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The second half of our discussion on Winter, sixty seconds of Mark E. Smith mumbling about drinking while âdrowning in a sea of Boddingtonsâ, and over a hundred minutes of discussion on things that are decidedly not the Fall.
SCENARIO: A Fall superfan discovers a brand new podcast about their favorite band. Better yet, thereâs two whole episodes and over THREE HOURS of discussion on their favorite song, Winter from the 1981 masterpiece Hex Enduction Hour. They subscribe, pop open their podcatcher and are utterly baffled by sound collages, lengthy descriptions of a deranged Seinfeld episode that sound like a fever dream, and stories about blacking out from drinking in Buffalo in the mid 00âs. No, sir, this isnât your grandmotherâs Fall podcast (though I heard thatâs pretty good, too), this is Two Librans; the intersection of comics, astrology, Patti Smithâs poetry and The Fall. Only listen to this once a day. Your brain might be destroyed!
Our original plan for last week was to cover the entirety of the two-part song Winter, but like all good trains, it got derailed. Tom joked before that recording that we could discuss Winter 2 the following week, but that is exactly what happened. The boys wrap up the discussion with the help of some very lonely and bored men who loitered on the defunct Annotated Fall when it was still a going concern, and also talk about all sorts of other things. This one is a hoot, and we laughed at ourselves quite a bit while editing. Radical Self-Love, I think thatâs what they call it.
MARK E. SMITH LIKES A BEER AND IS NOT ASHAMED
This week weâre treated to a damn-near incomprehensible monologue by our spiritual leader MES, where he proffers such invaluable truths as âYou cannot be an alcoholic if you have your drink in the openâ. Actually thatâs about the only wisdom he provides, the rest is just typical kvetching about other bands and the media. And we wouldnât have it any other way. 60 seconds of pure gold.
ALSO COVERED
Romanâs one-night-long stoner phase
Tomâs view at TCAF, 2017
Patti Smith staying relevant with youth culture
Emmanuel Macron staying relevant with youth culture
Romanâs comic about painting with children which was enjoyed by the stingy scum of Antwerp
Best museum for day drinking in Paris
Meeting Public Figures on Facebook Marketplace
The original crop from a couple years ago:
There were so many that at a certain point Roman just started copy-pasting the text instead of screenshotting:
Recent updates:
David Hockney sliding into Romanâs dadâs DMs đ
Cow Tools
Romanâs first memory
Did Kramer impregnate a secondary character?
Roman mayâve misremembered a few things, but other people of the internet are on the same page:
Listeners, what do you think?
Also, was William Blake a nudist?
John âthe Baptistâ Cale
And once again, Brain Ticket
More Radical Self-Love
As always, links to Tom and Romansâs personal Substacks.
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A thorough discussion on a classic track(s) from Hex Enduction Hour, the most cantankerous and irresponsible interview to ever appear on Australian childrenâs television, and some Dangerous Truths from a Special Guest Host!
Weâre closing out 2024 with a BANG, covering an absolute classic: Winter (Hostel-Maxi) from 1981âs Hex Enduction Hour. We discuss why the song was split in two, dissect the (many) lyrics, and pull some demented theories from the bottomless depths of the worldâs most useless, defunct website, The Annotated Fall, all with newfound swagger on the mic and crispy-clean audio quality. Around halfway through our discussion we encounter a shocking revelation, which will continue into Episode 5 next week!
NEW YEAR NEW HOST
2024 was the year our humble podcast splashed out of the womb, and as a thank you for sticking with us this far, we also had on our first Mystery Guest Host, who delivers some Dangerous Truths that might rip you out of your comfort zone and question the values you hold so dear. We also veer into legthy discussions of the The Fallâs responsibilty for the entirity of modern Icelandic music, problematic terms for German prog music, and the live-action Disney remakes of their classic animated films.
MARK VS. MARC
This weekâs interview is from the Australian program(me) âSoundsâ, hosted by the genuinely charming Donnie Sutherland. His charm is countered by two men who had gotten into a literal fistfight the evening before; MES and Marc âHappy Fall Guitaristâ Riley. Why they decided to have this duo on exclusively for the interview after Marc gave Mark a well-deserved, nasty shiner (poorly hidden by heavy makeup) is anyoneâs guess, but Donnie powers through the interview like a true pro and wins them over by the end. Itâs capped by him recommending Hex Enduction Hour to Australiaâs youth, which is not only hilarious but socially irresponsible.
ALSO COVERED
The only way the French know how to pay tribute
Educating Zoomers
God-teir song-ending fake-outs
âThe book was better!â and similar tropes
PLUGS AND FALSE PROMISES
Roman made some very generous promises about sweepstakes prizes this week, and to raise money heâs selling a beautiful new, branded ballcap on his award-winning Substack, DADA issues.
And please smash a like, subscribe and a ding-ding-ding for Tomâs personal Substack, which he promises will be updated soon with âcontentâ.
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One of the Fallâs weirder 90âs bangers, Jerry Garcia on rap, Chester Brown on hair, and, of course, astrology (for Libras only, the rest of you turn away now).
Ho ho ho, and Merry Motherloving Christmas to our our Christian listeners out there. Welcome back to Episode 3 of our mighty podcast, recorded well before Thanksgiving, so donât expect any holiday gift guides for the Fall fans in your life. Instead, weâre finally getting the hang of speaking into microphones, and this is the first episode we can say with authority is âokayâ. Well, mostly, aside from Romanâs audio still being a bit lacking. We promise the next episode will sound like a Steely Dan album; crystal-clear dogshit.
This week, weâre covering a pretty obscure track (The Birmingham School of Business School) from an album most folks forget existed (Code: Selfish).
Wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah⊠wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah
We discuss the âcreative accountingâ that inspired the song, its rather unfocused lyrics and the album Code: Selfish that rarely left our collective Case Logic CD briefcase. And, true to our brand, we discuss what it was like to rent video tapes in Russia, Chester Brownâs hot new look, and a bunch of other enlightening topics.
MARK ON TAPE
The âinterviewâ this week is really just Mark E. Smith pontificating about whatâs on his mind that day. According to the YouTube title, this includes âMusic, Civil Rights and John Lennonâ, and mumbles about six words in on each of these subjects.
ALSO COVERED
A recitation of River Cuomoâs unfortunate fan letter to cartoonist Joe Matt
Pascal Le Grasâs Fall covers
Markâs graphic design skills firing on all cylinders on this record
Chester Brownâs Coiffurial Style Corner
Morrisseyâs sexual accomplishment
âAt this, Eliza and Ezra rolled together into one giggling snowball of full-figured copulation, screaming and shouting as they playfully bit and pulled at each other in a dangerous and clamorous rollercoaster coil of sexually violent rotation with Elizaâs breasts barrel-rolled across Ezraâs howling mouth and the pained frenzy of his bulbous salutation extenuating his excitement as it whacked and smacked its way into every muscle of Elizaâs body except for the otherwise central zone.â
PS.
Roman drops merch, and a bunch of dubious discountsâŠ
âŠand Tom discovers Japan.
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Welcome back to the Two Librans, the only podcast that is brave enough to criticize the French and their lacivious ways. This week we are covering our namesake, âTwo Libransâ, from the 2000 album The Unutterable.
Roman decided to shrink himself down to record this episode from inside a toilet bowl, so the audio quality on his end is rather echoey and thereâs a bit of clipping in one portion. We sincerely apologize and have since gotten that sorted. The next one is better, and the one after is even better than that.
With our new name, we tap into our âLibra Moodsâ, and discuss all sorts of non-Fall subject matter. This includes a lengthy discussion on the wildly unhinged Russian version of Wheel of Fortune, Field of Wonder. Strap on in.
INTERVIEW
This weekâs interview takes place on the infamous âRed Sofaâ with Lauren Laverne, who tries to make things cheeky and fun but is swatted down by a particularly pissy MES. The audience in the background is made up of children who seem bored and confused. We forgot theyâre even there until they chuckle at something Mark says over three minutes in. A great time was had by all.
ALSO COVERED
Funereal disrespect
Mark E. Smithâs BEE MOVIE prophecy
âChimps are funny.â Jerry gives us a glimpse at his manuscripts from the Library of Congress
Hugo Remastered
The Russian TV intro animation that terrified Roman as a child
The Field of Wonders, everyone!
The only group that captured the true essence of The Fall
Romanâs animated take on the Russian Field of Fortune and other traumatic TV memories
PS. Donât forget to subscribe to Romanâs award-winning personal substack, DADA issues.
P.P.S Donât forget to subscribe to Tomâs non-award-winning but still pretty funny personal substack, the beautifully named Tom Van Deusen's Blog.
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Welcome to the first episode of the Paintwork Two Librans podcast hosted by two cartoonists of moderate renown, Roman Muradov and Tom Van Deusen. Each week, we attempt to provide informed commentary on one song by The Fall, but inevitably get derailed and talk about highly unrelated things. So, if you are not a Fall fan, you are perhaps more likely to enjoy this, than if you are.
LIVE MIXING
On our first episode, we figure out a better name for the show live on air once it's revealed that it's one of the hosts' Very Special Day, so please ignore when we call the podcast âPaintworkâ, that is no longer accurate.
Fittingly, we start off with âPaintworkâ, from the seminal 1985 album This Nation's Saving Grace. With the benefit of hindsight and several more episodes in the can, we can say with confidence that this is the most focused coverage of a song we ever did or will ever do, so strap in.
Also each week, we listen to an interview with the very cantankerous Mark E.Smith, and for the first week, we picked the classic 1989 clip "Mark E Smith German TV Interview 1989". Our favorite little imp was in a pretty feisty mood for this one, and the format, wardrobes, and vibes are all deliciously off the charts.
ALSO COVERED
Sister paintings
Fan numbering
Romanâs Google search result success
Fellow Fall fan and friend of the pod Liam Barrett
German Singer / Songwriter / Sensation Phillip Boa
Sad Bachelor Meals
Please make sure to tell your friends, family and coworkers to listen up and learn a thing or two about a band they've never heard of and probably wouldnât like. Ring the bell, smash subscribe and stay tuned for next week's episode.
PS. Donât forget to subscribe to Romanâs award-winning personal substack, DADA issues.
P.P.S Donât forget to subscribe to Tomâs non-award-winning but still pretty funny personal substack, Tom Van Deusen Land.
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twolibrans.substack.com