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It’s a mistake to presume your way of seeing the world is normal because that means every time you meet someone with a different way of seeing the world, if it’s different than yours, you will feel justified in judging them abnormal. But the Enneagram teaches there are actually nine normal ways of seeing the world, not just yours. Part of emotional and spiritual growth is the capacity to recognize the complexities of human personalities and to expand the aperture of our own lens.
Today, Anthony and I welcome the talented artist, musician, filmmaker, actor (and Enneagram 3), Joel Smallbone, to the show. We begin our conversation with an exploration of Joel’s personal experience with the Enneagram and he shares how the Enneagram helped open the doors of understanding within his marriage.
As our conversation progresses, Joel reflects on the process of creating “Unsung Hero,” and the profound impact playing the part of his father has had in his understanding of his father, and of how he relates to the world. As Joel explains, “What [it] has done for me is inverted the narrative, and it’s gone, well, hang on, yeah, you’re not quite as awesome as you maybe thought you were. And hang on, there’s other people’s stories. And hang on, there’s other people’s perspectives. […] So instead of me walking into the room simply sitting, going, who are you? Who are all you in relation to me? I’m almost arguably saying, “who am I in relation to you?”
Join us as we navigate these themes and celebrate the beauty of the human personality.
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In today's episode, spiritual director, podcast host, and Wall Street Journal Bestselling Author Emily Freeman and I dive into the topic of human relationships and decision-making through the lens of the Enneagram. We discuss Emily's new book, "How to Walk into a Room," which offers a unique perspective on discerning when to stay and when to walk away from various aspects of life. We explore the concept of denial, people-pleasing, and the importance of paying attention to one's inner knowing.
Join us as we share insightful questions to help navigate complex relationships and make decisions with clarity and self-awareness. Discover how to lead yourself, care in a different way, and uncover what you truly want in life.
Don't miss this engaging discussion filled with practical advice and thought-provoking insights on personal growth and self-discovery.
Stay tuned for more enriching conversations on the Typology podcast!
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How does knowing a person’s personality style help you in leadership development? In today’s replay, Scott Allender, Senior Vice President of Talent Strategy & Development at Warner Music Group, explains the concept of emotional intelligence, shares how he uses the Enneagram in team building and leadership development, and highlights the importance of being more thoughtful and intentional about developing leaders' capacity and not just capabilities.
Scott will be joining us as a special guest in September for our Typology Institute Town Hall to dig deeper into the topic of Emotional Intelligence and Integration. If you’re not yet an Enneagram Explorer, we’d love to have you join us in the discussion. Head over to the Typology Institute to gain acceess today.
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Grief takes many forms and can be a complex and individual experience. It’s not limited to major life events. Life is full of small, invisible losses. In part 2 of our conversation with acclaimed grief educator and bestselling author, Christina Rasmussen explains what she means by “invisible losses” and the impact they can have on our lives over time: “our perception of self shifts out of what we know about ourselves and it changes…when that happens, we lose what I call the original self and what the original self is.”
In today’s episode, you’ll learn:
what invisible losses are how to recognize our three inner narratives, and the importance of reconnecting with your original selfTune in for valuable insights on navigating grief and reconnecting with your original self.
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This week we welcome the incredible Christina Rasmussen as our guest. In part one of this two-part conversation, we dig into the topics of grief, personality types, and self-discovery through the lens of the Enneagram.
In this episode, we explore:
Christina's personal journey of loss and how it led her to become a grief educator and author The multifaceted nature of grief that goes beyond traditional stereotypes Unique insights into how different personality types navigate grief and life challenges The nuances of the Enneagram 8 including the interplay between traits like strength, vulnerability, and projection How engaging in shadow work, self-reflection and continuous growth cultivates authenticity, compassion and resilienceChristina's wisdom and authenticity shine through, offering a powerful perspective on navigating life's challenges with courage and compassion.
Tune in to discover more about Christina's work and insights on grief and the Enneagram.
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Today, we're joined by Liz Marie Galvin, author, blogger, and Enneagram 4. Liz shares how learning her Enneagram type has impacted her self-awareness and personal growth and the discusses some of the tools she uses to navigate the rich emotional landscape of being a Type 4.
The conversation concludes with a discussion on the subtypes of Type 4 and how they manifest in different ways.
We also dig into the challenges of being in the public space and curating an authentic persona online, exploring the Type 4's struggle with envy and the pressure to share vulnerable moments on social media.
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How do you find joy in a world riddled with anxiety? Today, we are joined by Randy Frazee, an Enneagram 3, pastor, and author of “The Joy Challenge” to explore the concept of joy and the science behind happiness. Randy shares his insights on finding joy in challenging circumstances and offers practical tips for increasing joy in our daily lives. He emphasizes that though joy and happiness are closely related, joy is characterized by inner contentment and purpose. He offers a few principles from the book of Philippians that can lead to joy, including seeking reconciliation in relationships, practicing unconditional love, and cultivating gratitude, highlighting the scientific evidence supporting the power of gratitude in overcoming anxiety and depression.
Join us for this wonderful conversation and start your “joy challenge” today.
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Randy Frazee is a pastor at Westside Family Church in Kansas City. A frontrunner and innovator in spiritual formation and biblical community, Randy is the architect of The Story and Believe church engagement campaign. He is also the author of The Heart of the Story; Think, Act, Be Like Jesus; What Happens After You Die; His Mighty Strength; The Connecting Church 2.0; and The Christian Life Profile Assessment. He has been married to his high school sweetheart, Rozanne, for more than forty years. They have four children and five grandchildren, with more on the way! To learn more about his work and ministry go to randyfrazee.com.
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In this episode of Typology, we delve into the intriguing world of the Enneagram 7 with special guest Bryan Crum, author of the book "Neighbor, Love Yourself, Discover Your Value, Live Your Worth." Bryan’s unique journey as a hospice chaplain for a decade adds a fascinating layer to the conversation, showcasing the unexpected intersection of a joyful Enneagram 7 personality with the profound experiences of confronting mortality and reflecting on life.
We explore the concept of forgiveness and the role it plays in recovering one's self-worth, drawing parallels between personal growth and spiritual development. Bryan emphasizes the powerful process of re-storying, countering past regrets and doubts, and embracing forgiveness as important components for healing.
The episode is sure to leave a lasting impression. Tune in from your favorite platform.
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Driven by a need to be seen as successful and accomplished in the eyes of others, Enneagram 3s are known for constantly “doing” and striving for recognition. However, this constant drive for achievement can lead to burnout, as they push themselves to their limits in pursuit of their goals.
Today, we welcome meditation teacher and spiritual coach, Ben Katt, who shares his experience with burnout and how committing to contemplative practices such as silence, solitude, and stillness, helped him heal. These practices, which may seem counterintuitive to a Three’s productivity-oriented mindset, are essential for well-being and personal growth.
Join us as we discuss the concept of midlife as a pivotal moment for reflection and explore the ritual practices that can awaken us.
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This week, we welcome back Dr. Carol Tanksley, author of "Sexpectations: Reframing Your Good and Not-So-Good Stories About God, Love, and Relationships." Dr. Tanksley brings a unique perspective shaped by her extensive background as a former OBGYN and reproductive endocrinologist, offering a compassionate exploration of human sexuality, intimacy and relationships.
Dr. Tanksley sheds light on several misconceptions surrounding sex, aiming to challenge and reshape our perspectives. Drawing from her clinical experience, she provides valuable insights on how we all can begin to heal from societal and personal misconceptions about sexuality.
Moreover, we delve into the profound significance of true intimacy in fostering strong and healthy relationships. Dr. Tanksley emphasizes the importance of understanding and nurturing intimacy beyond mere physicality, advocating for a deeper emotional and spiritual connection between partners.
This episode of promises valuable reflections and practical advice from Dr. Carol Tanksley. Join us as we explore the complexities of human sexuality with empathy and wisdom.
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This week on Typology, we welcome back Carlos Whittaker, author, podcaster, and global speaker…and Enneagram 3. If you remember, last time he was on the show, Carlos thought he was an Enneagram 9. We suggested he investigate the Enneagram 3, and that’s what we talk about today, as well as his brand-new book, Reconnected: how seven screen-free weeks with monks and Amish farmers helped me recover the lost art of being human.
Carlos shares his journey of self-discovery and vulnerability as he embarked on a seven-week screen-free experience that allowed him to uncover layers of his personality and confront feelings of loneliness, shame, and grief. He shares how this experience helped him discover and appreciate the importance of solitude, authenticity, and true connection.
Carlos' story serves as a powerful reminder of the ongoing process of self-discovery and the courage it takes to confront our true selves.
If you're interested in exploring the Enneagram, understanding the Type 3 personality, or simply seeking inspiration for your own journey of self-discovery, I encourage you to listen to this episode.
You can tune in to the podcast on your favorite platform or visit our website to listen to this enlightening conversation with Carlos Whittaker.
Wishing you all a safe holiday and a week filled with self-reflection and growth.
Learn more about Carlos Whittaker
https://caroloswhittaker.com
https://www.instagram.com/loswhit/
https://www.facebook.com/carloswhittaker
https://twitter.com/loswhit
https://www.tiktok.com/@carloswhittaker
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Award-winning columnist and commentator on politics, spirituality, and culture, Jonathan Merritt returns to Typology to explore the challenges of authenticity, fear and his journey towards self-compassion. Jonathan opens up about his personal experiences reconciling his identity with his upbringing, the role fear has played in his life, and how he’s learning to trust and let go.
We discuss his new children's book, "My Gunkle and Me," a heartwarming story that celebrates individuality and inclusivity. As Jonathan explains, “the ways in which you are different from the majority of people in this world. Those differences are not liabilities. They're your gifts to the world. They're the things that make you, you.”
Join us for this enlightening but deeply moving conversation, offering a powerful reminder of the transformative power of self-compassion and acceptance.
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Today, we had the pleasure of speaking with Charlie Peacock and Andi Ashworth, authors of the new book, "Why Everything That Doesn't Matter Matters So Much, The Way of Love in a World of Hurt."
In this episode, Charlie and Andi share their experiences discovering their types and their personal reflections on how the Enneagram has contributed to them understanding themselves better.
From the complexities of being a Four to the challenges of living with chronic pain as a Seven, this conversation is rich with insights, vulnerability, and wisdom as we explore themes of empathy, creativity, grief, and the pursuit of meaning in life.
If you want to gain a deeper understanding of the Enneagram, explore the complexities of the human personality, and discover how to navigate life's challenges with grace and resilience, this episode is a must-listen.
Join us on this enlightening and heartfelt conversation with Charlie and Andi.
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In this captivating episode of Typology, we delve into the power of storytelling with two incredible guests, author Allison Fallon (Enneagram 4) and business educator and author Donald Miller (Enneagram 3). The episode centers around Allie's new book, "Write Your Story: A Simple Framework to Understand Yourself, Your Story, and Your Purpose in the World."
Allison shares her experience as a storyteller and the driving force behind her work. She discusses the importance of finding the unique angle in every person's story and the deep connection between storytelling and self-discovery. She explains, "every person has something interesting to say," and sharing our stories through the process of writing and examining our own lives is what leads to healing and transformation.
As the episode unfolds, Don adds his insights into the power of narrative and the asks some great life questions about the human experience.
Tune in as we highlight the importance of self-reflection, authenticity, and the healing power of sharing your story.
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Connect with Allie Fallon on Instagram at https://instagram.com/allyfallon and explore her new book, "Write Your Story," to embark on your own journey of understanding yourself, your story, and your purpose in the world.
Connect with Donald Miller on Instagram at https://instagram.com/donaldmiller, https://instagram.com/storybrand, or https://instagram.com/businessmadesimple.
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Sponsors: This episode is sponsored by Thrive Market and BetterHelp.
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What leads to radical transformation? Shifting your perspective from a victim mindset to a hero mindset.
Don Miller returns to Typology to share the role the Enneagram played in his journey out of the victim hole to more empowered perspective. “It’s a story of a person who identified as a victim transforming into a person who identifies much more of a person who’s playing a more meaningful role on the planet, and also considers victim mentality to be the enemy of self-development, progress, and happiness,” Don explains.
Today, we explore the:
Three subtypes of an Enneagram 4 and how they manifest in unique ways
Importance of self-exploration and introspection for personal growth
Role of readiness, desire and surrender for lasting change
Join us for this great conversation about transformation and shifting perspectives on life.Find Don Miller on:
YouTube: youtube.com/coachbuilder
Instagram: @donaldmiller and @storybrand
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When we’re born into this world, we’re just soaking everything up, trying to figure ourselves out and learning about other people and our place in the world. “Those initial lessons become imprinted into our later childhood and adulthood as rules of thumb for how we should operate in the world,” explains Dr. Judy Ho. The way we develop bonds, learn to attach (or not) to people in childhood impacts impacts every aspect of our lives: friendships, careers, goal-setting, and our sense of self. But what if you could learn to become securely attached, even as an adult? How can you reclaim your ability to feel safe, loved, and capable of thriving?
In today’s rich conversation with Dr. Judy Ho, we explore:
The four attachment styles
The relationship between attachment style and Enneagram type
How to reparent your inner child and start the journey toward secure attachment
ABOUT DR. JUDY HODr. Judy Ho, Ph. D., ABPP, ABPdN is a triple board certified and licensed Clinical and Forensic Neuropsychologist, a tenured Associate Professor at Pepperdine University, and author of Stop Self-Sabotage. An avid researcher and a two-time recipient of the National Institute of Mental Health Services Research Award, Dr. Judy maintains a private practice where she specializes in comprehensive neuropsychological assessments and expert witness work. You can learn more about Dr. Judy Ho and her work on her website or in her new book, The New Rules of Attachment, How to Heal Your Relationships, Reparent Your Inner Child and Secure Your Life Vision.
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What does it mean to truly belong? Today’s guests, Chris and Julie Bennett, authors of the book 'Fighting for Family: The Relentless Pursuit of Building Belonging, join me for a heartfelt discussion about what it means to build strong relationships and find a space where you belong. They share personal insights and experiences that highlight the importance of vulnerability, honesty, and bringing your whole self to the table in order to create a space where everyone feels accepted and valued.
In this episode, we also explore:
The importance of getting in touch with anger for the personal growth of Enneagram 9s
Fighting for the things that truly matter
Facing the good and bad truths about yourself as a pathway for healing
Tune in as we reflect on the power of embracing vulnerability, honoring our differences, and extending forgiveness to cultivate communities of belonging.
Connect with Chris and Julie:
https://fightingforfamily.org
https://facebook.com/chrisandjuliebennett
https://instagram.com/chrisbennett143
https://instagram.com/juliebennett
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New York Times bestselling author John Mark Comer returns to Typology to share what he’s working on personally, his struggle with control and perfectionism, and the need for self-effort AND grace in spiritual formation. He reminds us that spiritual formation isn’t just a religious thing, it’s a human thing. We are all being formed by someone or something. So how do we ensure we reach our full potential and deepest connection? From his new book, Practicing the Way, John Mark explains the importance of crafting a rule of life to support spiritual growth and deep transformation.
Join us as we discuss obstacles to growth and the path to renewal through the lens of an Enneagram One.
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John Mark Comer is the New York Times bestselling author of multiple books including The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry (more than half a million sold) and Live No Lies. His new book is the New York Times and USA Today bestseller Practicing the Way: Be with Jesus. Become like him. Do as he did. He’s a founding pastor of Bridgetown Church in Portland, Oregon, and a teacher and writer with Practicing the Way.
After serving as the lead pastor of Bridgetown Church in Portland, Oregon, for nearly two decades, John Mark and his family now reside in Los Angeles, where he serves as a teacher in residence on discipleship and spiritual formation at Vintage Church LA. His podcasts, “John Mark Comer Teachings” & “Rule of Life,” have been ranked on top religion and spirituality podcast charts in the US and UK.
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This week we have a real treat for you as we invite renowned health and wellness expert, Dr. Josh Axe, to the table for a riveting conversation on the Enneagram 8 and mindset. We explore the balance of strength and empathy, delve into the complexities of shifting your mindset, and the impact of balancing virtues on the path to lasting transformation.
Dr. Axe opens up about the life-altering wisdom he gained from his grandfather—where character trumps achievement—an ethos that values presence and compassion over material success. From the stories of legendary figures to the principles outlined in his new book, "Think This, Not That," Dr. Axe invites you to reshape your desires and refocus on what truly matters.
Join us for an episode that promises to challenge and inspire your personal development.
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About Dr. Josh Axe
Dr. Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS, is a certified doctor of natural medicine and clinical nutritionist with a passion to help people use food, lifestyle and mindset medicine to heal and prevent illness. Dr. Axe is a graduate of Johns Hopkins University earning his Masters of Science in Organizational Leadership. Josh is the cofounder and CVO of Ancient Nutrition and founder of DrAxe.com, one of the top natural health websites in the world today. His company ranked on the Inc. 500 fastest growing companies two years in a row. In 2008, he started a functional medicine center in Nashville, which grew to become one of the most renowned clinics in the world.
He is the bestselling author of Eat Dirt, Keto Diet, and Ancient Remedies. His fast-growing show and podcast, The Dr. Josh Axe Show, covers the topics of health, mindset, personal growth and spiritual growth. Dr. Axe is an expert in topics including nutrition, natural medicine, mental health, self-development, and leadership. Josh is married to his wife, Chelsea, and they have two daughters. They live between Nashville, TN and Dorado, PR and enjoy cooking, staying active swimming and cycling, and prioritize time for their faith and family.
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