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In Episode 13 of Between Two Pumps, the guys tackle a question that has shaped the collector car market for decades: What actually makes a car rare?
From BMW M5s and M3 Lightweights to Buick GNXs, Bullitt Mustangs, Dodge Demons, Porsche special editions, and the infamous 1978 Corvette Pace Car, the conversation explores how manufacturers create exclusivityâand whether collectors should believe the hype.
Along the way, Mike Musto, Terry Shea, and Terry McGean debate limited-production runs, homologation specials, canceled promotions, performance badges, and the difference between genuinely rare cars and vehicles that were simply marketed as such. They also dive into modern performance brands like BMW M, AMG, Audi RS, and Porsche GT models, asking whether today's endless stream of special editions has diluted what once made these cars truly special.
Because when every car is a special edition, it's fair to ask if any of them still are.
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In Episode 12 of Between Two Pumps, the guys tackle a question that's becoming harder to answer every year: Do performance badges still mean what they used to?
From BMW M and M Sport to Mercedes-AMG, Audi S and RS models, Volvo R-Designs, and Volkswagen R-Lines, the conversation explores how automakers have expanded their performance brands beyond the hardcore enthusiast cars that built their reputations. Along the way, Mike Musto, Terry Shea, and Terry McGean debate whether these modern "sport" packages offer genuine performance improvements or simply deliver the look and image of the real thing.
The episode also dives into the evolution of BMW's M division, the rise of AMG sub-models, classic muscle car parallels, halo-car marketing, and whether enthusiasts should embrace these watered-down performance variants or reject them altogether.
Because sometimes the biggest question isn't how fast a car isâit's whether the badge on the trunk still means what you think it does.
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In Episode 11 of Between Two Pumps, the guys tackle a question every enthusiast seems to be asking: Can you still buy a truly analog driver's car in the modern era?
From BMW M Coupes and Porsche 996s to Subaru BRZs, Volkswagen GTIs, Mitsubishi Evos, Mustangs, Lotuses, and Civic Type Rs, the conversation explores the cars that continue to deliver genuine driver engagement in an increasingly digital world. Along the way, they debate where the line exists between "analog" and simply "engaging," and whether modern performance cars have become too heavy, too complicated, and too disconnected from the driving experience enthusiasts crave.
The episode also dives into affordable modern classics, overlooked performance bargains, manual transmissions, and the cars they'd buy today before values climb even higher.
Because sometimes the best driver's car isn't the fastest oneâit's the one that makes you look for the long way home.
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In Episode 10 of Between Two Pumps, the guys explore a different way of looking at collector cars: not by horsepower, rarity, or auction resultsâbut by the adventures they unlock.
From the London to Brighton Veteran Car Run and the snowy mountain roads of the Planai Classic to Radwood, TROG, vintage racing, and the Great Race, the conversation dives into the events that inspire enthusiasts to buy cars they might never have considered otherwise. Along the way, they discuss everything from Curved Dash Oldsmobiles and Austin Sevens to Fox-body Mustangs, BMW 2002s, and even the world's nicest Pontiac Aztek.
The episode examines how experiences can influence collector car values, why certain events create demand for overlooked vehicles, and how the right adventure can completely change the way you view a car.
Because sometimes the best reason to buy a collector car isn't what it isâit's where it can take you.
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In Episode 9 of Between Two Pumps, the guys tackle one of the collector car world's most debated questions: does anybody still want pre-war cars?
What starts as a conversation about Model As, Packards, and Full Classics quickly turns into a deeper discussion about why younger enthusiasts are becoming fascinated with analog experiences, tactile machines, and cars that demand skill, patience, and intentionality to drive. Along the way, the crew explores everything from Pebble Beach-era classics and vintage road rallies through the Alps to manual chokes, non-synchronized transmissions, and the surprising appeal of technology from another century.
From million-dollar Duesenbergs and coachbuilt Packards to humble Model Ts and Austin Sevens, the episode breaks down why these cars still matterâand why the experience of driving them may be more relevant now than ever in an increasingly digital world.
Because sometimes the slowest cars create the most memorable experiences.
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In Episode 8 of Between Two Pumps, the guys dive into one of the biggest debates in car culture: stock restorations versus day-two builds, restomods, and full-blown pro touring machines.
What started as simple bolt-on upgrades and period-correct modifications has evolved into a world of giant-killer Camaros, track-ready muscle cars, and classics rebuilt to outperform modern performance cars. Along the way, the conversation explores the origins of pro touring, the emotional connection enthusiasts have with modifying cars, and why some builds feel timeless while others become little more than expensive parts catalogs.
From first-gen Camaros and big-block Chargers to one-lap legends and modernized muscle, the episode breaks down what actually makes a modified car workâand why the best builds are about more than horsepower numbers or oversized wheels.
Because sometimes the most interesting classics aren't the ones left untouchedâthey're the ones reimagined with purpose.
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In Episode 7 of Between Two Pumps, the guys dig into one of the most misunderstood concepts in the collector car world: the idea of the "blue chip" car.
Is it about rarity? Performance? Cultural impact? Or simply a safe place to park your money?
From mid-year Corvettes and modern ZR1s to Dodge Chargers shaped by Hollywood and pop culture, the conversation breaks down why some cars become untouchable icons while othersâdespite performance or pedigreeânever quite get there. Along the way, they explore rising stars, overlooked opportunities, and the subtle forces that drive long-term value.
Because in this market, it's not just about what a car isâit's about what it means.
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In Episode 6 of Between Two Pumps, the crew tackles one of the most polarizing debates in car culture: are classic cars meant to be preserved⊠or driven?
From concours-level restorations to bug-splattered cross-country road trips, the conversation dives deep into the psychology behind "garage queens" and the people who own them. Is it about perfection, competition, and preservationâor are some owners missing the entire point?
The guys unpack everything from muscle car collecting trends to Pebble Beach-level judging, accidental garage queens, and the emotional weight of cars that sit too long. Along the way, they share personal stories, including long-owned Camaros, forgotten Barracudas, and the regret that comes from not making memories behind the wheel.
Because at the end of the day, the question isn't just what is your car worthâit's what has it given you?
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In this episode of Between Two Pumps, the guys take a trip back to two of the most defining decades in automotive historyâthe 1980s and 1990sâand try to answer a deceptively simple question: what are the best cars from each era?
What starts as a friendly exercise quickly turns into a mix of personal nostalgia, real-world experience, and some unapologetic dream picks. From Fox-body Mustangs and Buick Turbo Regals to icons like the Ferrari F40 and McLaren F1, the conversation moves fluidly between cars you could actually own and the ones that lived on your bedroom wall.
There's no clean ranking hereâjust the cars that left an impression. The ones you remember seeing, hearing, or chasing. And maybe, if you're lucky, the ones you still want today
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In this episode of Between Two Pumps, Mike Musto, Terry Shea, and Terry McGean dig into the idea of "Fat Elvis vs. Skinny Elvis" and apply it to carsâcomparing lightweight, analog originals to their heavier, more powerful modern counterparts.
From the BMW M5 and Jaguar E-Type to the Nissan Z, Porsche 911, and even the Ford F-150, the guys break down how cars evolve over timeâgaining weight, tech, and performance, but sometimes losing the magic that made them great in the first place.
Are modern cars better⊠or just bigger?
Can "Fat Elvis" still perform?It's a mix of sharp opinions, real experience, and the kind of debate every enthusiast has had at some point.
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In this episode of Between Two Pumps, the crew dives into one of the most debated topics in the collector car world: restored vs original.
Are perfectly restored cars still kingâor are buyers shifting toward survivor cars, barn finds, and driver-quality builds?
From million-dollar unrestored discoveries to the rise of restomods and pro-touring builds, this episode explores how values are changingâand why the best car might not be the most perfect one.
The conversation also touches on usability vs investment, why high-mileage cars can outperform low-mile examples in real-world enjoyment, and what today's market is actually rewarding.
Whether you're buying, selling, or building, this episode will challenge how you think about value in the collector car world.
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What cars actually live up to the hypeâand which ones don't?
In this episode of Between Two Pumps, we get into the cars that surprised us, the ones that completely let us down, and why some vehicles prove you should never meet your heroes. From unexpected standouts like classic Alfa Romeos to iconic disappointments like the Turbo Trans Am, this episode is all about real-world driving experiences and honest enthusiast takes.
We also talk about which cars have aged well, which haven't, and how expectations can shape the way we experience a car behind the wheel.
If you've ever chased a dream carâor been surprised by something you didn't expectâthis one's for you.
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What would you buy with $1 million to spend on cars?
In the debut episode of Between Two Pumps, hosts Terry Shea, Mike Musto, and Terry McGean tackle the ultimate enthusiast question: go all-in on one dream car or build a diverse garage. From attainable performance picks to collector-grade icons, the conversation dives into what actually makes a car worth owningâand why the "best" choice isn't always the most expensive.
This episode sets the tone for the show: candid debate, deep automotive knowledge, and real-world perspective from decades of experience in the collector car market.
IN THIS EPISODE
One car vs. collection debate Building a $1M dream garage Best value enthusiast cars What makes a car truly enjoyable Real insights from the collector car market ABOUT THE SHOWBetween Two Pumps is a Hemmings podcast hosted by Terry Shea, Mike Musto, and Terry McGeanâbringing together decades of automotive experience, honest opinions, and real marketplace insight to help enthusiasts better understand the cars they love.
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