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Today, Steve speaks with Jimmie Lee, a leadership expert with decades of experience as a senior leader at companies like Boeing, Meta, and Microsoft. He explains that one of the most important things a business leader can do in times of crisis, is to keep focus on the big picture and the long term goals. Jimmie and Steve also discuss how to manage a team in a post-covid workplace and building supply chain resilience — and why empathy matters more than ever.
Key Takeaways:Empathy for your team members is more important than ever for a thriving business.Relationship-building must begin before the crisis happens.Geopolitical instability is causing a shift from risk management to resilience.Tune in to hear more about:If empathy can be taught (12:50)How to build trust in a business environment that’s more virtual than ever (15:47)Why many businesses are struggling because of today’s volatile geopolitical landscape (21:33)Standout Quotes:“There's a lot of tools that I would typically lean on or go to, but the number one is honestly just empathetic connection. It is really just connecting with the leaders and help them understand that they're not alone. I think a lot of times as a leader, you get too stuck in the problems that you start trying to solve, that you focus more trying to solve them in the business, and you go deeper instead of staying up at the leadership level and start working on the business itself.” - Jimmie Lee“Now you have trust to work off of. If you didn't have that trust and that mistake happened, it's an uphill climb to get to a point of good with that person now. I don't know that we're equipping our employees, that we're actually giving our teams that visibility, that knowledge, that training. […] Are we as companies, are we as leaders investing in our training budget in that kind of way to target those areas?” - Jimmie Lee“I think the geopolitical landscape is potentially gonna shift the visibility and the approach and the strategy from small, medium- sized businesses and middle market to have more attention on that supply chain because. When it comes to geopolitical instability, when it comes to geo-economic macro and the micro instability, resilience is key. Resilience is the lifeblood. Resilience is your ability to last, to withstand the fluctuations, but if you don't have enough visibility and awareness of all the different components that are impacted, you can't navigate those waters.” - Jimmie LeeRead the transcript of this episode
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Today’s episode will focus on the challenges of the cyber landscape in the United States, as Steve sits down with Yolanda Williams, who is the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency’s cyber security coordinator in the state of Florida. Steve and Yolanda dive deep into her work communicating cyber in a region where it for many isn’t top-of-mind and how state sovereignty and lack of standardisation between local stakeholders poses unique challenges. We hope that Yolanda’s many examples of successfully working with Floridians and stakeholders across the state will resonate with listeners across the US—and perhaps across the pond, too.
Key Takeaways:Cyber leaders must possess the ability to shape their communication based on what the audience is looking for.Organisations are much more open to cyber advice today than they were five years ago. Look at the language in your contracts! Mistakes can prove costly from both a financial perspective and a cyber perspective.Tune in to hear more about:How cyber connects to physical security (3:25)The challenges of a lack of standardised guidelines or federal regulation (10:23)The importance of keeping local backups and not only use the cloud (18:24)Standout Quotes:“I hear a lot of people say, ‘dumb it down.’ But you don't want to dumb it down. You just want to make sure that you're tailoring it specifically. You may have technical folks who are looking for, okay, what was the ransomware? Who did it? Who deployed it? How was it deployed? What was the payload? All those types of things. And they want to get into the deep dive of it. A lot of individuals don't. I'll speak to healthcare individuals and they're more looking at ‘I'm not a target. I'm a small doctor's office. I'm not a target.’ And one of the things we try to get across to everyone is: you are definitely a target. If you have a US IP address, you are a target.” - Yolanda Williams“There are federal guidelines for federal agencies. However, we respect our states and their sovereignty, and one of the things I found in Florida definitely was a lack of collaboration. Even from the city to the county, there's nothing structured across the board.” - Yolanda Williams“One of the steps that I recommend across the board for anyone that I'm talking to is looking at the language in your contracts, making sure that language is covering, not just what you're purchasing.[…] So making sure that you're looking at that contract language and have somebody that's looking at it that understands the lexicon, understands what is required. You can't just hire somebody off the street and say, ‘Oh yeah, write this contract,’ and they don't know what should be in the contract.” - Yolanda WilliamsRead the transcript of this episode
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Financial due diligence is common practice when companies merge or one business acquires another. Cyber security due diligence, however, is not quite as common. Yet, in a world where the threat landscape changes by the day and risk is growing increasingly complex, solid cyber security practices are more important than ever.
Today, Steve and Tavia dig into this very topic, and, more specifically, what role cyber security has in a merger or an acquisition. How is a cyber security review done? Why are they important? How do we balance speed with thoroughness? How do we interpret the results? There’s a lot to dig into here.
Key Takeaways:Cyber due diligence is paramount in a corporate acquisition or merger.Risks of not doing cyber due diligence include both financial and reputational.Cyber due diligence is a team game.Tune in to hear more about:Who should be responsible for conducting the cyber review (4:34)How organizations can build cyber into their due diligence process (14:05)Examples of where insufficient cyber due diligence proved costly (19:05)Standout Quotes:“You can't play a team sport without a team. And for me, M&A is a team game. You can't go it alone. I think it would be a mistake for somebody to think that they could do this kind of work solo. Because as we've seen with cyber maturing, it now touches so many different parts of the organization. You do need to be involved.” - Steve Durbin“I think people are getting it. What I'm seeing now is people get it, but they don't know how to do it. That's where the cyber professional really now has to step up.” - Steve Durbin“Pre-deal, I think it is about being focused. It's about identifying, prioritizing the high risk areas that are out there that you want to look into. It's about doing things like making sure that the governance is there. It's about scanning for some of the known vulnerabilities. If you are in one particular market sector and you're buying a company in another because of expansion growth, you're going to need to be covering off a whole range of different things that perhaps might be unusual for you because you haven't been having to look into those areas.” - Steve DurbinRead the transcript of this episode
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Today, Steve speaks with Lauren Farina, psychotherapist and founder of Invited Psychotherapy & Coaching. Lauren and Steve discuss how wellness is becoming a bigger part of the workplace and how we can stay mentally healthy during times of stress and pressure. Also an expert on “high-performance individuals,” Lauren shares what it means to be high-performing and why rest can be just as productive as work.
Key Takeaways:Being a high-performer isn’t just about work. Rest is productiveBuilding psychological safety within an organization is the most important contributor to elite performance. Tune in to hear more about:What the “High Performer Archetype” is (6:15)The risks of not taking time to rest (11:22)How leaders can improve the performance of their teams (19:33)Standout Quotes:“ As many of us know, acute stress is quite good for us. But in the long term, the chronic unrelenting demands that I think remote working arrangements have placed on the workforce, really can erode our performance because our cognitive functioning is not at its peak when we're chronically stressed, our memory, our learning, our judgment, our decision making is compromised.” - Lauren Farina“ There was a five -year study at Google called the Aristotle Project, and the Aristotle project found that psychological safety is the single most important factor when it comes to the elite performance of individuals and groups.“ - Lauren Farina“ It is my hope that there will be an increased focus on intersectionality of performance and wellbeing and increased support of individuals and groups in cultivating wellbeing. Not only for the sake of wellbeing, but also for the sake of peak performance.” - Lauren FarinaRead the transcript of this episode
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Today, Steve Durbin and ISF Podcast Producer Tavia Gilbert are in conversation exploring the role of cybersecurity, governance and leadership in an age defined by rapid technological transformation. Artificial intelligence is now woven into daily business operations, risk models, customer engagement, and more. And while its benefits are significant, its risks are expanding just as quickly.
Key Takeaways:It’s becoming increasingly apparent for leaders that cyber impacts every part of the business.AI will not replace humans in the workplace, but rather redefine what work humans do.If you as a business leader don't have clarity about what your values and ethics are by now, you better get started.Tune in to hear more about:What happens if businesses don’t implement a robust framework for ethical AI use (8:51)The role of the board when implementing AI into business operations (19:49) How to lead through change (24:20)Standout Quotes:“When cyber is involved early, it really can become a value enabler. It helps the business make smarter bets, helps it to avoid blind spots and build that sort of trust that we're looking for into everything that it does.” - Steve Durbin“AI, it does introduce huge amounts of potential, but it also introduces a new layer of risk that is more complicated, dynamic and probably difficult to manage than many people actually think or are prepared for. And one of the biggest challenges is that AI doesn't just create new vulnerabilities, it changes the nature of the threat landscape completely.” - Steve Durbin“AI is not some kind of future technology. It's been around for a very long time. Certainly in cyber terms anyway, at least 10 years, if not more. It's a lifetime in cyber, so it's not a future technology, it's here. It's shaping the way that we work, that we think, and indeed that we compete. So the question isn't whether we should engage with it, it's how do we do so responsibly and effectively. And the organizations that retain control are those that lead with clarity.” - Steve DurbinRead the transcript of this episode
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Joining the podcast today is Dr. Shonna Waters, a leading researcher on the workplace of today and the future, and the Co-Founder and CEO of Fractional Insights, an organizational psychology research firm. Steve and Dr. Waters discuss the rapid transformation of the workplace, brought on by new technologies, geopolitical uncertainty, and shifting organizational priorities. They also speak about how to stay grounded when the ground around us is shaking, how security professionals can manage stress and negativity brought upon by constantly searching for threats, and how a growth mindset can help build resilience.
Key Takeaways:The professional environment is changing faster than we are. How bridging the language gap between security and sales is challenging, but key for business success.A growth mindset can build resilience. Tune in to hear more about:What people look for in the workplace (1:56)How to manage stress at work (18:22)How a growth mindset can help us become more resilient (21:42)Standout Quotes:“There's a lot going on out there, and I think that there's this general sentiment that the ground is moving under our feet. We all are feeling overstimulated and ungrounded, I think, generally speaking, and it's a really hard place to navigate as an employee. It's also a really hard place to lead from.” - Dr. Shonna Waters“No matter what you're selling or producing, there is a human at the beginning of it and at the end of it, at a minimum, right? It's the concept, the leadership of it, the orchestration, no matter how much you minimize humans in the process. There's human ingenuity at the top of that chain. And then at the bottom of it, you have your customers.” - Dr. Shonna Waters“There are conscious choices that you can make to lean more into that idea that you can grow and practice. And I think for any of us, one way to really encourage ourselves around that is to think back to other things that you've done that got easier over time or you were able to improve your skills.” - Dr. Shonna WatersRead the transcript of this episode
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Steve Durbin engages in a compelling conversation with Faisal Hoque, a world-renowned technologist and best-selling author including his recently released ‘Transcend: Unlocking Humanity in the Age of AI’.
Faisal shares his thoughts on how business leaders can preserve human values in the in the era of AI, how AI and humans can function together, and the threats posed by ceding control of our humanity to AI. Find out why he feels the government needs to provide legislative structures to protect citizens.
Key Takeaways:
1. The challenge for business leaders in preserving human values amidst the rise of AI
2. How AI is gradually diminishing human emotion in daily life
3. The risks involved in relinquishing human control to AI
Tune in to hear more about:
1. Preserving human values (1:14)
2. How government policies can influence society and the development of AI (6:15)
3. Harnessing the potential of AI whilst mitigating the risk (18:11)
Standout quotes:
1. "The government needs to provide the legislative structures where citizens are protected. Things like intellectual property, privacy, and free market support." - Faisal Hoque
2. "The digital divide concerns me greatly. Not just with regard to AI, but with everything that we are doing from a technology standpoint." - Faisal Hoque
3. "Leaders' job is to create that psychological safety so that we can be productive and feel that we can actually contribute and fulfill our purpose, whatever that purpose is." - Faisal Hoque
4. "AI is going to be like electricity or internet. It is going to be part and parcel of everything and anything we do." - Faisal Hoque
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In today's episode, Steve speaks with Christopher Sestito (also known as Tito), chairman of the board, CEO, and co-founder of HiddenLayer, a cyber security startup dedicated to preventing adversarial machine learning attacks. Tito shares his perspective on where the business world is currently when it comes to AI and cybersecurity. He also gives his thoughts on the state of AI regulation and what business leaders should do to protect their organizations in the age of AI.
Key Takeaways:AI is changing the cybersecurity gameTech regulation is becoming more fragmented Securing AI is really no different from securing other parts of the businessTune in to hear more about:Why Christopher Sestito started HiddenLayer (1:28)Why AI will play an increasingly important role in organizational cyber defense (5:47) What business leaders should think about as they approach cyber in the age of AI (20:18)Standout Quotes:“I think the challenge at the AI level is how fast we've moved. There's been so many advancements that if you don't have a dedicated organization looking at this, it's really just moving too quickly to ultimately have things at a sort of hardening level at the model layer itself.” - Christopher Sestito“I think I'm a bit of a realist when it comes to artificial intelligence coming in. I think we are viewing a very fundamental shift in ultimately what's gonna affect workforces and skill sets required. I think that if I was entering the workforce right now, I'd be focusing heavily on the effects of artificial intelligence, how I can leverage artificial intelligence.” - Christopher Sestito“Every organization really needs to pay attention to their agentic strategy right now. I think if you're engaged with other enterprise organizations, as all are, everyone's building agents right now, and those agents have a lot of autonomy in order to be able to conduct transactions, in order to be able to deal with data, to be able to interact, organization or organization. And I think every CISO is gonna need to be able to really articulate what they want to be allowed here and not because we're removing humans in the loop with these agents, we're allowing them to have quite a bit of agency in order to conduct these transactions at an incredible rate.” - Christopher SestitoRead the transcript of this episode
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Today, Steve talks about ISF's flagship foresight report "Threat Horizon 2027: Grasping for Control." In a world defined by disruption and acceleration, this report offers not just a forecast of cyber threats, but a blueprint for resilience, and Steve walks listeners through the key themes.
Key Takeaways:
1 Flexibility will be key in an increasingly volatile world.
2 Cyber must be considered in every aspect of an organization’s operations.
3 Control is possible, even if it sometimes doesn’t feel like it.
Tune in to hear more about:
1 Why identity is becoming more and more important for businesses (2:24)
2 How senior leaders can prepare for the future (17:06)
3 Why control is still possible (21:42)
Standout Quotes:
1 “Identity is really the cornerstone of everything that we do in the digital world, and it's fast becoming one of the most critical areas for business leaders to understand and take seriously.” - Steve Durbin
2 “Leaders need to understand the economic impact of cyber risk. What are the potential costs of disruption? How would a breach affect reputation, revenue, operations? It's the reputational bit, for instance, in my case, that worries me the most. And once you start thinking in those terms. You can make many more business-aligned, informed decisions about what you are going to do because you stop looking at the cost of doing something and instead you flip it and look at the implications and associated costs of not doing it.” - Steve Durbin
3 “I think that business leaders as a group, tend to be pretty resilient individuals. I've worked a lot with entrepreneurs, and they are probably some of the most resilient that I've ever come across because they have to be. And one of the things that they always believe in, I've found, is that irrespective of what's going on around you, control is still possible. But in order to have that level of control, it takes foresight, it takes focus, and I think above all it takes flexibility and, I would say, courage.” - Steve Durbin
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In today’s episode, Steve speaks with Tavia about how AI and other emerging technology are reshaping society, and how we as humans should react to it.
Key Takeaways:AI and other emerging tech can help society, but guardrails are needed. The world is becoming more fragmented when it comes to how it views AI and tech. With AI and new technology, we have to be increasingly cautious in our interactions in cyberspace. Tune in to hear more about:Why it’s unlikely there will be international rules around AI (4:32)How technology is changing how we interact – and what that means (7:12)What people 50 years from now might say about how we’re currently handling emerging tech (22:28)Standout Quotes:“We need to be putting in place guardrails, particularly when it comes to AI, around how it's going to be used, because we are playing with a technology, the power of which we don't fully understand yet.” - Steve Durbin“I think it is about how we get the balance right. I think that it isn't about shutting down some of the technological advances that we're seeing, it is about just being a little bit more realistic about their fallibility and trying to get equilibrium back between people and tools.” - Steve Durbin“I suspect that what they will do is take a look back and go, why on earth did they do that? Why on earth didn't somebody see that there was a better way? Because that's with the benefit of hindsight, isn't it? And we've got 20-20 vision when it comes to hindsight. And so I think that we are in the here and now and we need to find a way of muddling through. And I think that everybody has a responsibility to do that.” - Steve DurbinRead the transcript of this episode
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In this bonus episode, Steve speaks with Dr. Ellie Pavlick, a professor of computer science at Brown University. Dr. Pavlick’s research focuses on computational models of semantics and pragmatics which emulate human inferences in artificial intelligence. Steve and Ellie discuss generative AI, developing a pipeline of talent to work with it, and perspectives on its developing uses for organisations.
Related Resources from ISF:
ISF Podcast: The AI-Quantum Revolution: Today, tomorrow and the futureISF Podcast: Steve Durbin & Nicholas Witchell - The Case for Social Responsibility in AIISF Podcast: Boosting Business Success: Unleashing the potential of human and AI collaborationNavigating Boardroom Concerns: Top 9 Cybersecurity Risks and Challenges
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Tune in to this bonus episode where Steve is speaking with Prof. Federico Varese, a professor of criminology and head of the sociology department at Nuffield College at Oxford University. Prof. Varese talks with Steve about the history of organised crime in Russia and around the world, the mafia’s movement into cybercrime, and what the future may hold for these criminal organisations.
Related Resources from ISF:
ISF Podcast, Alexander Seger — How Global Law Enforcement Fight CybercrimeISF Podcast, Inside the Mind of Today’s Cybercriminals, Brett Johnson Part 1ISF Podcast, The Life of a Cybercriminal, Brett Johnson Part 2ISF Podcast - The Democratisation of CybercrimeMisha Glenny: The Evolution of Cybercrime with Misha Glenny, author of McMafia
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An interview with Steve Durbin, Chief Executive, ISF, hosted by CEO and Founder of The Drop In CEO Podcast, Deborah A. Coviello. Originally published by The Drop in CEO Podcast.
In this episode, Steve shares his unique journey from literature to cybersecurity, emphasising the importance of curiosity, learning, and fresh perspectives in leadership. The discussion delves into the evolving landscape of cybersecurity, the necessity for business leaders to adopt a resilient and informed approach to technology and risk management, and the value of continuous education and networking. Steve offers practical advice for business leaders on safeguarding against cyber threats and highlights the dynamic interplay between technology, business strategy, and security.
Episode Highlights:
01:57 Steve's Journey: From Literature to Cybersecurity
05:12 The Importance of Reading and Continuous Learning
08:02 Transitioning Careers: Embracing Technology
16:58 Information Security Forum: Mission and Impact
29:12 Practical Advice for Leaders on Cybersecurity
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Today, Steve sits down with supply chain expert Neil Coole, who currently serves as Enterprise Partnership Director at BSI. He emphasizes the need to know your organization’s supply chain story in order to stay secure and protect your brand. He and Steve talk about how regulation can go beyond a checklist and add value for companies.
Key Takeaways:
1 The covid-19 pandemic and recent conflicts have highlighted the vulnerability of today’s supply chains.
2 Standards exist as frameworks to help companies live up to responsibilities set upon them by law or consumers.
3 A harmonized assessment framework can help industries secure their supply chains and save organizations time and money.
Tune in to hear more about:
1 How standards are created and what their purpose is (8:57)
2 Protecting critical infrastructure in the US (14:09)
3 The Supplier Compliance Audit Network, a community of US-based retailers and brand owners who’s created a harmonized assessment framework for its industry (23:23)
Standout Quotes:
1 “The expectation now is on more trust, transparency and also traceability, especially things like tech-enabled traceability. What kind of tech-enabled traceability solutions is that client using to determine where the goods are coming from? What route are they taking? Who's opening up the cargo containers and possibly adulterating goods, stealing in transit, all those other things – that's a real concern today for these organizations who are moving hundreds of thousands of freight containers on an annual basis. It's a real risk that they have to live with. The solutions are there. It's just helping those organizations understand the role that standards, shall we say – a standard is a best-practice framework – can play in helping to reduce, or, in some cases, even mitigate some of those risks.” - Neil Coole
2 “There's opportunities for improvement everywhere, but from a maturity standpoint, we do view parts of the critical infrastructure sectors like energy and finance to be on the more mature end. And then there's a few in the middle that are learning some important lessons. And then there's those who are actively being targeted we read about all the time. They are the ones that I feel would benefit more from some of the guidance and support and information that's available for them to be less of an attractive target.” Neil Coole
3 “So, if you're a single supplier working for the top 10 biggest brands, the top 10 are sending out some form of assessment of you. You're getting that 300-page assessment document, not just from one supplier, you're getting it from all the suppliers. But if those suppliers become part of the same community and they agree to accept a single assessment outcome, no matter who has instigated it, everyone benefits. The supplier benefits – minimizes their disruption, they get to work with more brands in an open and trusted environment – and it just saves that complete disruption and unnecessary costs of delivering an assessment by multiple brands.” - Neil Coole
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Today, Steve speaks with Kailyn Johnson, cyber intelligence and geopolitical risk lead at UK consulting firm Sibylline. Kailyn and Steve discuss the current threat landscape, focusing on areas where cyber and geopolitics overlap, and she offers some practical advice on how to contextualize security for your organization’s C-suite.
Key Takeaways:
1 The dark web is becoming more democratized, opening up the door for low-skilled threat actors to cause harm.
2 Open and frequent communication between security teams and other branches of the organization, in particular those in charge of the budget, is crucial for cyber resilience operations to receive sufficient support.
3 Staying up to date on patching, knowing your supply chains, and understanding how threats to critical infrastructure can affect you, will be key for organizations in 2025.
Tune in to hear more about:
1 How the dark web is becoming more democratized, and what means for businesses
2 Why showing the worth of the cyber team is tricky but critical for long-term success
3 What organizations can do better in 2025
Standout Quotes:
1 “So we're seeing just ransomware continuing to be a consistent risk to business operations, financial risk, reputational risk, security risks, operational risks. But alongside that, we're also then seeing the influx of a lot more low-skilled threat actors having now the capabilities to conduct sophisticated operations with the democratization of the dark web.” - Kailyn Johnson
2 “Showing off the value that these teams have to the people with budget, sometimes might help unlock a bit of that budget. If you're seeing the benefit of those teams, you're more likely to give them the budget that they might need for it, and whether that's internally or sometimes externally, if you've produced really good work, or if you've created all these detections that have helped improve the network security for your organization, how could we maybe publish that, whether it's internally to the stakeholders, or if it's for everyone, so people are seeing, actually, they're doing a really good job.” - Kailyn Johnson
3 “But sometimes you're so focused on the impact of the regulations that you sometimes then forget, actually the processes that we're doing are working. Then should we just maybe let things play out and see how they're going? I think there's always a bit of a worry of, are we always in compliance? And it's good that we have that worry, but it's also sometimes the case of, just keep doing what you're doing, and you've got your compliance teams to tell you when you're not.” - Kailyn Johnson
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Today, Steve is in conversation with Dr. Kate Darling, Research Scientist at the MIT Media Lab and Research Lead at the Boston Dynamics AI Institute. Kate has spent years studying human-robot interaction, and she speaks with Steve about the fascinating impact such interactions can have on us as people, and what that means for businesses trying to incorporate robots and AI into their customer experience.
Key Takeaways:
1. It is natural for humans to project human behavior onto non-humans.
2. Using robots to help humans do their work better is smarter than replacing them.
3. More technical expertise is needed for policymaking to keep pace with new technologies.
Tune in to hear more about:
1. Why humans form emotional connections with robots
2. How a grocery store robot is scaring customers
3. Pitfalls of commercializing robotics
Standout Quotes:
1. “That's part of the reason that we do this, that we create these strong emotional connections, even with non-living things like robots, is because we have this drive, and especially in these emotionally difficult situations, it may even be something that helps people survive. So I don't think it's as black and white as just: we need to prevent this anymore, but it is something that we need to be extremely aware of and acknowledge that it's happening, so that we can address it appropriately where possible.” - Dr. Kate Darling
2. “So I think it's important that we're making the right choices. It's not that technology determines what happens. It really is us as a society choosing to set the right incentives for companies and invest in the right kinds of technology. And I do think that there's much more promise in that path, the path of trying to partner with these technologies and what we're trying to achieve, rather than trying to replace people or recreate something we already have.” - Dr. Kate Darling
3. “We've used most animals like tools and products, and some of them have been our companions, and my prediction for the future is that we're going to do the exact same thing with robots and AI, that most of them will be tools and products and some of them will be companions.” - Dr. Kate Darling
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In this episode, Steve speaks with best-selling author and hypnotist Paul McKenna about something that affects all of us — stress at work. Paul talks about the impact stress can have on workers and gives practical tips to care for yourself and the employees you lead, even in the fast-paced, “always-on” security industry.
Key Takeaways:
1 It’s important to be mindful of signs of stress before it gets to burnout.
2 Mindfulness, hypnosis, and other types of self-care can significantly reduce stress.
3 For long-term success, employers should look to balance output and productivity with their employees’ mental and physical well-being.
Tune in to hear more about:
1 Why we’re more stressed than ever (1:10)
2 How to identify signs that may lead to burnout (3:26)
3 How companies and leaders can support their employees well-being (12:32)
Standout Quotes:
1 “It's right now a massive issue, anxiety, stress, fear, worry, because if you think about it, you turn on the TV, or you open a newspaper, you're under attack. It's the war, it's the virus, it's the economy, it's something or other. And so understandably, post the pandemic, we were out of the biological pandemic, but we're sort of in a psychological pandemic.” - Paul McKenna
2 “ Now the thing is, addiction is about changing your state of mind and body, so drinking, drug taking, gambling, sex, shopping, television and food, particularly sugar food, are the world's drugs of choice. And everybody in the world at some point feels too much stress. They feel overwhelmed, and so they resort to something to change how they feel, some of the things I just mentioned. And in a sense, some people, they form an addiction to their work because they can, you know, forget about everything else that's going on in their life. They might not have to think about their relationship or, you know, some other stress, from their family or something. So they immerse themselves in work.” - Paul McKenna
3 “Years ago, when I started corporate training, one of my colleagues, I asked him, ‘Why is it corporations pay so much money to have their staff trained?’ He said, ‘Well, I can show you,’ because look, they see that ‘days sick' goes down, the productivity goes up. So basically, by staying in the zone of balance – you've got enough output getting things done, versus balance, which is recovery time, in my mind. You get that mix right, then you're going to be more productive in the end.” - Paul McKenna
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Today, Steve sits down with Duncan Wardle, the former head of innovation and creativity at Disney. Duncan talks to Steve about his current work teaching leaders to embrace creativity and inspire innovation in their teams. He suggests practical ways that leaders can create a more collaborative and fun work culture that will lead to more successful outcomes and enhance their teams’ job fulfillment.
Key Takeaways:We’re all born with creativity, and a great leader can unlock it within people who may have lost it along the way. Creativity is the ability to have an idea; innovation is the ability to get that idea done. With AI, we have the opportunity to hand off mundane tasks and give ourselves time to think, be creative, and innovate. Tune in to hear more about:Why it matters to say “yes, and…” instead of “no, because…” The impact of AI on creativity and innovationActions leaders can take to spark more creativity within their organizationsStandout Quotes:“I define creativity as the ability to have an idea, and I think we can all do that every day. I define innovation as the ability to get that done. That's the hard part.” - Duncan Wardle
“As leaders, we have responsibilities, we've got quarterly results, we've got bosses, we've got – but if the first two words out of our mouth are ‘no, because,’ they're the first two words when somebody comes at us with a new idea, they're not coming back in the door again, and they may have genius next week or next-. Just remind ourselves as leaders, we're not green lighting this idea for execution today. We're merely green housing it together, using ‘Yes, and.’ As leaders, if we can use ‘Yes, and’ before ‘No, because’ you can completely and utterly change your culture.” - Duncan Wardle
“Algorithms, and everything that AI will bring to the table, will merge with the human race, creativity, intuition, empathy, imagination, etc, we will merge to become a superhuman race.” - Duncan Wardle
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In this episode, Steve sits down with author and leadership expert Sylvie di Giusto. Sylvie delineates five areas for everyone to consider in order to enhance their emotional intelligence. She and Steve also discuss how self-awareness and authenticity relate to situational awareness, and how improving in these areas can support career mobility.
Key Takeaways:The subconscious takes up 95% of the brain – use that to your advantage to gain the trust of the people you interact with.Situational awareness is more important than one-size-fits-all ideas of “always smiling” or “maintaining eye contact.Your appearance, behavior, communication, digital footprint, and environment all matter for how people see you.
Tune in to hear more about:How the meaning of emotional intelligence in business has changed over the years (01:48)Sylvie di Giusto’s A.B.C.D.E. (Appearance, Behavior, Communication, Digital footprint, Environment) framework (07:50)The four levels of visibility (20:05)
Standout Quotes:“The subconscious mind of a human takes up 95% of your brain. And 95% of your brain is where emotions live, where feelings live, where your gut feelings live. And only 5% of our brain actually transmits data, facts, figures, information. That is where your contracts are, where your proposals are, where all the facts and figures are that you deliver to your clients. [...] So, I always say, why don't you use this to your advantage, that behavior, and actually use the 95% of the brain and instantly imprint that feeling of trust in them and use it to your advantage. And before they buy into your solution, into your technical solution, let them buy into you.” - Sylvie di Giusto“You have to learn to read the moment, [...] and then adjust your behavior and make more intentional choices. I think one of the biggest challenges that we have nowadays, also driven by technology because we are constantly distracted by technology, is that we run on autopilot most of the day. Most of the day, we are so in our habits, in our patterns, that we do things, say things, that we are not even aware of, and they have a macro impact on our relationships. And we have to step back and sometimes turn that autopilot off, read the room, and be more intentional with the tools that we already have.” - Sylvie di Giusto“I think that authenticity means that we all play a role, but different roles, and in those roles, we are true to ourselves. [...] And in all those roles, I promise you, I'm truly authentic. But if I would try to talk with my husband the way I talk with my clients, we wouldn't have made it to 23 years, I promise you. Or if I would treat my clients like I treat my children, or if I look at home like I would on stage, and vice versa. So, yes, we are all authentic in those roles, but I think we have to accept that you just do you, no matter the circumstances – which brings us back to situational awareness – I think it's a lie that this is possible.” - Sylvie di Giusto
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Today, Steve is speaking with Rear Admiral Brian Luther. After more than 30 years in the US Navy and at the Pentagon, Brian is now president and CEO of the insurance firm Navy Mutual. Brian talks about what he learned about leadership in his time commanding an aircraft carrier in the Navy and how he has translated his skills into working in the private sector. He and Steve also discuss how leaders can move from a tactical mindset into a logistical one, and prepare your team for worst case scenarios.
Key Takeaways:There might be differences between generations or people of different cultures, but fundamentally most people want the same things, and basic respect goes a long way.As a leader, don’t get bogged down in tactics. Remember to think about the logistics, so there is a plan B if something goes awry. Technology can be an immensely useful tool, but don’t get overly dependent on it.
Tune in to hear more about:The three stages of leadership (7:46)Conducting business in volatile regions (12:28)How a tabletop drill can reveal important weaknesses in your organization’s crisis response (18:48)
Standout Quotes:“You have to very clearly articulate to the people what you want done. And if it's very specific, you say, ‘I want this done,’ and if it's generic, you say, ‘I want this outcome,’ right? You can't say I want a general outcome when you have something specific in mind, because they're going to go off and do it whatever way you want. But if you're very clear, ‘I want this done this way,’ or ‘I just want this outcome,’ and you decide, delegate, disappear, you'd be amazed at what people can do.” - Brian Luther“If you go there and give them an opportunity to see you as just who you are, and learn them just as they are, you find that there's more in common than people would give credit for. So I would always say, before you go internationally, take some time to learn where you're going and respect the culture that you're going to be operating in.” - Brian Luther“There are tremendous benefits associated with technology, but any strength pushed too far is a weakness [...]. Don't be overreliant on something, and you put all your eggs in that one basket and you lose it, and then you don't have a second or a third option. You should be asking yourself, ‘What if I lose this, what if they figure out a way to foil that?’ Because, remember, we put something out there, and in a strategic competition, there's move-countermove all the time. […] So use it as a tool, but don't be totally dependent on it that if someone takes that tool away from you, your whole organization collapses.” - Brian Luther
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