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This Vergecast is your source for an irreverent and informative look at what's happening right now (and next) in the world of technology and gadgets. Hosted by Nilay Patel alongside a cavalcade of tech luminaries, The Vergecast is the only podcast you need to make sense of the week in tech news.


273: Apple event rumors, Galaxy Note 8 review, and Loren in zero gravity  

We’re one week away from The Vergecast Live in San Francisco, so Nilay, Dieter, and Paul talk through the last-minute rumors about what to expect at Apple’s event on September 12th.

We also dedicate part of the show to the Galaxy Note 8, which was reviewed on the site this week.

And for the season finale of her video series Space Craft, Loren Grush stops by to tell us what it was like being in zero gravity on a parabolic plane.

There’s a lot more in between that, so listen to it all and you’ll get it all.

03:14 - Juicero, maker of the doomed $400 internet-connected juicer, is shutting down

06:41 - The Boston Red Sox used an Apple Watch to steal pitching signs

10:44 - Galaxy Note 8 review

31:09 - Space Craft episode 4 with Loren Grush

52:41 - Apple iPhone 8 event: what to expect

1:16:32 - Paul’s weekly segment “Untitled

1:20:34 - lots of TV stuff

272: IFA 2017, LG V30, and more smart speakers  

The Vergecast returns to the New York studio this week. Dieter, Nilay, and Paul run through what was announced so far at IFA 2017, including the LG V30, Sony Xperia XZ1, and lots of smart speakers.

Halfway through the show, Loren Grush makes a pit stop on her way to space to talk about episode 3 of her new video series Space Craft.

04:01 - LG’s V30 loses the gimmicks and gains a beautiful OLED screen

12:41 - Sony’s Xperia XZ1 and XZ1 Compact have refreshed designs and Android Oreo

21:10 - Lenovo made a weird $70 Alexa speaker that only works with its Android tablets

23:26 - Lenovo’s new Yoga 920 laptop has far-field microphones so you can shout at Cortana

24:56 - Google announces three third-party speakers with Assistant, plus LG appliance integration

34:07 - Space Craft episode three with Loren Grush

51:46 - In colossal screw up, Essential shared customers’ driver’s licenses over email

57:34 - Fitbit has a lot to prove with Ionic, its new smartwatch

1:08:56 - Paul’s weekly segment “Who will let me out of this yarn prison?

1:11:03 - Sony's new wireless earbuds include noise-cancellation technology

1:12:36 - Apple’s iPhone 8 event is happening on September 12th

Oh yeah, and Apple announced that its next event will be September 12th. So we announced we are doing a live Vergecast on September 13th in San Francisco! Join us!

271: Hands-on with the Note 8, Android Oreo, and Verizon's new unlimited data plans  

This week on The Verge, Dieter was able to get his hands on the new Galaxy Note 8. So on The Vergecast, Nilay, Dieter, and Paul go over the first impressions of Samsung’s latest product and what the pricing will mean for future smartphones.

Next up, Loren Grush returns to the show to talk about the second episode of Space Craft, as well as her experience seeing the eclipse this week in Nashville.

There’s a lot more in between, like Android Oreo’s name announcement, Verizon’s new unlimited data plans, and some new smart speakers on the horizon, so listen to it all and you’ll get it all.

02:43 - Note 8 specs and features

17:06 - Apple reportedly planning $999 price for new iPhone

26:36 - How I outran clouds to get the perfect eclipse photo with Loren Grush

34:12 - Space Craft episode two with Loren Grush

44:34 - Android O is now officially Android Oreo

47:40 - Google may take on the Echo Dot with a mini Google Home

51:26 - Samsung confirms it’s working on a smart speaker

52:13 - Paul revisits Intel’s new chip announcements

57:41 - Verizon’s good unlimited data plan is now three bad unlimited plans

1:09:38 - Paul’s weekly segment “YotaPhone 3; still Yota-ing

1:12:07 - Apple TV is losing badly to Roku and Amazon in the living room, survey finds

1:13:28 - iOS 11 Safari will turn Google AMP links back into regular ones when sharing

1:19:34 - Nikon’s new D850 has 45.7 megapixels and enough features to tempt Canon shooters

270: Essential phone review, Charlottesville online, and Space Craft  

On The Verge’s flagship / only podcast, Nilay, Dieter, and Paul go through the weekly rundown of news that hit the site this week.

The show begins by addressing the accumulation of online hate as a result of the Charlottesville attack, and how it’s affecting the topics we cover.

Also, the Essential Phone is out today, and Dieter had the chance to review it. Nilay, Paul, and Dieter discuss where phones like Essential are headed with this release and the other upcoming releases this fall.

We’ve got a new segment for you as well! Loren Grush, science reporter and friend of the show, steps into the studio to talk about her new video series Space Craft, where she finds out what it takes to be an astronaut in modern-day space programs.

There’s a whole lot in between, so listen to it all and you’ll get it all.

Here’s a list of stories we talked about on the show:

05:46 - Charlottesville attack puts a spotlight on online hate

23:09 - Essential Phone review

43:25 - Headphone jack still missing

49:43 - Space Craft episode 1 with Loren Grush

1:09:30 - Paul’s weekly segment “You say surveillance, I say sousveillance

1:11:52 - Eclipse toolkit

1:14:07 - Samsung’s new fitness smartband leak reveals offline Spotify support, 5 ATM water resistance

1:14:48 - Apple is reportedly investing $1 billion in original video content

1:15:42 - Walmart’s Vudu video streaming service is coming to Apple TV on August 22nd

1:19:03 - Intel announces its next-generation Ice Lake chips unexpectedly early

1:22:02 - iOS 11 has a “cop button” to temporarily disable Touch ID

1:23:32 - Meet the streamers using Twitch to pay for college

1:23:42 - The Docx games: three days at the Microsoft Office World Championship

1:24:03 - Science doesn’t explain tech’s diversity problem — history does

1:25:12 - Paul’s podcast “Why watch people play video games?

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269: Google memo, Surface PCs reliablity, and fall phones preview  

This week on The Vergecast, Nilay, Lauren, Dieter, and Paul begin by discussing the controversy over the Google engineer who was fired over writing a 10-page viral memo about diversity. The story illustrates a deeper problem in Silicon Valley, which Lauren has discussed in her podcast recently, so the cast talks about the science of the claims, the responsibly of Google, and what it means in the larger tech industry.

In the second half of the show, the crew runs through the latest leaks, releases, and controversies in the gadget world, including Paul’s segment he does every week, “FROYO PODS.” 

01:46 - Google engineer fired over memo files labor complaint

33:09 - Consumer Reports stops recommending Microsoft Surface PCs over reliability concerns

37:41 - The new iPhone could have a resizable home button and face recognition for payments

46:22 - 4K Apple TV with HDR spotted in HomePod firmware

48:54 - Essential promises a new phone release date 'in a week'

56:19 - Another Pixel 2 leak shows the phone’s large front bezels

58:14 - Paul’s weekly segment “FROYO PODS

268: Tesla Model 3 first drive, iPhone leaks, and a bluetooth salt shaker  

We are without Nilay Patel on The Vergecast this week, so Dieter Bohn and Paul Miller step up to host with some very special guests: transportation editor Tamara Warren, and tech editor Natt Garun. Tamara was one of the few people who got to test drive the Tesla Model 3 last week, so she brings her expertise to the show to talk about what she knows so far.

Also, some of the iPhone’s design and features got leaked out from code in the HomePod, so Natt Garun helps the crew break down all the information we’ve gleaned.

There’s a whole lot in between that — like Paul’s segment about the salt shaker Smalt — so listen to it all and you’ll get it all.

01:18 - Tesla Model 3 first drive

31:02 - The next iPhone’s screen design and face unlock apparently confirmed by HomePod firmware

39:52 - This iPhone 8 concept video imagines a touchscreen in the home button

48:33 - Next Level final episode with Lauren Goode

1:10:56 - Paul’s weekly segment “Smalt you later

1:14:25 - Apple returns to growth as cheaper iPads boost sales

1:15:32 - Fitbit says its long-awaited smartwatch will be ready for the holidays

Walt Mossberg remembers the iPod nano  

Apple announced this week that the iPod nano has been discontinued, taking down the website for both the shuffle and the nano today. Walt Mossberg - renowned tech reviewer, looks back on the iPod nano's origin with an anecdote about an interaction he had with Steve Jobs.

267: iPod nano discontinued, Microsoft Paint's fate, and Foxconn's new factory  

The Vergecast summer 2017 continues! This week, The Verge launched Verge Guidebook, a new guide to show you what to buy, what you shouldn't, and how to use it all. Nilay, Dieter, and Paul start off the show discussing the new review system and how-tos coming to the site.

Then, there’s another set of obituaries this week: Apple nano, Adobe Flash, and Microsoft Paint. The crew pays their respects to the weird moments these products gave us.

Returning for episode 3 of her series Next Level, Lauren Goode stops by to give us behind-the-scenes info on the latest episode and what’s in store for episode 4.

There’s a whole lot of stuff in between, so listen to it all and you’ll get it all.

03:22 - Welcome to Verge Guidebook

16:51 - Apple confirms iPod nano and iPod shuffle have been discontinued

22:20 - Adobe will finally kill Flash in 2020

29:35 - Microsoft Paint isn’t dead yet, will live in the Windows Store for free

39:02 - Next Level episode 3 with Lauren Goode

56:12 - A Wisconsin company will let employees use microchip implants to buy snacks and open doors

1:00:20 - Pixel 2 headphone jack

1:01:21 - Apple supplier Foxconn unveils plan to build a $10 billion LCD factory in Wisconsin

1:17:18 - Paul’s weekly segment “Meizu? Me, too

1:22:22 - Twitter stalls, fails to add new users this quarter

1:23:43 - YouTube’s head of music confirms YouTube Red and Google Play Music will merge to create a new service

1:33:23 - Elon Musk dismisses Mark Zuckerberg’s understanding of AI threat as “limited”

1:37:37 - An eight-year-old reviews the Nintendo Switch

266: Bixby launches, Alexa on Android, and a new hyperloop  

Summer editions of The Vergecast continue as Nilay and Dieter welcome Ashley Carman and Jake Kastrenakes back to the show to discuss the news that hit the site this week. Elon Musk said he got “verbal” approval from The White House to build a hyperloop on the East Coast, Comcast is back at it again with statements on net neutrality, and we’ve got a few updates in the AI department.

Also, Lauren Goode updates us on the newest episode of her series Next Level once again! This week, she visited Dolby Labs to explore their experiments to track people’s emotional responses as they watch movies and TV.

There’s a lot more in between that, so listen to it all and you’ll get it all. 

02:52 - Pacific Rim: Uprising’s teaser

05:24 - Elon Musk says he has a green light to build a NY-Philly-Baltimore-DC hyperloop

11:47 - Bixby feels more like a return of the old Samsung than a path to the future

20:27 - Next Level episode 2 with Lauren Goode

37:21 - You’ll be able to talk to Alexa on Android phones starting this week

40:25 - Why is Comcast using self-driving cars to justify abolishing net neutrality?

44:09 - Microsoft wants to close the rural broadband gap with TV white spaces

51:58 - Ashley’s weekly segment “Let’s talk about translucent gadgets

54:26 - Google Glass is back from the dead

58:04 - Snap’s Spectacles are now available directly from Amazon

1:00:18 - How Instagram is reshaping restaurant design

1:04:25 - Apple joined by Foxconn and others in its fight with Qualcomm

265: RIP Windows phone, net neutrality day of action, and Next Level  

Welcome back to another week of The Vergecast. Nilay, Paul, and Dieter sit down in the studio to bring you the news that hit our site this week. First off, the net neutrality day of action was on Wednesday, as was Nilay’s piece on the matter. The gang debate the issue in this net neutrality “season” of news.

Halfway through the show, senior tech editor Lauren Goode stops by to talk a little bit about her new video series Next Level, which shows the technology that’s being worked on at some of the world’s most innovative companies and research institutions. You can check out the first episode here.

Last, but not least, we have what you’ve been waiting for — phone news! We have a mini Verge mobile show to discuss the deaths and births of the mobile world recently.

There’s a whole lot in between that, so listen to it all and you’ll get it all. 

03:45 - A Microsoft font may have exposed corruption in Pakistan

07:39 - Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T want Congress to make a net neutrality law because they will write it

23:39 - The FCC says net neutrality destroys small ISPs. So has it?

35:47 - Next Level with Lauren Goode

52:13 - iFixit teardown confirms Note 7 Fan Edition is just a Note 7 with a new, smaller battery

53:30 - BlackBerry KeyOne launches on Sprint, the eternal harbor of innovation

54:25 - Death of Windows Phone

59:47 - The new Pixel XL

1:01:54 - Luxury phone maker Vertu is shutting down its UK manufacturing operation

1:03:27 - Andy Rubin’s Essential is staying quiet on the Essential Phone delay

1:06:51 - Paul’s weekly segment “Mag me later

1:10:31 - Alexa news

264: Echo Look, RED announces a phone, and new iPhone rumors  

The week of Independence Day, Nilay, Paul, and Dieter get together in a classic format of The Vergecast to bring you the top tech news that hit the site this week. To name a few, we’ve got a review of the Echo Look, a new Android phone announced, and some breaking news in the middle of the show.

There’s a lot more in between that, so listen to it all and you’ll get it all.

04:48 - Amazon’s Echo Look does more for Amazon than it does for your style

25:17 - RED is making a $1,200 smartphone with a “holographic display”

32:07 - New report claims iPhone 8 won’t feature fingerprint sensor in display

41:08 - Ashley’s segment “Spotted

42:16 - Qualcomm is trying to ban iPhones from being sold in the US

51:24 - Paul’s weekly segment “TOOTHPASTE PODS

263: The iPhone turns 10, Petya ransomware and an iOS 11 preview  

Did you know it was the iPhone's 10th anniversary on Thursday? The Vergecast knows. Nilay, Dieter, and Paul talk about what the iPhone means to them, to the industry, and to the entire universe. With just a slight tangent to talk about Orbs for Kings.

Better yet, Nilay interviewed Verge reporter Russell Brandom about the Petya ransomware. It's a segment Russell calls "CyberTalk," but Nilay wants to call it "Brandom Security with Russell Brandom." Please vote in the comments.

1:00 - The iPhone turns 10

21:56 - iPhone or smartphones: which had the bigger impact?

31:50 - Petya ransomware in “Brandom Security with Russell Brandom” / “CyberTalk”

47:15 - Amazon Echo Show Review

55:31 - iOS 11 preview

66:00 - ARKit

72:30 - Paul’s weekly segment “Spin Safety”

74:50 - Galaxy Note 7 (Fandom Edition)

262: Uber’s CEO resigns, Tumblr’s fight for net neutrality, and Bixby first look  

Here we go, another classic episode of The Vergecast. There were a lot of little things that happened this week, and we wanted to discuss them all, so Nilay, Dieter, and Paul go through their list of hits on the site.

Also, to continue our weekly summer interview series, Nilay sits down with culture reporter Kaitlyn Tiffany to talk about her recent piece on Tumblr’s relationship with the fight over net neutrality.

There’s so much in between all of this, so listen to it all, and you’ll get it all.

01:17 - OnePlus 5

4:29 - Scott Forstall breaks silence to talk about the iPhone’s creation

10:34 - First look at Samsung’s Bixby Voice preview for Galaxy S8

13:58 - Samsung’s Galaxy Note 8 will reportedly be announced in August

17:10 - Amazon's new Dash Wand is half magic, half boring

21:12 - You can now watch your smart home camera from an Amazon Echo Show

27:48 - Verizon is killing Tumblr’s fight for net neutrality with Kaitlyn Tiffany

45:36 - Travis Kalanick resigns as Uber CEO

1:00:00 - Paul’s weekly segment “My Dinner with Andre

1:02:59 - iPad Pro 12.9 review: a great iPad, one I won’t buy

1:03:57 - 3.33 years after its release, someone actually beat Threes

1:04:58 - Microsoft now lets Surface Laptop owners revert to Windows 10 S

1:07:11 - You won’t be able to use your Surface Book if you want to take the bar in Tennessee

261: Panos Panay, E3 2017, and iPad Pro 10.5-inch  

Day two of The Vergecast this week! Yesterday, Nilay interviewed Brian Merchant, author of The One Device: The Secret History of the iPhone. Today, we have another full episode with a lot going on. First off, E3 happened this week, and there’s a ton of news in the gaming world. Paul interviews culture reporter Megan Farokhmanesh (who is at the expo) live on tape to talk about what happened on the show floor, the press conferences, and the multitude of games that were shown. Next, Dieter and Nilay have a fun conversation with special guest Panos Panay from Microsoft to talk about Microsoft’s newest product, the Surface Laptop. And, of course, we have new reviews out this week! Along with the Surface Laptop, Nilay, Paul, and Dieter discuss the 10.5-inch iPad Pro and the future of these new kinds of computers. There’s a whole mess of stuff in between that, so listen through it all, and you’ll get it all. 05:37 - Xbox One X 13:47 - E3 2017 with Megan Farokhmanesh 34:44 - Panos Panay interview 1:00:57 - 10.5-inch iPad Pro and Surface Laptop reviews 1:17:44 - Paul’s weekly segment “I C Seed; so much seeing”

Special edition: Brian Merchant, author of The One Device  

We’re doing two episodes of The Vergecast this week — the usual one on Friday, and this very special edition with Brian Merchant, author of The One Device: The Secret History of the iPhone. We ran a big excerpt of the book this week, and we got deep on talking about the book, where it came from, and Merchant’s feeling that we should know more about the technology products in our lives — and know more about the hundreds of people who make them, from the unsung engineers at tech companies to the extremely unsung miners who dig the raw materials out of the ground. And, of course, we talk about the quotes from Tony Fadell and Bill Bilbrey in the excerpt we just published, in which Fadell tells a story about Phil Schiller arguing the iPhone should have a hardware keyboard. Schiller has said the story isn’t true, and Fadell has tried to walk it back as well. “So I wasn't in the room at Apple 10, 15 years ago when this would have happened,” says Merchant, who has the exchange on tape. “But this is a quote verbatim as Tony Fadell who was in the room told it to me. He told me this quote in such detail and he gave such a vivid account and I had no reason to believe it was untrue.” Merchant says the controversy has “blown him away.” “It certainly wasn't intended to make Phil Schiller look dumb. It was an opposing viewpoint... I think that it's totally fine to be a dissenting voice and want to contextualize this emergent technology and even be opposed to it. Why would you not have someone in the room who is forcing people to think critically about this potentiality?” There’s a lot more on the podcast, including a deep dive into the early research projects at Apple exploring touch interfaces.

260: HomePod, WWDC 2017, and DJI Spark  

This week, it’s Apple’s turn to take over The Vergecast. Dieter and Jake have just come back from WWDC while Nilay and Paul watched from afar so the gang has a lot to talk about with the new products announced. We also have Ben Popper stop by the show to talk about DJI’s newest drone, the Spark. There’s a whole lot more in between that so listen to it all you get it all. 04:56 - Apple announces HomePod speaker to take on Sonos 32:14 - DJI Spark review with Ben Popper 47:22 - Apple announces new 10.5-inch iPad Pro 1:02:51 - Apple is launching an iOS ‘ARKit’ for augmented reality apps 1:06:05 - iMac Pro introduced / macOS High Sierra 1:18:37 - watchOS 4 brings new Siri watchface, fitness coaching, and a new app-browsing UI 1:21:32 - Paul’s weekly segment “Gates-all-around, all around”

259: Code Conference, Essential Phone, and Chromebook Pro  

This week’s Vergecast is recorded out of the studio. Nilay heads to the West Coast to reunite with Dieter, Lauren, and Casey at this year’s Code Conference. The gang discusses the speakers (in more than one way) at the event including Andy Rubin, Hillary Clinton, and Reed Hastings. They also chat a little about the news outside of the conference. Back in New York, Paul reports on gadget week with his weekly segment “Let me hug your robot heart.” There’s a whole lot more in between, so listen to get it all! 01:29 - The case for editing tweets 06:01 - The Essential Phone: a first look at the hardware 30:11 - Paul’s weekly segment “Let me hug your robot heart” 32:49 - Netflix CEO says net neutrality is ‘not our primary battle’ 42:41 - Clinton says the Russians had to be ‘guided by Americans’ in how they weaponized information 55:37 - Don’t buy the Chromebook Pro until Google fixes a critical bug 59:11 - Verizon says the Droid brand isn’t dead, but it sure looks like it 1:01:30 - Microsoft's new Skype redesign is a radical change that looks like Snapchat 1:04:55 - Samsung's Bixby voice assistant is reportedly still weeks away from US launch 1:07:11 - Apple’s ‘Siri speaker’ reportedly enters manufacturing as announcement nears

258: Gadget news, FCC's final proposal, and Vlad  

Here’s The Vergecast. This week, Nilay, Dieter, and Paul plow through a week of news starting with (no surprise) the FCC’s ongoing mission to destroy net neutrality. This was also a week full of new gadgets — from the new Microsoft Surface Pro, to the Jamboard, to a $9,000 laptop, we walk you through the things we saw and reviewed in the Circuit Breaker world. Also, even though we filled our time, we added a bonus segment in between it all: Vlad Savov, a fan favorite of the show, stops by and quickly breaks down what is on his mind and what gadgets have piqued his interests. There’s a whole bunch of other stuff discussed on the show, (sorry, this show is an hour and a half), so listen through it all for more. 03:27 - Breaking down the FCC’s proposal to destroy net neutrality 32:36 - Inside the mind of Vlad 49:38 - And now, a brief definition of the web 51:03 - Microsoft's new Surface Pro has 13.5 hours of battery life and LTE option 56:22 - Microsoft has created a Surface USB-C dongle for “people who love dongles” 1:00:12 - DJI's $499 Spark is the company's cheapest and tiniest drone yet 1:04:43 - Google made a $5,000 whiteboard — and it’s weirdly fun 1:06:14 - Samsung responds to complaints about HDMI switching, will offer a firmware update 1:10:57 - How Anker is beating Apple and Samsung at their own accessory game 1:11:54 - Acer Predator 21 X review 1:14:14 - Paul’s weekly segment “Vroom Vroom goes the car” 1:17:00 - TV lightning round

257: Google I/O, Android O, and Assistant on the iPhone  

Fresh out of my export folder is a brand new episode of The Vergecast. This week, because of the business that is Google I/O, we recorded our episode Friday morning. This resulted in Nilay’s attempt to bring a morning show vibe to episode 257, despite Dieter, Adi, Natt, and Paul’s (and my) disapproval of sound effects. There was a lot to discuss thanks to Google’s developer conference, so here it is! Enjoy! 06:43 - Google is finally replacing its bad emoji blobs in Android O 13:59 - Google Assistant is on the iPhone now 24:41 - Google wants the Assistant to be everywhere — but first it needs to conquer the iPhone 31:46 - Android O 37:40 - Google is adding Kotlin as an official programming language for Android development 45:37 - Google AR / VR 1:01:25 - Ford update brings Android Auto and Apple CarPlay to its 2016 fleet 1:06:50 - New Surface Pro leak confirms Microsoft's hatred for USB-C 1:07:28 - AMD is bringing its new Ryzen processors to laptops later this year 1:08:15 - FCC votes to begin overturning net neutrality

256: Microsoft Build 2017, Echo Show, and a Cortana speaker  

Welcome back. This week’s episode of The Vergecast comes after Microsoft Build 2017, so Nilay and Dieter bring in Ashley Carman and first-time guest Chaim Gartenberg, two of our great Circuit Breaker reporters, to fill us in on what happened. The cast also discusses Amazon’s newest addition to the Echo lineup, the Echo Show, and what’s happening with these voice assistant products. There’s a lot more in the show, so listen to it all to get all the scoops. 01:38 - Microsoft Build 2017 20:38 - Windows Store news 22:57 - 10 S — lockdown 29:25 - Microsoft’s Story Remix app is Windows Movie Maker on steroids 24:17 - Harman Kardon teases its Cortana-powered speaker 37:13 - Amazon officially unveils touchscreen Echo Show 55:12 - Ashley’s weekly segment “Echo Gadget”

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