The Wages of Cinema

The Wages of Cinema

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A podcast that is practically all about MOVIES! Cinema, films, celluloid, digital, whatever you want to call it. Jack and Andrew are the hosts, and we talk about new movies, classics, cult work, things we've seen and have never seen, special segments about directors and styles and trends, and 'Required Reading' which is about movie books. And the "Local Vocal" series gives you in-depth interviews with NYC/NJ based filmmakers, actors, artists and musicians.



And now let's talk MOVIES! Jack kind of dominates this one - Andrew talks about Grand Hotel, though he's seen a couple other films Jack has so he chimes in - and it's the wide variety we like to bring to Wages of Cinema, from Japanese monster movie to resistance war movie to broad parody to Patrick Swayze kicking everyone's ass and the latest from Tim Burton, Mark Wahlberg, and that guy who stirred up that little dust over at Sundance about that movie named after that other movie but it's not a remake, gee what was it called.... 1) GODZILLA VS MEGALON (1973) 2) THE BEATLES: EIGHT DAYS A WEEK - TOURING YEARS (2016) 3) GRAND HOTEL (1937) 4) TRAIN TO BUSAN (2016) 5) THE AGE OF SHADOWS (2016) 6) YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN (1974) 7) DEEPWATER HORIZON (2016) 8) ROADHOUSE (1989) 9) THE BIRTH OF A NATION (2016) 10) MRS. PEREGRINE'S HOME FOR PECULIAR CHILDREN (2016) 11) HITCHCOCK/TRUFFAUT Clips: Duke Ellington's "Jubilee Stomp" (public domain) Train to Busan trailer excerpt (for fair use)

Episode 63.2: SHIN GODZILLA  

Just when you think it's safe to back to Japan that dangnabiit lizard comes out of the water and does... wait, is THAT what our King of the Monsters looks like now? Holy sushi, Batman! But the real question this time as Toho brings back Godzilla for the first time in 12 years (their longest time without him - even Godzilla 85 was only a 10 year wait), what new can be done with him? Well, what if he/it is not really the main attraction? Sure the big mother-jammer takes up the poster, but what if, say, Franz Kafka had taken a pass at a Godzilla script? Not the full writing of it just, you know, a pass? Um... you get this! Maybe! Jack and Andrew (the latter of course being a massive fan of Godzilla, with the former being casual) bring you their review of the latest film in this 62(!) year old franchise, which is now in very limited release. Also make sure to give a listen to episode 41.5, where we go deep into discussion on giant movie monsters. oh, and SPOILERS from 33:17 to about 35:59. Listen at your own peril of being zapped away by the fire-beams coming out of Gojira's dorsals. Songs: Godzilla theme Pharoh: Simon Says

Episode 63.1: Cinema Immersion Tank #19- OVER THE EDGE  

Mommys alright Daddys alright They just seem a little weird Surrender... Surrender... But don't give yourself away (accent on the y in away!) Anyone remember Over the Edge? Ever seen it? Good, because Jack took a dive into total anarchy and youth rebellion and angst and boredom and ROCK AND ROLL to bring you this podcast. So listen up and know what it's like to go to school on acid, shoot BB guns at cop cars, and destroy and entire school at the end of it all. Hey, Ho, Let's Go with this cult classic from 1979 (actually released in 1981, but we'll get to that too). Songs: Cheap Trick: Hello There The Who: Baba O'Reilly Van Halen: You Really Got Me

Episode 62: THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN (2016)  

Not always the brightest prospect, is it? A remake of a remake - something that wasn't even that original when the Americans took what Akira Kurosawa decided to make in 1954 as a repurposing of what he thought of as *templates from the Western*. Do we get here Antoine Fuqua doing his King Kong (also a remake of a remake) and having the time of his life, or is it like filtered coffee through one of Vincent D'Onofrio's boots? Jack and Andrew, no strangers to the Western genre (look at any given one of our episodes for reviews of classic and more modern Westerns), take a look at the newly released take on THE SEVEN SAM- I mean, THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN starring Denzel Washington, Chris Pratt, Ethan Hawke, Vincent D'Onofrio, and an awesome Native American actor playing a character named (no joke) "Red Harvest." Reference much? (SPOILERS at 36:33 in) Email us at or on or twitter @WagesofCinema about your thoughts on the film. (movie features a clip from the film provided for critical purposes, and the Elmer Bernstein 1960 theme and The Clash's "The Magnificent Seven")

Episode 61.4: OLIVER STONE LAND (Side B)  

Still so much more to talk about- we might even impress Barry Champlain mayhap with such talk: we get back where we left off in discussing Stone's "Vietnam Trilogy" with Born on the Fourth of July, and we go on through with the likes of JFK, Natural Born Killers, Alexander (the *many* cuts), to his latest release, Snowden (which Jack got to see right before recording). It's a big one so strap in. (Oh, and we finally come to the moment where Andrew cracks up laughing for a minute straight. What did this to him? You have to listen to find out. Let's just say it involves a weird naked Indian...) Also, please please PLEASE do check out the book that also makes this a "Required Reading" portion of the podcast- Matt Zoller Seitz's magnificent and extra-large (seriously, this thing can be used for added weight lifting at the gym), THE OLIVER STONE EXPERIENCE (link on Amazon: Clips: Oliver Stone interview by Charlie Rose (1997) Ben Stiller Show: OliverStoneLand (1994) The Doors: "Back Door Man" (1967) JFK (1991) (Warner brothers) Alexander score by Vangelis Born on the Fourth of July (1989) (universal pictures)

Episode 61.3: OLIVER STONE LAND (side A)  

The world would probably - no, let's put aside probably, most certainly - be different had Oliver Stone not made that decision after Vietnam to become a filmmaker. Hell, the world might be different had he not decided to *volunteer* to go to Vietnam to fight (at a time when that was not the majority way, usually it was 'you got drafted, you go'). Because Stone, for whatever you think of his work, added an extra dimension to dramatic-historical cinema, in a way that's drawn controversy on.... practically every film he's written and/or directed! So it's with this in mind - as well as returning special guest Romney Rosario (remember him from episode 22.3 on Scorsese?) - that we present our most epic-length podcast yet (until the slew of director's cuts)! This is so big we'll be posting this in two parts; "Side A" is on Stone's early life, going to Vietnam, and then how he became a filmmaker under the tutelage of Martin Scorsese at NYU, started in horror and soft-core exploitation with Lloyd Kaufman, got a screenplay Oscar on his first produced script, 'Midnight Express', and then made a mark in the 1980's early on as a writer of HARD-ASS BAD-ASS MEN (i.e. Conan, Scarface, Year of the Dragon), while also putting out another horror, 'The Hand'. This part stops just as he hits it big with 'Salvador' and 'Platoon'. Also, please please PLEASE do check out the book that also makes this a "Required Reading" portion of the podcast- Matt Zoller Seitz's magnificent and extra-large (seriously, this thing can be used for added weight lifting at the gym), THE OLIVER STONE EXPERIENCE (link on Amazon: Clips featured: Themes from PLATOON, THE DOORS (Break on Through), ALEXANDER, SCARFACE (Push it to the Limit), JFK and TALK RADIO (intro)

Episode 61.2: Cinema Immersion Tank #18- Disney's FROZEN  

One of the most successful films not just for Disney (actually it's their top-grossing non-Pixar movie not counting inflation but whatever), but of all time, FROZEN is still looked at as the 'how the heck did THAT happen?' It's kind of a miracle the film turns out the way it does, as a crowd-pleaser about sisters and love as an open door and trolls that sing songs while a comic relief snowman looks on. It's madness, I tell you! And yet.... does it make *sense*? Andrew dived so deep into Frozen for this Cinema Immersion Tank episode you may be surprised just how... no, no, those aren't tears forming, you're not going to make us cry, not now... darn it! Used for fair-use purposes: Songs: "Do You Want to Build a Snowman?" and "Let it Go" by Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez; Score selections by Christophe Beck


WELCOME BACK!! We open with a response to a listener question on our facebook page! (check for the full question). Next, Jack asks what is up with (the brilliant) Tony Zhou and his critique of Marvel's cinematic movie scores. Andrew brings up a video too - about HR Giger and the Alien design. And then Jack discusses two films that served a double feature he dubbed "Wombhouse" (When the Bough Breaks and The Light Between Oceans, both from 2016). References:

Episode 60.3: ALL HAIL THE MARX BROTHERS! (Pt. 2)  

We now continue with our regular scheduled Porpoise... Sorry, what, oh, Purpose, but the Porpoise can stay too. So what happened when the Marx brothers went to MGM via the figurehead Irving J Thalberg? A little known comedy called A Night at the Opera came to be, and then A Day at the Races. Then Thalberg died. What were the brothers to do? Do you sense we have too many questions going on here? Jack and Andrew continue and conclude their discussion on the oeuvre of Julius, Leonard and Adolph (or, sorry, Groucho, Chico and Harpo) in their eight films after Duck Soup. Get ready to sing, dance, get shot out of a canon or fall out of a plane, whichever you prefer! And Jack has some trivia for you all as well, including what happened to the Marx brothers when they were made to wait for Thalberg. You won't want to miss it! Films discussed: 1) A NIGHT AT THE OPERA (1935) 2) A DAY AT THE RACES (1937) 3) ROOM SERVICE (1938) 4) AT THE CIRCUS (1939) 5) GO WEST (1940) 6) THE BIG STORE (1941) 7) A NIGHT IN CASABLANCA (1946) 8) LOVE HAPPY (1949) (clips from A DAY AT THE RACES, AT THE CIRCUS and A NIGHT IN CASABLANCA)

Episode 60.2: Cinema Immersion Tank #17- WINCHESTER '73  

In the West, a gun was about as necessary as having a Western-Cowboy hat, or spurs, or whatever those things are on the edge of a belt, what are they called... oh yeah, holsters. In 1950, Anthony Mann, from a story by Stuart N Lake, made one of the essential Western films that has as its focus not necessarily one character (though it's filled with tired heroes, unapologetic villains, and a tough dame, not to mention Wyatt Earp, Sioux Indians, and shoot-outs and bank robberies and a whole ball of Western Wax), but a rifle - the Winchester '73. Why is it so? Jack watched it so many times that he dreamt Jimmy Stewart saving him from impossible perils! Ok, maybe that last part's a stretch. But he went into the Tank and got this episode for you to find out why it matters still over half a century on. (clips from the Winchester 73 trailer)

Episode 60.1: YOGA HOSERS (reactions) - DON'T BREATHE - DE PALMA - THE MERMAID  

For about the first 29 minutes of episode 60, Jack takes some time to try and figure out what Kevin Smith is all about with his Reaction-to-Negative-YOGA HOSERS-reviews video on YouTube (note: neither hosts have seen the movie yet), and Andrew is amazed by the specifics of how Ryan Reynolds dedication how DEADPOOL got made. Then, some movie talk (oh, and they are both still flabbergasted over the new trend of directors/actors "Thanking" audiences in video form right before the movie begins in theaters this summer): 1) DON'T BREATHE (2016) 2) DE PALMA (2016) 3) THE MERMAID (2016)

Episode 59.3: ALL HAIL THE MARX BROTHERS! (Pt.1)  

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?" Who could say things better than Groucho Marx? That's a trick question because no one could - he, Chico, Harpo, and Zeppo made such a dynamic team that their five first films at Paramount studios, between 1929 and 1933, remain among five of the funniest damn movies on the planet. Do they have the best stories? Who cares when you have four anarchic Jews who want to make you laugh? Do they have the best songs? A few are certainly among the freshest and funniest of the era, but we can leave the great songs to the others - we gotta get Harpo pulling something insane out of his pants (don't worry ladies, it's only everything except that!) or Chico being... well, Chico to the fullest! "I could dance with you till the cows come home...But I would rather dance with the cows till you come home." Jack and Andrew talk about these early films, from arguably the first sound musical comedy to to this day the arguably supreme comic satire on war (aside or alongside Strangelove, you decide). and see how they grew, if at all, from theatrical bozos to real FILMmakers: THE COCOANUTS (1929) ANIMAL CRACKERS (1930) MONKEY BUSINESS (1931) HORSE FEATHERS (1932) DUCK SOUP (1933) And join us next episode where we talk about their films at MGM (basically, the rest of their career). songs: "I Must be Going" "I'm Against It" (The Ramones) Clips from: Duck Soup Animal Crackers The Pervert's Guide to Cinema Horse Feathers

Episode 59.2: Cinema Immersion Tank #16- PERSONA  

Can you ever really understand a film when it challenges perceptions of reality? Persona was one of the key films of the 1960's and marked a turning point for the career of Ingmar Bergman - known for his philosophical and poetic examinations of spirituality, existential questions and real deep-raw-human hurt and pain and love and anger and all of those things, he went into a mode with Persona where it was... well, what was it exactly? Can Andrew, our faithful co-host and man who has actually already talked about Persona before (hear ep 14 for more on this)make heads or tails of this after five viewings? If not after this, when? And what does Ingmar Bergman (who you'll hear here in brief snippets) have to say about all of this? From 1966, this is PERSONA.


First, Jack and Andrew take a look back at this summer of movies for 2016... and why it was so thoroughly mediocre and forgettable (and we also quote and mention an article written by Jessica Ritchey, "Hollywood Gave Up on You", which you can read at the link below. Then, Jack and Andrew talk about the movies they've seen in the three weeks(!) since the past full three-part episode, and the movies stretch from the new releases from Werner Herzog and Laika animation studios (the makers of Coraline and Paranorman), to the beginning of feature epics with D.W. Griffith's films from 1915 and 1916. Also, more Star Trek and Wes Anderson! Get ready to dig in to a full course meal of cinema that involves plenty of wages - some of those by the makers of Ben-Hur! Movies discussed: 1) DANCIN' IT'S ON! (2015) 2) WAR ROOM (2015) 3) THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915) 4) INTOLERANCE (1916) 5) KUBO AND THE TWO STRINGS (2016) 6) SAUSAGE PARTY (2016) 7) STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT (1996) 8) THE LIFE AQUATIC WITH STEVE ZISSOU (2004) 9) THE MORTAL INSTRUMENTS: CITY OF BONES (2013) 10) LO AND BEHOLD: REVERIES OF THE CONNECTED WORLD (2016)

Episode 58: SUICIDE SQUAD  

"Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality..." (some Warners exec right now, probably) So tonight, Jack, Andrew, and Guest Star Matt(TM) bring you a review of the classic 1935 classic that's all about the brave firemen of the world and the women they love, SUICIDE SQUAD! (Well, this movie does exist, but wait, no, wrong version, right, it's 2016, gotcha, let's correct that). By now a lot of words have been written about the movie - and a little known aggregator called Rotten Tomatoes had been blamed for a lack of love for the film (without remembering what makes up the site, don't forget) - but what did WE think of it, that's what matters here! How did David Ayer (of Training Day and End of Watch) fare helming a Dirty Dozen/Escape from New York/Guardians of the Galaxy hybrid with the Baddest-Bunch of DC super-villains? How about the Big Bad Villain they face off? Just how did the follow-up to that monumental success Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice work out? And can you sense any sarcasm with that last sentence? Once again we are joined by Matthew Catania - seek out for many more thoughts on this and other movies, shows, comics, action figures, et al - and try to unpack the good, the bad, and the... Insane Clown Posse of SUICIDE SQUAD. clips from the film are featured. Podcast is owned by us. ::CORRECTION: In the podcast Jack states Tom Hardy was cast as Captain Boomerang - according to IMDb he was actually cast as Rick Flagg, but did drop out due to The Revenant, we apologize for the error::


Batman! Doctor Strange! Harley Quinn! King Kong! Edward Snowden! Wait, what? We watched a whole lot of trailers - ten in all - from the San Diego Comic Con (you can listen to us RIFF the trailers on YouTube, link soon to come), and we discuss our thoughts on them at length. So strap yourselves in for a discussion that goes from Harry Potter to King Arthur to Oliver Stone and what it means to have a comedic Batman movie. Movies: JUSTICE LEAGUE FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM SNOWDEN KING ARTHUR: LEGEND OF THE SWORD BLAIR WITCH SUICIDE SQUAD (remix) WONDER WOMAN DOCTOR STRANGE KONG: SKULL ISLAND THE LEGO BATMAN MOVIE have any thoughts or comments on the trailers discussed? Visit us on facebook (, Twitter ( or instagram (instagram/wagesofcinema) - is our email


First, Jack and Andrew talk about some sad and good news about the current state of VCR's and VHS (in brief, they're dead, Jim), and Terry Gilliam's long-gestating Don Quixote film (which is finally in production!) Then, Jack talks about movies that he watched since the last episode, ranging from a sequel in another Hollywood franchise, an adaptation of Alan Moore, and Woody Allen's once-a-year offering. (please note, there was a slight audio issue around 7:50 to 8:10 in the podcast due to a technical issue, we apologize for the snafu) films discussed: 1) CAFE SOCIETY (2016) 2) STAR TREK: BEYOND (2016) 3) BATMAN: THE KILLING JOKE (2016) 4) PLANET OF THE APES (1968) (clip featured from The Simpsons for fair use purposes only)

Episode 57.1: Cinema Immersion Tank #15- JULIEN DONKEY-BOY  

Where to start with this one? If anyone's familiar with the work of former "enfant terrible" Harmony Korine (do we call him now 'Adult terrible?'), then you know the wild, manic, tragic, gross, idiotic, perverse and often comic vignettes that populate films such as Gummo, Mister Lonely, and Spring-Breakers. He's an artist in the sense of, as director Werner Herzog would say, a "soldier of cinema", making a new f***ed up sandbox to play in. And Julien Donkey-Boy, his "Dogme 95" entry (listen to know what that was all about), is among his most outrageous, sad and ambitious efforts, also featuring Mr. Herzog in a performance for the ages. What is there to see here in five viewings? Listen for more. (clips featured are from Julien Donkey-Boy, Spring Breakers, and Puccini's opera, all for fair use criticism purposes)

Episode 56.2: Cinema Immersion Tank #14- ZARDOZ  

So what is Zardoz? The tagline was "Beyond 1984, Beyond 2001, Beyond Love, Beyond Death." This was due to what we can assume was a lack of imagination - hey, it's science fiction, let's throw in the two standard-bearers of that of the 20th century - but perhaps the 'beyond love and beyond death' part rings true. Did the film's director and writer, John Boorman, know what he was doing? Andrew watched this film five times, and for that he will do his best in under 7 minutes. (NOTE - this is a re-broadcast due to some technical errors in the previous podcast, we apologize for the inconvenience)

Episode 56.3: Dr. Jack & Dr. Andrew's Case Files #2- LADY IN THE WATER  

Most often people celebrate 10th anniversaries for something that's, well, worth celebrating. But here at The Wages of Cinema - where, don't forget, we make sure sometimes to take on those wages and plenty of them - we think a little differently. What about not simply a bad movie, but one of the colossal auteur blunders of the 2000's? On July 21st 2006, Warner brothers released the 7th feature film written-directed-produced-featuring Philadelphia's (once) golden-film-man M. Night Shyamalan, and it was met with critical and financial ruin, taking in 72 million dollars worldwide on a 70 million budget (and remember to always double for marketing for budget). So what happened? How did it get made? Well, it's not *that* podcast, but we also have a combined podcast here with our REQUIRED READING segments, so we also look at Michael Bamberger's THE MAN WHO HEARD VOICES: OR HOW M NIGHT SHYAMALAN RISKED HIS CAREER ON A FAIRY TALE and combine this to make it a full course podcast about Shyamalan and how this cinematic disaster came to be. (twist: there is no twist, sorry, go to an ice cream stand for some vanilla twist though, it's hot out! but we digress). narfs not owned by us.

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