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Tom Haberstroh and Dan Devine are well aware that the Oklahoma City Thunder are LIKELY to win this year's NBA title. But what is Indiana's path to a championship, and just how viable is it? The Big Number has unearthed the key stats that prove how the Pacers could walk away with the Larry O, as improbable as it may seem. It would have to start with Tyrese Haliburton becoming ultra aggressive, which will be easier said than done against his #1 kryptonite: Lu Dort.
(1:23) The Big Number: Haliburton scoring vs. OKC
(11:59) Little Numbers: Pascal Siakam points produced in postseason
(16:21) Little Numbers: Thunder corner 3’s
(19:41) Little Numbers: What happened last time OKC lost a series?
(23:50) Little Numbers: Thunder vs. zone defense
(28:54) Knicks fire Tom Thibodeau
(38:50) Suns hire Ott as head coach
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Old friend of the show Mo Dakhil joins KOC to preview the NBA Finals in full -- how both guys landed on the Oklahoma City Thunder to take care of business in 5 games. BUT the guys play out the scenario, "what is the path to an Indiana Pacers Finals victory?" PLUS during the taping -- the guys' live reaction to the stunning breaking news that the New York Knicks were parting ways with Thibs! Dakhil says New York should reunite with Jeff Van Gundy to go for some real Garden Nostalgia.
Up next, Corey Tulaba and KOC weigh in on which NBA Draft Prospects have a real level of toughness, nastiness and tenacity. After a physical and grueling NBA Playoffs, Kevin and Corey discuss the 1st Round names that aren't afraid to mix things up and get their hands dirty. Some names discussed: Kon Knueppel, Tre Johnson, Jeremiah Fears, Noa Essengue, Cedric Coward, Carter Bryant and more.
(0:20) NBA Finals Game 1 preview with Mo Dakhil
(37:40) Knicks fire Tom Thibodeau
(45:48) What went wrong for Ant & Timberwolves?
(59:25) NBA Draft talk with Corey Tulaba
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On this episode of Good Word with Goodwill, Vince and David Aldridge discuss what the New York Knicks should do about Karl-Anthony Towns and preview the NBA Finals between the Oklahoma City Thunder and Indiana Pacers.
Next, Vince and David do a deep dive on how Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle will try and formulate a winning plan against the Thunder’s stellar defense.
Later Vince asks David how he will remember Inside the NBA on TNT and why the show was so impactful for so many years.
(1:47) How should the city of Seattle feel about the Thunder’s success?
(6:12) What should the Knicks do with Karl-Anthony Towns?
(16:16) Will the Eastern Conference see a seismic shift this offseason?
(23:09) NBA Finals Preview
(30:40) How will Rick Carlisle look to utilize Tyrese Haliburton against Thunder?
(36:16) How will Pacers attack Thunder’s defense?
(39:37) Shai Gilgeous-Alexander could be a problem for Pacers
(45:21) David Aldridge reflects on Inside the NBA on TNT
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Kevin O'Connor has 7 NBA questions keeping him up at night! He's joined by Nick Gallo to talk all things Oklahoma City Thunder and NBA Finals, and additionally CP The Fanchise stops by to talk about the New York Knicks dream season coming to an end. Let's start there: what should New York do first, get rid of Thibs or trade KAT? KOC's got an idea and it involves bringing in former NBA MVP Kevin Durant. Trade talk doesn't end there -- Kevin rattles off his top 10 biggest names that could be moved this offseason, and that list includes the likes of Kawhi Leonard, Desmond Bane, Austin Reaves, Jaylen Brown and of course Giannis. And Kevin gets into the nuts and bolts of the NBA Finals matchup itself, AND still has time to hit the NBA Draft and specifically what on earth the Spurs could do at #2 with Dylan Harper.
(0:46) Can Nembhard do to SGA what he did to Brunson?
(3:06) Will Pacers play zone defense?
(5:49) Should Knicks trade KAT?
(6:32) CP The Fanchise joins
(24:00) Will an East team go from worst to first?
(30:31) Which stars will be available for trade?
(32:11) Should the Spurs take Dylan Harper?
(34:46) Is OKC’s dynasty about to begin?
(35:08) Nick Gallo joins
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Dan Devine and Tom Haberstroh break down the historic matchup between the Indiana Pacers & Oklahoma City Thunder in the 2025 NBA Finals. With only a 1% chance of this pairing at the start of the season, the hosts dissect why both teams surged to the top, challenging long-held NBA assumptions about youth, roster continuity, and midseason trades. The conversation spotlights star performances from Tyrese Haliburton and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, plus the impact of strategic additions like Isaiah Hartenstein and Alex Caruso. The episode explores why these Finals are one of the most improbable in recent memory, what sets each team apart, and what this means for the future of team-building in the NBA.
Don’t miss the discussion on what’s next for the Minnesota Timberwolves and New York Knicks, and the unique blend of clutch play, defense, and team chemistry fueling this unlikely Finals.
(1:10) - Pacers & Thunder defy all odds to face off in the NBA Finals
(20:40) - Why Thunder excel at avoiding turnovers
(26:15) - Caruso & Hartenstein fuel OKC's defensive engine
(31:50) - Pacers: clutchest team in the NBA?
(34:50) - Pacers & Thunder have both dominated in 2025
(43:20) - What's next for the Timberwolves?
(50:00) - What's next for the Knicks?
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Do not miss this STACKED triple-header KOC Show. First up Tom Haberstroh joined Kevin following the Knicks' huge Game 5 win over the Indiana Pacers to keep hope alive. Could New York actually pull off the improbable and WIN this series now? And the guys on why Indy looked so sloppy.
Plus -- Marcus Morris is back! The longtime NBA veteran rejoined the KOC Show, and didn't hold back on anything. Kevin had Marcus play "Double Down or Walk It Back," in regard to the many HOT takes Marcus has uncorked over the last 2 months. Do the Thunder really lack the depth to win a title? Is Tyrese Haliburton the next SGA? Nikola Jokic is NOT Top 20 all-time? The Luka and LeBron pairing will definitely work? Get your popcorn ready... Marcus and KOC absolutely brought it.
Lastly Kevin's longtime pal Tate Frazier stops by to talk about the NBA Draft, which is now just a month away. Could the Spurs figure out a way to make Dylan Harper work? Is there any chance at all that the Dallas Mavericks would at least LISTEN if the Bucks called offering Giannis for #1 overall? Who are the biggest DEEP sleepers at each position? Which shooters in the Draft should the Orlando Magic target? Who should the Minnesota Timberwolves draft? Nearly every prospect that declared for the 2025 NBA Draft is discussed in some manner on this awesome convo with basketball guru Tate Frazier.
(0:37) Knicks beat Pacers in Game 5
(13:49) OKC awaits NBA Finals opponent
(25:40) Marcus Morris doubles down on his hot takes
(59:17) Tate Frazier talks 2025 NBA Draft prospects
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On this episode of Good Word with Goodwill, Vince and Dan Titus react to the Oklahoma City Thunder punching their ticket to the NBA Finals after a dominant Game 5 win over the Minnesota Timberwolves. Vince and Dan also take a look at the Thunder’s stellar defense and what changes could be coming to the Timberwolves.
Next, Vince and Dan discuss the Pacers and Knicks pivotal Game 5 at Madison Square Garden and if Jalen Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns’ defensive limitations will be too much to overcome for Tom Thibodeau.
Later, Vince and Dan assess if this current Thunder team is better than the 2012 team that went to the NBA finals and the 2016 team that almost made it.
(1:56) Thunder blowout Timberwolves, punch ticket to NBA Finals
(12:02) Thunder have the makings for a dynasty
(16:24) Timberwolves outlook for next season
(27:58) How does Thibs overcome Brunson, KAT defensive liabilities
(32:45) Do the Knicks just have a flawed roster?
(39:21) Is this Thunder team the best ever?
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On this episode of Good Word with Goodwill, Vince and James Edwards react to the Oklahoma City Thunder taking a commanding 3-1 lead against the Minnesota Timberwolves in the Western Conference Finals.
Next, Vince and James agree that the Thunder have a “Big 3” and unpack Anthony Edwards’ growing up in real time throughout this series.
Later, Vince and James take a look at the pivotal Game 4 between the New York Knicks and the Indiana Pacers and dissect the dialogue around Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Jalen Brunson being foul merchants.
(1:37) Thunder take commanding 3-1 lead against Timberwolves
(9:29) Thunder have a homegrown Big 3
(18:58) Anthony Edwards and the growing pains of being a young star
(26:42) Did Knicks find something repeatable for Game 4?
(34:44) Is Game 4 a must-win for Pacers?
(43:25) Should the NBA get rid of the take foul?
(44:57) Foul merchant NBA Finals?
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Andrew Sharp joins KOC on this episode to discuss the Oklahoma City Thunder's 3-1 lead in the WCF. Has Anthony Edwards regressed to the point of being this era's version of Playoff James Harden? Have the Thunder "big 3" emerged to the point where a title is almost guaranteed in June? Plus speaking of OKC - Kevin and Sharp wonder if SGA has officially become the greatest player to ever wear a Thunder uniform (even beyond Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook). And the guys hit the Pacers-Knicks series out east, plus talk Chris Paul news, and NBA Draft latest.
Then, Kevin sat down with Derik Queen, one of the stars of March Madness and current projected Lottery pick in this year's NBA Draft. Is he really "baby Jokic?" What does he need to work on? What sets him apart? Plus, a look back at what went through his mind during his all-time classic buzzer beater back in March.
(0:40) OKC goes up 3-1 vs. Wolves
(21:42) Could SGA be the best OKC player EVER?
(32:09) Knicks beat Pacers in Game 3
(42:13) Chris Paul won’t return to Spurs
(46:32) Brooklyn may trade Cam Johnson + picks to move up in Draft
(48:49) Who should Wizards target in NBA Draft?
(1:04:52) Draft prospect Derik Queen joins the show
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Kevin O'Connor and Tom Haberstroh saw SGA and the Oklahoma City Thunder lay the absolute smackdown on Anthony Edwards and the Wolves on Thursday evening, and both are ready to declare the series a wrap. Little hope remains for Ant and company in their 0-2 hole, and KOC takes it a step further declaring that the MVP is clearly levels better than Minnesota's young superstar.
Up next, Knicks fans: Kevin sees you, and Kevin hears you. Please sit down, get comfortable, and tell KOC how Tyrese Haliburton and Aaron Nesmith hurt you. Because that's what his friend and New York Knicks diehard fan Jonathan Macri did after the never-say-die Indiana Pacers did the unthinkable, yet again.
Plus, projected 2025 NBA Draft first-rounder Asa Newell joins Kevin O’Connor from the Combine in Chicago to break down Newell’s game as a floor-spacing, switchable big.
(0:37) Thunder vs. Wolves Game 2 reaction with Tom Haberstroh
(26:27) NBA All-Defensive Team announced
(29:36) Nuggets hire David Adleman as head coach
(31:31) Pacers beat Knicks in heartbreaking fashion
(34:07) Post-game Knicks therapy session with Jonathan Macri
(1:12:27) Asa Newell joins from the NBA Draft Combine
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On this episode of Good Word with Goodwill, Vince and Chris Hine react to the Oklahoma City Thunder’s dominant Game 1 win over the Minnesota Timberwolves and make some predictions as to what Minnesota may do differently in Game 2.
Next, Vince asks Chris about his book “Ant: The Incredible Journey of NBA Rising Star Anthony Edwards” and how his upbringing in Atlanta, Georgia has played a massive role in Edwards' career.
Later, Vince and Chris preview the Indiana Pacers vs. New York Knicks series and predict a winner before reflecting on this season’s MVP race.
(1:18) Thunder dominate Timberwolves in second half of Game 1
(9:00) Timberwolves too focused on officiating
(14:44) Game 2 adjustments for Minnesota
(17:28) Chris’ book on Anthony Edwards
(35:08) Pacers vs. Knicks preview
(29:38) Knicks vs Pacers preview
(41:49) Are you surprised Karl-Anthony Towns hasn’t succumb to NY pressure?
(43:29) Pacer vs. Knicks series prediction
(47:36) Recapping this season’s MVP race between SGA and Nikola Jokic
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Kevin O’Connor reacts to the Oklahoma City Thunder’s dominant win against the Minnesota Timberwolves in Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals. Is SGA’s grifting really as big of a deal as it’s made out to be? Or is a poor shooting effort from the Wolves more to blame for the lopsided box score? Plus, later in the episode, Kevin is joined by NBA Draft prospect Tre Johnson to break down his current game and how he expects to fit in the NBA.
(0:30) OKC beats Minnesota in Game 1
(0:41) Is SGA's grifting a big deal?
(4:03) Shocking shooting differential from Game 1
(6:57) Thunder's depth advantage vs. Wolves
(8:39) Why OKC's depth will win them this series
(13:23) Tre Johnson joins the show
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Tom Haberstroh and Dan Devine have uncovered the jaw-dropping truth: the Oklahoma City Thunder now possess "the best defense in Playoff history." The guys explain what OKC is doing to make things so uncomfortable for their opponents, and how the juggernaut defense likely won't be solved any time soon.
(1:05) - Is the Thunder defense best in postseason history?
(10:05) - Numbers behind Thunder's suffocating defense
(15:20) - Live-ball turnovers forced by Thunder defense
(19:10) - How Thunder stifled Anthony Edwards
(22:40) - Thunder shut down Wolves' corner threes
(28:10) - How will SGA's MVP win be remembered?Subscribe to the The Big Number on your favorite podcast app:
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KOC has 7 big questions to start the week, and you need to hear them all. For starters, who does Kevin have winning the Eastern Conference Finals and how? Might the Boston Celtics consider trading Jaylen Brown in a blockbuster trade to the Houston Rockets? Whose NBA Draft stock is rising, and whose is FALLING? It's all on this must-hear Monday episode of the KOC Show.
(0:43) How long until we see Nesmith on Brunson?
(3:10) Will the Knicks create a size advantage?
(5:38) Can KAT have the series of his life?
(7:14) Can Haliburton reach a new level?
(10:14) What changes should the Celtics make?
(18:12) Who are Draft Combine fallers?
(20:08) Who are Draft Combine risers?
(24:06) Kon Knueppel & KOC from the Combine in Chicago
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On this episode of Good Word with Goodwill, Vince and David Dennis Jr. give their final thoughts on the Denver Nuggets season before turning their attention to the Minnesota Timberwolves and Oklahoma City Thunder series and who has the most to gain between Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Anthony Edwards.
Next, Vince and David assess the New York Knicks vs. Indiana Pacers series and why it could go seven games.
Later, Vince and David discuss what the Boston Celtics should do next season with Jayson Tatum sidelined and the good and bad of the NBA Playoffs thus far.
(1:25) Nuggets outlook after Game 7 loss
(10:39) Who has the most to gain from Thunder vs. Wolves series?
(17:00) How important is Julius Randle in this series?
(19:39) Rest or rhythm?
(21:14)Have the Thunder grown up enough for this moment?
(27:43) Jalen Brunson has the opportunity to be immortalized as a Knick
(29:38) Knicks vs Pacers preview
(36:14) What do Celtics do next season with Tatum likely out the entire year?
(43:04) What do we make of the playoffs so far?
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KOC's live, postgame reaction to Game 7 between the Denver Nuggets and Oklahoma City Thunder! OKC dismantled the hapless Nuggets, are they primed to do the same to the Minnesota Timberwolves? Dane Moore, who covers the Wolves, joins KOC to break down what's to come in the Western Conference Finals -- plus the pair on whether MAJOR changes are coming for Nikola Jokic's squad this offseason.
(0:57) Dane Moore joins the show
(1:20) Thunder beat Nuggets in Game 7
(11:54) Thunder vs. Wolves Western Conference Finals preview
(32:55) What’s next for the Nuggets?
(48:59) Western Conference Finals preview continued
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KOC is joined by Tom Haberstroh on this INSANE edition of The Kevin O'Connor Show. The guys both think it's well within the realm of possibilities that COOPER FLAGG could pull an Eli Manning, and demand his way to the Boston Celtics. Kevin has sources that told him Flagg met with the Celtics at the Draft Combine in Chicago! Plus KOC absolutely destroys "Playoff Jimmy" Butler, and explains why Golden State is in trouble for years to come. And of course, the guys preview Sunday's Game 7 between the Denver Nuggets and Oklahoma City Thunder, plus Tom and Kevin on why the Boston Celtics are still VERY MUCH ALIVE vs the New York Knicks.
(0:53) Nuggets force Game 7 vs. Thunder
(14:26) Wolves advance to Western Conference Finals
(20:05) Is ‘Playoff Jimmy’ a myth?
(28:34) What’s next for the Warriors?
(36:46) Celtics vs. Knicks Game 6 preview
(42:15) Boston interviews Cooper Flagg at NBA Draft Combine
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On this episode of Good Word with Goodwill, Vince and Dan Titus react to the Minnesota Timberwolves eliminating the Golden State Warriors in Game 5 by giving credit to Julius Randle’s consistent play in the postseason and then discuss what the future looks like for the Warriors.
Next, Vince and Dan debate if the pressure is on for the New York Knicks after losing Game 5 to the Boston Celtics and what would be the reaction if New York blew a 3-1 lead.
Later, Vince and Dan decide if the era of LeBron James, Kevin Durant and Stephen Curry has finally come to an end as younger stars continue to elevate.
(1:51) Vince apologizes to Julius Randle
(4:44) Outlook for the Warriors moving forward
(20:27) Celtics beat Knicks in Game 5
(28:11) What if the Knicks blow a 3-1 lead?
(30:45) Knicks should go after Giannis
(35:50) Cavaliers have another disappointing playoff run
(47:14) Nikola Jokic could use some help against the Thunder
(54:24) End of the LeBron, KD, Curry era?
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Kevin O'Connor is joined by the legendary NBA Draft guru Jonathan Givony on this edition of the KOC Show from the Chicago Combine. KOC pays tribute to Michael Jordan and hits Givony with exactly 23 NBA Draft Questions. Could Ace Bailey be a bust for the 76ers? Which player is the best shooter in this class? Who's more likely to trade up, the Wizards or Jazz? What should the Bulls do, period? And Cooper Flagg is the best college prospect since WHO??
Plus, Cedric Coward joins to break down his remarkable rise from DIII basketball to NBA draft prospect. Cedric explains what's special about his game, shares lessons learned from his Olympic gold-medalist grandfather, his NBA player comps (including Kawhi Leonard) and what drives his obsession with basketball.
(0:53) 23 questions with Jonathan Givony
(1:00) Questions 1-5
(8:38) Questions 6-10
(18:55) Questions 11-15
(25:03) Questions 16-20
(31:08) Questions 21-23
(35:19) Cedric Coward joins
(44:58) How would Cedric describe his game?
(59:58) Reaction to Luka traded to Lakers
(1:02:04) NBA Playoffs breakdown
(1:04:49) Best basketball memories
(1:08:01) 7 random questions with Cedric Coward
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Kevin O’Connor is joined by NBA draft expert Rafael Barlowe from Chicago to break down how the NBA playoffs’ rise in physical play is shifting their 2025 draft boards and prospect evaluations. They spotlight prospects like Cedric Coward and Jase Richardson and debate whether double-big lineups could become the NBA’s next big trend. The pair also break down how NIL has reshaped the draft pool, leaving it older and deeper with late withdrawals.
(0:35) OKC takes series lead vs. Denver
(2:46) Pacers advance to Eastern Conf Finals
(5:23) Rafael Barlowe joins
(5:32) Impact of playoffs on draft evaluations
(6:44) Evaluation of Cedric Coward
(8:26) Evaluation of Jase Richardson
(11:18) Evaluation of Colin Murray-Boyles
(16:04) Is Dallas certain to draft Cooper Flagg?
(18:55) What should Spurs do with #2?
(20:47) Evaluation of Thomas Sorber
(23:50) Evaluation of Maxime Raynaud
(25:50) Impact of NIL on NBA Draft
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