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  • In this episode, Lola interviews ordained priest and writer Shannon Kearns.


    Shannon TL Kearns is a transgender man who believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. He's the co-founder of QueerTheology.com and his first book, In the Margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture was published by Eerdmaan’s books. He was the founder and Artistic Director of Uprising Theatre Company in Minneapolis. Shannon is a recipient of the Playwrights’ Center Jerome Fellowship in 20/21 and he was a Lambda Literary Fellow for 2019 (in playwriting) and 2022 (screenwriting) and a Finnovation Fellow for 2019/2020. He is a sought after speaker on transgender issues and religion as well as a skilled facilitator of a variety of workshops. His work with Brian G. Murphy at QueerTheology.com has reached more than a million people all over the world through videos, articles, and online courses and community. 

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    Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!


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  • This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Wild Olive Podcast. Check them out!


    This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free. Jason recommends trying the Gourmet Breakfast Blend!


    In this episode, the crew talks about how we can know when it's time to walk away from a toxic religious environment.


    The crew welcomes Instagrammer, YouTuber, and soon-to-be author, Laci Bean to the show to unpack her spiritual journey.


    You can follow Laci on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.


    Laci will be speaking at Awaken Nashville 2023. Register now before all the tickets are gone!

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    Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.


    Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!


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  • This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book, Drugs and Jesus, by Joshua Lawson which is available now!


    This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free. Jason recommends trying the Tanzania!


    In this episode, the crew talks about how we can live more authentically as our true selves and some common obstacles to being who we really are.


    Jason interviews author Karen Shock. Karen is the author of the brand-new book, Too Much and Not Enough: Sacred Thoughts Said Out Loud" which releases on April 18, 2023. You definitely do not want to miss this book! It's absolutely incredible! Be sure to be on the look-out for Karen's new podcast "Sacred Thoughts Said Out Loud" coming soon!


    You can follow Karen on Facebook and Instagram.

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    Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.


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  • In this introductory episode of his brand-new podcast, Jason Elam discusses the need for a wholesale re-evaluation of our parenting methods in light of spiritual deconstruction. 


    You can purchase a copy of the book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, here.


    Please follow Parenting Deconstructed on Facebook and Instagram.


    Up next: Chapter One featuring Keith Giles, releasing Friday, April 7th, 2023.


    Please be sure to follow or subscribe to "Parenting Deconstructed-The Podcast" on your podcasting app of choice. Thank you!


    This episode was brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where specialty grade, single-origin beans are perfectly roasted and shipped the same day giving you the freshest coffee available. Shipping is always free to U.S. addresses! Use code "Family" for 15% off your first order.

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  • This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Story of Christianity Told As Good News for All by Ric Machuga which is available now!


    This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free.


    In this episode, the crew talks about substance use disorder, harm reduction, and how people of faith can respond more compassionately.


    For insight on this, Jason talks to Joshua Lawson who has written two books on the subject. Josh lives with his family in southern Ohio, where he works in a variety of roles to support and empower the most vulnerable members of his community. His experience in Christian ministry spans the gamut from house church facilitator to small group director to lead pastor. After serving in both evangelical and progressive circles for two decades, he stepped away from formal ministry to live and work as a regular human being.


    Be sure to pick up Josh's books, The Face of Addiction and Drugs and Jesus (releasing April 11).


    You can follow Josh on Facebook.. Subscribe to Josh's Substack here.


    Josh is also a co-author of the compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with also includes chapters from some of your favorite heretics!

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  • Hey, everyone. Jason here again. I got so much great feedback from the "Jesus the Mystic" message that I did a couple of weeks ago, that I decided to turn it into a series. Here is the second installment, "Are You Ready to Get Unstuck?".


    Sometimes, the way out of our rut is simpler than we think.


    What is your next step to getting unstuck? We'd love to hear from you in our Messy Conversations group on Facebook.


    By the way, the Robcast episode that I refer to in this message can be found here. It's the best argument I've heard against cancel culture and very much worth considering.


    If you'd prefer, you can watch the video of this episode on our Youtube channel.

    Recommended Reading:

    Jesus’ Alternative Plan by Richard Rohr

    Returning to Eden by Heather Hamilton

    Referred to in this episode:

    The Wisdom of Hobbits by Matthew J. Distefano

    Parenting Deconstructed Compiled by Jason and Brandi Elam

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  • This Quoircast podcast episode if brought to you by Keith Giles' latest book, Sola Mysterium: Celebrating the Beautiful Uncertainty of Everything. Order your copy of this groundbreaking book today!


    This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co. Use promo code "Messy" for 20% off of your first order!


    In this conversation, Lola, Kyle, and Jason are joined by publisher, author, and podcaster Matthew J. Distefano to discuss finding inspiration among the hobbits of J.R.R. Tolkien's Shire.


    Matthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple books, including the wildly popular Heretic! and From the Blood of Abel. He is an audio engineer, the producer of the Heretic Happy Hour podcast, cohost of Apostates Anonymous, and is a regular columnist for Patheos. He holds an undergraduate degree in Education from California State University, Chico. Matthew enjoys gardening, bicycling, and European football. He is a huge Tolkien nerd who one day hopes to live in Bag End with his wife and daughter. You can find his work at allsetfree.com.


    Be sure to check out Matt's brand-new book, The Wisdom of Hobbits, when it releases on March 14, 2023!

    Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.


    Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!

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    You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok


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    You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).


    Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.


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  • This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book "What Can't Be Hidden" by Brandon Andess. Order your copy today here.


    In this new episode, Lola, Kyle, and Jason welcome Quoir Publishers and authors Matthew J. Distefano and Keith Giles for a conversation about censorship and its' high cost for society.


    Books you are going to want to check out after listening to this episode:

    The Kingdom of God is Within You by Leo Tolstoy

    Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll

    A Spring Harvest by Geoffrey Bache Smith

    Sola Mysterium by Keith Giles

    The Wisdom of Hobbits by Matthew J. Distefano (releasing March 14)

    Returning to Eden: a field guide for the spiritual journey by Heather Hamilton


    Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.


    Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!

    Follow the crew:

    You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok


    You can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.


    You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok.


    Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!


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  • Hey, everyone! Jason here. I was in the car for 10 hours yesterday and had bursts of conversation with God. I took some notes to share with you. This one is a little out there and might stretch some of my evangelical friends. Please stick with me. I think you'll like where we end up.

    In this talk, I discuss:The need to separate Jesus the first-century teacher from the religious icon passed down to us.The first century understanding of some of Jesus' key teachings.What forgiveness and loving our enemies really look like.The value of surrenderWhat it really means to be "woke".

    I hope you'll find this talk helpful. If so, please let me know. I'd love to hear from you in the comments at MessySpirituality.org.

    Suggested reading:

    How to Be An Anti-Racist by Ibram X Kendi

    Returning to Eden by Heather Hamilton

    Solo Mysterium by Keith Giles

    The Universal Christ by Richard Rohr

    The Universe Has Your Back by Gabrielle Bernstein

    Parenting Deconstructed compiled by Jason and Brandi Elam

    Question for discussion in the comments:

    What is your place of surrender?


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  • In this brand-new episode, Jason speaks with author Heather Hamilton about her spiritual journey, mystical experiences that change our lives, and her brilliant new book, Returning to Eden.


    Heather Hamilton received her B.A. in Journalism from Georgia State University and spent many years doing video production before discovering her love of writing. After filming and editing stories with people from all over the world—celebrities, orphans, religious leaders, royal family members, political figures, and everyday people—Heather recognized the common threads and themes intertwining all humans across religions, cultures, classes, and demographics. She is passionate about fostering human connection through storytelling, writing, art, and exchanging ideas. She lives in Atlanta with her husband and three children.


    You can purchase her new book, Returning to Eden, on Kindle, in paperback, or in audiobook format here.


    Be sure to visit Heather's website and connect with Heather on Facebook and Instagram.


    Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.


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  • This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the This is Not Church podcast featuring our friends Jon and Nat Turney. If you're not listening to them already you should definitely check them out!


    In this episode of Messy Spirituality, Jason interviews author and former pastor Kevin Sweeney about his spiritual journey and the hidden power of letting go. You're going to love this conversation!


    Be sure to check out Kevin's books The Making of a Mystic and The Joy of Letting Go.


    Kevin Sweeney was co-founder and lead pastor of Imagine Church—an urban church in Honolulu that is welcoming of all people, sees imagination as the key to the future, chooses authenticity over performance, substance over hype, and quality over quantity. 

    He is the host of podcast “The Church Needs Therapy” and lives In Honolulu with his wife and co-founder of Imagine, Christine, and their two kids, True and Mikayla.


    You can follow Kevin on Facebook and Instagram.


    Be sure to follow Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter as well.


    Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group and follow the show on Facebook and Twitter!


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  • This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the Heretic Happy Hour podcast. If you're not listening to the granddaddy of all destruction podcasts you definitely ought to check them out!


    In this episode of Messy Spirituality, Lola interviews Canadian born artist, Bri Shaw, about her life and work. You're going to love this conversation!


    You can follow Bri on Instagram and follow her art page here. You can get one of Bri's prints for free by following Birmingham Free Art.


    Be sure to follow Lola on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well!


    Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.


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  • This episode is sponsored by the incredible book Divine Echoes by Dr. Mark Gregory Harris. If you haven't already read this book you're missing out!


    In today's episode, Jason speaks with Brent Schebler of Ink Drinker Editing and Literary Services about his spiritual journey and some of his favorite reads of 2022.


    Books mentioned in this episode:

    The Shack by William Paul Young

    Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind

    The Hidden Lives of Trees

    Kissing With Eyes Wide Open

    Solo Mysterium

    Blue Like Jazz

    I'm Glad My Mom Died

    Green Lights

    Night

    The Black Klansman

    The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon

    11-22-63

    Under the Dome

    Never

    Verity

    Night Monsters

    The Wish


    Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.


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  • This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by our friends at the Heretic Happy Hour podcast! Check them out wherever you listen to podcasts!


    On this episode, Jason interviews returning guest Brad Jersak to discuss reframing the conversation about deconstruction and its impact.


    Brad Jersak is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He currently serves as the Dean of Theology & Culture at St. Stephen’s University (SSU.ca/graduate) in New Brunswick and teaches peace studies courses with IRPJ.org and is a regular speaker with the Open Table Conference crew.

    He writes regularly for the Clarion Journal and CWR magazine.


    You can order Brad's new book, Out of the Embers, here and follow him on Facebook


    Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.


    Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!

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    You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok


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  • This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by the Ideas Digest podcast from two Aussie blokes-Konrad and Matt. Check them out!


    On this episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss our current understandings/beliefs about angels, demons, and the spirit realm. Auntie Lola also has an all new WTF Bible Story that you're gonna love.


    During our interview segment, Jason interviews author Eric English who recently released a new book entitled, "UNnlightenment: A Theological Foundation for Deconstructing and Reconstructing the Christian Faith".


    Eric Scot English writes the UNenlightenment column for Patheos Progressive Christian. Eric also hosts a podcast called UNenlightenment where he interviews leading thinkers in the Christian faith about various topics associated with progressive Christianity and evangelicalism. Eric holds advanced degrees in philosophy and theology. Eric lives in the Grand Rapids, MI area with his wife Cynthia, and their three children.


    You can order Eric's new book here and follow him on Facebook


    Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.


    Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!

    Follow the crew:

    You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok


    You can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.


    You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok.


    Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!


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  • This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by the Ideas Digest podcast from two Aussie blokes-Konrad and Matt. Check them out!


    On this episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss what makes each of them grateful. Auntie Lola also has an all new WTF Bible Story that will make all the ladies very grateful.


    During our interview segment, Jason interviews author Daniel Henderson who recently released "Confessions of a Recovering Evangelical".


    With a 40 year career in education, Daniel Henderson has the grounding of being a life-long mid-westerner, and having traveled extensively. His teaching career in the field of history and religion has given many of his students inspiration and motivation to pursue their own careers in these fields. Dan has traveled to Europe and Central America and all over the United States. He has a passion for history and historic sites. He is currently publishing a personal story of his own faith journey called, "Confessions of a Recovering Evangelical" available today from Quoir.


    You can order Dan's new book here and follow him on Facebook.


    Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.


    Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!

    Follow the crew:

    You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok


    You can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.


    You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.


    Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!


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  • This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by This is Not Church podcast featuring our good friends Jon and Nat Turney. Check them out!


    On this episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss what each of them think might happen after we die. Auntie Lola also has a very spooky Halloween edition of WTF Bible Stories.


    During our interview segment, Jason interviews poet Darrell Epp about life, art, and art's impact on the world.


    Darrell Epp is a poet, freelance journalist, and playwright whose work has appeared widely in magazines around the world, including Maisonneuve, Poetry Nottingham, Sub-Terrain, and The Saranac Review. Born in Toronto, he currently resides in Hamilton, Ontario where he earns a living locking up trains for CN Rail.


    You can order Darrell's new book here and find him on Facebook and Twitter.


    Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.

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    You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok


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  • This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by This is Not Church podcast featuring our good friends Jon and Nat Turney. They drop new episodes every Monday and their latest episode features none other than our own Lola Robbins!


    This brand new episode features:

    A big announcement worthy of celebration!A special Halloween edition of "Auntie Lola's WTF Bible Stories"An interview with recording artist and all-around badass Hailey Dixon!A conversation about what happens to those who commit suicide.

    Hailey Dixon is a writer, songstress and a woman with a bone to pick with the American evangelical church. Growing up queer and with a severe mental disability, Hailey often felt rejected not only by the god she grew up with, but by the church as a whole. She escaped a cult only to be brought down by what others assumed were good, healthy churches. Now Hailey lives to tell the tale by writing songs that feel like worship music with just a hint of sacrilege.


    You can listen to Hailey's music here and follow her on Facebook and Instagram.


    If you’re struggling to hang on, please call or text 988 from any cell phone to talk to a professional counselor who can help.


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  • This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by This is Not Church podcast featuring our good friends Jon and Nat Turney. They drop new episodes every Monday so check them out!


    In this new episode, Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss ballot initiatives in several states that seek to end forced labor in U.S. prisons and lingering racial injustice in the United States.


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    Please take a minute to like our Facebook page and follow/friend all of our hosts on social media!


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    We'll be back with a new episode every two weeks! Thanks for listening to the podcast. We love having you with us on this journey!

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  • In this conversation, Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss the news regarding Matt Chandler, lead pastor of The Village Church in Flower Mound, TX who recently stepped down due to what he referred to as "non-sexual, non-romantic, unwise course joking" with a female via direct messages. We look at how the situation was handled and the questions raised by the church's response.


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    You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok


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    Please rate and review this show on your podcast platform of choice. That really does help us find our way to new ears!


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    We'll be back with a new episode every two weeks! Thanks for listening to the podcast. We love having you with us on this journey!

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