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Since their formation in 2014 Veilburner have been carving out their own particular place in the realm of extreme metal. Honing their unique brand of experimental dissonant blackened death metal, the duo of Mephisto Deleterio and Chrisom Infernium have created a musical, visual and mythic world that is all their own — with the duo operating behind a mysterious masked appearance that evolves with each album. Back in early 2019 (following the release of the band's fourth album, A Sire to the Ghouls of Lunacy), I interviewed Veilburner via email for Blessed Altar Zine. Two more interviews followed coinciding with the band's fifth and sixth albums.
With the duo poised to release their seventh album, The Duality of Decapitation and Wisdom (out November 15th on Transcending Obscurity Records) I got the opportunity to talk to the men behind the masks for the first time.
On this occasion, I was talking with Dave and Chris as they shared some of the band's history, myth making, concepts, artwork, masks and more.
As well as sharing the story behind one of the band’s masks, Dave and Chris both also shared a series of photos of some of the other artefacts in their workrooms. You can see them all on a slideshow at the end of the YouTube video interview. For this audio version of the interview I’m including a selection below.
Closing track: "III Visions of Hex-Shaped Hiss, Behead the Howling Spirit" (Transcending Obscurity Records, 2024)
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Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom Osman
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Earthbound is the new album by noir-pop band The Old Ceremony — a collection of beautifully constructed songs, from a band led since its formation in 2004 by singer and multi-instrumentalist Django Haskins.
Although it's been nine years since the band's last album, you can be sure that Django, (with his various other projects, teaching and family commitments) hasn't been twiddling his thumbs at any point.
We discuss the latest record, Django's songwriting, his many years of performing, influences, meeting Chuck Berry and other tales from a lifetime of music.
Closing track: "North American Grain" (Robust Records, 2024)
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Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom Osman
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As Above, So Below — the first God Bullies album in 30 years, recently released on Reptilian Records — has a very different lineup to the last time the band appeared on record, but the story of frontman and founding member Mike Hard and guitarist Scott Kodrik goes back many years.
The two discuss some of the many tales from decades spent navigating the noise-rock underground, from their peculiar first meeting, their time together in Thrall and how this new iteration of God Bullies came about and came to release As Above, So Below.
Recorded at the famous Electrical Audio studio in Chicago, As Above, So Below shows that God Bullies in 2024 is still a noise-rock beast to be reckoned with.
Photo: Scott Kodrik
Closing track: "As Above, So Below" from As Above, So Below (Reptilian Records, 2024)
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Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom Osman
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Next Friday sees French rock group Dirty Shades release Stuck in Motion — their debut album.
Anouk Degrande discusses the band’s songwriting, the cost of recording, music promotion, and how it is for independent artists working in France.
Band photo: Guido Robard
Closing track: "Cannon Fodder" - Stuck in Motion (Modulor Music 2024)
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Andy Ortmann is a music maker, a visual artist and the founder of Nihilist Recordings.
We discuss some of the releases, performances and stories of Andy's career — which stretches back to the early 90s.
Whether it's the many costumes worn onstage as part of his band Panicsville, the unique packaging of some of his own releases (and others on Nihilist) or the variety of different recording methods employed over the years, Andy continues to find new ways not to repeat himself.
Andy shares tales of meeting the members of Whitehouse, how he came to release music by Nurse With Wound's Steven Stapleton on Nihilist, why he chose to dress like a plant onstage and much else besides.
Closing track: "Poemè Psychoacoustique" from Psychoacoustic Electronics (Nihilist, 2023)
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It was with singer and guitarist Kerry Jones that the idea of Death Doula first originated, but it was only after meeting guitarist and sound-maker Kyle Alexander that Death Doula the band really started to take shape.
With the line up of the band rounded out with Keith Vidal on bass and Adam Kozie on drums, Death Doula are poised to release their debut album Love Spells.
Kyle joins me to talk about the album, the band's origins and why making music with Kerry is so special.
Closing track: "The Witness" from Love Spells (Death Doula Records, 2024)
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Nick Sakes got into music relatively late, first picking up a guitar at the age of 26.
First fronting the intense and influential Dazzling Killmen in the 90s, Nick has gone on to play, tour and record as part of Colossamite, Sicbay and Xaddax.
His current band Upright Forms (along with bassist-vocalist Noah Paster & drummer Shaun Westphal) recently released their debut album Blurred Wires on SKiN GRAFT Records.
Still with some of the old abrasive, angular fury in his music, Upright Forms demonstrate that Nick can allow some poppier hooks and melodies (and, dare we say it, joy!) to take their place alongside punk rock aggression.
We talk about the latest record, songwriting and some of the varied musical history that's taken Nick to where he is now.
Closing track: "Regular Multiplier" from Blurred Wires (SKiN GRAFT Records, 2024)
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Pity the fool who tries to sum up Manic Abraxas in three or four words.
Taking major inspiration from the genre-hoping Celtic Frost, Manic Abraxas draw whatever influences they please into their petrol-soaked stew of dirty, chugging, psychedelic hard rock... or is it metal?
You can decide for yourself.
With founder Dallas Seger on guitars/vocals/synths alongside Justin Hamm on bass/vocals/synth and Tom Bennett on drums, the band recently released their sci-fi-inspired Skinformation album.
Dallas and Justin join me to discuss the record, working with mentor Steve Austin of Today is the Day and some of their other inspirations.
Photo by Michael Hallahan
Closing track: "Skinformation" from Skinformation (2024)
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Born in the midst of Covid upheaval Baltimore, Maryland’s noise-rock unit Mast Year have been making good use of their short time together.
Having put out their debut record, Knife, last year, the four-piece of Noel Mueller (guitar), Darin Tambascio (bass), Ben Price (drums) and Eric Rhodes (vocals), recently released their follow up Point of View on guitarist Noel’s Grimoire Records.
Drawing from a range of influences, Mast Year’s music is dark, grimy and often bleak, but as quickly becomes clear talking with Darin and Eric, there’s just as much humour among the band members as there is existential horror.
So what do Donald Crowhurst and porn fatigue have to do with Point of View? The answer lies within this interview.
Band photo by Ben Price
Closing track: “Teignmouth Electron” from Point of View (Grimoire Records, 2024)
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Having to deal with losing multiple band members and a global pandemic between albums might not be the most uncommon story for musicians over the past few years.
For Kenny Cook and Anciients, however, that’s just one part of the story of how the band went from releasing their second album, Voice of the Void, in 2016 to now, in 2024, being on the cusp of releasing their follow-up record Beyond the Reach of the Sun.
As Kenny discusses in our interview, even as the Canadian progressive-metal act was releasing Voice of the Void (and later winning a JUNO for it), events inside and outside the band were starting to turn everything upside down.
We get in to the whole story as well as discussing the album, looking back on the origins of the band, Kenny’s experiences with booking shows and tours, and plenty more besides.
Band photo by Shimon
Closing track: "Cloak of the Vast and Black" from Beyond the Reach of the Sun (Season of Mist, 2024)
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The musical story of singer, guitarist and songwriter David Judson Clemmons goes back to the late 80s and right up to the present day.
It includes playing with future Nu-Metal production whizz Ross Robinson and working with Michael Jackson recording engineer Brian Malouf.
It's a story that also features future Machine Head drummer Dave McLean and former Megadeath guitarist Chris Poland.
From Virginia, to LA to Berlin, Germany and from Ministers of Anger, to Damn The Machine, to JUD and an extensive solo career, there's plenty to cover — including David's plans for his next record.
We get into all of that, some of David's influences, stories from his time running an antique-furniture-restoration shop and plenty more.
Photo by Anne de Wolff
Closing track: "Dark Walk Home" from Tribe & Throne (Village Slut Records, 2020)
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Justin Pearson's first band, Struggle, was formed after a Suicidal Tendencies show on JP's 15th birthday. Within that year he already had his first experience of being on a label and touring.
Since then, JP has not only been part of a host of punk and outsider bands, (from The Locust and Dead Cross, to currently, Planet B, Deaf Club and Satanic Planet), but also an author, podcast host, publicist and record label owner.
In this conversation, we go all the way back to JP's early years in Phoenix, Arizona. We discuss his difficult (but ultimately rewarding) move to San Diego, his early debt to the local chollos, starting out with Struggle, the importance of dialers and "Book Your Own F****n' Life" for DIY bands in the 90s, how technology has changed the musical landscape, the practicalities of running his label Three One G, the inspiration of Dischord's Ian MacKaye, and more.
Photo credit: Becky DiGiglio
Closing track: "Biblical Loophole" DEAF CLUB feat. HIRS COLLECTIVE (Three One G, 2024)
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Portland, Oregon's Forty Feet Tall play rock n' roll... or is post-punk... or is it psych rock? Well, it's something of all these styles and probably more.
The four piece have been honing their sound for over a decade. With the current line-up of Cole Gann (vocals/guitar), Jack Sehres (guitar), Brett Marquette (bass/backup vocals) and Ian Kelley (drums) firmly cemented, the band's latest single "Isochronism" is hot off the presses and featuring a delightfully trippy video (directed by the band's very own Brett Marquette).
I catch up with the whole band to talk about the latest single, the making of and inspiration behind the video, history, lives shows, the wooing of drummer Ian Kelley and plenty more.
Having the guys all together on one call really gives a sense of the fun and camaraderie of the band. Check it out for yourself right here.
Band photo credit: Bella Petro
Isochronism photo credit: KC Weimann
Closing track: "Isochronism" (2024)
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Jon Ehlers (vocals, synths, samplers) and Atif Haq (drums) have been making music together as Bangladeafy for almost 15 years.
During that time the duo has carved out a sound that's wholly their own. Why so particular? Well, there are a number of reasons you could point to, but you probably couldn't describe it better than Jon Ehlers could and that's what we've got right here in this episode of the podcast.
Bangladeafy have also just released album number six, Vulture (on Nefarious Industries) and we'll be talking about that too — the background to the album, the instrumentation and how the duo's approach has evolved over the years.
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Three Second Kiss are not a band to be rushed. When they’re ready, they’re ready. That said, sometimes unexpected events can throw a spanner in the works.
So it was with the Covid pandemic, when Sergio Carlini( Guitar), Massimo Mosca (Bass & Vocal) and Sacha Tilotta (Drums) found themselves ready to make an album, but unable to be together in one room.
Ultimately though, perseverance prevailed, the result being From Fire I Save The Flame (Overdrive Records), an album bristling with electrical sparks firing between the three members.
So what did happen in the time between the band’s previous record, Tastyville and their latest offering? Well, you can find out in the latest episode of the podcast.
You can also hear how the band ended up working with the late Steve Albini, alongside a whole host of other stories.
How many bands can you name that live next to a volcano? At least one: Three Second Kiss.
Closing track: “Letter From Hurtville” from From Fire I Save The Flame (Overdrive Records, 2024)
Photo courtesy of Maria Vittoria Trovato
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While having existed as a three-piece for around half a dozen years, the story of Birmingham's Mutes goes back further.
Back in 2014 singer, guitarist and chief-songwriter James put out his first eponymous EP as Mutes. Ten years later Mutes the band (comprising James, Craig Bainton on drums and Thomas Hewson on bass) have recently released the band’s fourth full-length album ...buried where you stand (No Sound Records).
Putting Mutes, and their latest album, in a neat box isn't so easy. You could call them alt-rock or maybe post-punk. I thought I heard Hüsker Du at times, maybe some Sonic Youth.
As James reveals in our interview for the latest episode of the podcast, a lot of different elements have found their way into the band's sound.
We talk about the latest album, James' childhood as a frequently-on-the-move "military brat", the practicalities of booking shows, the costs of recording an album and plenty more.
Check the band out online, follow them on the links below and if you feel so inclined (as I did), you can get yourself a CD copy of the album that comes complete with scanned booklet of James' original writings that would go on to be the latest album's lyrics. Pretty cool stuff.
Closing track: "Great White Nothing" from ...buried where you stand (No Sound Records, 2024)
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While some fans might know Gregory Jacobsen best for his funny cat paintings, this is only one small sliver of Gregory's art (visual and musical).
Avant-rock group Lovely Little Girls (the band Gregory has fronted for more than 20 years) is often a vehicle for some of the darker aspects of the vocalist and lyricist's psyche — and it's the band that we're largely focussed on today.
We discuss Lovely Little Girls' latest record Effusive Supreme (out last year on SKiN GRAFT Records) and how the band and Gregory's writing has evolved over the years.
There's time for delving into the stories behind some of the band's most colourful songs from past releases, songwriting, performing on stage, visuals and tales from the recording studio.
Gregory also tells the story of how he met and worked with Tommy Meehan (Squid Pisser), who talks about Gregory in episode 24 of the podcast — so here were are coming full circle.
Illustrations courtesy of Gregory Jacobsen
Closing track: "Incomplete" from Effusive Supreme (SKiN GRAFT Records, 2023)
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Canadian, extreme-metal unit APES just put out their second full-length record, Penitence, on Secret Swarm Records — with the band finding new ways to fulfil their mission statement of being heavy and relentless.
I caught up with drummer Gabriel D’Amours to discuss the latest record, the history of the band and how Gabriel keeps his life centred around music.
Band photo courtesy of Tom Morin
Closing track: "Shadow Walker" from Penitence (Secret Swarm Records, 2024)
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Tommy Meehan is a man on a mission to follow the DIY-music-making dream.
One of his more recent musical projects Squid Pisser just put out their latest, great, bizarre, head-spinning, glitch-punk-metal album Dreams of Puke (SKiN GRAFT Records).
Tommy joined me to talk about the band, the album and how it was put together — as well as the equally wonderful and bizarre artwork (by artist/ musician Gregory Jacobsen).
We talk about how Tommy ended up joining his childhood heroes GWAR, his record label Sweatband Records, the positives of mask wearing, various other musical projects he's been a part of over the years and plenty more.
For a man penning such delightfully grotesque gems as "Vaporize a Neighbor" and "Gack Action Gods" Tommy comes across as a total sweetheart underneath the scary masks.
Squid Pisser have North American and European live dates coming in 2024. Go check them out!
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Closing track: "Virus A******s" from Dreams of Puke (SKiN GRAFT Records, 2024)
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Indie-rock-pop group Oh, Rose released their debut EP That Do Now See in 2014.
With a ten-year-anniversary reissue coming out this Thursday on Antiquated Future Records, alongside "The Call", the latest single from their forthcoming album Dorothy, songwriter and vocalist Olivia Rose joins the show.
She talks about her musical background growing up in Asheville, North Carolina, moving to Olympia, Washington, some of the history of Oh, Rose, the personal story behind the "While My Father Sleeps" record, what it takes to make a record and more.
Catch Oh, Rose supporting Future Islands on tour in North America this September.
Photos courtesy of Giselle Gabrielle
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