Episodi
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This episode was recorded live at Playgrounds ‘In Motion’ last September. The panel was made up of Becky Sloan, Sophie Koko Gate and Laura Jayne Hodkins hosted by Hannah Lau-Walker.
The panel discussed making super fun funny work, that looked at the process these brilliant directors undertake to create their unique films. ‘In Motion’ will be coming back in September, and we can’t wait to see you all there !!
Recorded September 2023
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Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Tame Impala Stop Motion Music Video
Blink Studios
Don’t Hug Me I’m scared (Shorts)
Don’t Hug Me I’m scared (Series)
Hayley and Joanna
Hot and Tasty
Strange Beast
DHMIS Creativity
Joe Pelling
Baker Terry
Rick and Morty
Slug Life
Half Wet
Cheese Heads
Trolli Sweets
Nicolas Menard
Bridget Meyne
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In this episode we discuss our 2023 Salary Report with five brilliant women from the industry, unpacking the findings, discussion points, and recommendations.
This episode is full of negotiation tips, thoughts on the impact of the current economic climate, and different points of view of salaries and current rates.
Recorded January 2024
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Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
https://olgawojciechowska.com/
Salary Report 2022
Discussion 2022
Salary Report 2023
Dani Abram
Melissa Bel Gil
Alina Bopele
Catharine Pitt | Form Play
Emma Windsor | Back to Front Studios
Design by women
Addressing Unconscious Bias: E Learning with ScreenSkills
Unconscious Bias Training for all
‘Women who ask for pay rise less successful than men, UK poll reveals’
Dani Abram’s podcast: Retakes ‘Ep.17 Negotiating’
ScreenSkills negotiating course ‘Developing the art of successful negotiation’
Negotiating resources on ScreenSkills
Animation & VFX Rates Guidance for film and TV 2022
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This episode was recorded at the Royal College of Art back in August this summer. The panel was made of Abigail Addison, Sue Loughlin, Emily Jordon-Wilson, Emma Calder, and Stephen McNally who we spoke with after an Industry Day with the 2023 RCA Animation MA students.
We kicked off the panel talking about first jobs and how they led our panellists to what they do today. We also spoke about entering the industry and film festivals, we think this episode is the perfect listen for anyone who’s recently graduated and not sure what the next steps are as well as those still studying and looking to prepare for life after education.
We’d like to thank Carla MacKinnon for inviting us to the RCA and to all the students who shared their work, it was incredible to see such wonderful new talent about too enter the industry.
Recorded August 2023
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Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
https://olgawojciechowska.com/
RCA Animation Programme
https://www.rca.ac.uk/study/programme-finder/animation-ma/
Carla MacKinnon
https://www.rca.ac.uk/more/staff/carla-mackinnon/
Abigail Addison
https://www.instagram.com/abbabaddison/?hl=en
Animate Projects
https://animateprojects.org/
Sue Loughlin
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sue-loughlin-76075152?originalSubdomain=uk
Jelly
https://www.thisisjelly.com/uk
Emily Jordan-Wilson
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-jordan-wilson-69472258
Spindle
https://www.spindle.co/
Emma Calder
https://www.instagram.com/pearly_oyster/
Pearly Oyster
https://www.pearlyoyster.com/
Stephen McNally
https://www.instagram.com/stevmcn/
Blink Ink
https://blinkink.co.uk/our-work/
Blink Industries
https://www.blinkindustries.tv/
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**The original episode was mistakenly deleted. This is the same episode just reuploaded**
In this episode, we’ll hear from the wonderful Laina Deene and Harriet Gillian talking about funding applications. Here they take us through what went into their applications for the FLAMIN Animation Fund and the BFI Short Form Animation Fund. We hope this sheds light on applying for funding and gets you all going after some of the brilliant funds out there !!
Recorded April 2023
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Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Laina Deene
Kingston University Illustration & Animation BA (Hons)
FLAMIN Animation: Deadline for current applications 22nd May 2023
‘Tender Wasteland’ excerpt
Harriet Gillian
Hannah Jacobs
Zoe Muslim
Your Mountain is Waiting
BFI Short Form Animation Fund
Hannah Lau-Walker
Matt Lloyd
Film London
Film London Short School
Strange Beast
Vimeo Staff Picks
Annecy
BAFTA
Overlap
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Our last episode in season one of the ‘She Drew That Podcast’ is a discussion of our 2022 Salary Report. We sat down with five incredible women from the industry about our salary report, its findings and our recommendations.
We thought it might be helpful to hear some thoughts from people in the industry about our salary report, so we spoke with Catharine Pitt co founder of Form Play, senior freelance producer Melissa Bel Gil, 2D TV Animator Dani Abram, 2D Commercial Animator Maki Yoshikura, and 3D TV & Film Character Animator Alina Bopele.
Listen to them unpack the Animation & VFX rates guidance card, discuss what’s happening with rates in the industry right now and hear some brilliant advice.
We think it’s an important listen for everyone in the industry and we’d love to hear your thoughts !!
Recorded January 2023
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Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
https://olgawojciechowska.com/
Salary Report
Catharine Pitt
Melissa Bel Gil
Dani Abram
Maki Yoshikura
Alina Bopele
Form Play
Animation & VFX Rates Guidance for film and TV 2022
Salty Animators Salary Collection
Aging in Animation
Blair Enns
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After our episode on 2D Directors, Sheetal Thankey and Hannah Jacobs joined SDT coordinator, Hannah Lau-Walker for a Q&A. In this episode, they chat about collaborating, what it means to be signed, and the difference between starting out as a director and when you get into those bigger projects.
Recorded January 2023
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SHOW NOTES
Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
https://olgawojciechowska.com/
Sheetal Thankey
Becoming an Artist: Yayoi Kusama | TATE Kids
Hannah Jacobs
Your Mountain is Waiting
Harriet Gillian
Talk to you by Anjana Vasan: Sheetal’s music video
Katy Wang
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In this episode, we’ll hear from the brilliant directors Sheetal Thankey and Hannah Jacobs. They chat about their early careers, imposter syndrome, and how lovely collaboration can be. It’s truly a joy to hear them chat openly about the ups and downs of directing and creating your own films, so give it a listen now !!
Recorded February 2022
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Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Cover design by Hannah Jacobs
Sheetal Thankey
Hannah Jacobs
Strange Beast
Spirited Away
The Triplets of Belleville
Adobe Animate (Flash)
Central St. Martins Character Animation
University of Brighton, Illustration BA (Hons)
It’s Nice That
Amazing World of Gumball
Punky
Nexus Studio
Headspace
‘Talk to you’ Music Video directed by Sheetal Thankey
Campbell Hartley
Your Mountain is Waiting
Harriet Gillian
Victoria Jardine
Anna Ginsburg
TED ED
School of Life
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After our episode on Studio Founders, Kathrin Steinbacher, half of Studio Desk and Marie-Margaux Scanatovits, CD and co founder of Moth Studio join SDT coordinator, Hannah Lau-Walker for a Q&A. They chat in this episode about the organic nature of creating a studio, the importance of a good accountant and advice for graduates.
Recorded December 2022
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SHOW NOTES
Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
https://olgawojciechowska.com/
Marie-Margaux Scanatovits
Moth Studio
Moth Studio Instagram
Daniel Chester
Dave Prosser
Kathrin Steinbacher
Kathrin Steinbacher Instagram
Studio Desk
Studio Desk Instagram
Emily Downe
Animade
Flatten the Curve
Part 01
Part 02
Part 03
Set up a limited company step by step
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In this episode, we’ll hear from the wonderful Kathrin Steinbacher, half of Studio Desk, and the brilliant Marie-Margaux Scanatovits, CD and co-founder of Moth Studio. Here they chat about starting their careers, how things have changed and what it has been like setting up their own studios.
Recorded November 2021
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SHOW NOTES
Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Marie-Margaux Scanatovits
Moth Studio
Kathrin Steinbacher
Studio Desk
Kingston University
Dave Prosser
Daniel Chester
Emily Downe
Royal College of Art
In her Boots – Kathrin Steinbacher Final Film
Martina Bramkamp
Stefan Sagmeister
UCA Canterbury
School of life
Renata Garcia
Jennifer Zheng
Jocie Juritz
Lizzy Hobbs
Fred Griffiths
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After our episode on Community Building, Hayley Akins and Knifeson Yu join She Drew That founder, Hannah Lau-Walker for a Q&A. They chat about what they’ve been up to in the last year and answer some audience questions.
September 2022
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SHOW NOTES
Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Knifeson Yu
Onion Ghost HK
Hayley Akins
Motion Hatch Instagram
Motion Hatch Wesbite
Motion Hatch YouTube Channel
Hannah Lau-Walker
Onion Ghost Live Event
Motion Hatch Youtube Channel
Motion Hatch Podcast
Motion Hatch Rocket Fuel Roadmap
Circle Social Media
Slack
Discord
Notion
She Drew That Mentoring
Motion Hatch Facebook
Social Media Guide
Joe Walker
Joe Walker in LinkedIn Posts
LinkedIn
#buildinpublic
Manchester Animation Festival
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In our ninth episode, we will hear from the wonderful founder and CEO of Motion Hatch, Hayley Akins, and the brilliant Knifeson Yu, founder of Onion Ghost. This month they’ll be chatting about community building, and how they originate and grow.
Recorded September 2021. Show Notes below.
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SHOW NOTES
Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Cover art designed by Knifeson Yu
Hayley Akins
Knifeson Yu
Onion Ghost HK
Motion Hatch
Motion Hatch Instagram
Motion Hatch YouTube
Client Quest
Freelance Contract Bundle
Master Mind
Panimation
Discord
Clubhouse
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After our episode on Producers and Production Managers, Hanae Seida and Yino Huan join She Drew That founder, Hannah Lau-Walker for a Q&A. They cover questions sent in by our audience, including one of the longest “quick fire” rounds known to podcasts.
August 2022
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SHOW NOTES
Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Cover art designed by Yino Huan
Hanae Seida
Yino Huan
World time Buddy App
The Line
Michela Dede; Production assistant at The Line
Golden Wolf
Google Sheets
Shotgun
F Track
Toon Boom
Lisa A.Smith; Head of Development at The Line
Hatsune Miku; Japanese popstar vocaloid
Gorillaz
APA Masterclass
Screenskills
Animation Workshop; Animation Production Manager Course
Escape Studios; Producing for VFX
National Film and Television School; Producing Masters
Bournemouth University; Production Management Masters
Double Plus Productions
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In our seventh episode, we will hear from the incredible Yino Huan, freelance animator turn Production Manager and the amazing human that is Hanae Seida, Head of Production at The Line. Here they chat about getting into production and the different sides of producing in the animation industry.
Recorded October 2021. Show Notes below.
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SHOW NOTES
Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Cover art designed by Yino Huan
Yino Huan
Hanae Seida
The Line
Golden Wolf
Double Plus
The Illusionist
Wes Louis
Sam Taylor
James Duveen
Gobelins
Animation workshop Production course
Animation workshop Production Management course
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After our two part episode on freelance animators with Eloise Garlick and Hannah Lau-Walker, they return for a Q&A to answer your questions. In this episode, they chat about online courses, ways to keep engaged in the industry, and most importantly learning how to post gifs on Slack.
Recorded June 2022
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SHOW NOTES
Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Cover art designed by Eloise Garlick
Eloise Garlick
Hannah Lau-Walker
Kingston University: Illustration Animation BA (Hons)
Bournemouth University:
Computer Animation & Art Design
Computer Animation & Technical Arts
RCA (Royal College of Art) Animation MA
National Film and Television School Directing Animation MA
Cabeza Patata School
Frame by Frame Animation in Photoshop an online course by Jocie Juritz
Mograph Mentor: Henrique Barone class
School of Motion
Animation for Anyone by Alex Grigg
Motion Hatch
How to make passive income as a motion designer
How to turn your Motion Design skills into smart income with YouTube
Make money with animated gifs
How to start a side-hustle as a motion designer
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This is part one of a two part episode, where junior animator Eloise Garlick chats with senior animator Hannah Lau-Walker. Here they talk about starting out as 2D freelancers and animation software.
Recorded June 2021. Show Notes below.
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SHOW NOTES
Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Hannah Lau-Walker
Eloise Garlick
Central St Martins Master Course (nine month course no longer exists)
University of East London, BA Animation and Illustration
Strange Beast
The Line
Maki Yoshikura
TV Paint
ToonBoom
Adobe Animate
Adobe Photoshop
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This is part one of a two part episode, where junior animator Eloise Garlick chats with senior animator Hannah Lau-Walker. Here they discuss finishing university and starting out a freelancer in the animation industry.
Recorded June 2021. Show Notes below.
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SHOW NOTES
Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Cover art designed by Eloise Garlick
Eloise Garlick
Hannah Lau-Walker
Central St Martins Master Course (nine month course no longer exists)
University of East London, BA Animation and Illustration
Strange Beast
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After our two part episode on funding in animation, Helen Brunsdon, and Harriet Gillian join, She Drew That founder, Hannah Lau-Walker for a Q&A; where they cover questions sent in by our audience. This episode touches upon funding resources, distribution, and a lot more, we hope it’s helpful and enjoyable !!
Recorded March 2022
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Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Cover art designed by Harriet Gillian
Helen Brunsdon
Harriet Gillian
Your Mountain is Waiting
BFI Fund
Strange Beast
Hannah Jacobs
Arts Council Funds
Arts Council: Developing your creative practice fund
Short School Masterclasses 2021
BFI Network Weekender
Animated Women UK
Animation UK
Screen Alliance UK
Zoe Muslim
Miyu Distribution
Animation Festivals
Short of the Week - Be Everywhere At Once
British Council Travel Support
British Animation Awards
Film freeway
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This is part two of a two part episode, where the incredible producer Helen Brunsdon, director of the BAA's, chats with wonderful writer Harriet Gillian. If you've not yet listened to part one, please go ahead and check it out now !!
In this episode, Helen and Harriet discuss funding within the animation industry and spotting opportunities.
Show Notes below !!
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Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Helen Brunsdon
Harriet Gillian
London Film Festival
British Council Short film travel grants
Chris Shepard
Aardman
Children’s Media Conference
Animation UK
Kate O’Connor
Screen Skills
Trainee Finder for Animation
Angry Kid
Morph
Locksmith
Blue Zoo
Wild Seed Studio
Miles Bullough
Girls in film
Strange beast
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This is part one of a two part episode, where the incredible producer Helen Brunsdon, director of the BAA's, chats with wonderful writer Harriet Gillian. Here they discuss funding within the animation industry and the importance of finding the right team.
Show Notes below !!
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SHOW NOTES
Music designed by Olga Wojciechowska
Cover art designed by Harriet Gillian
Helen Brunsdon
Farnham Animation
British Animation Awards
Harriet Gillian
Bristol UWE
Aardman
Mr. Bean – Tiger Aspects
Hannah Jacobs
BFI Funding
BFI Funding Finder
Wonky Animation
Show me the animation
Greg McCleod
Animation Alliance UK
Wellcome Trust
Jerwood Arts Fund
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She Drew that is a London-based animation community focused on the promotion, support, and development of women in the animation industry. We're announcing the release of our first ever podcast, which will be released monthly.
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