Bethany "Fidgit" Hughes on Hiking, Biking, and Paddling 20,000+ Miles Across the Americas

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In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are once again joined by Bethany “Fidgit” Hughes. Fidget has hiked, paddled, and cycled more than 22,000 miles across 25 countries as one half of the Her Odyssey Expedition, a human-powered endeavor to connect the Americas following the longest chain of mountains in the world while telling the story of the land and its inhabitants, a journey she completed in August 2022.

Bethany was last on the podcast more than 5 years ago, when she had completed the South American leg of this wild expedition, she catches us up with her and her partner’s journey through Central and North America. We go deep on how she navigates the more unsafe sections of this journey, especially through Central America and Mexico and navigating the cartel, dodging crocodiles, canoeing the 3,000+ mile Arctic Drainage to reach the Arctic Ocean, and much, much more. This one is full of engaging stories, you will not be disappointed.

We wrap the show with news of the first woman to complete the Barkley Marathons, a deadly mountain lion attack in California, and the triple crown of breakfasts.

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Interview with Bethany “Fidgit” Hughes

Her Odyssey Website Her Odyssey Instagram Her Odyssey Youtube Backpacker Radio Episode 25: Bethany “Fidgit” Hughes on Trekking the Length of the Americas

Time stamps & Questions

00:04:08 - Reminders: We will be at Trail Days! And…subscribe to us on Youtube!

00:05:07 - (Re)introducing Bethany

00:06:23 - Tell us about your recent 10 day silent retreat

00:16:25 - Did you have moments where you wanted to speak?

00:18:30 - Give us the summary of what part of the odyssey you’d completed the last time you were on the podcast

00:23:00 - What was the timeline of going across Central America?

00:25:58 - How would you describe your appreciation for bikepacking?

00:28:24 - Do you find that elitism is more prevalent in bikepacking than thru-hiking?

00:33:10 - If someone wanted to do a similar route, what advice would you offer?

00:37:26 - How many scenarios felt unsafe during the Central American portion?

00:42:08 - Did you find the State Department’s advisories helpful?

00:43:28 - Are there extra safety precautions for solo female travelers?

00:47:38 - What other safety methods do you recommend?

00:50:45 - What were some of the highlights of the Central American portion of your route?

00:53:33 - Is there a crocodile protocol?

00:57:50 - Where did you go after kayaking in Panama?

01:00:25 - How safe did you feel in Mexico?

01:05:50 - How did you learn these trends and strategies?

01:08:23 - Is it easy to spot a gangster?

01:10:44 - Tell us about jumping over to the Baja California Peninsula

01:13:20 - Did you have any weird encounters along the US-Mexico border?

01:20:00 - Discussion about the evolution of trail magic and entitlement

01:22:36 - How do you recommend people participate in a gift-giving culture?

01:28:07 - Tell us any standout stories from hiking the CDT

01:33:20 - Do you think Her Odyssey has made you more adaptable as a thru-hiker?

01:40:22 - Tell us about the Great Divide Trail

01:46:25 - What are Treaty Days?

01:48:38 - Discussion about climate change along the route

01:51:05 - Discussion about the paddling trip to the Arctic Ocean

01:59:00 - How did you develop paddling skills?

02:01:16 - Did your caloric needs increase on the paddling portion of the odyssey?

02:02:18 - Bethany’s hot take on umbrellas

02:05:40 - Where can people learn more about you?

Segments

Trek Propaganda

1 Killed, 1 Injured in California Mountain Lion Attack by Kelly Floro Jasmin Paris Becomes First Woman Ever To Complete Barkley Marathons by Kelly Floro

QOTD: How excited are we to have Elise back on BPR?

Triple Crown of breakfasts

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AT vs. PCT Panel: Gear, Culture, and Logistics with Abby Evans and Hannah Goodman
16 set· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek and brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are doing a thorough breakdown of the differences and similarities between the Appalachian Trail and the Pacific Crest Trail. We are joined by Trek Bloggers, Abby Evans, aka “Shitwater Fireball: Queer of the Salamanders" and Hannah “Spring” Goodman, who are both 2024 PCT thru-hikers, and had previously thru-hiked the AT as well. We talk about the differences in overall difficulty, including weather, terrain, logistics, and gear, the difference in trail cultures, the various highs and lows, and ultimately, each person gives which of the two trails they prefer overall. The results may surprise you.

We wrap the show with some news of a positive update on the new Lyme disease vaccine, who we would trade bodies with and what we would do first, the triple crown of streaming services, and a reader prompts Chaunce into giving us a more detailed breakdown about the time she pooped into a mountain house bag in her tent.

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Panel with Abby Evans aka “Shitwater Fireball” and Hannah “Spring” Goodman
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Time stamps & Questions

00:05:30 - Reminders: Come to our Brooklyn meetup TODAY (September 16)! And support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content and get your tickets for our live Denver show on December 7!

00:07:50 - Introducing Shitwater & Spring

00:09:03 - Spring, how did you get into the outdoors?

00:10:20 - Shitwater, how did you get into the outdoors?

00:12:57 - What are your trail name origin stories?

00:16:00 - What backpacking trips did you do before the AT?

00:17:08 - How has your PCT experience been?

00:18:27 - Zach & Chaunce’s AT/PCT experience

00:19:10 - AT vs. PCT: Overall difficulty

00:25:00 - Discussion about fire logistics and impacts

00:28:16 - Zach & Chaunce’s difficulty comparison between the trails

00:32:30 - Discussion about hike mindset between the AT and PCT

00:47:22 - What was the hardest part of skipping miles on the PCT?

01:01:00 - AT vs. PCT: Social experience

01:11:35 - Do you think being on trail was a good place to process the breakup?

01:18:00 - Chaunce’s trail social experiences

01:33:25 - AT vs. PCT: Gear differences

01:50:20 - How much rain did you experience on the PCT?

01:54:40 - AT vs. PCT: Highs and lows

02:14:20 - If you could only pick on trail for the rest of your life, which would you pick?

02:17:30 - Where can we keep up with you?

Segments

Rapid Fire Interviews
James “Almost Famous” Townsend Rachael “Pack Rat” Davis Katherine “Willy” Baals Sean Durkin aka TreeBeard
Trek Propaganda: Lyme Disease Vaccine Passes Stage Three Trials by Kimberly Featherston

QOTD: If you could trade bodies with someone for a day who would be and what would you do first?

Triple Crown of streaming services

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Elina Osborne on “It Is The People”, Her PCT Documentary, Videography, and Storytelling
9 set· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Elina Osborne. Elina is a thru-hiker, filmmaker, adventurer, and storyteller. Four years ago, Elina released a 15-minute documentary about her PCT thru-hike, titled "It Is The People", which has since accumulated nearly three-quarters of a million views on YouTube. We learn all about Elina's entry into film and storytelling, her process, equipment, and advice she has for future documentarians. She also gives us a preview of a new film currently in the works about her hike of The Hayduke alongside a past guest of Backpacker Radio.

We wrap the show with some rapid fire conversations with Trek bloggers we met at PCT Trail Days, the Triple Crown of things we document during a thru-hike, and the maximum number of times we can conceivably enjoy getting dressed up over the course of a year, and much more.

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Interview with Elina Osborne
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Time stamps & Questions

00:04:30 - Reminders: Join us in Brooklyn on September 16 and support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:06:41 - Introducing Elina

00:08:30 - What’s your trail name story?

00:09:28 - What was your entry into the outdoors?

00:11:27 - What is the hiking and backpacking culture like in New Zealand?

00:15:40 - How did you get into storytelling?

00:18:35 - How do you realize you’re in a cult?

00:21:22 - Was there backlash when you left?

00:23:19 - How did your first documentary inform your future hiking projects?

00:25:15 - How would you describe It Is The People?

00:27:19 - What was your PCT hike like socially?

00:31:00 - Discussion about offiating weddings

00:33:40 - Did you go into the hike planning to focus on people in your documentary?

00:37:02 - Did you intend to make it a series?

00:38:56 - Is it hard to get the camera out when you’re having a fun moment on trail?

00:40:15 - How do you find a balance between filming a hike and hiking in order to film?

00:42:23 - How do you plan who needs to film what?

00:43:25 - Do you look back at the PCT film and see things you would want to change?

00:45:17 - Do you still use the same approach for current film projects?

00:48:44 - Tell us about working for the New Zealand police department

00:52:07 - What was your wildest day on the job?

00:54:30 - Is it challenging to collaborate with other filmmakers while hiking?

00:57:10 - Did you butt heads on the Hayduke?

01:02:30 - Do you have an idea of where the Hayduke documentary will land?

01:05:34 - How do you make editing work on a team project?

01:10:30 - What are your next hiking adventures?

01:15:40 - What is your process for deciding what the story will be?

01:18:10 - Are there any storytellers you’re inspired by right now?

01:21:27 - Do you have advice for others who want to document their hiking experience?

01:23:10 - Who is your primary audience?

01:24:01 - Kumo Question: What is your dream vacation destination?

01:27:50 - What is the highlights tour of New Zealand?

01:32:00 - Where can people go to keep up with you?

Segments

Rapid Fire Interviews
Angie aka “The Little Mermaid” Elizabeth aka “Bags Bunny” Sakari aka “Paw Patrol” Christopher Smiley
Triple Crown of the things you document on a long trail

QOTD: What’s the maximum number of times in the year you can enjoy getting dressed up?

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Cam Bostock on Amassing 600K+ Instagram Followers, Adventuring in Australia vs. the USA, and Hiking the Pacific Crest Trail
2 set· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Cam Bostock. With more than 600K Followers, Cam is a bonafide Instagram hiking celebrity. Cam teaches us all about his home, the great country of Australia, including his adventures on the Bibbulmun Track and Munda Biddi Trail, in addition to how often someone needs to fistfight a kangaroo, the frequency of deadly snake encounters, and other stereotypically dumb American questions. We also learn all about Cam's PCT trek, including all that goes into creating a polished Instagram Reel for every day of his hike, his favorite moments from the trail, and the biggest cultural differences between hiking in the US and Australia.

We wrap the show with an overview of our time at PCT Trail Days, hint: we were dangerously close to Thunder Island Brewing, if Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays are odd or even, and the triple crown of meat.

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Interview with Cam Bostock
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Time stamps & Questions

00:02:30 - PCT Days Recap

00:24:40 - Reminders: Join us in Brooklyn on September 16 and support us on Patreon for bonus content!

00:28:00 - Introducing Cam

00:30:43 - Do you have a trail name?

00:31:45 - What was your intro into long distance backpacking?

00:32:23 - What are the basics of the Bibbulmun Track?

00:34:00 - Discussion about Australian wildlife

00:40:04 - What’s the ideal season for the Bibbulmun Track?

00:42:15 - How popular is the Bibbulmun Track?

00:42:53 - How does the culture of long distance hiking in Australia compare to the US?

00:45:20 - Discussion about vegemite

00:46:30 - What other cultural differences have you noticed in the US?

00:47:35 - How did you choose the PCT?

00:48:16 - Tell us about the Munda Biddi Trail

00:50:28 - What other Australian trails are you interested in?

00:53:10 - Tell us about stand up paddleboard touring

00:56:04 - What’s the culture around outdoor sports in Australia?

01:01:50 - Do you have standout stories from the Te Araroa?

01:05:28 - Who’s the biggest Australian celebrity?

01:06:50 - FMK: stand up paddleboarding, backpacking, and mountain biking

01:07:45 - How did you get so many Instagram followers?

01:10:10 - What do you think attributes to that many followers?

01:11:20 - How do you manage your content creation while hiking every day?

01:13:00 - What apps do you use?

01:14:35 - Do you think content creation adds or takes away from your hike?

01:16:50 - Discussion about monetizing content

01:18:00 - How long have you been with your tramily?

01:22:00 - What’s the strangest outreach you’ve gotten while on the PCT?

01:25:07 - What do you miss most about your wife?

01:27:05 - How have you been dealing with the fire situation on the PCT?

01:31:00 - Have you thought about hiking the Oregon Coast Trail?

01:34:02 - What is your approach to social media content?

01:37:02 - What are your top 2 or 3 stories from the PCT?

01:40:20 - What has been your best day on the PCT so far?

01:42:42 - What has been your scariest day on trail?

01:44:30 - What would your advice be for someone who wants to hike the PCT from abroad?

01:47:50 - How much would you tell someone to budget for the PCT?

01:50:15 - What’s next?

01:51:07 - Kumo Question: What is your spirit animal and why?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Black Bear That Mauled 3-Year-Old Girl Near Yellowstone Has Been Euthanized by Kelly Floro

QOTD: Are Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays even days and Tuesdays, Thursdays odd days or vice versa?

Triple Crown of meat

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Jeffrey James Binney on Being a Plus-Sized Ultrarunner, TikTok Fame, and the PCT
26 ago· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are at PCT Trail Days! Our guest today is Jeffrey James Binney, a modern-day renaissance man who is an award-winning filmmaker, motivational speaker, ultrarunning athlete, and PCT hiker. We learn all about Jeffrey's story, including how losing his mom at a young age inspired him to pursue endurance sports, what it's like for a gay vegetarian to grow up in a rural pig farm in the midwest, his entry into improv and stand-up comedy, how he went from not being able to run a city block to a 100-mile race, making uber-viral dance TikTok videos, his favorite moments from his PCT hike, and much more.

We wrap the show by grabbing the first hiker we found off the street here in Cascade Locks and forcing her to join us for segments and being blessed with an all-time trail hookup story in the process.

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Interview with Jeffrey James Binney
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Time stamps & Questions

00:05:25 - Reminders: Join us in Brooklyn for a hiker meetup on September 16 and support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:07:50 - Introducing Jeffrey

00:09:08 - What’s your origin story for getting into endurance sports?

00:12:10 - Were you surprised to enjoy running the first time you did it as an adult?

00:15:45 - What was the first 100 mile race you attempted?

00:19:05 - Tell us about being a recovering comedian

00:21:02 - Which performance art makes you the most nervous?

00:23:00 - Hiking themed improv

00:25:00 - Tell us about your film

00:30:11 - Tell us about being vegetarian on trail and growing up on a pig farm

00:33:27 - Did your dad push back at all on your vegetarianism?

00:37:45 - Tell us about your TikTok dances

00:45:45 - How has thru hiking compared to ultrarunning?

00:46:40 - What advice do you have for someone interested in ultrarunning?

00:50:33 - Discussion about thru-hiking culture

00:51:54 - How do you determine your weekly volume and pacing?

00:55:57 - What have your favorite moments from the PCT been so far?

01:00:45 - If you can only do thru-hiking or ultrarunning for the rest of your life, which would you pick?

01:01:50 - Is your husband worried you’ll want to do more long distance hiking?

01:04:34 - Discussion about Jeffrey’s Brooks sponsorship

01:09:00 - Discussion about Jeffrey’s manager

01:11:30 - What do you want to convey to listeners about overcoming fear?

01:14:24 - Is losing enthusiasm for thru-hiking common on all long trails?

01:23:24 - Discussion about tramily and hiking alone

01:27:06 - How much of the trail have you spent doing your own thing?

01:29:12 - Kumo Question: What is the most boring superpower you can think of?

01:33:10 - Tell us about your upcoming TrovaTrip

01:34:30 - Where can people go to keep up with you?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Is It Safe To Keep Hiking in Wildfire Smoke? by Kelly Floro

Random Hiker Interview: Clumsy

QOTD: I say a number, you say the color

Triple Crown of recurring dream themes

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Zach Hiked the Weminuchoo Choo Loop (and His Biggest Backpacking Blunder Yet)
19 ago· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, Zach takes on the role of guest. This episode recaps his recent hike through the Weminuche Wilderness, a 40-mile loop he’s coined the "Weminuchoo Choo Loop." It’s bound to catch on. Zach gives a full overview of the hike, covering the distance, elevation gain, alternate route options, trail highlights, wildlife, and more. He also shares a story about perhaps his biggest backcountry blunder to date—an expensive mistake, and one he had the distinct pleasure of having a witness for. Additionally, Zach discusses some new gear he tested on this trip, including a piece that will forever change his water retrieval system.

The episode wraps up with sun protection tips for the backcountry, the triple crown of the easiest items to forget to pack for a backpacking trip, whether it’s acceptable to put ketchup on a hot dog, and a listener’s valuable tips about backpacking Patagonia’s O-Circuit.

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Time stamps & Questions

00:05:00 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content and join us in NYC this September 16 for a hiker meetup!

00:09:45 - Introducing Zach

00:10:20 - Overview of Zach’s original plans and adapted plans in the Weminuche

00:13:38 - The train logistics

00:19:32 - What’s the overview of the route?

00:22:10 - Zach’s big blunder

00:28:10 - What was the aftermath of the blunder?

00:31:30 - How did you navigate the remainder of the hike?

00:32:50 - Will you start using paper maps?

00:34:10 - What other blunders occurred?

00:36:24 - Day 1

00:40:45 - Day 2

00:48:00 - Day 3

00:54:04 - What other wildlife did you see?

00:55:09 - How was the water situation?

00:55:32 - Did you need permits?

00:55:45 - Would you hike it with a dog?

00:56:19 - How would you recommend making it longer?

00:57:47 - Elk Park to Needleton on AllTrails

00:58:32 - What gear did you bring?

01:01:24 - What tent did you use?

01:05:30 - What was the weather like?

01:07:14 - You wore a sun hoodie?

01:10:30 - Is it worth flying into Durango rather than Denver if you want to do this hike?

01:12:40 - Kumo Question: If animals could talk, which one would be the most annoying?

01:15:00 - Final thoughts on the Weminuchoo Choo Loop

Segments

Trek Propaganda: The Essential Gear for Sun Protection on Your Thru-Hike by Ariella Nardizzi

QOTD: Ketchup on a hot dog?

Triple Crown of easiest things to forget to pack for a backpacking trip

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Justin Simoni, the Long Ranger, on Creating Ridge Routes and Hiking the Highest Hundred Peaks in Colorado
12 ago· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Justin Simoni aka the Long Ranger. In addition to established routes like the Tour Divide and Nolan’s 14, Justin also creates his own - he’s traversed the Sangre de Cristo Range, Mosquito and Tenmile Ranges, and from Milner to Berthoud Pass along the divide. And while summiting all of Colorado’s 14,000 ft peaks is an effort in itself, Justin summited the top 100 highest mountains in the state after biking to them from his home in Boulder. We talk about all of the nitty gritty details of taking on these ridgeline routes, why he lives car-free, a detailed measurement of how much weight and water he lost over the course of a grueling day hike, some of his current favorite gear, and more.

We wrap the show with an overview of some of the best loop hikes in the United States, what we would telepathically say to all 8 billion people on earth, and the triple crown of things on our bedside table.

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Interview with Justin Simoni aka the Long Ranger
Justin’s Website Justin's Instagram Justin’s Youtube
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:50 - Reminders: Mark your calendar for our Brooklyn, NY meetup on September 16, support us on Patreon, check out Chaunce & Elise’s TCT hike on Youtube, and leave us a voicemail!

00:13:10 - Introducing Justin

00:14:10 - Tell us about your water loss experiment

00:19:15 - Have you done other similar studies?

00:20:25 - What was your food intake like during the experiment?

00:22:15 - What is your primary focus in your personal trinity of mountain arts?

00:24:20 - You don’t own a car?

00:26:00 - How did you originally get into the outdoors?

00:28:50 - How many times have you summitted Green Mountain?

00:31:50 - Tell us about the Milner to Berthoud Pass Traverse

00:34:25 - Is it stressful to do high consequence moves while trying to go quickly?

00:35:50 - How does this traverse compare to others that you’ve done?

00:37:40 - Did you notice an uptick in FKTs in 2020?

00:38:31 - What was the most challenging part of the Vanishing Point?

00:41:00 - What instrument do you play?

00:43:00 - What’s your camping setup?

00:43:30 - How do you avoid thunderstorms?

00:47:00 - What does spike your anxiety?

00:48:00 - How do you prevent making careless errors?

00:50:10 - The Mosquito/Ten Mile Range Traverse

00:53:03 - How many scouting trips did you do for the Vanishing Point project?

00:54:12 - Do you get bored while hiking?

00:56:00 - What do you do for work?

00:57:50 - What are your thoughts on sun hoodies?

01:00:25 - How did it feel to be the first person to complete the Vanishing Point project?

01:01:33 - What are the most significant ways you’ve changed after completing projects?

01:03:00 - Do you experience post trail depression?

01:04:30 - What do you do for water on your trips?

01:07:50 - Tell us about the Sangre de Cristo Range Traverse

01:11:15 - What was the technicality like on this traverse?

01:13:44 - How should someone get familiar with class 5 pitches with a heavy pack?

01:17:30 - Have you noticed any drop in fitness as you’ve aged?

01:19:36 - Nolan’s 14 description

01:21:35 - Discussion about sleep apnea and asthma

01:24:00 - Tell us about the Slowlans Traverse

01:27:40 - What is it about the ridge hikes that keep you coming back?

01:29:00 - Discussion about popularity trends

01:30:15 - Tell us about the Mosquito/Ten Mile Range Traverse

01:35:00 - Could someone who doesn’t like exposure find an alternate route?

01:36:10 - Tell us about the Highest Hundred

01:39:44 - How did you logistically tackle this?

01:43:00 - Biking from Boulder to Longs Peak

01:47:45 - Do you feel pressure to keep coming up with new projects?

01:48:30 - Do you see your guides as an act of service?

01:52:00 - Discussion about the Colorado Trail FKT

01:56:00 - Do you have to train to sleep less for an FKT attempt?

01:59:45 - Do you ever plan trips based on the moon cycle?

02:00:20 - Kumo Question: What is the most useless skill you’ve ever learned?

Segments

Mail Bag

Trek Propaganda:
12 Epic Multi-Night Loop Hikes in the US by Kelly Floro Dead Weight: 13 Thru-Hikers Reveal the Gear They Sent Home by Ariella Nardizzi
QOTD: If you could telepathically say something to all 7.95 billion people on earth, what would you say?

Triple Crown of things in your bedside table

Mail Bag

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The Teton Crest Trail with Chaunce & Elise
5 ago· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, Chaunce and Elise give us a thorough rundown on their recent trek of the Teton Crest Trail. We learn all the requisite facts about this trail, including length, landscape highlights, permitting, travel, wildlife, the best campsites, water availability and more. We also get a play by play of some of the best stories from the duo's hike, including a misfortunate start to the journey, Elise's serendipitous reunion with a Wyoming dive bar, how Chaunce managed her extreme grizzly anxiety, running into a former guest of the podcast on trail, crowd surfing at a concert, and more.

We wrap the show with a triple crown of PCT sections you'd take someone you hate, how we'd blow a million dollars in 24 hours, and The 1800-Mile Australian Triple Crown.

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Interview with Chaunce & Elise!
Chaunce’s Instagram Elise’s Instagram
Time stamps & Questions

00:02:40 - Reminders: Mark your calendars for our NYC Meetup this September 16! And support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:06:30 - Introducing Chaunce & Elise

00:07:30 - What is the Teton Crest Trail?

00:10:00 - DIscussion about the trail termini

00:11:48 - What was the permit situation?

00:17:25 - What’s the best way to get to the trail?

00:19:30 - Discussion about the elevation

00:23:20 - Discussion about Gaia

00:32:20 - How did you prepare for wildlife prior to the trip?

00:41:00 - Discussion about bear signs on trail

00:43:30 - Discussion about wildlife sightings on trail

00:47:11 - What was the water situation like?

00:48:48 - What were the inclines, terrain, and landscapes like?

00:51:50 - Deciding which car to take

00:58:10 - The car problem

01:03:00 - Elise’s Rawlins vortex

01:12:00 - Resolution of the car issues

01:14:50 - Getting onto the trail

01:21:00 - Discussion about the camping zones and day 1 of hiking

01:23:57 - Chaunce forgot about bugs

01:27:00 - Day 2 of hiking

01:38:10 - Discussion about fear of snow and Paintbrush Divide

01:39:49 - Day 2 dinner and evening

01:46:20 - Moose sightings and signs

01:49:10 - Day 3 of hiking

01:52:30 - Hiking over Paintbrush Divide

02:04:20 - Day 3 evening

02:07:20 - Day 4 of hiking

02:08:50 - Chaunce & Elise’s concert

02:11:40 - Closing thoughts on the Teton Crest Trail

02:12:05 - Kumo Question: If you could have one superpower that’s not commonly mentioned, what would it be?

Segments

Trek Propaganda
Meet Your Next Big Thru-Hiking Challenge: The 1800-Mile Australian Triple Crown by J Taylor Bell New Study Helps Explain Why Your Hiking Clothes Smell So Bad by Kelly Floro
QOTD: How would you blow a million dollars in 24 hours?

Triple Crown of PCT sections you’d take someone you hate

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Stuart Howe on Backpacking with His Twin Daughters across Canadian National Parks
29 lug· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Stuart Howe. Stu is an avid backpacker of remote and rugged Canadian treks, the proprietor of a Youtube Channel dedicated to documenting the backpacking trips he’s done with his identical twin daughters, and the nicest guy you’ve ever met!

We learn all about how his entry into backpacking was spearheaded by his girls, the best trails he’s done across Canada and the US, how he likely encountered an aggressively grizzly bear that later tragically killed a couple and their dog, and his organization, which aims to expand safe access into the Canadian backcountry.

We wrap the show with news of a missing thru-hiker on the PCT, the best outdoor temperature, the triple crown of worst TV characters, and how Chaunce's random act of kindness is giving her internet street cred.

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Interview with Stuart Howe
Howe's the Hike Website Howe's the Hike Youtube The Canadian Backcountry Trails Preservation Society
Time stamps & Questions

00:02:20 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content! Keep an eye out for the Trek’s fall editorial internship and use code “gingerstuff” for 15% off the Trek’s new merch!

00:04:30 - Introducing Stuart

00:05:00 - What is the Royal Canadian Geographical Society College of Fellows?

00:07:25 - Tell us about your wedding planning business

00:12:28 - In what ways is planning a good wedding like planning a good backpacking trip?

00:13:11 - At what age did you start backpacking with your daughters?

00:16:42 - What’s your background in the outdoors?

00:17:42 - How did you figure out the girls’ gear on initial trips?

00:20:13 - Were there less glamorous portions of backpacking with teenagers?

00:22:34 - Do your daughters get along better compared to their peers?

00:23:34 - What family dynamics set them up for success before you started backpacking?

00:25:20 - Were you reluctant or excited to start a Youtube channel?

00:26:35 - How involved were the girls in the Youtube video production?

00:27:40 - How much work was it to keep them interested in backpacking?

00:29:09 - Did you intervene in disagreements?

00:30:05 - What was it like to teach two young girls to poop in the woods?

00:31:20 - What ‘oh shit’ moments did you encounter?

00:32:50 - Do you prepare more for trips with your kids than solo trips?

00:34:05 - Have you had any scary animal encounters?

00:39:00 - Discussion about bear spray

00:47:37 - The rest of Stu’s bear story

00:51:00 - Discussion about dogs and bears

00:55:40 - How do you handle food at camp when hiking through grizzly country?

00:57:20 - Are you more afraid to return to the area where you encountered the grizzly?

00:58:10 - The conclusion to the grizzly bear story

01:01:00 - Tell us about the Fundy Circuit

01:02:30 - How different are the Fundy Circuit and the Fundy Footpath?

01:03:30 - What is the Molar Loop like?

01:04:15 - How difficult is it to get permits for backpacking in Banff and Jasper?

01:06:40 - Is the backcountry less crowded than the frontcountry?

01:11:30 - How do you compare solo backpacking to trips with your kids?

01:13:45 - Did your wife miss going on the backpacking trips?

01:16:45 - Tell us about the South Boundary Trail in Jasper

01:18:40 - What trail would you recommend for someone with their kids in Banff or Jasper?

01:20:13 - How did you teach them about dangerous things without creating fear?

01:23:00 - What are the biggest differences in backpacking in the US versus Canada?

01:24:15 - What are the biggest resupply differences?

01:25:34 - Did you have your daughters navigate while hiking?

01:26:20 - Tell us about the Rocky Mountain Loadout

01:27:30 - What’s the Ancient Wall area like?

01:28:18 - Tell us about the West Coast trail

01:31:42 - Did you see any mountain lions?

01:32:41 - Why not the Sunshine Coast Trail?

01:34:00 - Tell us about the Canadian Backcountry Trails Preservation Society?

01:38:40 - How can people get involved if they’re interested?

01:39:58 - Kumo Question: What is the one celebrity you’d be most starstruck to meet?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: PCT Hiker Missing for Over 2 Months, Authorities Begin Search by Ariella Nardizzi

QOTD: What is the best outdoor temperature?

Triple Crown of the worst TV characters

Mail Bag

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Foot Strength, Injury Prevention, Footwear Recommendations, and Gait Mechanics with Dr. Courtney Conley
22 lug· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Dr. Courtney Conley. Dr. Conley is an internationally renowned foot and gait specialist, founder and creator of Gait Happens, and chiropractic physician who specializes in foot and gait mechanics. We chat all things related to foot health related to long-distance backpacking, including what to look for in footwear and what characteristics to avoid, how to best prepare your feet for a successful hike, and preventing and treating common foot injuries- including unconventional exercises to help you accomplish this. In a nutshell, Dr. Conley is a foot wizard and you will learn a great deal about setting your feet up for success on trail.

We wrap the show with backpacking items to ditch to lower your base weight, what vegetable we would be, the triple crown of things that are true, but we're not buying it, and a one-minute gear review of a trail runner that's been gaining a lot of traction in the world of thru-hiking.

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Interview with Dr. Courtney Conley

Gait Happens Website (Backpacker Radio listeners get 10% off consults, classes, and products)

Time stamps & Questions

00:04:20 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon, suggest a guest for PCT Days, and apply for the Trek’s full time position!

00:07:35 - Introducing Dr. Conley

00:08:40 - How did you decide to specialize in gait?

00:10:25 - How do you analyze people walking?

00:12:41 - What’s the easiest gait problem to spot in the wild?

00:13:30 - If you could change one thing about everyone to improve their feet, what would it be?

00:16:52 - Discussion about shoe cushioning

00:18:10 - Discussion about walking barefoot

00:20:00 - In what circumstances would you recommend more cushion?

00:21:40 - Discussion about wide toe boxes

00:22:33 - What other brands have shoes that include your recommendations?

00:23:43 - Discussion about heel-toe drop

00:25:00 - Should everyone be striving to use a zero drop shoe?

00:28:30 - Discussion about toe strength

00:29:30 - How should someone build foot strength in preparation for a thru-hike?

00:32:30 - Who are your primary patients?

00:33:55 - Are achilles tears becoming more common and how can they be prevented?

00:36:14 - Discussion about plyometrics

00:38:20 - Where does more traditional strength training fit into foot strength?

00:41:15 - What’s your view on toe socks?

00:42:30 - What can someone do with their kids to ensure they have strong feet?

00:46:03 - Would you ever recommend hiking boots?

00:50:38 - What are the most common issues you work with in backpackers?

00:53:29 - Can it be harmful to power through without an orthotic?

00:54:53 - What workouts should people do to prevent plantar fasciitis?

00:57:37 - Once you notice plantar fasciitis, what should you do?

01:00:00 - How can people help their feet recover?

01:06:10 - Discussion about healing from ankle sprains

01:06:45 - Discussion about stress fractures

01:08:51 - Can a weak foot lead to knee or hip injuries?

01:14:50 - Discussion about optimal shoes for running

01:17:20 - What do you wear for running?

01:17:50 - Do you have recommendations for long distance hiking shoes?

01:19:45 - Do you have recommendations for general foot ache?

01:23:34 - Any other product recommendations?

01:24:30 - Anything else we should have asked you?

01:29:91 - Is it bad if your foot is flat or you have a collapsed arch?

01:31:41 - What’s your recommended regimen for going from a 5 millimeter drop to a 0 drop?

01:33:00 - Do you work with patients remotely?

01:35:05 - Kumo Question: What is the cheesiest pickup line you’ve ever heard or used?

Segments

Trek Propaganda:
Driftless Hiking Trail: New Funding Package Is Big Win for Minnesota Long Trail by Kelly Floro Peg Leg: 7 Gear Items I Ditched To Cut My Base Weight in Half by Peg Leg
QOTD: If you were a vegetable, what vegetable would you be?

Triple Crown of things that are true, but I’m not buying it

One-Minute Gear Review

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Mary "Badass" Anderson an AT Winter SOBO in the 80s and Hiking the National Scenic Trails as an Older Solo Female
15 lug· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Helinox, we are joined by Mary "Badass" Anderson. Never has a trail name been more fitting, Mary is the most badass hiker you've likely never heard of. With nearly 19,000 miles under her feet spanning six decades, with her first thru-hike taking place in 1981, Mary has not slowed down with her adventurous ways, as she swung by the studio on her to the Pacific Northwest Trail. Some of the highlights from today's interview include a wild winter SOBO thru-hike of the AT in 1985, just a handful of months after a major back surgery where her doctor told her to give up hiking. She followed her AT SOBO winter hike by immediately hopping over to the PCT, where she battled even more snow, and killed and ate a rattlesnake. Other feats include hiking all of the 4,000 footers in New England with her young son in the 90s, completing the CDT after hitting a new low in 2020, and now she's on a quest to finish all of the National Scenic Trails, with only a couple remaining. In short, Mary's story is one of a kind, you will enjoy today's chat.

We wrap the show with a last call for applications for The Trek's new full-time role, a pair of beloved trail angels close their doors after 17 years serving PCT hikers, what music we would listen to on the way to rescue our significant others from a hostage situation, the triple crown of onomatopoeias, and Chaunce is very afraid of grizzlies.

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Interview with Mary “Badass” Anderson
Mary's Blog
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:40 - Reminders: Apply for the Trek’s full-time role! Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and send us your recommendations for a hiker meetup this fall in NYC.

00:10:34 - Introducing Mary

00:11:40 - How’d you get your trail name?

00:13:14 - How did you initially get started long distance backpacking?

00:15:22 - How did you prepare for backpacking in the 80s?

00:21:05 - What does your baseweight look like today?

00:23:47 - What was the AT like in the 80s?

00:26:56 - Did the AT feel easy compared to the Long Trail?

00:29:02 - What resources did you have for navigation?

00:32:38 - What were your resupplies like?

00:34:00 - Tell us about your back injury and being told never to hike again

00:38:10 - Where does your toughness come from?

00:39:00 - How much of a physical struggle was the AT southbound in winter?

00:40:46 - Where did you experience the worst weather?

00:41:50 - Did you think it might have been a bad idea?

00:45:30 - What did your winter pack and gear look like?

00:49:39 - How did you keep on the trail?

00:50:45 - What about backpacking do you enjoy?

00:52:20 - Did people know what you were doing?

00:54:08 - How did you afford hiking then and now?

00:56:12 - What trail recipes do you make?

00:57:18 - What did it feel like to get to Springer and then start the PCT?

01:02:09 - What was your experience on the PCT like?

01:04:23 - Tell us about your rattlesnake encounter

01:07:00 - Discussion about fear and wildlife encounters

01:10:30 - Did you encounter other thru-hikers on the PCT in 1986?

01:11:10 - How did you enjoy the PCT relative to the AT?

01:14:00 - What was the scariest moment of your backpacking career?

01:17:05 - Tell us about the hiking you did with your son

01:19:55 - Do you have advice for getting your kids outside?

01:21:15 - What was it like hiking the Long Trail with your 8 year old?

01:22:30 - How have you noticed the concept of gender changing in the backcountry?

01:24:08 - Tell us about a bear paying for your cross country road trip

01:26:36 - How did you get back into long distance thru-hiking?

01:29:22 - When did you switch from map and compass to apps?

01:31:32 - Do you long for hikes from decades ago?

01:35:55 - How was the southern half of the CDT in 2020?

01:37:42 - How was your mental state?

01:42:10 - Tell us about staying with people on the Ice Age Trail

01:44:28 - Tell us about the northern half of the CDT

01:49:55 - Tell us about your Vermont bike trip

01:54:16 - Discussion about the role of the internet

01:55:40 - Discussion about the Catamount Cross Country Ski Trail

01:58:50 - How was the Connecticut River Source to Sea Paddle?

02:06:05 - Tell us about the New England Trail

02:10:08 - Discussion about the Natchez Trace Trail

02:12:00 - Discussion about the Potomoc Heritage Trail

02:17:40 - Anything else to share about the Arizona Trail?

02:24:00 - What’s next?

Segments

Trek Propaganda:
17 Years, 8,000 Hikers: Trail Angels Scout and Frodo Retire from PCT Hosting by Arielle Nardizzi Professor: The Strategy That’s Helped Me Afford 6 Years, 15K Miles of Thru-Hiking (Jobs, Budgeting Tips, and More) by Carl Stanfield
QOTD: Your wife has been kidnapped and is being held in a location 30 minutes away. You’re driving to rescue her. It’s a warm night and your windows are down. Do you listen to music on the drive there, yes or no?

Triple Crown of onomatopoeias

Power Ranking: Animals You Want to Encounter on Trail

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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Adam Cramer, CEO of Outdoor Alliance, on the EXPLORE Act and Conservation Advocacy
8 lug· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Helinox, we are joined by Adam Cramer, the founding Executive Director and CEO of Outdoor Alliance, a national coalition of outdoor recreation advocacy groups revitalizing the conservation movement with modern organizing and digital engagement. We learn all about this organization, the work they've done, the conservation movement at large, some interesting data from their recent wildfire report, and much more.

We wrap the show with news of a new feature from iOS 18 which could be a gamechanger for backpackers, the proper ratio of water to corpses, and the triple Crown of AT trail sections you’d take someone you hate.

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Interview with Adam Cramer
Take action for the EXPLORE Act Sign up for action alerts Outdoor Alliance Action Center Wildfire and Outdoor Recreation in the West
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:00 - Reminders: Apply for the Trek’s new full time position! Suggest a guest for us to interview at PCT Days and support us on Patreon.

00:07:35 - Introducing Adam

00:08:13 - What makes for a good skatepark?

00:09:20 - Tell us about whitewater rafting

00:12:44 - What is Outdoor Alliance and how is it funded?

00:14:00 - How do you pick where the primary attention goes?

00:15:22 - How did you get involved with Outdoor Alliance?

00:20:04 - What are the specific objectives of Outdoor Alliance for this year?

00:22:07 - What does the EXPLORE act include?

00:24:10 - How did the EXPLORE act get passed in the House and what’s the process for the Senate?

00:28:39 - Tell us about the funding

00:31:04 - Do you collaborate with any hunting and fishing organizations?

00:33:06 - Does any of the funding go towards trail maintenance?

00:35:35 - Does it get exhausting to argue the same thing year after year?

00:37:32 - What were some of the findings from the Outdoor Alliance wildfire report?

00:41:50 - Would some regions implement this before others?

00:47:07 - Are you looking to expand how many organizations you work with?

00:47:45 - Kumo Question: What’s the most beautiful place you’ve ever been to?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: No Signal, No Problem: Apple Introduces 2-Way Satellite Messaging for iPhones by James Townsend

Accidental Oopsies

QOTD: People will swim in the ocean, even though there are definitely many corpses in it. People will not swim in a pool with a corpse in it. Humans all have a corpse:water ratio that is acceptable for them to swim in. What is your ratio?

Triple Crown of AT trail sections you’d take someone you hate

Priest Confession (and leave us your own!)

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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John Mackey, Whole Foods Co-Founder, on His Thru-Hiking Experience, Co-Owning Gossamer Gear, and Entrepreneurship
1 lug· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by Helinox we are joined by John Mackey. On trail he's known as "Strider", off trail he's known as the co-founder and former CEO of Whole Foods. In addition to being a world-class entrepreneur, Mackey is also a backpacking enthusiast, having hike the AT, PCT, Colorado Trail, and many trails abroad including hikes in the Alps, Patagonia, and more. This is a fun, informative, and wide ranging chat that covers his thru-hike on the AT while being the active Whole Foods CEO, how he saved Gossamer Gear from near extinction, his fascination with UL gear, including his own 6.5 lb base weight, how his love for fantasy novels spilled into his own creative endeavor at the AT's shelter logs, his favorite vegan trail snacks, and much more. We also dive into some non-backpacking talk, including how to build a successful and healthy company culture, his take on labor unions, how psychedelics played a pivotal role in his life, and we learn all about his new book, The Whole Story: Adventures in Love, Life, and Capitalism. Chaunce and I were amped for this chat and it did not disappoint.

We wrap the show with a sneak peak at a new full-time job opening at The Trek, what fact is common knowledge in our field, but unknown to most of the population, the triple crown of Whole Foods foods, and Chaunce's encounter with a ghost.

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Interview with John “Strider” Mackey
John’s Website John's Instagram Love Life Website
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:56 - Reminders: Apply for the Trek’s new full time role! Suggest a guest for PCT Days and support us on Patreon for bonus exclusive content!

00:08:15 - Introducing John

00:09:18 - Tell us about investigating your wife’s fridge during your first date

00:12:27 - We Love Love: Tell us about telling her how you felt

00:18:12 - Did that make you more sensitive to how you interact with people?

00:19:15 - What was the origin story of buying Gossamer Gear?

00:23:46 - Are you still involved in the operations of Gossamer Gear?

00:25:15 - How did you get to a baseweight of 6 pounds?

00:26:50 - What are your Big Three?

00:28:00 - How did Ray Jardine’s book insprie you?

00:30:30 - Tell us about getting off trail

00:33:22 - What’s it like to complete the AT and go back to being the CEO of Whole Foods?

00:36:01 - Tell us about your trail register stories

00:39:35 - What was the process for your support vehicle?

00:41:44 - Did other hikers realize you were involved with Whole Foods?

00:43:10 - What impact has psychadelics had on your career?

00:49:33 - What did your parents think when you started Safer Way?

00:54:56 - Was it hard to ask your father to leave the board of Whole Foods?

00:58:50 - What was the community’s reaction to you starting Safer Way?

01:02:18 - How did you mentally keep up with the growth of Whole Foods?

01:03:43 - Were there any books you recommend to entrepreneurs?

01:05:28 - Discussion about listening to books while long distance hiking

01:07:00 - Discussion about what John eats while backpacking

01:10:21 - What kind of cravings do you get while hiking?

01:12:20 - What do you think about alternative meat burgers?

01:13:23 - Can you explain why vegans are against eggs?

01:16:20 - Tell us about hiking with the founder of Celestial Seasonings tea

01:18:58 - What was the origin story of your step-daughter’s trail name?

01:20:09 - What sticky situations have you gotten into on trail?

01:24:00 - Tell us about hiking the PCT

01:27:39 - Tell us about the Via Francigena and Alpe Adria

01:29:50 - What has been your favorite European trail?

01:31:35 - What’s your take on REI’s recent efforts on union busting?

01:36:52 - What tips do you have for building a strong company culture?

01:42:00 - Discussion about merging with Amazon

01:43:18 - What is Jeff Bezos like?

01:43:41 - Zach’s idea for grocery store improvement

01:45:33 - Kumo Question: What is the cheesiest movie you secretly love?

01:48:26 - Tell us about Love Life

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Kristian Morgan Aims for Another Appalachian Trail FKT by Ariella Nardizzi

QOTD: What fact is common knowledge in your field, but unknown to most of the population?

Spooky Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of Whole Foods foods

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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Skin Protection on Trail: Sunscreen, Clothing, and Supplements with Dr. Katie Manno
24 giu· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by dermatologist, and my old pal, Dr. Katie Manno. This is a chat I’ve been wanting to highlight on this podcast for years now, and it lived up to my lofty expectations. Dr. Manno gives us a thorough runthrough on all things skin health related and how it pertains to extended time in the outdoors, including why sun protection is so important, the difference between chemical and mineral sunscreens and which is better for the trail, how much and what SPF sunscreen hikers should use, the safety profile of chemical sunscreens and what chemicals specifically to avoid, sun protective clothing and the science behind UPF ratings, vitamin D considerations when using sunscreen and/or sun clothing, what supplements and skin care products she recommends to optimize skin health, and much more. Needless to say, you will come away from this chat smarter than you entered it.

We wrap the show with why one former guest always uses a bear canister when thru-hiking, we opine on whether donating hair can land you in the slammer, I give an update on my 175-mile lap around Denver, and the triple crown of dog breeds.

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Interview with Katie Manno
Katie's Practice
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:40 - Reminders: The Trek is hiring a full-time marketing position! Get notified by subscribing to the newsletter. We’re going to Austin and support us on Patreon!

00:08:55 - Introducing Katie

00:09:50 - When did you know you wanted to be a doctor and dermatologist?

00:12:30 - Do you analyze people’s skin when you’re talking to them in the real world?

00:13:40 - What are the risks and consequences of not taking sun protection seriously?

00:15:15 - How does your skin color impact how careful you need to be with sun exposure?

00:17:32 - Can you totally eliminate your risk of skin cancer?

00:18:20 - Is avoiding a sunburn enough?

00:20:10 - What’s the perception of spray tans from the dermatology perspective?

00:21:01 - Is there any reason to be skeptical about the chemicals in sunscreen?

00:25:18 - Do you avoid any chemical sunscreens?

00:26:58 - Discussion about Elta MD and chemical vs. physical sunscreens

00:30:18 - What sunscreen would you recommend to backpackers?

00:32:23 - Is it true that above an SPF it’s all the same?

00:35:35 - Do you have a preference between sun protective clothing and sunscreen?

00:37:16 - Does body hair protect against sun damage?

00:38:42 - Is something being covered by clothing enough protection?

00:40:30 - Discussion about SPF and UPF ratings

00:42:30 - What are the main factors that determine the UPF rating?

00:44:14 - If someone applies sunscreen perfectly, do they need protective clothing?

00:45:10 - What would you send out a new PCT hiker out with?

00:46:34 - Walk us through what the various types of skin cancer

00:51:12 - Does sunscreen block vitamin D absorption?

00:53:19 - Is there a safe way to get vitamin D through sun exposure without sunscreen?

00:55:12 - What is the UV index?

00:57:27 - What is the correlation between vitamin levels and skin cancers?

01:01:38 - Are there other supplements we should be taking?

01:04:15 - What are the options for people who’ve had a lot of past skin damage?

01:10:44 - Do you have any favorite skin products?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Why I Always Carry a Bear Canister When Thru-Hiking by Moose Juice

QOTD: Can donated hair be used as DNA evidence in a crime?

Denver Orbital Trail Update

Triple Crown of dog breeds

One Star Trail Reviews

One Minute Gear Review

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns.

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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Katie "Oats" Houston on the Appalachian High Route, Lone Star Trail, and Breaking Out in the Outdoor Industry
17 giu· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Sawyer Products, we are joined by Katie “Oats” Houston. Oats is a solo thru-hiker, who’s completed the AT, Colorado Trail, Lone Star Trail, and most importantly for today’s recording, the 330-mile Appalachian High Route. We dive deep into the Appalachian High Route’s details, including the standout sections, resupply strategy, the best months to hike it, standout stops in Asheville (where Katie is from), and much more. Katie also shares some tips for breaking out as a freelancer in the outdoor industry, which is especially relevant, as she is also a contributor for The Trek and formerly the head of our social media.

We wrap the show by teasing our next live podcast- hint, it’s not in Denver, Badger has a hilarious and misfortunate wild animal encounter at my house, the triple crown of conversations you don’t get to on trail, and a listener voicemail / tick PSA.

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Interview with Katie “Oats” Houston
Katie's Instagram Katie's Trek Profile Katie's Website
Time stamps & Questions

00:03:57 - Reminders: We’re coming to Austin, TX! Support us on Patreon and check out our Backpacker Radio hats in the Trek’s store!

00:08:30 - Introducing Oats

00:09:05 - How did you get into the outdoors and the Trek?

00:10:04 - How did you get your trail name?

00:13:22 - Why did you decide to hike the AT?

00:16:32 - Were you the first person to do the Appalachian High Route?

00:19:06 - Can you give us an overview of the Appalachian High Route?

00:25:22 - What’s the route like elevation-wise?

00:28:20 - What are the towns and resupplies like?

00:30:50 - What do you know about the geology of the southern Appalachians?

00:36:01 - What are the highlights of Asheville?

00:40:00 - Could a first time hiker do the Appalachian High Route?

00:41:45 - What did you use for navigation?

00:43:50 - How did you pick to go clockwise?

00:45:46 - Tell us about the hiking you did in Texas

00:46:51 - Do you have tips about thinking through things while thru-hiking?

00:50:00 - Give us your rating and elevator pitch for the Lone Star Trail

00:55:26 - Discussion about the aggressive dogs on the Lone Star Trail

00:57:00 - Discussion about Big Bend National Park

00:59:05 - What are your tips for breaking into the outdoor industry?

01:04:28 - What are different ways to find outdoor industry jobs?

01:06:40 - Walk us through a typical week at Sawyer

01:08:08 - What are your tips for pricing your skills?

01:13:00 - How much freelance work do you do now?

01:14:55 - Give us Sawyer’s background

01:20:57 - Where can people keep up with you?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Why I Always Carry a Bear Canister When Thru-Hiking by Moose Juice

QOTD: How long would you watch a loading screen before aborting all the info you entered/work you did/progress you made to start over?

Scary Thing of the Week

Pooping in the Woods Update

Triple Crown of conversations you don’t get into on trail

Listener Voicemail

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns.

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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Taylor the Nahamsha Hiker on Hiking the AT Twice, Youtube Fame, and Running a Gift Shop
10 giu· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Sawyer Products, we are joined by Taylor the Nahamsha Hiker. Taylor is a thru-hiker, peak bagger, prominent YouTuber, and as of the recording of this episode, exceptionally pregnant. In addition to hiking the AT in 2021 and 2023, Taylor has also hiked all 48 of New Hampshire’s 4,000 footers. We learn all about her entry into the world of thru-hiking, how she grew her YouTube following- including a friendly sibling rivalry, what the life of running a gift store is like, and her AT-themed Monopoly board game.

We wrap the show with a recap of the remainder of this years AT Trail Days, including consuming butter and dead bodies (fortunately, not related), what Backpacker Radio fans shall henceforth call themselves, the triple crown of things we wish we could buy stock in, and preview a 175-mile hike that Badger is doing around Denver.

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Interview with Taylor the Nahamsha Hiker
Taylor's Website Taylor's Instagram Taylor's Youtube Nahamsha Gifts
Time stamps & Questions

00:03:28 - Reminders: Suggest a guest for PCT Days and support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:06:07 - Trail Days Recap

00:32:15 - Introducing Taylor

00:34:49 - Tell us about moving to New Hampshire

00:37:17 - Tell us about your first hikes in the Whites and how those prepared you for the AT

00:39:15 - What was it like getting off the AT in 2020?

00:42:50 - How does one get into the gift shop business and what is it like?

00:48:01 - Did you start Youtubing during your first AT attempt?

00:50:22 - Tell us about getting back on the AT in 2021

00:52:25 - Tell us about getting off trail to drive a marathon

00:56:00 - Do you prefer hiking solo over hiking with a tramily?

00:58:30 - When did you start getting judgmental comments on your channel?

01:00:27 - In what instance do the comments go too far?

01:02:50 - How do you maintain your motivation while making videos?

01:06:15 - Did you have media training prior to starting Youtube?

01:08:02 - How has your tech changed over the years?

01:09:21 - What standout stories do you have from your 2021 hike?

01:10:30 - Have you always been athletic?

01:12:30 - Tell us about the Belknap Range Redline

01:16:00 - Discussion about Taylor’s wedding and honeymoon

01:17:24 - How did you decide to hike the AT a second time?

01:19:35 - What places did you intentionally return to on your second thru-hike?

01:20:55 - Tell us about the end of your second AT trip

01:26:57 - Did you enjoy the second hike as much as the first?

01:30:30 - Did you feel compelled to stay on trail because of your audience?

01:31:40 - Discussion about Taylor’s trail videos and advice for others
01:33:50 - How do you make sure to record the highs and lows of the hike?

01:36:25 - Do you have any good poop stories?

01:41:48 - Tell us about the Lakes Region Explorer Patch Program

01:42:25 - Tell us about camping while 8 months pregnant

01:44:50 - What videos do you have left to make before giving birth?

01:46:08 - What is the vent diagram between thru-hiker and pregnancy cravings?

01:47:50 - Where can people follow you?

01:48:36 - Sawyer Question: if you were given an unlimited budget to throw a party for any historical figure, who would it be and what would the theme be?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Every Pizza on the Colorado Trail, Ranked by JT Simmons

QOTD: Beyonce has the beehive, Taylor Swift has the swifties, Lady Gaga has the little monsters…what would Backpacker Radio listeners be?

Triple Crown of things you wish you could buy stock in

New Thing of the Week

Priest Confessions

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns.

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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Brandon "Horsepower" Weis on the Calendar Year Triple Crown and Arizona Trail
3 giu· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek brought to you by Sawyer Products, we are joined by Brandon “Horsepower” Weis. With minimal prior backpacking experience, in 2021, Brandon successfully completed the calendar year triple crown plus a thru-hike of the Arizona Trail. The next two years were not any more laid back, as he accrued more than 15,000 miles worth of backpacking over a three year span, including treks of the Benton MacKay Trail, Pinhoti, Oregon Desert Trail, Bigfoot Trail, Pacific Northwest Trail, Colorado Trail, Hayduke, and the Sheltowee Trace Trail. In addition to giving us an overview of these treks, Horsepower delights us with fun stories, including a terrifying encounter with a grizzly, sleeping in countless pit toilets, being asked to leave a restaurant due to his odor, accidentally drinking deet, and more.

We wrap the show with an overview of the first half of trail days, including how Badger is the world’s biggest moron, the triple crown of our short section hike on the AT, and how many drinks constitute drinking.

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Interview with Brandon “Horsepower” Weis
Brandon's Instagram Brandon's Book
Time stamps & Questions

00:07:30 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content and suggest a guest for us to interview at PCT Days!

00:08:54 - Introducing Horsepower

00:09:40 - What’s your trail name origin story?

00:11:11 - What was your background in weight lifting prior to backpacking?

00:12:45 - Where did your interest in thru-hiking come from?

00:14:37 - How long were your section hikes prior to the CYTC?

00:14:55 - Tell us about being a big Lil Wayne fan

00:16:34 - Tell us about being a partier

00:18:26 - Tell us about deciding to hike the Calendar Year Triple Crown

00:20:29 - In what other ways have you gone all in on something you’re interested in?

00:22:21 - Tell us about starting the Calendar Year Triple Crown

00:24:30 - How much did your pack weigh when you started?

00:26:35 - Did you keep to a regular hiking schedule?

00:28:11 - At any point did you think it might not have been a good idea?

00:30:27 - Did you factor in zero days or town vortexes?

00:36:00 - What were your lowest points on the AT?

00:40:42 - What was your low point on the first CDT section?

00:43:47 - What drew you to The One tent?

00:44:28 - Discussion about switching over to the PCT

00:46:30 - Were you too tired to talk to other hikers?

00:47:08 - What were the high and low points on the PCT?

00:48:54 - How did you mitigate injuries?

00:50:52 - Tell us about your back injury

00:55:00 - Are you glad you have already done the Calendar Year Triple Crown?

00:56:02 - McDonalds bathroom story

00:57:44 - Too smelly to be in a restaurant story

00:58:36 - Was the AZT always the plan?

01:00:12 - Discussion about getting off the Buckeye Trail

01:01:00 - Burnt shoes story

01:03:10 - Pit toilet connoisseur

01:05:48 - Savage mice and rats

01:07:30 - Kind of maybe saved a guy’s life

01:09:10 - Held at nonthreatening knifepoint in a car

01:10:22 - Accidentally drinking DEET

01:10:53 - Accidentally holding a lovely couple hostage

01:12:26 - Hearing the song Roxanne 200 times in a night

01:15:30 - Tell us about going back to smaller trails after the CYTC

01:19:09 - Tell us about the Oregon Desert Trail

01:24:30 - Tell us about the Bigfoot Trail

01:30:48 - What’s your rationale for doing so many miles?

01:31:56 - Are you frugal when out on trail?

01:33:44 - What was your biggest pigout moment?

01:35:05 - What’s your favorite meal on trail?

01:36:37 - Eating so much peanut butter he became allergic

01:39:10 - Did you supplement at all on trail?

01:39:35 - Tell us about the Pacific Northwest Trail

01:48:15 - Plug your book!

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Authorities Investigating Fish Hooks Stuffed In Dog Treats Along Appalachian Trail by Ariella Nardizzi

QOTD: How many drinks constitutes “drinking”?

Triple Crown of moments from AT hiking

One Minute Gear Reviews

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Quoc "Double Magic" Nguyen on the Alaska Traverse, Norge pa Langs, and Brooks Traverse
27 mag· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Quoc “Double Magic” Nguyen. Double Magic might just be the most accomplished backpacker you’ve never heard of, along with being in the running for most interesting person on earth. His 23,000 miles of backpacking started with trails you know, like the Colorado Trail and the Pacific Northwest Trail, and quickly evolved to trails you likely haven’t including Norge pa Langs, Via Dinarica, the Colorado Loop (a 1500 mile route he made up), a pair of epic excursions in Alaska, and trekking around the Aleutian Islands, a thing people don’t do. This one is a like a snowball rolling downhill, it gets more momentum and becomes more dangerous the further it goes.

We wrap the show with some news of grizzlies getting reintroduced to the Cascades, the triple crown of cheeses, and a listener pumps our tires on our behalf.

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Interview with Quoc “Double Magic” Nguyen
Quoc's Instagram Quoc's Website
Time stamps & Questions

00:03:50 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon to get exclusive bonus content and don’t miss important updates by subscribing to the Trek’s newsletter or submitting your email on our website!

00:05:45 - Introducing Quoc

00:07:28 - How did you get into the outdoors?

00:09:34 - How did you transition from peakbagging to thru-hiking?

00:12:04 - What stood out to you from your first thru-hike?

00:13:14 - Were you stressed about money after graduating law school?

00:16:28 - How do you deal with shifting priorities?

00:18:25 - What is your trail name origin story?

00:19:41 - Why the Te Araroa as a second hike?

00:22:45 - Discussion about the TA

00:24:16 - How did you learn about the international hikes you’ve done?

00:26:14 - What did you learn about thru-hiking during your first two hikes?

00:27:29 - What was the first route you created?

00:28:42 - Tell us about the Iceland Traverse

00:35:45 - Do you not feel fear?

00:38:30 - Did you ever think you were gunna die?

00:42:00 - Tell us about the Norway end to end hike

00:45:26 - Was this a stressful trek?

00:46:30 - What were the terrain and resupplies like?

00:48:11 - Discussion about the ULA circuit

00:49:00 - Do you have tips for hiking efficiently?

00:50:38 - Tell us about your nutrition while hiking

00:55:00 - Would you recommend the Norway hike to others?

00:57:29 - How tired are you after the Norway hike?

01:00:00 - How do you make your trips work financially?

01:05:30 - Does it bother you when people don’t return their carts?

01:07:30 - Tell us about your current job in homeland security

01:09:32 - What are the worst things that have happened to you on trail?

01:15:15 - Why don’t you use a satellite communication device or bear spray?

01:17:00 - Story about being charged by bears

01:21:48 - Have your feelings about grizzly bears changed?

01:24:52 - What are you afraid of?

01:27:00 - What is your gym routine like?

01:31:00 - Tell us about the Brooks Range Traverse

01:35:55 - Do you ever get frustrated or lose your temper?

01:36:50 - What are the mileages of these two traverses?

01:39:25 - Tell us about the Alaska Traverse

01:46:00 - What are your big three?

01:47:20 - What do you use for footwear?

01:48:50 - Do you carry a bear canister?

01:51:00 - Tell us about the Cordillera Blanca Traverse & Huayhuash Circuit

01:54:41 - Tell us about the 1,500 mile Colorado Loop

01:58:40 - What are your favorite 13ers?

02:01:22 - Kumo Question: What is the most ridiculous fashion trend you’ve participated in?

Segments

Chaunce’s Wedding Update

Trek Propaganda: Grizzlies To Be Reintroduced in North Cascades: What It Means for the PCT by Kelly Floro

QOTD: Would you rather be a cowboy, a samurai, or a pirate?

Triple Crown of cheeses

Listener Voicemail

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Hailey Buckingham, Jason “Snail” Snailer barely know her, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns.

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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Q&A with Hiking Viking: Underrated Gear, Favorite Hikes, & Go-To Backpacking Foods
20 mag· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio, we’ve got another banger Q&A episode for you. We are joined by everyone’s favorite viking who hikes to cover your burning questions. Subjects in today’s episode include our most underrated pieces of gear, what single food item we've used on the most hikes, our go-to sun protection strategies, how careful someone should be during a norovirus outbreak, what single thing we like most about long-distance backpacking, and more. We wrap the show with what our level of surprise would be to see a dragon, the triple crown of seemingly simple things that don't make sense (this of course goes off the rails), and we give a listener dream tapeworms.

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Q&A with Jabba
Viking's Instagram
Time stamps & Questions

00:03:22 - Reminders: Keep up with content from the Trek via the newsletter, check out our brand new hats (and use code “gingerstuff” for 15% in the Trek store), and recommend someone we should interview at PCT Trail Days!

00:06:34 - Introducing Jabba

00:08:52 - What’s your sun protection strategy in highly exposed environments?

00:31:12 - What’s the most underrated piece of gear in your pack?

00:40:19 - Patent Pending: Titanium Water Bottle

00:47:45 - What is the single food item that’s been in your food bag the most?

01:06:50 - How can you handle norovirus outbreaks?

01:15:10 - The Veteran-Vargo-Viking Story

01:23:50 - How many times do you poo a day hiking/biking…also who’s cooler, Zach or Chaunce?

01:26:47 - How do you maintain muscle mass on the trail, especially after so many hikes?

01:30:11 - What was your first tattoo?

01:33:55 - What’s your favorite hiking trail you’ve ever done?

01:39:05 - How do you pack a frameless pack?

01:43:57 - If you had to pick one thing you like most about thru-hiking, what would it be?

Segments

Trek Propaganda
List of US Long Trails 5 Budget-Friendly Ultralight Backpacking Hacks by Moose Juice
Kumo Question: What is the weirdest thing you’ve ever eaten and would you recommend it?

QOTD: How surprised would you be to see a dragon flying in the sky?

Triple Crown of seemingly simple things that don’t make sense

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Hailey Buckingham, Jason “The Snail” Snailer barely know her, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns.

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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Backpacker Radio LIVE with Ryan "Dirtmonger" Sylva
13 mag· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we'll do it live! That's right, we are once again joined by backpacking legend, Ryan Sylva aka Dirtmonger, to learn more about his ridiculously extensive backpacking experience from around the world, but this time we are joined by 60 of our best friends at the Skylark Lounge in Denver, Colorado. Although many beers were consumed during the making of this podcast, we feel confident this live episode stays in bounds, at least relative to the first go around, which we no longer speak of.

We wrap the show with a QA from attendees of this event, a triple crown of the best sports movies, Chaunce gives us the full rundown on her engagement, and we finally introduce our highly anticipated new segment, Trail Confessionals.

Banner photo credit: Rolf Asphaug

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Live Podcast
Dirtmonger's Instagram Dirtmonger's Blog
Time stamps & Questions

00:05:17 - Reminders: Submit feedback to [email protected], sign up for the Trek’s newsletter, and reach out to us if you know a venue that would like to host us!

00:06:27 - Introducing Dirtmonger

00:13:20 - Tell us about your Poop Loop Bikepacking route

00:15:36 - Was this the start of a new chapter in your life?

00:19:20 - Does bikepacking scratch the same backcountry itch as backpacking?

00:22:58 - How do you develop and feel confident in your philosophy about backpacking?

00:26:54 - Tell us about your backstory

00:31:12 - Have you ever done something you wouldn’t want to do again?

00:34:15 - Sell us on bikepacking

00:37:28 - Discussion about using other activities to heal while still adventuring

00:44:15 - What’s the longest day you’ve had on a bike?

00:46:30 - Tell us about the Salkantay Trek, Ausungate Circuit, and Cordillera Real Traverse

00:50:59 - Do you learn things when you hike with Swami?

00:54:02 - What do you mean by hiking at your level?

00:59:56 - Discussion about hiking alone versus with people

01:01:52 - How did that inform the hiking decisions you made afterwards?

01:02:35 - What appeals to you about the desert?

01:04:40 - Tell us about the Oregon Desert Trail

01:06:50 - Tell us about the Altiplano Traverse

01:11:35 - Are there outdoor conditions that you don’t enjoy?

01:14:23 - Has there been a scenario where you turned back because the conditions were bad?

01:17:20 - What’s your mentality about proving yourself to other people?

01:23:50 - Tell us about the Whatever Route

01:28:25 - Discussion about planning and developing the Great Basin Route

01:37:20 - What’s your most controversial take on thru-hiking culture?

01:40:05 - What’s your median base weight?

01:45:30 - Discussion about down jackets and rain jackets

01:48:00 - Kumo Question: Do you think visors will ever come back around?

01:49:06 - Audience Q&A: Is there anything you want to hike in Asia?

01:50:00 - Audience Q&A: Bidet?

01:51:00 - Gossamer Gear Giveaway 1

01:55:30 - Audience Q&A: If you had to do one trail for the rest of your life, what would it be?

01:56:40 - Audience Q&A: Do you ever mentally struggle without seeing people around?

02:00:10 - Audience Q&A: How do you mentally balance creating a new trail with LNT?

02:03:08 - Audience Q&A: What trail made you fall in love with thru-hiking?

Segments

Chaunce’s Engagement Story

QOTD: How much money would it take for you to live in a dumpster for a month?

Triple Crown of sports movies

Trail Confessions

Two Star Trail Review

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Hailey Buckingham, Jason “Snail” Snailer barely know her, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns.

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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Audrey "Glowstick" Payne on the Patagonia O Circuit, Tramily Breakups, and Balancing a Career with Hiking
6 mag· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by thru-hiker and author, Audrey “Glowstick” Payne. In addition to a thru-hike of the Appalachian Trail, which is the subject of her memoir, Where the Rhododendrons Bloom, Audrey has also tackled the Colorado Trail, Foothills Trail, Trans Catalina Trail, John Muir Trail, Wonderland Trail, and the Patagonia O Circuit. Audrey gives us an overview of each of these treks, and how she might be the first person on earth to not enjoy the JMT, she details a not-so-cordial breakup with her trail family on the AT, and offers some solid tips for those who want to trek Patagonia’s O Circuit. We also get an overview of Audrey’s life prior to thru-hiking, including how her treks were inspired by a back injury and her career in PR, including some fun stories of working with celebrities.

We wrap the show with the news of a nasty outbreak of Norovirus on the AT this year, whether you should store your food underwater in the backcountry, the triple crown of movies we've cried to, and some one-star trail reviews.

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Interview with Audrey “Glowstick” Payne
Audrey's Instagram Audrey's Website Audrey's Linktree
Time stamps & Questions

00:05:14 - Reminders: Come say hi to us at both AT and PCT Trail Days, support us on Patreon to get bonus exclusive episodes, and check out our new hats!

00:06:47 - Introducing Audrey

00:09:20 - What were you doing in DC?

00:15:53 - How did you go from burnt out PR person to thru-hiking?

00:18:34 - How has your back held up?

00:20:15 - How old were you when you started on the AT?

00:22:45 - Walk us through how you rationalized leaving your career to hike the AT

00:26:57 - Are you grateful for your back issues getting you onto the trail?

00:29:28 - Did you have any midlife crises turning 40?

00:30:40 - How do you feel about your future hikes?

00:31:45 - What advice would you give to others approaching or in their 30s?

00:36:22 - Tell us about getting woken up by some ponies and bears

00:44:00 - Is there a story that resonates with readers from the book?

00:47:00 - Tell us about camping at the drive in

00:53:43 - Tell us about foraging on the AT

00:58:40 - What was your best trail magic experience?

01:03:14 - What are your thoughts about tramilies?

01:07:10 - How did the trail family breakup go?

01:09:54 - Can you give tips to people from a PR perspective on how to break up with your trail family?

01:15:52 - What happens if you encounter your broken up trail family again?

01:16:48 - What was it like post-breakup?

01:18:35 - Discussion about deciding to leave a job to hike the AT

01:20:18 - How can someone weigh the pros and cons of making a change to their life?

01:25:00 - Did you put the AT on your resume or discuss it during your interviews?

01:27:45 - What accounted for the four year gap between the AT and your next hike?

01:29:39 - Do your coworkers know you for your hiking?

01:33:02 - How did you decide to do the Colorado Trail?

01:34:17 - Did you start in the same place each time you’ve done the Four Pass Loop?

01:36:00 - Discussion about the logistics of the Four Pass Loop

01:41:55 - Tell us about your mountain lion encounter on the CT

01:50:00 - Discussion about off-roading

01:51:40 - How was your Foothills Trail hike?

01:57:10 - What insects did you see?

02:00:00 - How was your Trans Catalina Trail experience?

02:04:29 - How was the John Muir Trail?

02:07:50 - Discussion about the PCT southbound

02:12:20 - Tell us about the Patagonia O Circuit

02:14:23 - Is the O Circuit accessible for someone who isn’t an experienced backpacker?

02:15:58 - What kind of mileage and elevation gain does the trail entail?

02:17:30 - Discussion about costs, food, and gear

02:19:37 - Where do you fly into and how do you get to trail?

02:21:24 - How did you feel safety-wise?

02:22:55 - Did the structure of the hike take away from the wildness of the area?

02:25:00 - Did you feel fine traveling in that area without speaking Spanish?

02:26:50 - Discussion about the weather and clothing

02:30:29 - Kumo Question: What would your walkup song be if you were entering the Olympics for a random sport?

02:33:50 - Where can people follow you and get your book?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Norovirus Alert: Appalachian Trail Hikers Urged to Stay Vigilant Amid Outbreak by Ariella Nardizzi

QOTD: Have you ever heard of storing food underwater in the backcountry?

Triple Crown of movies you’ve cried to

One Star Trail Reviews

Listener Voicemail

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Jason “Snail” Snailer barely know her, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns.

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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Stuart Howe on Backpacking with His Twin Daughters across Canadian National Parks

Foot Strength, Injury Prevention, Footwear Recommendations, and Gait Mechanics with Dr. Courtney Conley

Mary "Badass" Anderson an AT Winter SOBO in the 80s and Hiking the National Scenic Trails as an Older Solo Female

Adam Cramer, CEO of Outdoor Alliance, on the EXPLORE Act and Conservation Advocacy

John Mackey, Whole Foods Co-Founder, on His Thru-Hiking Experience, Co-Owning Gossamer Gear, and Entrepreneurship

Skin Protection on Trail: Sunscreen, Clothing, and Supplements with Dr. Katie Manno

Katie "Oats" Houston on the Appalachian High Route, Lone Star Trail, and Breaking Out in the Outdoor Industry

Taylor the Nahamsha Hiker on Hiking the AT Twice, Youtube Fame, and Running a Gift Shop

Brandon "Horsepower" Weis on the Calendar Year Triple Crown and Arizona Trail

Quoc "Double Magic" Nguyen on the Alaska Traverse, Norge pa Langs, and Brooks Traverse

Q&A with Hiking Viking: Underrated Gear, Favorite Hikes, & Go-To Backpacking Foods

Backpacker Radio LIVE with Ryan "Dirtmonger" Sylva

Audrey "Glowstick" Payne on the Patagonia O Circuit, Tramily Breakups, and Balancing a Career with Hiking