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  • We're back with another premium episode rerelease for the public, this time a rewatch and recap of a Dateline episode with our favorite reporter, Keith Morrison. If you haven't subscribed for TCB premium ad-free and bonus episodes, maybe you should? Just something to consider! Happy Holidays!

    Larry Isenberg disappeared on Feb. 13, 2018 while out on his boat on Lake Coeur d'Alene in Northern Idaho with his wife Lori. Lori claimed that Larry fell into the water while trying to fix a broken motor. She cried, insisting she'd done all she could to save him. But according to Lori, she'd tripped and hit her head, so it took her over an hour to call for help. There was sympathy for the new widow initially, but when it comes out that Lori was embezzling money from her job, suspicions came up about whether Larry's death really was an accident.

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  • Engaged Swedish couple Heidi Birgitta Paakkonen and Sven Urban Höglin were in their early twenties when they disappeared on a visit to New Zealand back in 1989. They were on an adventure, backpacking through the bush that April, and they were reported missing that May.

    Join us at the quiet end for The Swedish Tourist Murders. Heidi and Urban were due home on May 7, but no one had heard from them in over a month. Interpol was notified of the couple’s failure to return. Looking into the matter, they discovered that the couple had not boarded their flight home. It was out of character for them not to contact their families, so they were worried that the couple could have been victims of foul play. These concerns grew after they learned that a convicted killer was on the loose in the area where they were last seen.

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  • This is a public rerelease of a members-only episode from last spring. Hope you enjoy it! If you would like more episodes like this, without ads, check out tiegrabber.com/subscribe or visit our Patreon page at patreon.com/tiegrabber.

    On Nov 2, 2016, 34-year-old Sherri Papini was jogging near her home in Redding, CA. She was apparently kidnapped sometime between 11am and 2pm. When her husband Keith came home from work that afternoon, she wasn’t home and hadn’t picked up their two children. Keith located her phone by using the find my iphone app. It was about a mile from their house, sitting on the side of the road with a set of headphones and several strands of blonde hair. But there was no sign of Sherri.

    Join us at the quiet end for The Sherri Papini Kidnapping Hoax. On Thanksgiving, after being missing for 3 weeks, Sherri showed up about 150 miles away from where she had disappeared. She was chained, bruised, and branded. So, what had happened to Sherri? It would take years to fully understand this event, but investigators were suspicious of Sherri's story from the get go!

    Sources

    "FBI affidavit unravels astounding claims about California mom Sherri Papini", SFGate.com, Katie Dowd, 3/6/2022, Retrieved 3/5/2024.

    Sherri Papini: Lies, Lies, and more Lies, Oxygen Network, 12/18/2022

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  • So, now we're back for part two of the fascinating and disturbing case of convicted child killer Lucy Letby. Since part one, we have reviewed interviews with her accusers, her defenders, scientific experts, and nurses who either worked in neonatal units, in the Countess of Chester neonatal unit, or worked directly with Lucy Letby. We have also read the available evidence and testimony from her trial.

    Join us at the quiet end for Lucy Letby: The Common Denominator Part Two. Today, we are going to talk you through Letby's trials and what has been going on since her convictions. Dick's been doing his homework, too, and he will share his interpretations of the statistical and medical evidence, outcomes, and published opinions surrounding the case.

    Sources

    A British Nurse Was Found Guilty of Killing Seven Babies, Did She Do It? The New Yorker, Rachel Aviv, 5/13/2024.

    Countess of Chester Hospital: Woman held in baby deaths probe, BBC News, 7/3/2018.

    Lucy Letby: how did a nurse commit such unthinkable murders? The Guardian, 8/18/2023.

    Lucy Letby: The Complete Story by Katherine Smith, 2023.

    Lucy Letby whistleblower says babies would have lived if hospital had acted sooner, The Guardian, Josh Halliday, 8/18/2023.

    The King v. Lucy Letby, Sentencing Remarks, Honorable Mr. Justice Goss Kt., 8/21/2023.

    Panorama, Lucy Letby: The Nurse Who Killed, BBC One TV documentary, 8/21/2023.

    Revealed: the files that show how Lucy Letby was treated as a victim, The Times, Shaun Lintern & David Collins, 8/20/2023.

    Sudden unexpected neonatal death in the first week of life: Autopsy findings from a specialist centre, The Journal of Maternal-Fetal & Neonatal Medicine, Martin A. Weber, Michael T. Ashworth, Anthony R. Risdon, Ivan Brooke, Marian Malone, Neil J. Sebire, 2009.

    What I learned about Lucy Letby after 10 months in court, BBC News, Judith Moritz, 8/24/2023.

    What is the evidence against Lucy Letby? Five key points that convicted baby killer, YorkshireLive, Sophie Corcoran, 8/24/2023.

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  • This is a bonus episode released last summer for subscribers only. We thought we'd share this on the public feed for those of you needing an escape from the upcoming holiday stress. Hope you enjoy our discussion!

    Cullen Davis was a man who believed that money could buy anything. And he may have been right. His life, loves, and even his crimes show this to be true. In the 1970s, Davis, a wealthy oil tycoon from Texas, was accused of murder. The first incident occurred in August 1976, when there was a deadly shooting inside his estranged wife’s Fort Worth mansion. In the second incident, he was charged with hiring a hitman and conspiring to kill 15 people.

    Join us at the quiet end for A Perversion of Justice. Cullen Davis would become known for getting away with the criminal charges against him, thanks to the best defense his money could buy. But to many, the evidence against him was overwhelming. So, where and why did the justice system fail so miserably?

    Sources

    Blood Will Tell: The Murder Trials of T. Cullen Davis by Gary Cartwright, 1979.

    Rich Man, Dead Man, Texas Monthly, Gary Cartwright, 1977, retrieved 7/5/2024.

    A Texas Oil Dynasty: The Family Tree of T. Cullen Davis, Genealogy Magazine, Pylant, James, 4/3/2007, retrieved 7/2/2024.

    Texas vs. Davis: The Only Complete Account of the Bizarre Thomas Cullen Davis Murder Case by Mike Cochran, 1980.

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  • In this previously released for members-only episode, Jill & Dick recap and discuss the ID docuseries The Lost Women of Highway 20. We recommend that you watch it first, but you can definitely follow the story by just listening to the podcast.

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  • When British nurse Lucy Letby went on trial in 2023, the case against her seemed overwhelming. She was charged with 22 murders and attempted murders in the neonatal unit where she worked at Countess of Chester Hospital. The case centered on an abnormally high number of deaths between June 2015 and June 2016. Although no one ever saw Lucy harming a baby and the coroner did not find foul play in any of their deaths, thousands of pieces of evidence were gathered to convict her. In August of 2023, Lucy was sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole.

    Join us at the quiet end for Lucy Letby: The Common Denominator, Part One. At her sentencing, the judge said that Lucy had committed a cruel, calculated, and cynical campaign of child murder involving the smallest and most vulnerable of children. A public inquiry was ordered to discern how Lucy Letby was able to commit her crimes and how the hospital failed to protect babies. But she maintains that she is innocent and there are questions about the statistical evidence used to convict her and the working conditions on the unit. Is Lucy Letby the cruel, calculated killer that the jury found her to be, or could she be the victim of a false conviction?

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    Sources

    A British Nurse Was Found Guilty of Killing Seven Babies, Did She Do It? The New Yorker, Rachel Aviv, 5/13/2024.

    Countess of Chester Hospital: Woman held in baby deaths probe, BBC News, 7/3/2018.

    Lucy Letby: how did a nurse commit such unthinkable murders? The Guardian, 8/18/2023.

    Lucy Letby: The Complete Story by Katherine Smith, 2023.

    Lucy Letby whistleblower says babies would have lived if hospital had acted sooner, The Guardian, Josh Halliday, 8/18/2023.

    The King v. Lucy Letby, Sentencing Remarks, Honorable Mr. Justice Goss Kt., 8/21/2023.

    Panorama, Lucy Letby: The Nurse Who Killed, BBC One TV documentary, 8/21/2023.

    Revealed: the files that show how Lucy Letby was treated as a victim, The Times, Shaun Lintern & David Collins, 8/20/2023.

    Sudden unexpected neonatal death in the first week of life: Autopsy findings from a specialist centre, The Journal of Maternal-Fetal & Neonatal Medicine, Martin A. Weber, Michael T. Ashworth, Anthony R. Risdon, Ivan Brooke, Marian Malone, Neil J. Sebire, 2009.

    What I learned about Lucy Letby after 10 months in court, BBC News, Judith Moritz, 8/24/2023.

    What is the evidence against Lucy Letby? Five key points that convicted baby killer, YorkshireLive, Sophie Corcoran, 8/24/2023.

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  • The van Breda family enjoyed wealth, travel, and the love of friends and family. They travelled together, had apparently enviable relationships, and the children were educated at some of the best schools from around the world. All five family members were living what seemed like a dream life in a high-security, luxury estate just outside Stellenbosch, South Africa. But everything changed for them overnight in late January of 2015.

    Join us at the quiet end for What Marli Forgot: The van Breda Axe Murders. The gruesome murders of patriarch Martin, his wife Teresa, and their adult son Rudi shocked South Africa. A bloody axe, identified as coming from the van Breda residence, was recovered at the scene. But there was no indication of forced entry or an outside assailant. Could it have been that a member of the family was responsible for the violence that night? The youngest child, 16-year-old Marli, had no recollection of what happened that night. But her 20-year-old brother, Henri, who remembered details from that night, had a story to tell.

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    Sources

    As it happened: Henri van Breda pre-trial postponed, News24, 9/9/2016, retrieved 10/19/2024

    The De Zalze Murders: The Story Behind the Brutal Axe Attack by Julian JansenHenri van Breda guilty of triple axe murders, News24, 5/21/2018, retrieved 10/20/2024

    THE HIGH COURT OF SOUTH AFRICA (WESTERN CAPE DIVISION, CAPE TOWN) Case No: SS17/16 THE STATE v HENRI CHRISTO VAN BREDA, retrieved 10/24/2024

    The Killer Within: Why Did Henri van Breda Murder His Family? 60 Minutes Australia, 2018, retrieved 10/25/2024

    Murder-Accused van Breda Claims He Saw Axe-Wielding Attacker Kill His Dad, Huffington Post, 4/24/2017, retrieved 10/22/2024

    Listen to the emergency call: Henri van Breda call

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  • When 15-year-old Holly Harvey’s grandparents forbade her from spending time with her 16-year-old lover, Sandy, both Holly and Sandy grew bitter and antagonistic. Carl and Sarah Collier loved their out-of-control granddaughter, who they were raising while her mother was in prison. Carl and Sarah did not give up on Holly, but then they began to fear her.

    Join us at the quiet end for To-Do List. Holly and Sandy plotted against her grandparents. They asked around for a gun, made a to-do list, and told their friends about their horrific plans. Then, one hot summer night, the two teens put their plans into action. There was nothing spontaneous about the horrors they unleashed that night. In fact, their cold-blooded acts even shocked the most seasoned detectives on the case.

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  • Just three years after Thomas Keir told everyone that his first wife Jean had left him and their young son behind to be with another man, his second wife Rosalina was found dead and severely burned on her bed. Keir’s claims to be unlucky and grief-stricken were questioned by investigators as well as family, friends, and members of the media. Could the suspicious deaths of two wives be just bad luck or a strange coincidence?

    Join us at the quiet end for The Two Wives of Thomas Keir. Thomas Keir was a man so jealous that he had hated for even his own child to touch his wife. His possessiveness was expressed with threats that he would cut her up and feed her to the dogs if she ever left him. Police finally found seven small fragments of Jean’s bones buried under the same house in which Rosalina died. This is the story of two wives, two murders, and a long, difficult fight to get justice for them and their families.

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  • On the afternoon of June 26, 2010, a Pennsylvania State Trooper witnessed a car driving erratically. It sped past him and crashed into a tree. Stopping to help, he found the driver alive and covered in blood. When asked what happened, the man answered: "I just killed everybody."

    Join us at the quiet end for Evil Out on Parole. Not far from the accident, police found a gruesome massacre. Then they learned that the man responsible had already been convicted of murder before and had been out on parole for just two months. Now, convicted killer Michael Ballard had used his freedom to murder four more innocent people, including an ex-girlfriend who had become his obsession.

    Sources

    Death Penalty 101: Why it's (almost) impossible to execute someone in Pennsylvania, and what's next, Billy Penn, 1/15/2015

    Fatal Jealousy by Colin McEvoy

    Man Who Stabbed 4 People Should Have Been in Prison: DA says four people would still be alive if suspect served a full sentence, NBCPhiladelphia.com, Teresa Masterson, 6/27/2010

    Northampton DA pushes to set execution date for death row inmate Michael Ballard, Lehighvalleylive.com, Kurt Bresswein, 6/24/2015

    Northampton Killer Sentenced to Die: Jury sentences Michael Ballard to die for quadruple killing, Patch.com, Josh Popichak, 5/17/2011

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  • Back in the winter of 1985, two friends from Detroit set out on a hunting trip in rural Michigan. Brian Ognjan and David Tyll, both 27-years-old, had been looking forward to this trip and had planned it for weeks. But somewhere along the way, the hunters became the hunted. They vanished somewhere in the bitter cold, leaving behind a legacy of grief and confusion.

    Join us at the quiet end for Into the Cold. On November 22, Brian and David headed out for David's family cabin in White Cloud. David picked up Brian, Brian cashed a check, and they left. They thought that they might stop to visit a friend along the way. But they never arrived at the cabin or the friend's home. In fact, they were never seen again. And David's vehicle, a 1980 black Ford Bronco, has never been found either.

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  • Back in the summer of 1973, the Houston Police were called to a home where a 33-year-old man named Dean Corll had been shot to death. This crime scene led them to search a shed he had been renting and a wooded area nearby. Finally, the community would learn what had happened to their missing boys. And the details would haunt them for the rest of their lives.

    Join us at the quiet end for The Candy Man Killer and the Lost Boys of Houston Heights. In December 1970, two teenaged boys disappeared from the Heights neighborhood in Houston. Then more went missing, one after another. As the number of missing kids grew, people had no idea that a sadistic serial killer and his teenage accomplices were living among them. The police had been telling parents not to worry—their sons had simply run away to join a commune or find work. But the truth was heartbreaking, and the impact is still felt today.

    Sources

    Effort Continues to Identify Last Known Victim in Killing Spree, Houston Chronicle, Monica Rohr, 2014.

    Filmmakers May have Discovered New Victim of 1970s Mass Murders, ABC13 News, Ted Oberg, 2012.

    The Lost Boys, Texas Monthly, Skip Hollandsworth, 2011.

    The Man with Candy by Jack Olsen

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  • Carol Montecalvo was a devoted Christian who married her prison pen pal. Once he was released, they seemed happy. But on the evening of March 31, 1988, Carol and her husband Dan were shot. Dan survived. Carol was killed. After Carol’s death, Dan told police that, on the night of the shooting, he and Carol went for a walk together around the neighborhood. When they returned to the house, Carol was shot to death by an intruder. Dan suffered a non-life-threatening gunshot wound.

    Join us at the quiet end for Death of a Prison Bride. Dan claimed that he found his wife bleeding on the floor of their home that night. And evidence in the Montecalvo home seemed to support a burglary gone wrong--- until it didn’t. Investigators became suspicious of Dan when they learned of his extensive criminal past, his large gambling debts, and the $600,000 in life insurance he held on Carol’s life. So, did Dan find God or did Carol just find herself an evil man?

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    Sources

    Burbank Man Guilty of Murdering Wife: Jury decides that ex-convict killed his spouse to collect her insurance, Los Angeles Times, Jesse Katz, 11/6/1990

    Final Vows by Karen Kingsbury, 2013

    The Perfect Murder, Murder by the Book, S3 E9, 7/27/2016

    Tardy Confession: Woman Says Convicted Man Didn't Kill His Wife, Los Angeles Times, Victor Merina, 1/6/1991

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  • Emile Cilliers tried to murder his wife Victoria by sabotaging her parachute, but that was not his first attempt to kill her. Emile had a long history of lying, stealing, and having extramarital affairs. He also had a temper. Victoria knew that her husband was often dishonest and emotionally closed off, but she desperately wanted to keep her family together for the sake of their children. She could not even imagine that the father of her children would want her dead.

    Join us at the quiet end for The Parachute Murder Plot. Things were far from ideal in the Cilliers marriage, but Victoria was in love and unaware of much of what was going on behind her back. Emile liked to spend money on anonymous sex, frivolous luxuries, and vacations with his girlfriend. He took out high interest payday loans and skimmed money from Victoria’s bank account, all the while gaslighting her into thinking she was emotionally unstable. But as Victoria worried about her troubled marriage, Emile gave her bits of hope. He used her love for her family as a weapon against her and set her up for a terrifying death.

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    Chute to Kill: Jealous Belgian Skydiver Convicted of Murder, Time, Leo Cendrowicz, 11/30/2019

    Els Clottemans, Belgian Skydiver Who Doctored Parachute of Love Rival Gets 30 Years, The Huffington Post, Robert Wielaard, 10/21/2010

    The Fall: Skydive Murder Plot, Channel4UK, 5/28/2024

    How Often do Parachutes Fail? Skydive Monroe, https://skydivemonroe.com/blog/parachute-fails-to-open-when-skydiving/, 8/23/2023

    Inside the world of parachute murder plotter who was jailed for life for trying to kill his wife, https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/parachute-murder-channel-4-documentary-victoria-cilliers-emile-skydive-the-fall/, 6/11/2024

    I Survived by Victoria Cilliers 2020

    The Parachute Murder Plot, All3Media, with Fiona, 2018

    Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma related to gravitational challenge: systematic review of randomised controlled trials. BMJ, GC Smith & JP Pell, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC300808/, 12/20/2003

    Sex, lies and payday loans: The parachute murder plot, BBC.com, Bethen Bell, 6/15/2028

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  • Christa Worthington was a Vassar grad from a prominent family, living on her own on Cape Cod. She had left behind her career as a fashion writer for a simpler life, having a daughter on her own and raising her on the Cape. Then, in January 2002, forty-six-year-old Christa was found stabbed to death in the kitchen of her cottage with her toddler daughter clinging to her body but unharmed.

    Join us at the quiet end for The Burden of Bias. After Christa’s murder, suspicions pointed toward several local men she’d known. But in 2005, investigators arrested Christopher McCowen, a thirty-four-year-old African American garbage man. According to the police, McCowen gave inconsistent stories. He was convicted in a trial that was filled with conflicting testimony and police misconduct. But in January 2008, a hearing was held to determine whether racism was a factor in the jury’s decision to convict McCowen. Three jury members testified that fellow jurors made racist remarks during deliberations, raising questions about whether his trial was fair and unbiased. Since then, there have been two distinct sides to this story as McCowen’s attorneys work to get him a new trial.


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    Sources

    A Killing on the Cape podcast, ABC News, 2017

    COMMONWEALTH vs. CHRISTOPHER M. MCCOWEN, 458 Mass. 461, 5/7/2010-12/10/2010, https://law.justia.com/cases/massachusetts/supreme-court/volumes/458/458mass461.html

    Massachusetts Supreme Court Rejects McCowen’s Appeal of Conviction for Christa Worthington Murder, Lefteris K. Travaykis, Esq., 12/16/2010, https://www.bostoncriminallawyersblog.com/massachusetts-supreme-court-re-2/

    Murder on the Cape, 48 Hours, S30 E8, 11/19/2017

    Reasonable Doubt: The Fashion Writer, Cape Cod, and the Trial of Chris McCowen by Peter Manso

    Revisiting the Christa Worthington Murder 20 Years Later, Caitlyn Flynn, 6/2/2022, https://crimereads.com/revisiting-the-christa-worthington-murder-20-years-later/

    Where are they now? Key players in the Christa Worthington murder case 20 years later, Cape Cod Times, Eric Williams, 1/5/2022

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  • Sandra Bridewell lived a life of privilege throughout the 1970s and into the 1980s. In fact, her life could have been described as near perfect if not for the trail of dead bodies left in her wake. Her first husband, a prominent dentist, died in their home in 1975. Her second husband, a real estate developer, died of cancer in 1982. Shortly after his death, his oncologist’s wife was found shot to death in her car just hours after giving Sandra a ride to the airport. Three years after that, Sandra’s third husband Alan was found shot to death in his car where he was last seen driving to meet her. And six months after that, Alan’s cousin was found shot to death in his garage.

    Join us at the quiet end for Death Followed Her. Sandra Bridewell had a way about her, especially when it came to men. She was a confessed con artist and a skilled liar. But finding her legally responsible for the suspicious deaths of the people around her would prove next to impossible for law enforcement. Under suspicion, Sandra would elude accountability for her crimes, frustrating victims’ families and detectives for years.


    Sources

    The Black Widow, D Magazine, Glenna Whitley, 5/1/1987

    Black Widow Feels the Sting of the Long, Long Arm of the Law, Dallas Observer, Robert Wilonsky, 3/8/2007

    Black Widow Pleads Guilty, D Magazine, Glenna Whitley, 2/28/2008

    Glenna Whitley Has a Date with Dateline NBC Tonight, D Magazine, Robert Wilonsky, 8/6/2007

    The Meaning of Malice by John Leake

    The Meaning of Malice Documentary, John Leake, https://vimeo.com/943420674

    The Sting, Dateline Secrets Uncovered, S6 E1, 1/5/2019

    Tangled Web, Dateline NBC, 8/6/2007

    Web of Suspicion: The Oklahoma Tie to the Black Widow of Dallas, New9.com, Kelly Ogle, 5/5/2022

    Whatever Happened to the Black Widow: Sandra Bridewell, D Magazine, Glenna Whitley, 5/1/1989


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  • In 2008, single mother Susan Bailey was working two jobs to make sure that her children, 17-year-old Jennifer and 13-year-old David, had everything they needed. But on September 26th, when Susan didn’t show up for work, her employer called Susan’s mother, Kate, in Minnesota. Susan’s mother hadn’t heard from her daughter or her two grandchildren. She tried all of their phones repeatedly but no one was answering. Eventually, Kate called the police to go out to her daughter’s Roanoke, Texas home and do a welfare check. The police went to the house, but all was quiet and they saw no signs of trouble. No one answered the door and Susan’s car wasn’t there. What the police and Kate didn’t know was that Jennifer was obsessed with her boyfriend, Paul Henson, and that Paul and Jennifer had made plans to run away together.

    Join us at the quiet end for Killer Kids. At 3:30 in the morning on September 28, a police officer in South Dakota pulled over three teenagers travelling in Susan’s car. The teens were taken into custody and Susan’s house was finally searched by police. What they found was a shockingly violent and bloody crime scene described by one detective as “a slaughterhouse.”


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  • In 2015, 35-year-old Kendra Hatcher became a victim of a murder-for-hire plot fueled by jealousy. Kendra was a pediatric dentist living in Dallas who was in a romantic relationship with dermatologist Ricky Paniagua. She was in love with Ricky, but she didn’t know that Ricky had a jealous ex who was stalking her and eventually wanted her dead.

    Join us at the quiet end for Fatal Jealousy. Ricky’s ex-girlfriend Brenda Delgado had been devastated since he broke up with her in an email that June. That summer, Kendra and Ricky had gone out to dinner, taken trips, and posted smiling photos of themselves on Facebook. Then, on September 2, the day before Ricky and Kendra were to fly to Cancun for a long weekend, someone walked up to Kendra in her apartment parking garage and shot her in the back of her head. No one could imagine who would have a motive to kill Kendra—until investigators spoke with Brenda’s co-conspirators and learned of her obsession with Ricky and her simmering hate for Kendra.

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  • California physicians Deepti Gupta and Kevin Paul Anderson were starting their own pediatric practice together when they had an affair. Both were married to other people. Anderson was loved by his patients and had been a mentor to Deepti, who was ten years younger. The day before she was murdered, Deepti had finished all her requirements to become a fully-licensed pediatrician in the State of California and she was certified by the American Board of Pediatrics. But Deepti had a secret---she was pregnant with Anderson’s child.

    Join us at the quiet end for Dr. Killer. With his career and marriage at risk if news of Deepti’s pregnancy got out, Anderson asked her to meet him in the San Gabriel Mountains to talk. That same night, Deepti’s car and body were found at the bottom of a steep cliff. After recovering her body, it was determined that she had been strangled, her body and car doused with gasoline, and shoved over the cliffside. It was clear that Anderson was responsible, but was this premeditated first-degree murder or a crime of passion?


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