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  • In today's challenging economic landscape, leading a law firm requires more than just strategic acumen — it demands heart, resilience, and a deep commitment to cultivating a culture of gratitude.

    Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill returns in this AMMA edition of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast to share his invaluable insights on how to keep your team motivated and appreciative, even when times are tough.

    Join him and learn:

    The importance of transparency and vulnerability in leadership

    Actionable strategies for fostering continuous recognition and appreciation within your firm

    How to transform your team’s entitled attitudes into engaged commitment



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    Show Notes:

    03:45 – Why you’d be foolish to miss the Game Changers Summit
    06:51 – How to cultivate gratitude amongst your team during tough times
    08:27 – Why leading with clarity is critical during trying times
    10:51 – How to determine who’s really in the foxhole with you
    12:02 – How to incorporate meaningful gratitude on a frequent basis
    14:07 – Why showing your thanks doesn’t have to break the bank
    16:30 – The difference between demanding gratitude and fostering appreciation
    18:43 – How to make your team more grateful
    21:39 – What happens when you give and expect thanks

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    Links & Resources

    The 2024 Invitation-Only Game Changers Summit

    Bonusly

    Slack


    Nick Saban 


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    #191 Joey Coleman – How to Never Lose an Employee Again

    #188 Liz Wiseman – How to Build a Team of Impact Players

    #189 AMMA – How to Preserve Your Culture While Scaling Your Law Firm

  • What if you could transform your small-town law practice into a legal powerhouse, dominating a highly competitive market and redefining client service standards?

    David Laborde and Digger Earles have done just that.

    By embracing relentless reinvestment, mastering the art of delegation, and leveraging innovative marketing strategies — including partnerships with NFL stars — they’ve built a legal empire from the ground up. Their journey from rural Louisiana roots to becoming legal titans is nothing short of inspiring.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, David and Digger join Michael Mogill to discuss:

    How to scale your law firm while maintaining an unparalleled client experience

    The importance of community-centric values

    Why betting on yourself is the ultimate key to success



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    Show Notes:

    02:14 – David Laborde & Digger Earle’s humble beginnings in rural Louisiana
    03:14 – The Laborde Earles family dynamic
    04:40 – The non-traditional route to entering the practice of law
    06:41 – The catalytic case that sparked a transformational partnership
    07:52 – How to develop a trusting and respectful relationship as co-owners
    11:44 – Lessons learned and mistakes made in the early years of Laborde Earles
    13:51 – Why investments in yourself offer the greatest guaranteed ROI
    15:24 – Laborde Earles’s evolution of marketing innovation
    18:42 – Balancing family commitments with building a business
    21:10 – How to craft a client-centric brand and differentiate from larger advertisers
    23:32 – How to scale your law firm by delegating and systematizing client experience
    26:13 – Laborde Earles’s core values
    29:36 – The All Sevens marketing campaign
    31:51 – Partnering with NFL teams and players
    33:33 – Becoming hometown heroes and building a culture that gives back to the community
    36:34 – The future of Laborde Earles Injury Lawyers
    38:45 – A day in the life of David Laborde & Digger Earles
    41:19 – What being a game changer means to David Laborde and Digger Earles 


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    Links & Resources

    Laborde Earles Injury Lawyers

    BP Oil Spill


    You Can’t Teach Hungry by John Morgan

    Litify


    New Orleans Saints 


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    #114 Nick Rowley – Confronting Conflict & Disrupting the Status Quo

    #174 Joey Coleman – How to Never Lose a Client Again

    #157 AMMA – Perfect Your Clients’ Experiences & Avoid Being Average

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  • The real game changers aren’t just the ones who talk a good game — they’re the ones who take decisive action and make a tangible impact in their communities and with their clients.

    If your team isn’t genuinely committed to doing the right thing every single time…

    you’re on a fast track to mediocrity and missed opportunities.

    Eric Chaffin, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Chaffin Luhana, knows this all too well. 

    His firm has achieved over $1B in verdicts and settlements because they live and breathe their motto, “Doing Good By Doing Right.” 

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Eric and Michael Mogill sit down to discuss:

    The origin and power of the firm’s guiding principle

    The critical need for a team that fully embraces and believes in your firm’s vision

    Why empathy is the secret weapon that separates great trial attorneys from the merely good ones



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    Show Notes:

    02:35 – Eric Chaffin's Early Life and Influences
    03:16 – Overcoming Trauma and Finding Purpose
    04:46 – Educational Journey and Early Career
    05:12 – Lessons from Running a Pizza Shop
    06:21 – Law School and Early Legal Career
    08:10 – Corporate Defense to Federal Prosecutor
    11:58 – Starting a Law Firm with Aligned Values
    16:53 – A Call for Compassion
    17:45 – The Lure of Mass Torts
    19:33 – Client Experience Focus
    22:12 – Community Engagement
    24:05 – Endurance Sports Journey
    29:34 – Defining Success and Overcoming Challenges
    31:26 – Future of the Legal Profession
    33:13 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Eric Chaffin


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    Links & Resources

    West Virginia University

    Chaffin Luhana, LLP

    Crisp

    Najee Harris

    Black Lives Matter

    MeToo Movement


    The Magic of Thinking Big by David J. Schwartz


    Giftology by John Ruhlin

    Ironman Triathlon


    Peloton 


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    #106 David Craig – How to Build a Legal Legacy


    #146 Rex Elliott – How to Transform Adversity Into Opportunities


    #189 AMMA – How to Preserve Culture While Scaling Your Law Firm

  • In this cutthroat legal market, relying on a single way to get new clients, such as referrals or pay-per-client advertising, won't cut it. 

    Firms that dominate their market have mastered the art of brand differentiation and community presence. 

    If you want your practice to become the obvious choice for clients in need, you have to have a robust marketing strategy that consistently puts your law firm’s name in front of your ideal clients.

    In Episode 271 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill delve into the essence of how you can build a bullet-proof brand. 

    If you're not actively setting your firm apart, you're not just blending in — you're fading into obscurity.

    Tune in to learn how to make your brand unforgettable.


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    Show Notes:

    02:52 – How to get your question answered on an episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast
    04:13 – How to create a brand identity that stands out from the competition
    07:12 – How to craft a unique value proposition to connect with your ideal clients
    10:15 – How to build a client-service-focused brand identity
    12:38 – How to create content that showcases your commitment to your clients and community
    14:30 – How to build a personal brand and establish yourself as a legal thought leader
    17:06 – Why you will never become an authority overnight

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    Links & Resources


    The Game Changing Attorney by Michael Mogill

    LinkedIn

    Taylor Swift

    Facebook

    Instagram

    TikTok

    YouTube

    Timothée Chalamet

    Timothée Chalamet’s YouTube Channel (@ModdedController360)

    Joe Fried

    David Craig


    After the Crash Podcast 


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    #9 Joe Friend – How to Hyper-Specialize and Dominate Your Niche

    #39 Ryan Deiss – Truth over Tactics and Marketing Strategies that Actually Work

    #150 AMMA – The 3 Critical Components to Effective Legal Marketing

  • What if you could consistently predict trial outcomes and secure life-changing verdicts for your clients? 

    Sean Claggett has cracked the code. 

    By focusing intensely on a few key cases and harnessing the power of big data and focus groups, he’s transformed the trial landscape, winning multiple eight-figure verdicts. 

    It’s a formula with a proven record of success — allowing them to win multiple eight-figure and life-changing cases for Sean’s clients.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Sean and Michael Mogill discuss:

    The next-level methods to leverage big data for predictable trial verdicts and settlements

    The critical importance of leading by example to cultivate an elite trial team

    The meticulous preparation tactics that set the most successful trial attorneys apart


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    Show Notes:

    02:20 – Sean Claggett's Journey to Becoming a Lawyer
    05:53 – Growing Up and Moving to Vegas
    09:03 – The Vegas Community and Its Resilience
    11:17 – Leadership and Work Ethic in Law
    14:14 – The Making of a Great Trial Lawyer
    19:22 – The Role of Focus Groups in Trial Preparation
    23:35 – The Early Struggles and Entrepreneurial Ventures
    24:40 – Discovering the System for Success
    25:39 – The Turning Point: 2012 and Beyond
    28:39 – The Lowe's Case: A Game Changer
    29:24 – The Importance of Focus Groups
    33:49 – Predicting Verdicts with Data
    40:12 – The Emotional Toll of Trial Law
    43:32 – The Drive to Make a Difference

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    Links & Resources


    Rules of the Road by Rick Friedman

    David Ball on Damages: A Plaintiff’s Attorney’s Guide to Personal Injury and Wrongful Death Cases

    Reptile: The 2009 Manual of the Plaintiff’s Revolution

    Challenged Athletes Foundation

    Republic Services wrongful death trial


    Claggett & Sykes Law Firm 


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    #209 Mark Lanier – Achieving Multi-Billion Dollar Verdicts

    #178 Brian Panish – The Making of Champion Trial Lawyers

    #135 John Morgan – The Greatest Threats to the Legal Industry

  • Imagine a world without women.

    It's impossible, right? 

    Women are the unsung superheroes in the office, at home, and everywhere in between. Whether it's late nights or early mornings, they relentlessly pursue the respect they deserve — and Jan Dils is leading that charge.

    As the owner of the largest female-founded law firm in America, Jan is committed to changing lives with an unwavering sense of responsibility and resilience.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jan delve into:

    Turning criticism into growth fuel


    Why work-life balance is a myth

    Scaling your impact to leave a lasting legacy




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    Show Notes:

    02:27 – Jan Dils’s origin story
    05:03 – How Jan got thrown into the deep end, trying cases the week she graduated from law school
    06:38 – What gravitated Jan towards Social Security & Disability law
    08:19 – The risks and investments required to run a volume practice
    09:19 – Jan’s establishment as a legal advertising trailblazer
    10:34 – Creating the legendary jingle: “She won’t take no for an answer”
    13:26 – Facing and overcoming sexism in the legal industry
    15:18 – Why the State Supreme Court tried to disbar Jan for marketing
    18:13 – How Jan Dils expanded her law firm outside of West Virginia
    19:00 – Jan’s 15-hour days and the work-life balance myth
    22:05 – Jan’s motivation to grow her law firm despite setbacks and sacrifices
    23:33 – Facing and overcoming the greatest setback of all: a breast cancer diagnosis
    24:49 – How to truly scale a law firm
    27:09 – The importance of culture at Jan Dils, Attorneys at Law
    29:14 – Jan’s advice to female law firm leaders
    31:07 – Jan’s approach to motherhood and definition of success
    33:24 – The Better Human Goal
    34:08 – What being a game changer means to Jan Dils


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    Links & Resources

    Jan Dils, Attorneys at Law

    Crisp

    West Virginia

    Jingle

    Charleston Gazette


    LSAT 


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    #107 Randi McGinn: Trial Attorney and Senior Partner at McGinn, Montoya, Love & Curry

    #137 Camille Vasquez: Johnny Depp’s Attorney in the 2022 Defamation Trial against Amber Heard

    #102 Laura Wasser: Elite Celebrity Divorce Attorney and Partner at Wasser, Cooperman & Mandles

  • Feeling crushed by life's relentless unpredictability? Brace yourself as we expose the brutal challenges of navigating the unknown and unveil the game changing strategies that will forge unbreakable resilience in the face of chaos.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill are tearing into:

    The razor-thin line between possessing all the information and taking decisive, proactive action


    The critical techniques to respond with cold, hard logic instead of succumbing to emotional turmoil in high-stakes scenarios

    How to dominate uncertainty with unwavering confidence and crystal-clear clarity 



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    Show Notes:

    01:52 – Michael Mogill’s shout-out to YOU
    03:20 – How to get your question answered on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast
    05:08 – Risks to consider and prioritize when making critical business decisions in uncertain times
    07:45 – Ray Dalio’s philosophies on the expected value equation and probability standpoints
    09:55 – Why indecisiveness is weakness
    12:11 – How to condition yourself to respond logically rather than reacting emotionally
    14:06 – How to focus on what you can control (and accept what you can’t)
    17:49 – Why life’s greatest gifts come from experiences of adversity
    19:23 – How Michael Mogill approaches uncertainty in his own business
    21:56 – How to prepare for a Black Swan event
    24:13 – Why investing in preparedness is better than investing in prevention

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    Links & Resources

    YouTube


    Principles by Ray Dalio


    Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl


    The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod

    Black Swan Events


    Charlie Munger 


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    #72 – Mark Manson: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck

    #168 – Ryan Holiday: The Obstacle Is the Way

    #183 – AMMA: How Great Leaders Make Decisions

  • Think you know how to motivate people? Think again.

    Susan Fowler, renowned leadership consultant, and the best-selling author of Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work…and What Does has spent the last two decades refining the application of motivation science in Fortune 50 companies to small organizations in almost every industry imaginable around the world.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Susan will teach you:

    Why attempting to motivate people is a losing proposition

    The psychological needs that all high-performing team members have

    How to create a working environment that enables you and your team to thrive


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    Show Notes:

    02:51 – Why Susan Fowler wrote Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work… and What Does
    04:47 – The real definition of motivation
    05:31 – Why attempting to motivate people is a losing proposition, no matter your resources
    06:49 – The difference between optimal and sub-optimal motivation
    10:19 – Why certain incentives can be the “junk food” of motivation
    13:45 – The three psychological needs that all people have (autonomy, relatedness, and competence)
    19:39 – The importance of providing choices
    22:40 – How to foster the physiological need for connection in a working environment
    24:11 – How to determine what your and your team members’ values are
    27:46 – What to do when your values as a leader are not aligned with your team members’ values
    30:18 – Why all of our values are subject to evolution
    31:00 – How to make your team more competent
    34:48 – Why asking someone “What motivates you?” is a bad idea
    38:22 – Why money does motivate people, but not in the way that you think
    43:41 – Why leaders should ask what they want for their people (not just what they want from them)
    47:33 – How to overcome “Quiet Quitting” and create an environment where people want to stay
    50:44 – What being a game changer means to Susan Fowler

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    Links & Resources


    Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work… and What Does by Susan Fowler

    YouTube

    B.F. Skinner

    Operant Conditioning


    Master Your Motivation: Three Scientific Truths for Achieving Your Goals by Susan Fowler

    Self-determination theory

    Dr. Edward Deci

    Dr. Richard Ryan

    IBM

    Garry Ridge

    Dr. Jacques Forest

    Drea Zigarmi

    Mark Cuban

    Anne Brafford

    The Prevalence of Substance Use and Other Mental Health Concerns Among American Attorneys

    Binge Drinking by Occupation Groups among Currently Employed U.S. Adults

    2022 Report on the State of the Legal Market: Despite a strong year, numerous & growing challenges confront law firms

    Institute For Well-Being In Law

    McKinsey & Company: Winning back your workers


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  • Dr. Ayelet Fishbach, the Jeffrey Breakenridge Keller Professor of Behavioral Science and Marketing at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, is an expert in driving behavioral change. She's even authored a book on the subject.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Dr. Fishbach delves into the realities of behavioral change, discussing:

    The distinction between self-control and willpower

    The influence of our surroundings on our actions

    How setbacks and failures can boost our motivation



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    Show Notes:

    02:34 – Why Dr. Ayelet Fishbach wrote Get It Done
    03:32 – The essential ingredients to successful behavior change
    05:02 – Why your goals should feel more like aspirations than chores
    07:02 – The difference between “Do” goals and “Do Not” goals
    09:19 – The dangers of setting abstract goals
    11:00 – The power of numerical targets
    13:23 – How to know when your goal is too optimistic
    15:32 – When it makes sense to use an incentive structure to support goal achievement
    18:06 – How to determine if you’re using the right incentive
    20:43 – How intrinsic motivation impacts the likelihood of achieving your goals
    24:38 – The Goal Gradient Effect (how progress impacts our motivation)
    27:45 – Why you should keep the “middle” phase as short as possible
    30:31 – How to reframe negative feedback as an effective means of making progress
    34:25 – Applying Angela Duckworth’s research on grit to motivation and achieving goals
    36:35 – The role of self-control in sticking to your goals
    39:39 – How your willpower and your environment impact your self-control
    43:04 – How to juggle multiple goals
    46:12 – The role of patience in sticking with and achieving goals
    48:01 – How your heroes and anti-role models can motivate you to achieve your goals
    52:05 – What being a game changer means to Dr. Ayelet Fishbach
     

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    Links & Resources


    Get It Done by Dr. Ayelet Fishbach

    Angela Duckworth


    Grit by Angela Duckworth 


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  • Are you grinding in your office, feeling productive, and then looking up to realize it’s 6pm and today’s job is nowhere near done?

    Got a team in place to execute the day-to-day work but their quality and results are far from consistent?

    Or are you a visionary leader chock full of ideas but just can’t get your team to move fast enough and actually act on them?

    If you answered “Yes” to any of these questions, this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Jessica Mogill — Head of Coaching Strategy and operational mastermind — is for you.

    In just 25 minutes, you’ll gain the insights you need to move from “How?” to “DONE!”
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    Key Quotes:

    “‘Urgency fixes problems — importance solves them for good.”

    “Inspect what you expect from your team.”

    “Greatness lies in effective implementation, not just vision.”



    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    How to determine what projects and tasks are really worth your time

    Why creating a process is half the battle

    How to execute relentlessly and ensure nothing falls through the cracks

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    Show Notes:

    03:06 – Why you, as the law firm owner, do NOT have to manage processes and operations
    04:29 – How to streamline your workflow and focus on high-impact activities
    06:55 – Why Post-it Notes are not a scalable project management tool
    08:17 – How to shift from a task-management mindset to a priority-management mindset
    10:14 – How to standardize client interactions and ensure every client receives the same level of care and attention
    13:04 – How to keep a pulse on your firm’s caseload with thousands of active cases
    16:41 – How to empower your team to turn your ideas into executed operations and results
    19:31 – Why you must set clear expectations before handing off a project 
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    Links & Resources

    Evernote

    Todoist

    ClickUp

    Slack

    Walt Disney

    Salesforce

    Big Hero 6

    Kolbe A™ Index

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    #140 Chris Ronzio – Building and Leveraging a Business Playbook

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  • How many of us can honestly say we're making the most out of life? Are we truly harnessing our energy every day to ensure no moment is wasted? Are we wisely investing our time, money, and health to make every second count?

    Introducing Bill Perkins, a man dedicated to helping people live fully and find joy in life — before it's too late.

    In this thought-provoking episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Bill and Michael explore:

    How your life is the total of your experiences

    The unconventional financial advice that might transform your life

    Why delaying gratification could lead to your greatest regret



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    Show Notes:

    02:25 – Why Bill Perkins wrote Die With Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life

    04:22 – Who Die With Zero will resonate most with

    06:42 – Why the things that fulfill you will change over time

    08:28 – How Bill built his financial model (a counterfactual regret minimization algorithm)

    10:08 – Why delayed gratification at its extreme is no gratification

    12:02 – The power of memory dividends and the ROI on experiences

    15:50 – The balance between investing in the future and investing in your well-being today

    23:34 – Bill’s message to all the people who say “I love my work, I don’t want to retire.”

    32:17 – Economists say “Spend,” and financial planners say “Save.” – who’s right?

    33:47 – How to rationalize insurance without sacrificing your present-day fulfillment

    39:24 – Why you probably don’t need as much money as you think to fund a great life

    45:44 – What a day in the life of Bill Perkins looks like

    50:33 – What being a game changer means to Bill Perkins
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    Links & Resources


    Die With Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life by Bill Perkins

    Winnie the Pooh

    Wall Street

    Ironman Marathon

    Mount Kilimanjaro


    The Big Bang Theory (Television show)

    Seinfeld

    Game of Thrones

    Stephen Curry

    JP Morgan


    DocuSign 


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    #187 Dan Martell – Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire

    #233 AMMA – How to Find Meaning In the Journey

  • Leadership transcends individual contributions. It’s about deliberate influence and driving results through others. 

    How can leaders effectively balance empowering teams with upholding high standards?

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill discuss:

    Strategies to empower middle managers for delegation and growth

    The role of termination in defining your law firm’s culture

    Why successful organizations operate as cohesive teams rather than individual entities



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    Show Notes:

    04:37 – How to empower a manager to elevate when they struggle to delegate

    08:05 – How to advance your career by setting others up for success

    09:28 – How to balance a supportive culture with a results-driven culture

    11:03 – Why business is a team sport

    12:08 – How to run a cost/benefit analysis on your team members

    13:19 – What happens when you keep a high-performing yet toxic team member around

    15:55 – How to navigate communicating a below-average performance review to a once high-performing team member

    17:32 – What your law firm can learn from Netflix when it comes to HR

    19:23 – Why the NFL is the ultimate business model

    21:27 – Why change is the only constant (grow or die)

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    Links & Resources

    LASIK eye surgery

    David Goggins

    John Maxwell

    Mark Lanier

    Michael Jordan

    Kobe Bryant

    Wayne Gretzky

    Netflix


    No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings


    Cy Wakeman

    NFL

    The Heisman Trophy


    iPad 


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  • Meet Roland Frasier: a serial entrepreneur, esteemed business strategist, and marketing maestro. With five businesses under his belt, all featured on Inc. Magazine's list of fastest-growing companies, Roland is the epitome of business acumen.

    He doesn't just build businesses — he scales them to new heights. His fervor for business growth, penchant for fostering enduring connections with fellow entrepreneurs, and knack for spotting emerging opportunities embody the game changing mindset.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Roland and Michael Mogill take a deep dive into:

    The commonalities of the most successful businesses

    Why once-in-a-lifetime-opportunities are more common than we assume

    How to scale your law firm through strategic acquisition



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    02:19 – Roland’s early days as an entrepreneur

    03:58 – Why Roland went to law school 

    05:14 – Roland’s thoughts on the hourly billing model

    07:08 – The impact of outside capital investing in the legal industry

    09:42 – How Roland determines the proper value of a business

    13:22 – The different levers that can be pulled to scale a law firm

    15:34 – How to acquire a business when you have little to no capital

    16:50 – The concept of leverage when acquiring or scaling a business

    21:40 – The “red flag” factors to watch out for when considering a business acquisition

    23:45 – Roland’s biggest business regret

    25:48 – Roland’s biggest business victory

    28:24 – How Roland prepares for business ventures across new and different industries

    30:49 – The commonalities between the most successful businesses

    31:36 – The commonalities between the least successful businesses

    34:15 – How to navigate threats in your market and capitalize on opportunities

    36:31 – The power of a world-class brand

    40:05 – The skills that every leader should have to put their businesses in the best place to succeed 

    44:08 – The best advice and the worst advice that Roland has ever received

    45:21 – What keeps Roland engaged, energized, and excited today

    47:21 – What being a game changer means to Roland

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    Links & Resources

    Roland Frasier

    Skinner Studies on Operant Conditioning

    Rule 5.4

    Facebook Groups

    McKinsey & Company – Customer Experience: Creating Value Through Transforming Customer Journeys

    Amazon

    Andreessen Horowitz

    Rolls Royce

    Bentley

    Mercedes-Benz

    Game Changers Summit 3



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  • Your business is perfectly designed to get you the results that you’re getting. Not satisfied with the status quo? 

    Discover the X factor that propels the nation’s top law firms to unprecedented success.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill will teach you:

    The playbook for transforming your law firm from 8 to 9 figures

    How to free yourself from the soul-sucking day-to-day grind

    Why leverage is the single most important factor in growing your business



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    04:06 – How to grow an 8-figure law firm to a 9-figure law firm

    08:56 – Why you have to take different actions if you want different results

    11:19 – How to get out of the operational tasks and break free from the day-to-day grind

    13:15 – The difference between doing everything and being accountable for everything

    16:56 – The X Factor that separates the best law firm owners from the rest

    18:54 – Why leverage and courage will take you to the top

    23:44 – What you can learn from George Costanza (taking the “opposite” approach)

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    Links & Resources

    Schrödinger's cat

    Jenga

    EOS


    Traction by Gino Wickman

    Elon Musk

    Tim Cook

    Apple

    Tom Brady

    Nick Saban

    Mt. Everest

    Crisp HQ

    Game Changers Summit


    George Costanza 


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    #243 AMMA – Success Without Safety Nets: The Entrepreneurial Journey

  • Every person you know belongs to a community. It's where we find belonging, voice, and family. Robert Simon, Founder of Justice HQ and Simon Law Group, has mastered the art of community-building.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Bob and Michael delve into:

    Rising from nothing to build an empire

    The paramount importance of prioritizing family

    Keys to living your best life



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    Show Notes:

    02:09 – How Bob’s over-the-top marketing gets attention and results

    04:17 – Bob’s origin story and superhero influence

    07:22 – Bob’s journey through law school (working hard and playing hard)

    09:38 – Marketing your firm when there’s nothing to lose

    11:31 – The life of a hungry hustler

    13:09 – How Simon Law Group became a family affair

    15:48 – How to build a community of advocates and goodwill

    17:05 – The Justice HQ Network and Community

    20:17 – Why a generous spirit creates the most wealth

    23:10 – How Bob builds a team of loyal and collegial high-performers

    27:29 – How to balance your quality of life with an ambitious mindset

    29:22 – Bob’s biggest advocate (Christine Bullock)

    31:58 – Bob’s inspiration for starting the Law-Di-Gras conference

    34:34 – The habits that keep Bob engaged and motivated

    37:14 – How Bob is raising resilient kids

    41:52 – The best and worst advice Bob has ever received

    43:59 – What being a game changer means to Bob

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    Links & Resources

    Justice HQ

    Simon Law Group

    Marvel 

    Pepperdine University

    McDonald’s


    You Can’t Teach Hungry by John Morgan

    Game Changers Summit

    Law-Di-Gras

    Snoop Dogg

    Rev Run

    Nelly


    Flo Rida 


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  • Today, the influence of a dedicated attorney extends far beyond the courtroom — and David Craig is seizing this opportunity. As one of the nation's top trucking lawyers, David has diversified his impact through hosting a podcast, authoring his debut book, and crafting future plans to transform his clients' lives.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, David and Michael Mogill delve into:

    The significance of sharing expertise, fostering trust, and generating demand

    The pivotal role of empathy and respect in achieving greatness

    Insights into becoming a leading figure in trucking law



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    Show Notes:

    02:46 – David’s humble beginnings

    06:53 – Why David almost didn’t go to college (or law school)

    09:26 – How David played to his strengths and found his passion as a trial lawyer

    11:26 – Why David chose to switch sides (from defending corporations to representing plaintiffs)

    14:39 – How David took the leap and started his own law firm

    17:29 – How to go build a multi-million dollar trucking law practice

    21:18 – Why David wrote his book, Semi-Truck Wreck and the significance of this practice area

    24:35 – The skill sets and capabilities required to be an effective entrepreneurial law firm owner

    28:10 – David’s pivotal cancer diagnosis and the shift in his perspective and business strategy

    33:13 – Why obsession can be a great trait and how to surround yourself with supporters

    36:18 – How to be grateful, but not complacent

    38:05 – What it takes to sustain growth as a trucking lawyer

    39:54 – How to attract and retain a team of legal A-players

    41:35 – What being a game changer means to David



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    Links & Resources

    After the Crash Podcast

    Craig, Kelley & Faultless

    Joe Fried

    ATAA


    Semitruck Wreck: A Guide for Victims and Their Families by David Craig

    Crisp

    CrispX


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  • In a world where leadership often blurs the lines between empowerment and enablement, there exists a pivotal choice: to foster growth or hinder progress. 

    But how do you navigate the fine line between those options where constant accessibility seems like the norm?

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill will teach you:

    How to protect yourself from those pesky ‘Got a minute?’ inquiries

    Why leaders cannot and should not be accessible to everyone

    Why saying “No” is about liberation, not limitation



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    Show Notes:

    03:04 – How to be accessible while also having the time to do your own work

    05:54 – How to set boundaries as a leader

    06:56 – Why you shouldn’t be available to everyone in your organization

    09:26 – Why growth requires change (and how to deal with those who resist it)

    12:47 – How to handle situations where saying “No” will disappoint your team

    14:45 – Why providing context is key when you shut something down

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    Links & Resources

    Google

    ChatGPT


    Facebook 


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  • In the realm of business and sports, the parallels are striking. Both arenas demand strong leadership, cohesive teamwork, and unwavering dedication to a common goal.

    Jason Hehir, the mastermind behind the groundbreaking documentary series The Last Dance, offers unique insights into this dynamic. Through chronicling Michael Jordan's extraordinary career, Hehir not only captured tales of triumph and defeat but also lived them firsthand.

    In this captivating episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Jason joins Michael Mogill to explore:

    Evolving from a novice to a leader and navigating the ensuing complexities

    The transformative power of embracing a healthy fear of failure

    Discovering the importance of cultivating your authentic voice for personal and professional success



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    03:14 – What fueled Jason’s passion for sports and cinematography

    04:44 – Jason’s humble creative beginnings

    07:23 – How Jason builds strong teams

    10:11 – Jason’s take on a healthy fear of failure

    14:53 – How Jason got involved in HBO’s Andre The Giant documentary

    19:31 – Jason’s creative project growth and evolution

    23:12 – The preparation that went into The Last Dance

    28:35 – Jason’s first meeting with Michael Jordan

    33:34 – How Jason balanced multiple brands’ desire for creative control

    35:11 – Why The Last Dance became one of the most highly-regarded sports documentaries of all time

    37:26 – How Jason pivoted to creating the Countdown series capturing the SpaceX mission

    40:19 – Capturing and editing footage from space

    43:35 – What the highest-performing people have in common

    48:49 – Jason’s upcoming projects and what keeps him excited

    50:48 – How Jason is scaling his impact

    50:35 – What being a game changer means to Jason


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    Links & Resources

    NBC


    André the Giant (documentary)


    The Last Dance (documentary)

    NBA

    Michael Jordan


    Jordan (brand)

    ESPN

    Netflix


    Jalen Rose 


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  • Being right and making progress aren't always two sides of the same coin. But, as a leader, when does it make sense to change your mind?

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill take a deep dive into:

    The balance between tightly held values and loosely held beliefs

    The power of empathy and considering alternative points of view 

    Why embracing change is not just the key to growth, but the essence of transformation



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    Show Notes:

    03:55 – Michael’s change of heart (and mindset)

    07:33 – What happens when you admit that you’re wrong

    10:54 – What to do when you think something’s a “sure thing”

    12:27 – The 2 constants in life

    16:26 – How to evolve and navigate change

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    Links & Resources

    2018 Game Changers Summit

    Who Not How by Dan Sullivan

    TikTok

    EVOLVE Summit


    Apple Vision Pro 


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  • In a world where comfort is often prioritized over challenge, Joe De Sena — the pioneering mind behind the Spartan Race — offers a compelling counter-narrative. He champions the idea that true fulfillment comes not from ease, but from overcoming obstacles and embracing discomfort head-on.

    On this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Joe and Michael take a deep dive into:

    The transformative power of personal accountability in navigating life's challenges

    Strategies for fostering a resilient mindset that thrives in adversity

    Why venturing outside our comfort zones is essential for unlocking our full potential and experiencing genuine happiness



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    02:38 — Why the majority of people are lazy

    04:28 — Why human beings avoid discomfort

    05:22 — Why people are depressed

    08:02 — Why food tastes so much better when you’re hungry

    10:14 — How Joe developed mental toughness

    11:32 — How to manufacture adversity in your life

    13:29 — What the other side of adversity feels like

    15:14 — Joe’s obstacle-racing catalyst

    19:03 — Why Joe started the Spartan Race

    21:07 — What "Suffering Together" means

    23:26 — The difference between "difficult" and "desperate"

    25:16 — Joe’s advice to anyone who wants to do a Spartan Race

    29:38 — How to raise resilient kids

    32:21 — The application of "Fire. Ready. Aim." 

    34:41 — Tactical ways to do hard things

    39:56 — How Joe describes success

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    Links & Resources

    Netflix


    The Menu (film)

    Wendy’s

    Shackelton’s Expedition

    Sir Edmund Hillary

    Spartan Race

    Tough Mudder Event

    Wall Street

    The Transcendence Run


    Iditarod 

    Saks Fifth Avenue

    Nike

    Facebook

    Goldman Sachs

    Mat Fraser

    Green Beret


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