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When Heaven Meets Hell x Love Lust Fridays: Crossover
In this special crossover episode, Allyn is joined by Jake Deptula and Michelle Locke, co-hosts of Love Lust Fridays. Jake, widely recognized for his work as co-host of Strictly Stalking, brings his expertise on themes of love, betrayal, and resilience; while Michelle, a former associate family court judge and current family law attorney with over 5,000 domestic violence cases under her belt, adds invaluable insights from the legal field.
Together, they dive deep into When Heaven Meets Hell, exploring Allyn’s experiences and the impact of publicly sharing her story. This conversation serves as a powerful capstone to the WHMH series, providing listeners with follow-up insights, reflections, and even a bit of “extra tea.”
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Jake Deptula: https://www.instagram.com/jaked3000/
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Love Lust Fear feed:
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0e3ndcf5u8lZ5lhN1lvWec
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lovelustfear/id1735876283
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In this powerful final episode, Allyn brings the series full circle by summing up the lasting effects of intimate partner violence, coercive control, and betrayal trauma. She dives deep into her personal experience, putting numbers to the loss and healing that followed, making the aftermath of such relationships tangible for listeners. By offering relatable insights, she highlights the emotional and psychological toll these dynamics take on survivors and their communities.
Allyn also shares a moving final statement from fellow survivors, giving voice to those who have bravely come forward with their stories of resilience and recovery. In a poignant close to the series, she issues a heartfelt call to action: to break the silence, raise awareness, and stand together in solidarity.
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Listen to Leigh Collins' podcast: Extraordinary
Follow War Party Movement on Instagram: @warpartymovement
War Party Movement’s website here
CPTSD vs PTSD: Psychology Today
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In this powerful episode, Allyn delves into the challenges victims face when navigating the justice system. She uncovers the many barriers that often stand in the way of justice and healing, offering insights into how to break free from the grips of trauma bonds and move forward in life.
Allyn is joined by a special guest, former Green Beret and co-founder of War Party Movement, Jeremiah Wilber, who shares his unique perspective on motivation and resilience.
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Follow Jeremiah Wilber on Instagram: @jeremiah_blackbeard
Follow War Party Ranch on Instagram: @warpartyranch
Follow War Party Movement on Instagram: @warpartymovement
War Party Movement’s website here
Resources on Intimate Partner Violence and partner/family member assault
National Library of Medicine
Safe Harbor
Rachel Louise Snyder’s work: No Visible Bruises: What We Don’t Know About Domestic Violence Can Kill Us -
Allyn dives deeper into the fallout of her shattered relationship—uncovering lies, betrayal, cheating, and emotional abuse. As grief, anxiety, and depression take hold, she confronts the harsh realities of trauma and its lasting effects.
In this episode, she’s also joined by another woman who faced her ex’s deception. Together, they explore the damaging cycles of toxic relationships and share how they found strength and community amidst the destruction.
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Jordan B Petersen’s website here
More on Jennifer Freyd and Betrayal Trauma here
Resources on Intimate Partner Violence and Partner/Family Member Assault
National Library of Medicine
Safe Harbor
Dr. Ramani’s work: It’s Not You: Identifying and Healing From Narcissistic People Rachel Louise Snyder’s work: No Visible Bruises: What We Don’t Know About Domestic Violence Can Kill Us -
Allyn shares the raw and emotional aftermath of her unexpected breakup. Left reeling from the shock of betrayal, she embarks on a journey to find closure and answers, but what she uncovers is more horrifying than she ever imagined. As she navigates the emotional wreckage, Allyn sheds light on the red flags she missed and how narcissistic abuse and manipulation played a devastating role in her story.
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Check out Dr. Nadine Macaluso's website here
Follow Dr. Nadine on Instagram: @therealdrnadine
Check out Richard Grannon’s website here
Dr. Ramani’s work: It’s Not You: Identifying and Healing From Narcissistic People
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Allyn finally finds herself allowed into his home, which opens the door to more suspicious activity and a look into his mind in a deeper and disturbing way. As the layers begin to peel back, Allyn discovers more about his manipulative behavior, and his carefully constructed façade starts to crumble.
Guest expert Kris Prochaska (LMHC & LPC) joins the conversation, offering a powerful look into the energetics of narcissists. She explains how these individuals operate at a superficial level, moving horizontally through life, unable to connect with deeper emotions or higher truths. Kris pulls back the curtain, shedding light on the shallow and calculated ways narcissists maneuver through their relationships.
This episode concludes with a glimpse into the early stages of Allyn's breakup—what appeared to be the beginning of the end, but was only a fraction of the dark reality that would soon surface.
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Allyn spends more time with his family as the odd and troubling behavior continues to increase. She recounts how the little breadcrumbs left behind kept her moving forward in the relationship.
In this episode, Dr. Morgan Anderson discusses attachment styles and how understanding them can help you build securely attached relationships. Dr. Nadine Macaluso sheds light on trauma bonds and cognitive dissonance, explaining how they can keep you feeling confused and stuck in unhealthy relationships.
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Check out Dr. Nadine Macaluso's website here
Follow Dr. Nadine on Instagram: @therealdrnadine
Check out Dr. Morgan Anderson’s website here
Follow Dr. Morgan on Instagram: @drmorgancoaching
Sandra Brown's work: Women Who Love Psychopaths: Inside the Relationships of Inevitable Harm With Psychopaths, Sociopaths & Narcissists Lundy Bancroft's work: Why Does He Do That: Inside the Minds Of Angry and Controlling Men Rachel Louise Snyder's work: No Visible Bruises: What We Don't Know About Domestic Violence Can Kill Us -
As their bond grows stronger, the stakes get higher. Allyn finds herself questioning everything and gets answers that only complicates and confuses her situation. Dr. Nadine Macaluso and Kris Prochaska (LMHC & LPC) continue to offer their expert opinions on “The Dark Triad/Tetrad” and the techniques that narcissists use to break down a person’s sense of self.
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Check out Dr. Nadine Macaluso's website here Follow Dr. Nadine on Instagram: @therealdrnadine Follow up with Kris Prochaska’s (LMHC & LPC) website here -
Allyn flies to Montana to spend time with her new potential boyfriend and meets his family. As the relationship begins to grow deeper, some disturbing acts begin to drastically alter the dynamic of the relationship. Guest expert Dr. Nadine Macaluso joins the podcast to talk about "The Big Five" personality traits.
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In the premiere episode of “When Heaven Meets Hell”, host Allyn Amerongen sets the scene for what will become a harrowing tale of surviving narcissistic abuse and coercive control. Allyn reflects on her past, chronic health issues, and a pivotal revelation during EMDR therapy. She also recounts a trip to Montana, her dating app experience and the fateful moment when she became someone’s “Dream Woman”.
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Love That For Us - Episode 2: Allyn’s Chronic Health Journey
Love That For Us - Episode 11: Dating Apps in Real Time: The Ghoster, The Palette Cleanser, and The Daddy
