv | Babbel
    (22:44) Project 2025 and Civil Service Polarization
    (30:34) Reflecting on the Floyd Protests
    (31:57) The Impact of Trump's Presidency
    (35:05) Sponsors: Squad 
    (36:29) Debating the Administrative State
    (38:31) Challenges in the Education System
    (46:56) Redistribution and Class in America
    (53:37) The Future of UBI and Cash Benefits
    (57:51) Wrap

  • In this episode of Moment of Zen, Erik, Antonio, as well as two friends of the podcast who prefer to stay anonymous, discuss the disastrous Biden/Trump debate and what could happen after. They explore the state of U.S. politics by scrutinizing Joe Biden's controversial debate performance and its implications on his presidency, as well as reactions from the media and its impact on U.S. foreign relations.

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    Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie
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    (00:00) Political Gaffes and the Current State of Politics
    (01:23) Sponsor: CommandBar
    (02:18) Biden's Performance and Cognitive Decline
    (03:21) The Role of Media and Public Perception
    (07:15) Biden's Decision-Making and Political Dynamics
    (12:53) Potential Political Replacements and Speculations
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    (19:51) International Perspectives and Influence
    (22:30) Trump vs. Biden: Public Perception and Debate Tactics
    (27:43) Sponsors: NetSuite | Squad
    (36:54) Debating Biden's Public Image
    (37:48) Tech's Right-Wing Shift and Trump Endorsement
    (38:51) Silicon Valley's Political Divide
    (39:53) Crypto's Trump Support
    (40:49) Changing Political Opinions in Tech
    (45:30) Trump's Unpredictable Nature
    (46:32) Biden's Aging and Potential Successors
    (51:38) January 6th and Its Aftermath
    (1:07:01) Trump's Second Term Concerns
    (1:20:59) Wrap

  • In this episode of Moment of Zen, Erik interviews Richard Hanania about the evolving political landscape in the U.S., focusing on the changing dynamics within both the Republican and Democratic parties. They discuss the influence of big tech, the rise of Trumpism, political polarization, and the intellectual underpinnings of current political ideologies.

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    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH
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    (01:11) Silicon Valley's Shift: Anti-Wokeness and Economic Concerns
    (03:23) Political Evolution and Disillusionment with the Right
    (04:18) Conservatism, Technology, and Cultural Grievances
    (08:56) Human Capital and the Right's IQ Problem
    (13:53) Sponsor: CommandBar | Netsuite
    (16:22) Religion, Fertility, and Societal Coordination
    (19:10) The Return Philosophy and Women's Happiness
    (21:17) Trump's Political Genius and Threat to Democracy
    (26:01) Sponsor: beehiiv | Babbel | Squad
    (29:59) Biden vs. Trump: Election Predictions and Policy Impacts
    (38:34) Debunking Antisemitism Claims in Protests
    (39:28) Political Strategy and Victimhood
    (40:55) Historical Context of Antisemitism
    (42:11) Comparing Minority Experiences
    (42:56) Demonization and Conspiracy Theories
    (45:14) Evaluating Political Motivations
    (47:12) The Role of Intellectuals and Media
    (52:03) Immigration and National Identity
    (59:47) Future of American Politics
    (1:02:40) On Open Borders
    (1:04:51) IQ vs Common Sense
    (1:07:42) The Future of the Left and Right
    (1:13:56) Wrap

  • Today on Moment of Zen, Journalist Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry sits with Erik Torenberg to explain the volatile state of French politics following recent European Parliament elections where Macron’s party performed poorly and the National Rally did very well. The conversation offers insights into the broader implications of these political shifts, touches on the societal divisions fueling these changes, immigration, and the potential economic impact on France.
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    (00:00) Introduction
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    (04:20) Macron's Strategy & Cohabitation
    (08:11) The Political Landscape
    (14:28) Comparison with U.S. Politics
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    (16:22) Macron's Unpopularity & Economic Challenges
    (21:02) Energy Policy and the Rise of Populism
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    (27:94) The Economic Consequences of Populism
    (31:11) France vs. Brexit
    (35:46) The Future of France
    (45:00) Brexit Comparison & EU Reform
    (52:57) The Role of Young People in the Future
    (54:34) Wrap

  • In this episode that originally aired on Upstream, Erik sits down with Balaji Srinivasan to discuss the Fiat Crisis, geopolitics, conspiracies, and the signs of decline for a hyperpower. It was recorded in June of 2023. Balaji is an angel investor, tech founder, philosopher, and author of The Network State. He was formerly the CTO of Coinbase.
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    (00:00) Episode Preview
    (00:51) Intro
    (01:23) Understanding the flat crisis
    (08:34) Balaji’s equivalent premises
    (14:54) Sponsor: NetSuite and Beehiiv
    (17:55) Aftermath of Iraq and Afghanistan wars
    (20:35) Multipolar world
    (25:17) Blue America is at war with the world
    (28:35) Sponsor: Babbel | Squad
    (31:02) Cancellation is a weak form of warfare
    (33:05) Interplay of realism and idealism in the U.S
    (37:00) Red vs Blue vs Grey America
    (44:11) Concept of American partition
    (46:00) Rise of India's national Identity
    (47:00) Evolution of China and Russia
    (53:00) Microsoft, Facebook, and Google
    (54:00) Japan-USSR rivalry and its impact
    (01:01:10) Conspiracy theories and historical narratives
    (01:09:00) Balaji’s predictions for 2024 & the Fed
    (01:18:31) Wrap

  • David Sacks is known as a CEO/investor in multiple unicorns, and most recently a media mogul with All-In. In this episode, he sits down with Erik Torenberg to trace his intellectual and political history from his days fighting student activism at Stanford to now. We cover the political and cultural changes in the last 30 years of silicon valley, how the real distinction today is between the college-educated and the not, and how even though 2⁄3 of the country didn’t go to college, their views are not represented in our institutions today. This episode was recorded in December 2022 but is just as relevant today. 
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    (00:00) Intro
    (02:11) How did tech become less free speech-oriented?
    (03:35) Why is PayPal so woke?
    (06:02) Woke Capitalism game
    (08:52) Corporations and governments collaborating to censor
    (16:22) Tracing political history in Silicon Valley 
    (20:54) College educated vs. not is the biggest difference in US
    Our elite is not democratic
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    (29:15) Foreign Policy and Realism
    (32:28) U.S. Russiaphobia
    (36:30) Sponsor: Squad
    (38:05) Big Tech Monopolies and Regulation
    (41:42) The Future of Silicon Valley and Monopolies
    (42:32) Regulating Acquisitions and Startup Ecosystems
    (45:39) Censorship and Section 230
    (47:17) The Role of Free Speech in Social Progress
    (53:52) Institutional Reform and Accountability
    (54:56) Elon Musk's Influence on Tech and Media
    (1:06:33) The Future of Political and Economic Accountability
    (1:19:30) Wrap

  • Today we are airing Erik's interview with Joe Lonsdale, originally published on Upstream in 2023. Joe Lonsdale is the co-founder of Palantir, managing partner at 8VC, and the founder of The Cicero Institute, a nonpartisan policy organization discusses the root causes of educational inequality and homelessness, and argues for competence over culture wars, data-driven solutions, and market incentives to fix some of the US' most plaguing problems. Grow your newsletter with Beehiiv: head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    (00:00) Intro
    (00:47) Philanthropy and Impact: Joe's Approach to Social Change
    (01:18) Nonpartisan Solutions for Broken Systems
    (02:55) Cicero Institute's Mission and Impact Across States
    (07:42) Addressing Education Inequality and Accountability
    (12:32) Reforming Prisons and Probation with Data and Accountability
    (16:12) Tackling Homelessness with Common Sense and Accountability
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    (21:16) Introducing Market Incentives, Market Competition, and Market Accountability
    (25:06) Sponsor: Squad
    (26:34) Innovative Approaches to Healthcare
    (31:12) Rethinking Healthcare and Leadership
    (31:32) Innovating Within vs. Outside the System
    (32:13) The Challenge of Reforming Institutions
    (33:41) Navigating the Complexities of Defense and Innovation
    (37:36) The Power of State-Level Impact and Education Reform
    (39:29) Silicon Valley's Influence and Responsibility
    (40:32) Cultural Shifts and the Role of New Institutions
    (55:27) The Future of American Competence and Optimism
    (57:42) Wrap

  • In this episode, Carlos Pereira, partner at BITKRAFT Ventures, joins Erik, Antonio and Dan as they delve into the significant transformations within gaming, betting, and combat sports, facilitated by cryptocurrency and blockchain technology, emphasizing the groundbreaking integration of cryptocurrency through Web3 gaming.
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    (00:00) Opening Banter
    (01:28) Diving Into Crypto and Gaming Discussions
    (02:11) The Evolution and Challenges of Web3 Gaming
    (04:44) Analyzing the Crypto Gaming Landscape
    (13:48) The Future of Gaming: Web3 and Beyond
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    (18:29) Deep Dive into Web3 Gaming and Digital Economies
    (32:38) Exploring User-Generated Content and Game Modding
    (34:14) Sponsor: Squad
    (42:19) Investment Perspectives on Gaming and Infrastructure
    (45:47) The Fascinating World of Gaming Business
    (49:49) The Evolution of Gaming: From PVE to PVP
    (51:40) The Intriguing Dynamics of Safe Zones in Games
    (53:29) The Rise of Financialized Gaming Experiences
    (1:06:31) Karate Combat: A New Era of Crypto-Infused Sports
    (1:17:15) The Future of Media and Crypto's Role
    (1:23:13) Wrap