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Matt Fox has been chasing a sub-2:20 marathon for the past few years, and after about eight attempts, he finally did it this year in Chicago, running 2:19:31. And after toiling so long to hit that mark, he managed to do it again four weeks later in Indianapolis where he ran another PB of 2:18:41!
In this conversation, we talk about some of the factors that led to these results, including speed work, nutrition, weight training and improved sleep. We also cover the recent women’s marathon world record which went down in Chicago, as well as doping and changes to the running media landscape since he started Sweat Elite. TW: We talk about diet and weight loss between 40-45 minutes so skip that part if that’s triggering for you.
Matt Fox founded media company Sweat Elite in late 2016 and has since interviewed and filmed training sessions of more than 250 professional athletes. You can check out those videos on the Sweat Elite YouTube channel.
Matt has a background in middle-distance running, having competed at an international level in the 800m and 1500m in 2006-2013 before transitioning to the half marathon and marathon. He placed 5th in the Australian National Championships in the 800m on two occasions and 2nd at the Australian National Junior Championships. Matt debuted in the half marathon and marathon in late 2017- running 1:22 and 2:59 before gradually lowering his personal bests over the following years to 1:06 and 2:18. Matt continues has raced in 20+ marathons and has a goal of breaking 2:16 in the coming years.
Matt’s Instagram: @mattinglisfox
Sweat Elite Instagram: @sweatelite
Sweat Elite videos: YouTube
Matt’s gift for the listeners: Make it count video by Casey Neistat
Run With It Instagram: @runwithit.pod
Elise Beacom Instagram: @elisebeacom
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Intro and outro music by Dan Beacom
Graphic design by Kate Scheer
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Alice and Elise are back for another edition of Sole Sisters. This week the focus is the “offseason”, which is the wedge of time for recovery, relaxation and fun (non-running) activities after a key race.
Not going to lie, this episode is slightly manic – the duo go from talking about Alice’s experience with ritualistic burnings under a full Costa Rican moon, to that time Elise ended up in Costa Rica after being deported from a neighbouring country.
In other words, it’s flush with travel stories and off-piste anecdotes, with some good running-focused chats in between, including why it’s so important mentally and physically to give your body a break after a marathon (even if the super shoes trick you into thinking you’re fully recovered).
Alice’s Instagram: @alicebaquie
Elise’s Instagram: @elisebeacom
Run With It: @runwithit.pod
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Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom
Graphic design by Kate Scheer
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Vanessa Wilson describes herself as a mum and PE teacher from the outer burbs of Melbourne who likes to run. But Vanessa is seriously downplaying her ability – perhaps because she’s genuinely shocked by how far her running has come.
She’s almost unwittingly just become the 13th fastest Australian woman marathoner of all time, running 2:28:34 at Berlin Marathon this year, which she achieved after breaking her wrist at the 2km mark of the race! This is such an inspiring conversation for anyone chasing big goals while juggling family, work and life. Vanessa's advice: 1. Be consistent; 2. Don't do too much; and 3. Listen to your body.
With a background as a Body Pump instructor and an AFL boundary umpire, Vanessa, 42, had little exposure to the running world until 2017. After the birth of her daughter Anja, she started jogging to regain fitness, encouraged by her husband (and coach) who was a former elite athlete. Her first running goal was to break 25 minutes at Parkrun, which she did sooner than expected. She joined Glenhuntly Athletics Club and had natural speed, finding love for the 1500m and breaking the 5-minute barrier that year. Her Parkrun times continued to come down and by the end of 2018 she had broken 20 minutes.
The foundations for marathon training were built during Covid when Vanessa had time to add more running load, including a long run. She made her marathon debut in 2021, running 2:40:20 at Melbourne Marathon. In 2022, she ran 2:39:52 at Melbourne and set a new Victorian Masters W40 record in the 1500m. In 2023, she made a big breakthrough, running 2:34:36 in Berlin, before bettering her PB with a 2:31:45 in Hannover earlier this year. Watch this space!
--Vanessa's instagram: @vanessateacherrunner
Run With It instagram: @runwithit.pod
Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom
Graphic design by Kate Scheer
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Elise Beacom and Alice Baquie have teamed up for a new fortnightly series called Sole Sisters. Tune in for running insights, sisterhood vibes, life misadventures and many detours along the way.
In episode 1, the duo discuss Alice’s unconventional preparation for Melbourne Marathon. In her debut marathon build up, Alice ran no more than 10km four times per week, with a hell of a lot of pilates, swimming, cycling and surfing in between. Listen in to find out why she took on this challenge, and how it played out on the day. No spoilers, but it involves corded headphones, flat Coke and lots of sister support!
Let us know what you think of the show. And if you have any questions, send them through to @runwithit.pod and we’ll answer them on the next episode.
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Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom
Graphic design by Kate Scheer
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Jaryd Clifford experienced one of the cruellest Paralympic Games you could imagine. First, he was disqualified in the 5000m after crossing the line in bronze medal position. To really rub salt in the wounds, he missed out on another bronze in the 1500m by 0.01 of a second. Ouch.
In his first podcast appearance since his Paris heartbreak, Jaryd speaks about what went wrong, the lessons he learnt the hard way and how he’s bouncing back with optimism and excitement for the future. We talk about the positives that can come from experiencing failure and why your inner circle is so important for helping you recover from disappointment. The lessons in resilience that Jaryd shares can honestly be applied to anyone in any situation. This is a must listen!
At the age of 25, Jaryd Clifford has already achieved so much. He’s a world champion, world record holder and three-time Paralympian for Australia in the category for vision impairment across multiple distances. He won two silver medals in the T13 5000m and the T12 marathon, and a bronze in the T13 1500m at the Paralympics in Tokyo. Jaryd is sponsored by Nike, has a Bachelor of Arts in International Relations and Politics/Criminology, and does public speaking in his spare time.
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Jaryd’s Instagram: @jarydclifford
Run With It Instagram: @runwithit.pod
Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom
Graphic design by Kate Scheer
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Brit de Groot is the first to admit she’s not great at meditation. Instead, she uses running to quieten her brain. Having discovered the power of running for her own mental health, Brit is sharing the good vibes around. Whether she’s convincing metal musicians to go jogging, fundraising for mental health, or leading Flow State, a run club for women with a focus on mental wellbeing rather than performance, Brit does a hell of a lot for our community.
In this episode we talk about the explosion of run clubs (including our thoughts on the trend towards using them for dating), women’s safety on the run, music, grief, and why Brit so strongly advocates for mental health awareness (TW: women's safety and suicide). I can’t think of a more fitting episode release for World Mental Health Day.
Brit has worked in the music industry for the past 15 years. She started running in 2020, and since then has become entrenched in the Melbourne running community. She finds people are often surprised that she can exist in the two worlds of music and running due to the stereotypes associated with both.
After losing a close friend in early 2021, Brit started her journey into mental health advocacy and awareness, with a particular focus on helping those in the music industry. Flow State Run Club was born in 2022 to create a safe space for women runners.
Flow State meets at the Running Company store in Albert Park at 6pm on Wednesdays. All femme-identifying runners welcome.
Brit’s instagram: @brit_degroot
Flow State: @flow.state.rc
Run 2 Cure Neuroblastoma: Join Hazzy’s team @Run2cureau on 10 November in support of Neuroblastoma Australia.
If this episode has brought anything up for you, reach out to support services in your area. Here are a couple of numbers you can call in Australia:
Beyond Blue – 1300 22 4636 (open 24/7)Lifeline Australia – 13 11 14Suicide Call Back Service – 1300 659 467 -
Claudia Hollingsworth is the kind of person who would excel at anything she put her mind to. The 19-year-old Australian is already an Olympic semi-finalist, World Under-20 silver medallist and Australian Champion in the 800m, and she’s just getting started.
In this conversation, we delve into Claudia’s incredible year, what it’s like to train with On Athletics Club Oceania, and how she’s ready to go all in as a professional athlete (with uni studies on the side). You’ll also hear a few quirky facts about Claudia’s passions off the track (hint: pinecones and dead bugs).
Claudia first captured attention at primary school when she was selected for the Pacific School Games and competed at the National Primary Schools Cross Country. But it was when world 5000m bronze medallist Craig Mottram became her coach that her track-and-field career really started to gain momentum. While still at high school, she earned selection for the 2022 World Athletics Championships in Oregon.
This year in a highly competitive 800m field at the Paris Olympics, Claudia wowed the world with a mature, clinical and confident run that saw her come 2nd in her heat and sail straight through to the semi-finals. Sport has always been part of Claudia’s DNA, having been an avid Australian Rules football player with the East Brighton Vampires and the Sandringham Dragons. Although she considered applying to the AFL Women’s draft, ultimately track and field won her heart.--
Claudia's instagram: @claudiahollingsworth_Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom Graphic design by Kate Scheer
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Ed Goddard is the kind of guy who draws cherry blossoms on his Asics prototype shoes (I know because he showed me on our Zoom call). At 26, the Australian distance runner with a mullet and love of rock and roll has been on the rising star list for a while now.
In this conversation we talk about Ed’s triangle of fun – running, swimming and music (in no particular order), the importance of relishing the little things in life (sandwiches), and how to keep running fun (even when it’s your job). We also speak about broken bones, the stress of hunting Olympic qualifiers, and Ed’s experience with relative energy deficiency in sport.
Ed Goddard is from Mossman, New South Wales. He has a 10,000m PB of 28:23 and a half marathon PB of 62:16, and has his sights set on bringing those times down so he can convert to a faster marathon (current PB of 2:12:52). Ed loves music from bygone eras and has about 800 vinyl records in his collection. If he’s not running with his phone in his hand blasting tunes, he’ll be swimming at the beach or watching the Chicago Cubs. Ed spent a brief stint running for Iona College in New York and has degrees in Property Economics and Sports Communication.--
Ed's Instagram: @edgoddard3kEd's Strava: https://www.strava.com/pros/26943045
Ed's Spotify playlist: Songs to crash your car to
Run With It Instagram: @runwithit.pod
Intro/outro music by Dan BeacomGraphic design by Kate Scheer
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If you have a tattoo bet for Mitch Dyer, he’ll take it on. The sports journalist has forgotten exactly how many tattoo bets he’s lost, but they’ve resulted in everything from a seahorse, to a choice phrase on his butt cheek.
Mitch is the founder of Straight At It, a media company devoted to athletics news and content on social media. This year he’s been reporting at the Olympics and US Olympic Trials for Citius Mag and chasing summer Diamond League races in Europe with photographer Jacob Gower. He’s also shared the commentary box with the likes of legends Bruce McAvaney and Tamsyn Manou. Next up for Mitch? Expanding his social media model to include more sports!
His early days starting Straight At It looked very different. First, he quit his job as a sports reporter with a News Corp newspaper in Mackay and sold most of his possessions to report on athletics as a freelancer in Europe. When he got there, he was sleeping in 8-10 bed dorm rooms, calling in favours from friends and living on the smell of an oily rag.
But he burnt for it, and it burnt him out.
Mitch has some valuable lessons to share from those experiences, from taking time out to eat cheese (not chicken!) twisties, to separating who you are as a person from what you do, there’s laughter and frivolity and wisdom in equal parts in this episode.
Mitch Dyer is an Australian sports journalist, with a focus on broadcasting, social media, hosting events and commentating. He was formerly a carpenter, marketing employee and US college athlete. He is the founder of Straight At It, which is part of the At It network.
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Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom
Graphic design by Kate Scheer
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Bree-Bree can do anything! Bree Masters is a sprinter who recently became the first Australian woman in 24 years to make a 100m semi-final at an Olympics.
In this conversation, we cover Bree's life as a triple threat (dancer, surf lifesaver, sprinter), what it’s like to line up next to defending World Champion Sha’Carri Richardson and scoring free tattoos in the Olympic village!
Bree Masters was a dancer growing up in New South Wales. She attended a performing arts high school in Sydney and had dreams of becoming a professional dancer. Running on the track and on the sand was also a big part of Bree’s life. She was a talented surf lifesaver, excelling in beach sprints, and moved to the Gold Coast to compete professionally. After winning the World Beach Sprint title in 2016 and the Australian Beach Sprint title in 2019, Bree wanted a new challenge and turned her attention to the track.
Since switching her focus to track five years ago, Bree progressed quickly. She made her international debut for Australia at the 2022 World Athletics Championships in Oregon, where she ran 100m in 11.29 – the fastest time by an Australian woman at a global meeting in 15 years. She also competed at the World Champs in Budapest and the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham. Earlier this year at London Diamond League she was part of a 4 x 100m relay team that broke the Australian Record (42.48).
At the Paris Olympics, Bree came third in her heat (11.26) to become the first Australian woman to make an Olympic 100m semi-final since 2000. Her current 100m PB is 11.23, which she ran in Auckland, New Zealand. While Bree also competes in the 200m (23.21 PB), she's recently focused her attention on the 100m.
Bree balances life as an athlete with a part-time role in public relations with apparel brand, LSKD.
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Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom
Graphic design by Kate Scheer
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Angus Hincksman is about to compete in his first Paralympics in the T38 1500m. The 19-year-old Australian is an absolute gun on the track, and is a pretty handy golfer and surf lifesaver too.
In this conversation, we talk about the evolution of para sports, what the Paralympic movement means to him and why he’s so motivated to inspire younger kids with disabilities.
Angus Hincksman is a middle-distance runner from Adelaide, Australia. Diagnosed with a brain injury at birth, Angus's early life was marked by challenges including seizures, physiotherapy and countless doctor’s appointments.
After taking up running in 2015, Angus was classified as a T38 athlete, a category for individuals with Cerebral Palsy, affecting muscle control and coordination. With support from organisation, Novita and his local athletics clubs, Angus made significant strides in the sport.
Since then, he has set national age records across multiple distances and won several national titles, including winning the T38 800m at the Australian Athletics Championships in Adelaide this year. In 2023, he won bronze in the T38 1500m at the World Para Athletics Championships. The Paralympics Games in Paris marks his Paralympic debut.-Intro and outro music by Dan Beacom Graphic design by Kate Scheer
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Photographer Casey Sims shot for 19 days straight at the Paris Olympics, surviving on Red Bull, vibes and bad coffee in the media room. She was working with the Oceania National Olympics Committees on an assignment to capture athletes from the Pacific Islands across multiple sports, including athletics.
In this conversation, we cover Casey’s most memorable shots, how to stand your ground as a female photographer, and what makes an image go viral. We talk about how the Olympics experience compared with the World Athletics Championships in Budapest last year, and all the learnings along the way.
Casey Sims started shooting track and field several years ago and is a self-proclaimed athletics nerd deeply involved in the sport in her hometown Brisbane, Australia. Since such beginnings, she’s shot at the World Athletics Cross Country Championships in Bathurst, World Athletics Championships in Budapest, Oceania Athletics Championships in Fiji and the Paris Olympics. She won the Women’s Sport Australia Photo Action Amateur Award in 2020 and 2021, and was a finalist for the Canon Clique Awards in 2022.
Casey currently divides her time as a Media and Communications Officer with the Oceania Athletics Association and as a lecturer in exercise science at Queensland University of Technology.
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It's our Paris Olympics recap show! I’m joined by pilates queen and athletics fan Alice Baquie. Together, we chat all things Olympics: the highs including Jess Hull’s silver medal in the women’s 1500m, to the lows of athletes being trolled online. I share an on-the-ground perspective from the men’s 1500m final where I was trackside, while Alice tells us about her riotous marathon watch party where gin shots may have been consumed.Alice Baquie has worked as a physiotherapist for 14 years in a hospital setting, in private practice clinic and on sporting team bodies, ranging from the Singaporean gymnastics to hockey teams to Victorian Institute of Sport athletics.
Recently, Alice found her niche in the Pilates for runners space, where the focus is on injury prevention. Alice took a pivot into the tech industry during the pandemic and founded an app which she works passionately on daily, in addition to community-based physiotherapy and Pilates.
As a former elite gymnast and having competed at a national level for distance running in cross country, Alice possesses a profound understanding of athletes' unique needs and feels they can be applied to every active person for better health outcomes. Her influence is far-reaching, hosting a multitude of classes with a dedicated following, including 25 Australian, German, American, British and South African Olympians.--
Intro and outro music by Dan Beacom
Graphic design by Kate Scheer
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If you want a story of drive, grit and determination, this episode with Kate Smyth is for you. Kate represented Australia in the marathon at the Beijing Olympics in 2008 and the Commonwealth Games in 2006. We talk about all the hurdles she had to overcome to qualify for those teams, and why she persevered when so many people told her to give up. We discuss why outcome-focused goals don’t always serve us, and how your biggest dreams don’t always match up with reality. Kate has a personal best of 2:28, which she ran in Nagano, Japan to qualify for the Olympics. These days, Kate is a holistic health and performance coach, guest speaker and director at the Athlete Sanctuary, a sports clinic designed for athletes yearning to take on extraordinary challenges. She provides support to sportswomen through a balanced health, holistic nutrition and female-centred exercise approach. Kate developed her passion for health during her running career. Although now retired from competition, Kate maintains a daily physical fitness routine including running, riding and strength work and a balanced nutrition approach direct from her edible garden.
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Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom
Graphic design by Kate Scheer
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Liam Adams is running the marathon in Paris this weekend! We spoke while he was training in Flagstaff, Arizona, surviving dodgy motel accommodation and encounters with wild animals. We talk about his rocky road to Australian team selection, what training has looked like recently, his goals for Paris, and the challenges of being unsponsored while running at the highest level.
Liam is an Australian marathoner who famously works full-time as a sparky (sparky is slang for electrician for our international listeners). Liam ran his PB of 2:08:39 on the Gold Coast in 2023, which was the fastest time run by an Aussie in Australia, and Liam is confident there’s more in the tank.
Liam is already a 2x Olympian, having represented Australia in the marathon at the Rio Olympics in 2016 and placing 24th at the Tokyo Olympics. He’s also competed at the Commonwealth Games and the World Athletics Cross-Country Championships. Paris will be his third Games.
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Intro and outro music by Dan Beacom
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Fancy getting a ticket to Paris at 22? Adam Spencer has done it!Adam is an Australian middle-distance runner, currently studying at college at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in the US. The 22-year-old is set to line up for his maiden Games experience, running the 1500m for Australia in what’s set to be one of the most anticipated events of the whole calendar.In this conversation, we talk about Adam’s impressive 1500m win in a stacked field at the Australian Athletics Championships in Adelaide earlier this year. We rehash his breakthrough performance of 3:31.81 at London Diamond League in 2023, and why it meant so much to him. And we hear about life at college and the comical consequences of finishing last in your cross-country team.--
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Intro and outro music by Dan Beacom
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Ever wondered who’s behind the scenes supporting our athletes to peak for the biggest races of their lives? This week we get a back-office perspective of high performance sport with sports scientist Avish Sharma. Avish dials in from an altitude training camp in St Moritz, Switzerland where he’s been supporting our Australian athletes in their preparations for Paris. We talk about how hills, heat and altitude help optimise performance, but also the soft skills required for creating a positive training environment. In other words, it’s all about a holistic approach. As an example, Jess Hull has spoken about numerous factors that have led to her breaking the 2000m World Record (5:19.70) and becoming 5th fastest woman of all-time over 1500m (3:50.83).Avish Sharma is a Performance Scientist (Physiology) at the Victorian Institute of Sport in Australia, working in the Athletics program. Prior to this, he was physiology and research lead at Triathlon Australia (2018 to 2021). He completed his PhD in altitude training (training prescription and periodisation at altitude in elite runners) at the Australian Institute of Sport and University of Canberra, whilst also supporting the Athletics and Swimming programs based there. His interests include endurance physiology (particularly optimising training prescription), holistic success factors for world class athletes, developmental pathways for sport scientists, being a mediocre surfer, and eating noodles.
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When Australian runner Izzi Batt-Doyle didn’t get selected in the marathon team for Paris, she didn’t give up on her Olympic hopes. Instead, she turned her attention to running fast on the track, clocking 14:49.75 over 5,000m in Liège, Belgium, to claim her spot on the team. That clutch performance just 11 days before the qualifying period closed put Izzi in the record books as fourth fastest Australian woman of all time over 5,000m.
In this conversation, Izzi shares how she dealt with the marathon selection disappointment and bounced back to run an Olympic Standard in the 5,000m. She also describes the wholesome fun that athletes have on training camps - Stewy McSweyn is apparently great at slam poetry, who knew?!
Izzi is a professional runner with Asics, co-founder and associate coach of Run As One and co-owner of café and running store, The Run House in Adelaide. She’s competed at the Tokyo Olympics, the Commonwealth Games, the World Athletics Championships, the World Athletics Road Running Championships and the World Athletics Cross-Country Championships, and is gearing up for her second Olympics in Paris.
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Intro and outro music by Dan Beacom
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Athletics was thrust into the mainstream media off the back of the women’s Australian marathon team selection for the Paris Olympics. Athletics isn’t accustomed to this kind of attention, and often gets swallowed up by other sports in the news cycle. The secret sauce this time? Controversy.
Zachary Gates, Olympic and Paralympic Games Reporter with Nine’s Wide World of Sports, is the journalist who broke the story on the women’s marathon team. In our conversation we talk about how he got the scoop, why athletics struggles for eyeballs, and how other sports leverage drama to get more viewers and engagement. We anticipate another potentially turbulent round of Australian Olympic team selections this week.
At the time of recording, we speculate about the Australian men’s 1500m team selection, on which Zachary has since published an article, naming Olli Hoare, Stewy McSweyn and Adam Spencer in the line up. Read that here
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