Mary "Badass" Anderson an AT Winter SOBO in the 80s and Hiking the National Scenic Trails as an Older Solo Female

15 Jul · Backpacker Radio

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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Helinox, we are joined by Mary "Badass" Anderson. Never has a trail name been more fitting, Mary is the most badass hiker you've likely never heard of. With nearly 19,000 miles under her feet spanning six decades, with her first thru-hike taking place in 1981, Mary has not slowed down with her adventurous ways, as she swung by the studio on her to the Pacific Northwest Trail. Some of the highlights from today's interview include a wild winter SOBO thru-hike of the AT in 1985, just a handful of months after a major back surgery where her doctor told her to give up hiking. She followed her AT SOBO winter hike by immediately hopping over to the PCT, where she battled even more snow, and killed and ate a rattlesnake. Other feats include hiking all of the 4,000 footers in New England with her young son in the 90s, completing the CDT after hitting a new low in 2020, and now she's on a quest to finish all of the National Scenic Trails, with only a couple remaining. In short, Mary's story is one of a kind, you will enjoy today's chat.

We wrap the show with a last call for applications for The Trek's new full-time role, a pair of beloved trail angels close their doors after 17 years serving PCT hikers, what music we would listen to on the way to rescue our significant others from a hostage situation, the triple crown of onomatopoeias, and Chaunce is very afraid of grizzlies.

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Interview with Mary “Badass” Anderson

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Time stamps & Questions

00:04:40 - Reminders: Apply for the Trek’s full-time role! Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and send us your recommendations for a hiker meetup this fall in NYC.

00:10:34 - Introducing Mary

00:11:40 - How’d you get your trail name?

00:13:14 - How did you initially get started long distance backpacking?

00:15:22 - How did you prepare for backpacking in the 80s?

00:21:05 - What does your baseweight look like today?

00:23:47 - What was the AT like in the 80s?

00:26:56 - Did the AT feel easy compared to the Long Trail?

00:29:02 - What resources did you have for navigation?

00:32:38 - What were your resupplies like?

00:34:00 - Tell us about your back injury and being told never to hike again

00:38:10 - Where does your toughness come from?

00:39:00 - How much of a physical struggle was the AT southbound in winter?

00:40:46 - Where did you experience the worst weather?

00:41:50 - Did you think it might have been a bad idea?

00:45:30 - What did your winter pack and gear look like?

00:49:39 - How did you keep on the trail?

00:50:45 - What about backpacking do you enjoy?

00:52:20 - Did people know what you were doing?

00:54:08 - How did you afford hiking then and now?

00:56:12 - What trail recipes do you make?

00:57:18 - What did it feel like to get to Springer and then start the PCT?

01:02:09 - What was your experience on the PCT like?

01:04:23 - Tell us about your rattlesnake encounter

01:07:00 - Discussion about fear and wildlife encounters

01:10:30 - Did you encounter other thru-hikers on the PCT in 1986?

01:11:10 - How did you enjoy the PCT relative to the AT?

01:14:00 - What was the scariest moment of your backpacking career?

01:17:05 - Tell us about the hiking you did with your son

01:19:55 - Do you have advice for getting your kids outside?

01:21:15 - What was it like hiking the Long Trail with your 8 year old?

01:22:30 - How have you noticed the concept of gender changing in the backcountry?

01:24:08 - Tell us about a bear paying for your cross country road trip

01:26:36 - How did you get back into long distance thru-hiking?

01:29:22 - When did you switch from map and compass to apps?

01:31:32 - Do you long for hikes from decades ago?

01:35:55 - How was the southern half of the CDT in 2020?

01:37:42 - How was your mental state?

01:42:10 - Tell us about staying with people on the Ice Age Trail

01:44:28 - Tell us about the northern half of the CDT

01:49:55 - Tell us about your Vermont bike trip

01:54:16 - Discussion about the role of the internet

01:55:40 - Discussion about the Catamount Cross Country Ski Trail

01:58:50 - How was the Connecticut River Source to Sea Paddle?

02:06:05 - Tell us about the New England Trail

02:10:08 - Discussion about the Natchez Trace Trail

02:12:00 - Discussion about the Potomoc Heritage Trail

02:17:40 - Anything else to share about the Arizona Trail?

02:24:00 - What’s next?

Segments

Trek Propaganda:

17 Years, 8,000 Hikers: Trail Angels Scout and Frodo Retire from PCT Hosting by Arielle Nardizzi Professor: The Strategy That’s Helped Me Afford 6 Years, 15K Miles of Thru-Hiking (Jobs, Budgeting Tips, and More) by Carl Stanfield

QOTD: Your wife has been kidnapped and is being held in a location 30 minutes away. You’re driving to rescue her. It’s a warm night and your windows are down. Do you listen to music on the drive there, yes or no?

Triple Crown of onomatopoeias

Power Ranking: Animals You Want to Encounter on Trail

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Tara Dower on Her Appalachian Trail FKT, Falling 200+ Times, and Her Crew
4 Nov· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we're joined by Tara Dower, the new holder of overall Fastest Known Time on the Appalachian Trail. Tara gives us the low down on every aspect of her recent record-breaking trek, including how she fell wildly behind pace after the first two states, her nutrition, her sleep habits (or lack thereof), how vital her crew was in her success, the criticism she's faced for "hiking too fast", running a 100-mile race just a few weeks prior to the attempt, and much more. Tara also goes into more depth on her backpacking and FKT background and we subject her to a pair of brutally awkward fornicate, marry, kill questions. Fun times all around. We wrap the show with our triple crown of guilty pleasure songs, a stupid thing of the week (Zach hurts himself again), and the most unrealistic thing we thought we could be when we were kids.
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Interview with Tara “Candy Mama” Dower
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Time stamps & Questions

00:05:55 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content, join us in Denver on December 7th and apply to be a 2025 blogger!

00:07:55 - Introducing Tara

00:09:29 - Are you still recovering?

00:10:45 - What mantras did you have?

00:13:00 - What was your origin story in the outdoors?

00:17:12 - When did you decide to pursue the Mountains to Sea Trail FKT?

00:19:00 - Did you impress yourself at that moment?

00:21:30 - Tell us about getting off the AT because of anxiety

00:23:05 - How do you manage anxiety during an FKT attempt?

00:24:25 - Were you tough growing up?

00:26:45 - What inspired you to want to continue pursuing FKTs?

00:29:55 - Tell us about the John Muir Trail

00:31:20 - What part of running do you dislike the most?

00:32:30 - Tell us about the Benton MacKaye Trail FKT

00:34:40 - Tell us about the Colorado Trail FKT

00:36:20 - Discussion about support classifications

00:40:25 - How do you deal with critics?

00:44:30 - How did the Colorado Trail change your outlook on future FKTs?

00:46:00 - When did you decide to go after the AT FKT?

00:48:38 - Did you initially plan to beat the overall record?

00:50:08 - Were you intimidated by others who tried and failed to beat the record?

00:51:30 - Did you notice a transition in social media as you were running?

00:55:18 - Why did your anxiety influence which direction you went?

00:57:20 - How long before you started was the Hard Rock?

01:00:00 - What was it like going through Mahoosuc Notch at FKT pace?

01:01:44 - Tell us about being behind pace at first

01:05:27 - How did your crew chief motivate you?

01:07:03 - Did you ever disagree about decisions?

01:08:00 - How much of a trail was solo or with a pacer?

01:09:50 - What was your adjustment like after the FKT?

01:12:45 - How has your nutrition changed over the years?

01:18:55 - Did you have any near injuries?

01:19:40 - Can you pinpoint a low moment?

01:23:30 - Did you hallucinate?

01:26:45 - Tell us about your average mileage and sleep during the FKT

01:30:40 - Is Rascal’s position a paid position?

01:31:34 - Did you have any paid sponsorship during this run?

01:32:26 - When did you know you had it?

01:35:02 - Did you conceptualize how big of a deal it was going to be?

01:36:35 - Tell us about raising money for Girls on the Run

01:38:20 - Fuck Marry Kill: thru-hiking, FKTs, ultraracing

01:39:31 - Fuck Marry Kill: Outside Magazine, Washington Post, The Trek

01:40:34 - Kumo Question: What’s something you’ve always wanted to try but haven’t had the courage to do yet?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Tara Dower Sets Overall Fastest Known Time on Appalachian Trail by Kelly Floro

QOTD: What is the most unrealistic thing you thought you could be when you were a kid?

Stupid Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of guilty pleasure songs

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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The Real Hiking Viking & Lt. Cookoo Bird on Bikepacking Across Iceland, Patagonia, and the Ragbrai
28 Okt· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Jabba and Lt Cookoo for another BPR classic. This one, in expected fashion, is all over the map. We start by getting a brief update of what Cookoo has been up to since his last appearance on the show followed by a more detailed update from Jabba, primarily about a once-in-a-lifetime bikepacking trip through Iceland, a trip that nearly robbed his soul in the best and worst way possible. We then dive into a QA format, including the top advice they'd give to themselves before their first backpacking trip, their favorite treks that take one month or less, the best stories from the trails they've hiked together, the inevitable point at which they butt heads and much more.

The boys stick around for segments, which is also predictably weird. We provide our wiping techniques in alarming detail, the triple crown of things a dentist can say but not a gynecologist, and Viking gives Chaunce wedding advice.

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Jabba's Instagram Cookoo's Instagram Backpacker Radio #194 | Bruce “Lt. Cookoo Bird” Lynn on the Sierra High Route, Wind River High Route, Hayduke, Biking Across the Country, and More
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:45 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content, join us in Denver on December 7th and apply to be a 2025 blogger!

00:07:47 - Introducing Jabba & Lt. Cookoo Bird

00:09:30 - Is Jabba still sober?

00:11:35 - Zach & Jabba’s fantasy football punishments

00:14:50 - What adventures has Cookoo done in 2024?

00:18:50 - Cookoo’s self-arresting technique

00:20:15 - Cuckoo on the Teton Crest Trail

00:21:54 - Cookoo’s mountaineering

00:23:19 - What adventures has Jabba done in 2024?

00:28:20 - Why don’t comfier bike seats exist?

00:33:30 - Jabba hiking the other half of the CDT

00:39:01 - Jabba’s Ragbrai trip

00:47:20 - Jabba’s Iceland trip introduction

00:50:30 - Iceland route description

00:52:54 - Jabba’s (lack of) trip preparation

00:59:00 - How did you get your bike to Iceland?

01:00:00 - Iceland’s singletrack trail difficulty

01:04:00 - Jabba’s mindset while biking

01:06:15 - End of Day 1

01:08:55 - Day 2

01:12:38 - How much were you walking your bike versus riding your bike?

01:16:07 - Is it Type 2 fun?

01:19:45 - End of Day 2

01:24:20 - Discussion about hiking in sand

01:31:05 - Going back to get the AirPods

01:34:35 - Day 3

01:42:49 - What would you do differently if you did this trip again?

01:45:00 - Getting to the end location of Day 3

01:49:35 - Day 5

01:58:24 - End of Day 5

02:02:50 - Have you been in contact with Chris since the trip?

02:04:30 - What’s the best one month or shorter hike you’ve ever done?

02:13:31 - If you could go back in time to your first thru-hike, what would you do differently?

02:16:46 - How do you figure out footwear faster?

02:22:16 - What is your best story about the other story?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: “I Just Had To Skip So Many Miles”: How 2024 PCT Thru-Hikers Are Adapting to Fires and Trail Closures by James Townsend

QOTD: Does your butt stay on the toilet seat when you wipe?

Triple Crown of things a dentist can say, but not a gynecologist

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Northville Placid Trail: 138 miles Through New York’s Adirondack Park
21 Okt· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to by LMNT, we are breaking down our recent hike of the Northville Placid Trail. Chaunce, Elise, and yours truly recently set out south from Lake Placid to trek as much of the trail as we could in a 5-day period. Spoiler alert- I was forced off trail first, Chaunce did the full thing, Elise split the difference between the two of us.

We give you a day by day breakdown of our trek, including a not so fun first day, a family fight on day two featuring a midday meltdown, our favorite moments from the trail (like an epic campsite off Long Lake) and much more. We also give you the rough and dirty on the NPT, including the distance, elevation gain, resupply options, terrain, water, etc yatta yatta.

We wrap the show with the triple crown of John Travolta movies, whether we'd prefer the perfect stick or the perfect rock, and a one-minute gear review!

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Panel with Zach, Chaunce, and Elise
Chaunce's Instagram Badger's Instagram Elise's Instagram
Time stamps & Questions

00:05:00 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content, join us in Denver on December 7th and apply to be a 2025 blogger!

00:09:40 - Introducing the NPT Panel

00:11:30 - Northville Placid Trail basics

00:13:30 - Hiking direction

00:15:05 - Day 1 of hiking

00:27:00 - Night 1

00:32:55 - Bugs, darkness, and mileage

00:42:30 - Day 2

00:47:45 - The family fight

00:58:00 - Night 2

01:02:15 - Day 3

01:06:40 - Zach’s incident

01:11:05 - Odds games

01:22:02 - Zach’s second incident

01:23:40 - Getting off trail

01:27:05 - Night 3

01:32:13 - Day 4

01:51:25 - Zach’s day 4

01:54:00 - Day 5

01:59:55 - Elise’s weird encounters

02:08:20 - Zach’s day 5

02:10:45 - Stay Salty: If you could turn any everyday activity into an Olympic sport, what would you win gold in?

Segments

QOTD: Would you rather find the perfect stick or the perfect rock?

Triple Crown of John Travolta Movies

One Minute Gear Reviews

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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James Appleton on Hiking and Peakbagging in the Adirondacks
14 Okt· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by James Appleton. James is a walking encyclopedia on all things Adirondacks, hosting a podcast dedicated to the park, having authored a book about its lore, and he serves as a hiking guide throughout the region. James gives us the rundown on these rugged 46ers, including superlatives like his favorite, the most underrated, the most overrated, and the best for beginners. He also provides a primer on the Northville-Placid Trail, shares the best and worst times to experience the park, and offers an overview of the Lake Placid 9’er, a challenge he created. James also gives us the lowdown of how awkward it is to be on a film set during a sex scene.

We wrap up the show with the news of Hurricane Helene's historic destruction throughout the southern Appalachias, and how people can contribute to the relief and recovery efforts, the triple crown of commercials (including how our editor's dad is the commercial GOAT), whether you'd rather find cockroaches or a body in your attic, and the full rundown of going to Buffalo for the MNF Bills game.

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Time stamps & Questions

00:06:15 - Reminders: Join us in Denver on December 7th! Apply to be a 2025 blogger and support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:12:05 - Introducing James

00:12:53 - What was your introduction to the outdoors?

00:15:27 - What are the hot spots in Lake Placid?

00:18:05 - Tell us about the Blue Line Bakery

00:20:00 - Tell us about working in the film industry

00:23:00 - What’s the coolest movie you’ve worked on?

00:24:30 - Tell us about working on a sex scene

00:27:25 - Is it difficult to hike peaks with a lot of muscle on your upper body?

00:31:30 - Discussion about Adirondack hiking culture

00:36:20 - What are the most common 46ers to start off with?

00:38:35 - Do you need map and compass skills?

00:40:31 - Tell us about the Lake Placid 9er

00:42:20 - What led you into losing weight and how did it work for you?

00:44:57 - What was your guilty pleasure snack?

00:46:30 - Was it hard to workout while cutting carbs out?

00:48:27 - What are the highlights of the Northville Placid Trail?

00:53:00 - Discussion about James’ podcast

00:54:42 - What equipment do you bring onto the trail for recording audio?

00:56:00 - Do you have free time?

00:59:41 - What goes into becoming a guide?

01:02:03 - What are your favorite peaks to hike?

01:04:00 - Which peaks do people put off hiking?

01:05:00 - What’s the best peak for beginners?

01:06:15 - What are some underrated mountains that are not 46ers?

01:07:00 - What peak have you done the most?

01:08:00 - What’s the wet season in the Adirondacks?

01:09:40 - What are the shelters like on the NPT?

01:12:20 - When should people visit the Adirondacks if they had any week of the year?

01:13:35 - When are hikers normally done with the NPT by?

01:16:00 - Discussion about bugs

01:18:06 - Do you have plans to hike in other areas?

01:21:15 - Tell us about your upcoming book

01:22:40 - Can you give us a quick campfire story?

01:26:31 - Stay Salty Question: What’s your outdoors hot take?

01:28:00 - Where can people keep up with you?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Want To Help AT Communities Recover From Hurricane Helene? Here’s How by Kelly Floro

QOTD: Which would you rather find living in your attic, 1000 roaches or a person?

Triple Crown of commercials

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

Road Trip Update

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Allmansright Founders Jen Jacobsson-Melo & Livio Melo on Making Ultralight Gear in the Bronx
5 Okt· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Jen Jacobsson-Melo & Livio Melo, co-founders of Allmansright, an ultralight gear company located in the Bronx. We learn all about their humble beginnings, including when Allmansright's gear was made in the corner of their 500-square-foot apartment, how a serendipitous run in with a fellow backpacker in Colorado's backcountry led to their first pre-order, how they've scaled up their operation, what it's like running a gear shop in the Bronx, where they draw inspiration for their designs, other small cottage brands doing interesting and good work from around the world, and much more.

We wrap the show with what the contents of our body and blood would be, the triple crown of the worst places to have raging diarrhea, and some teasers from our Northville Placid Trail Hike.

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Interview with Livio & Jen
allmansright Instagram allmansright Website REI Founders Story
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:55 - Reminders: Join us in Denver on December 7th! Apply to be a 2025 blogger and support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:07:55 - Introducing Jen & Livio

00:08:45 - What is allemansrätten?

00:10:50 - Tell us about moving to the US from the Dominican Republic

00:12:32 - What is the outdoor culture like in the Dominican Republic?

00:14:20 - Do you prefer being in the Dominican Republic or the US?

00:18:55 - What was the journey to you starting to make your own gear?

00:22:20 - How did you know how to make items?

00:24:00 - Tell us about your trip to Colorado

00:25:50 - How did you make gear in your 500 sq foot apartment?

00:30:30 - How do you balance gear orders with regular life?

00:31:35 - Tell us about going to design school

00:35:00 - What other gear companies serve as inspiration for you?

00:41:00 - What piece of gear are you most proud of?

00:43:40 - Do you have any plans to make a larger version of the pack?

00:45:00 - Discussion about the Krafs Stuff Sack

00:49:00 - Do you have any plans to break into the shelter space?

00:50:00 - Tell us about your shop in the Bronx

00:51:30 - Tell us about the hiker community in NYC

00:53:30 - What are some of the cool hiking opportunities near New York City?

00:57:29 - Have you experimented with apparel at all?

00:59:40 - Are there any materials you’re excited about?

01:01:00 - Discussion about creating new products

01:03:52 - What is your goal around sustainability?

01:04:35 - Discussion about packs

01:06:17 - Stay Salty Question: What’s your outdoors hot take?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: 6 Gas Station Resupply Recipes for Thru-Hikers by Kimberly Fetherston

QOTD: What is your body and blood?

Triple Crown of the worst places to have uncontrollable diarrhea

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Ian Mangiardi on Youtube Hit "As It Happens," Getting Dumped on Trail (Twice), and The Explorers Club
30 Sep· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Ian Mangiardi aka "Dusty". For those of you who've read Appalachian Trials, you're already familiar with Ian’s name, as he served as my pre AT thru-hike guru and therapist. Ian gives us a full rundown on his triple crown treks, including being dumped on two of the three hikes, how he and Andy Laub (former guest) formed an instant bromance on the first week of the AT, the filming of As It Happens, their PCT documentary with more than a million on YouTube, and some wild excursions in Mongolia and Bhutan.

We wrap the show with whether bringing terminal food onto the plane makes you a sociopath, the triple crown of New York things, and you can now officially get your tickets for our Denver Live Podcast with Kyle Hates Hiking and Holiday Hiker Meetup Extravaganza!

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Interview with Ian Mangiardi
Ian's Website Ian's Instagram As It Happens
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:45 - Reminders: Join us in Denver on December 7th! Apply to be a 2025 blogger and support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:07:10 - Introducing Ian

00:08:07 - How do Zach and Ian know each other?

00:12:13 - How did Ian and Andy meet?

00:14:12 - Tell us about your breakup

00:16:22 - What was your outdoors experience prior to the AT?

00:19:20 - How did you learn what gear you needed?

00:20:50 - Tell us about your second on-trail breakup

00:26:30 - Did you end the hike stronger than you started?

00:29:20 - Tell us about your friend fight

00:37:00 - Have you ever had a tramily other than Andy?

00:38:26 - How did you and Andy become friends?

00:40:30 - Was it an especially wet year on the AT?

00:43:45 - What fun stories do you have from the AT?

00:50:00 - Ian’s surprise trail magic

00:55:00 - Tell us about going from the AT to the PCT

00:57:01 - Chaunce’s As It Happens story

00:59:45 - Did you both film?

01:00:25 - How did you split up the workload?

01:02:17 - Tell us about getting caught in a snowstorm

01:04:20 - Tell us about kicking a rock off a cliff

01:06:00 - How did you decide what to cut out of the film?

01:09:14 - Did you hike the AT in spandex shorts?

01:10:45 - Do you still use a sleeping bag liner?

01:14:45 - Do you feel strongly about any other nontraditional gear items?

01:17:00 - Tell us about the New Explorers Award

01:20:45 - Tell us about the Kings Challenge in Bhutan

01:25:40 - What is the Explorers Club?

01:27:45 - What has changed in the world of thru-hiking?

01:30:26 - Where can people keep up with you?

01:32:28 - What’s your best poop story?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Everything You Need To Know To Plan an International Thru-Hike by Kelly Floro

QOTD: Is it messed up to bring airport terminal food onto the plane with the intent of eating it once you’re in your seat?

Triple Crown of New York things

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John Z on Making Gear, Not Filtering Water, and 50-Mile Days
23 Sep· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by thru-hiker, gear maker, YouTuber, musician, and dare I say philosopher, John Z. John Z has hiked it all, including the triple crown trails, the Arizona Trail, Colorado Trail- in 10 days, setting the unsupported FKT on the way, which was a side trip during his PCT thru-hike- the Great Divide Trail, Pacific Northwest Trail, the Death Valley Loop, amongst others. He gives us an overview of these trips, the inspiration behind starting Pa'Lante Packs and now Meadow Physics Gear, why he doesn't hike with a water filter or satellite communicator, his tendency toward being a "water princess," the time he barked at a cow and the cow fought back, his run-ins with an angry black bear and a mountain lion, and much more.

We wrap the show by unveiling our adult film star names, the triple crown of campaign promises 2.0, and Chuance leaves us a mailbag.

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Interview with John Z
Meadow Physics John's Youtube John's Instagram
Time stamps & Questions

00:02:40 - Reminders: Join us for a live show in Denver on December 7! Support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:05:18 - Introducing John Z

00:06:22 - What’s your background in the outdoors?

00:08:15 - If you had to pick only bikepacking or backpacking forever, which would it be?

00:09:50 - What led you to long distance backpacking?

00:11:29 - Did you start off ultralight?

00:14:15 - How did you transition from bikepacking?

00:16:04 - What was your biggest gear mistake early on?

00:18:20 - Tell us about making gear

00:21:54 - What were the vibes like in the desert on the PCT?

00:23:35 - How do you get trail beta?

00:25:07 - In what area do you think there’s the most room for improvement in gear?

00:27:03 - Tell us about the shelter you designed

00:30:00 - Tell us about your recent engagement

00:34:45 - How do you juggle a relationship with hiking?

00:36:35 - What’s the longest food carry you’ve done?

00:38:40 - Aside from light gear, what goes into long mileage days?

00:40:20 - What kind of food do you pack?

00:44:15 - Discussion about the Colorado Trail FKT

00:47:10 - What other FKTs have you attempted?

00:49:48 - Tell us the cow story

00:52:55 - Tell us the bear story

00:54:00 - Tell us the mountain lion story

00:56:40 - Tell us about your Alaska trip

00:58:50 - Why don’t you like to use a water filter?

01:00:30 - Discussion about tea

01:02:10 - What’s something you’ve gone on a deep dive on recently?

01:04:20 - What podcasts do you listen to while hiking?

01:06:04 - What don’t you like about the AT?

01:08:20 - What’s in your pack for a thru-hike?

01:11:35 - What do you do for bug protection?

01:14:00 - How do you pack your pack?

01:17:09 - Do you ever use a pack with a frame system?

01:17:55 - Tell us about the Death Valley Loop

01:20:20 - Are you more drawn to trails or routes?

01:21:20 - Do you think about your legacy?

01:22:17 - Is there any competition in route making?

01:23:00 - Tell us about the Great Divide Trail

01:25:00 - What trails do you keep repeating?

01:27:00 - Are you still making Youtube videos?

01:30:24 - What prompted you to take your channel down?

01:31:36 - What fabrics are you excited about right now?

01:33:55 - What’s next for you?

Segments

Trek Propaganda
2024 Appalachian Trail Thru-Hikers: Submit Your Completion Photos 272 Miles in Less Than 4 Days: William Peterson Sets New Long Trail FKT by Kimberly Fetherston
QOTD: If you were an adult film star, what would your stage name be?

Triple Crown of campaign promises 2.0

Mail Bag

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AT vs. PCT Panel: Gear, Culture, and Logistics with Abby Evans and Hannah Goodman
16 Sep· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek and brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are doing a thorough breakdown of the differences and similarities between the Appalachian Trail and the Pacific Crest Trail. We are joined by Trek Bloggers, Abby Evans, aka “Shitwater Fireball: Queer of the Salamanders" and Hannah “Spring” Goodman, who are both 2024 PCT thru-hikers, and had previously thru-hiked the AT as well. We talk about the differences in overall difficulty, including weather, terrain, logistics, and gear, the difference in trail cultures, the various highs and lows, and ultimately, each person gives which of the two trails they prefer overall. The results may surprise you.

We wrap the show with some news of a positive update on the new Lyme disease vaccine, who we would trade bodies with and what we would do first, the triple crown of streaming services, and a reader prompts Chaunce into giving us a more detailed breakdown about the time she pooped into a mountain house bag in her tent.

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Panel with Abby Evans aka “Shitwater Fireball” and Hannah “Spring” Goodman
Spring's Instagram Shitwater's Instagram
Time stamps & Questions

00:05:30 - Reminders: Come to our Brooklyn meetup TODAY (September 16)! And support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content and get your tickets for our live Denver show on December 7!

00:07:50 - Introducing Shitwater & Spring

00:09:03 - Spring, how did you get into the outdoors?

00:10:20 - Shitwater, how did you get into the outdoors?

00:12:57 - What are your trail name origin stories?

00:16:00 - What backpacking trips did you do before the AT?

00:17:08 - How has your PCT experience been?

00:18:27 - Zach & Chaunce’s AT/PCT experience

00:19:10 - AT vs. PCT: Overall difficulty

00:25:00 - Discussion about fire logistics and impacts

00:28:16 - Zach & Chaunce’s difficulty comparison between the trails

00:32:30 - Discussion about hike mindset between the AT and PCT

00:47:22 - What was the hardest part of skipping miles on the PCT?

01:01:00 - AT vs. PCT: Social experience

01:11:35 - Do you think being on trail was a good place to process the breakup?

01:18:00 - Chaunce’s trail social experiences

01:33:25 - AT vs. PCT: Gear differences

01:50:20 - How much rain did you experience on the PCT?

01:54:40 - AT vs. PCT: Highs and lows

02:14:20 - If you could only pick on trail for the rest of your life, which would you pick?

02:17:30 - Where can we keep up with you?

Segments

Rapid Fire Interviews
James “Almost Famous” Townsend Rachael “Pack Rat” Davis Katherine “Willy” Baals Sean Durkin aka TreeBeard
Trek Propaganda: Lyme Disease Vaccine Passes Stage Three Trials by Kimberly Featherston

QOTD: If you could trade bodies with someone for a day who would be and what would you do first?

Triple Crown of streaming services

Mail Bag

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Elina Osborne on “It Is The People”, Her PCT Documentary, Videography, and Storytelling
9 Sep· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Topo Athletic, we are joined by Elina Osborne. Elina is a thru-hiker, filmmaker, adventurer, and storyteller. Four years ago, Elina released a 15-minute documentary about her PCT thru-hike, titled "It Is The People", which has since accumulated nearly three-quarters of a million views on YouTube. We learn all about Elina's entry into film and storytelling, her process, equipment, and advice she has for future documentarians. She also gives us a preview of a new film currently in the works about her hike of The Hayduke alongside a past guest of Backpacker Radio.

We wrap the show with some rapid fire conversations with Trek bloggers we met at PCT Trail Days, the Triple Crown of things we document during a thru-hike, and the maximum number of times we can conceivably enjoy getting dressed up over the course of a year, and much more.

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Interview with Elina Osborne
Elina's Website Elina's Instagram
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:30 - Reminders: Join us in Brooklyn on September 16 and support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:06:41 - Introducing Elina

00:08:30 - What’s your trail name story?

00:09:28 - What was your entry into the outdoors?

00:11:27 - What is the hiking and backpacking culture like in New Zealand?

00:15:40 - How did you get into storytelling?

00:18:35 - How do you realize you’re in a cult?

00:21:22 - Was there backlash when you left?

00:23:19 - How did your first documentary inform your future hiking projects?

00:25:15 - How would you describe It Is The People?

00:27:19 - What was your PCT hike like socially?

00:31:00 - Discussion about offiating weddings

00:33:40 - Did you go into the hike planning to focus on people in your documentary?

00:37:02 - Did you intend to make it a series?

00:38:56 - Is it hard to get the camera out when you’re having a fun moment on trail?

00:40:15 - How do you find a balance between filming a hike and hiking in order to film?

00:42:23 - How do you plan who needs to film what?

00:43:25 - Do you look back at the PCT film and see things you would want to change?

00:45:17 - Do you still use the same approach for current film projects?

00:48:44 - Tell us about working for the New Zealand police department

00:52:07 - What was your wildest day on the job?

00:54:30 - Is it challenging to collaborate with other filmmakers while hiking?

00:57:10 - Did you butt heads on the Hayduke?

01:02:30 - Do you have an idea of where the Hayduke documentary will land?

01:05:34 - How do you make editing work on a team project?

01:10:30 - What are your next hiking adventures?

01:15:40 - What is your process for deciding what the story will be?

01:18:10 - Are there any storytellers you’re inspired by right now?

01:21:27 - Do you have advice for others who want to document their hiking experience?

01:23:10 - Who is your primary audience?

01:24:01 - Kumo Question: What is your dream vacation destination?

01:27:50 - What is the highlights tour of New Zealand?

01:32:00 - Where can people go to keep up with you?

Segments

Rapid Fire Interviews
Angie aka “The Little Mermaid” Elizabeth aka “Bags Bunny” Sakari aka “Paw Patrol” Christopher Smiley
Triple Crown of the things you document on a long trail

QOTD: What’s the maximum number of times in the year you can enjoy getting dressed up?

Mail Bag

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Cam Bostock on Amassing 600K+ Instagram Followers, Adventuring in Australia vs. the USA, and Hiking the Pacific Crest Trail
2 Sep· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Cam Bostock. With more than 600K Followers, Cam is a bonafide Instagram hiking celebrity. Cam teaches us all about his home, the great country of Australia, including his adventures on the Bibbulmun Track and Munda Biddi Trail, in addition to how often someone needs to fistfight a kangaroo, the frequency of deadly snake encounters, and other stereotypically dumb American questions. We also learn all about Cam's PCT trek, including all that goes into creating a polished Instagram Reel for every day of his hike, his favorite moments from the trail, and the biggest cultural differences between hiking in the US and Australia.

We wrap the show with an overview of our time at PCT Trail Days, hint: we were dangerously close to Thunder Island Brewing, if Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays are odd or even, and the triple crown of meat.

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Interview with Cam Bostock
Cam's Instagram Cam's Youtube
Time stamps & Questions

00:02:30 - PCT Days Recap

00:24:40 - Reminders: Join us in Brooklyn on September 16 and support us on Patreon for bonus content!

00:28:00 - Introducing Cam

00:30:43 - Do you have a trail name?

00:31:45 - What was your intro into long distance backpacking?

00:32:23 - What are the basics of the Bibbulmun Track?

00:34:00 - Discussion about Australian wildlife

00:40:04 - What’s the ideal season for the Bibbulmun Track?

00:42:15 - How popular is the Bibbulmun Track?

00:42:53 - How does the culture of long distance hiking in Australia compare to the US?

00:45:20 - Discussion about vegemite

00:46:30 - What other cultural differences have you noticed in the US?

00:47:35 - How did you choose the PCT?

00:48:16 - Tell us about the Munda Biddi Trail

00:50:28 - What other Australian trails are you interested in?

00:53:10 - Tell us about stand up paddleboard touring

00:56:04 - What’s the culture around outdoor sports in Australia?

01:01:50 - Do you have standout stories from the Te Araroa?

01:05:28 - Who’s the biggest Australian celebrity?

01:06:50 - FMK: stand up paddleboarding, backpacking, and mountain biking

01:07:45 - How did you get so many Instagram followers?

01:10:10 - What do you think attributes to that many followers?

01:11:20 - How do you manage your content creation while hiking every day?

01:13:00 - What apps do you use?

01:14:35 - Do you think content creation adds or takes away from your hike?

01:16:50 - Discussion about monetizing content

01:18:00 - How long have you been with your tramily?

01:22:00 - What’s the strangest outreach you’ve gotten while on the PCT?

01:25:07 - What do you miss most about your wife?

01:27:05 - How have you been dealing with the fire situation on the PCT?

01:31:00 - Have you thought about hiking the Oregon Coast Trail?

01:34:02 - What is your approach to social media content?

01:37:02 - What are your top 2 or 3 stories from the PCT?

01:40:20 - What has been your best day on the PCT so far?

01:42:42 - What has been your scariest day on trail?

01:44:30 - What would your advice be for someone who wants to hike the PCT from abroad?

01:47:50 - How much would you tell someone to budget for the PCT?

01:50:15 - What’s next?

01:51:07 - Kumo Question: What is your spirit animal and why?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Black Bear That Mauled 3-Year-Old Girl Near Yellowstone Has Been Euthanized by Kelly Floro

QOTD: Are Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays even days and Tuesdays, Thursdays odd days or vice versa?

Triple Crown of meat

Mail Bag

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Jeffrey James Binney on Being a Plus-Sized Ultrarunner, TikTok Fame, and the PCT
26 Aug· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are at PCT Trail Days! Our guest today is Jeffrey James Binney, a modern-day renaissance man who is an award-winning filmmaker, motivational speaker, ultrarunning athlete, and PCT hiker. We learn all about Jeffrey's story, including how losing his mom at a young age inspired him to pursue endurance sports, what it's like for a gay vegetarian to grow up in a rural pig farm in the midwest, his entry into improv and stand-up comedy, how he went from not being able to run a city block to a 100-mile race, making uber-viral dance TikTok videos, his favorite moments from his PCT hike, and much more.

We wrap the show by grabbing the first hiker we found off the street here in Cascade Locks and forcing her to join us for segments and being blessed with an all-time trail hookup story in the process.

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Interview with Jeffrey James Binney
Jeffrey's Website Jeffrey's Instagram Jeffrey's Youtube Once is Enough film
Time stamps & Questions

00:05:25 - Reminders: Join us in Brooklyn for a hiker meetup on September 16 and support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:07:50 - Introducing Jeffrey

00:09:08 - What’s your origin story for getting into endurance sports?

00:12:10 - Were you surprised to enjoy running the first time you did it as an adult?

00:15:45 - What was the first 100 mile race you attempted?

00:19:05 - Tell us about being a recovering comedian

00:21:02 - Which performance art makes you the most nervous?

00:23:00 - Hiking themed improv

00:25:00 - Tell us about your film

00:30:11 - Tell us about being vegetarian on trail and growing up on a pig farm

00:33:27 - Did your dad push back at all on your vegetarianism?

00:37:45 - Tell us about your TikTok dances

00:45:45 - How has thru hiking compared to ultrarunning?

00:46:40 - What advice do you have for someone interested in ultrarunning?

00:50:33 - Discussion about thru-hiking culture

00:51:54 - How do you determine your weekly volume and pacing?

00:55:57 - What have your favorite moments from the PCT been so far?

01:00:45 - If you can only do thru-hiking or ultrarunning for the rest of your life, which would you pick?

01:01:50 - Is your husband worried you’ll want to do more long distance hiking?

01:04:34 - Discussion about Jeffrey’s Brooks sponsorship

01:09:00 - Discussion about Jeffrey’s manager

01:11:30 - What do you want to convey to listeners about overcoming fear?

01:14:24 - Is losing enthusiasm for thru-hiking common on all long trails?

01:23:24 - Discussion about tramily and hiking alone

01:27:06 - How much of the trail have you spent doing your own thing?

01:29:12 - Kumo Question: What is the most boring superpower you can think of?

01:33:10 - Tell us about your upcoming TrovaTrip

01:34:30 - Where can people go to keep up with you?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Is It Safe To Keep Hiking in Wildfire Smoke? by Kelly Floro

Random Hiker Interview: Clumsy

QOTD: I say a number, you say the color

Triple Crown of recurring dream themes

Mail Bag

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Zach Hiked the Weminuchoo Choo Loop (and His Biggest Backpacking Blunder Yet)
19 Aug· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, Zach takes on the role of guest. This episode recaps his recent hike through the Weminuche Wilderness, a 40-mile loop he’s coined the "Weminuchoo Choo Loop." It’s bound to catch on. Zach gives a full overview of the hike, covering the distance, elevation gain, alternate route options, trail highlights, wildlife, and more. He also shares a story about perhaps his biggest backcountry blunder to date—an expensive mistake, and one he had the distinct pleasure of having a witness for. Additionally, Zach discusses some new gear he tested on this trip, including a piece that will forever change his water retrieval system.

The episode wraps up with sun protection tips for the backcountry, the triple crown of the easiest items to forget to pack for a backpacking trip, whether it’s acceptable to put ketchup on a hot dog, and a listener’s valuable tips about backpacking Patagonia’s O-Circuit.

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Interview with Zach!

Time stamps & Questions

00:05:00 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content and join us in NYC this September 16 for a hiker meetup!

00:09:45 - Introducing Zach

00:10:20 - Overview of Zach’s original plans and adapted plans in the Weminuche

00:13:38 - The train logistics

00:19:32 - What’s the overview of the route?

00:22:10 - Zach’s big blunder

00:28:10 - What was the aftermath of the blunder?

00:31:30 - How did you navigate the remainder of the hike?

00:32:50 - Will you start using paper maps?

00:34:10 - What other blunders occurred?

00:36:24 - Day 1

00:40:45 - Day 2

00:48:00 - Day 3

00:54:04 - What other wildlife did you see?

00:55:09 - How was the water situation?

00:55:32 - Did you need permits?

00:55:45 - Would you hike it with a dog?

00:56:19 - How would you recommend making it longer?

00:57:47 - Elk Park to Needleton on AllTrails

00:58:32 - What gear did you bring?

01:01:24 - What tent did you use?

01:05:30 - What was the weather like?

01:07:14 - You wore a sun hoodie?

01:10:30 - Is it worth flying into Durango rather than Denver if you want to do this hike?

01:12:40 - Kumo Question: If animals could talk, which one would be the most annoying?

01:15:00 - Final thoughts on the Weminuchoo Choo Loop

Segments

Trek Propaganda: The Essential Gear for Sun Protection on Your Thru-Hike by Ariella Nardizzi

QOTD: Ketchup on a hot dog?

Triple Crown of easiest things to forget to pack for a backpacking trip

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Justin Simoni, the Long Ranger, on Creating Ridge Routes and Hiking the Highest Hundred Peaks in Colorado
12 Aug· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Justin Simoni aka the Long Ranger. In addition to established routes like the Tour Divide and Nolan’s 14, Justin also creates his own - he’s traversed the Sangre de Cristo Range, Mosquito and Tenmile Ranges, and from Milner to Berthoud Pass along the divide. And while summiting all of Colorado’s 14,000 ft peaks is an effort in itself, Justin summited the top 100 highest mountains in the state after biking to them from his home in Boulder. We talk about all of the nitty gritty details of taking on these ridgeline routes, why he lives car-free, a detailed measurement of how much weight and water he lost over the course of a grueling day hike, some of his current favorite gear, and more.

We wrap the show with an overview of some of the best loop hikes in the United States, what we would telepathically say to all 8 billion people on earth, and the triple crown of things on our bedside table.

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Interview with Justin Simoni aka the Long Ranger
Justin’s Website Justin's Instagram Justin’s Youtube
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:50 - Reminders: Mark your calendar for our Brooklyn, NY meetup on September 16, support us on Patreon, check out Chaunce & Elise’s TCT hike on Youtube, and leave us a voicemail!

00:13:10 - Introducing Justin

00:14:10 - Tell us about your water loss experiment

00:19:15 - Have you done other similar studies?

00:20:25 - What was your food intake like during the experiment?

00:22:15 - What is your primary focus in your personal trinity of mountain arts?

00:24:20 - You don’t own a car?

00:26:00 - How did you originally get into the outdoors?

00:28:50 - How many times have you summitted Green Mountain?

00:31:50 - Tell us about the Milner to Berthoud Pass Traverse

00:34:25 - Is it stressful to do high consequence moves while trying to go quickly?

00:35:50 - How does this traverse compare to others that you’ve done?

00:37:40 - Did you notice an uptick in FKTs in 2020?

00:38:31 - What was the most challenging part of the Vanishing Point?

00:41:00 - What instrument do you play?

00:43:00 - What’s your camping setup?

00:43:30 - How do you avoid thunderstorms?

00:47:00 - What does spike your anxiety?

00:48:00 - How do you prevent making careless errors?

00:50:10 - The Mosquito/Ten Mile Range Traverse

00:53:03 - How many scouting trips did you do for the Vanishing Point project?

00:54:12 - Do you get bored while hiking?

00:56:00 - What do you do for work?

00:57:50 - What are your thoughts on sun hoodies?

01:00:25 - How did it feel to be the first person to complete the Vanishing Point project?

01:01:33 - What are the most significant ways you’ve changed after completing projects?

01:03:00 - Do you experience post trail depression?

01:04:30 - What do you do for water on your trips?

01:07:50 - Tell us about the Sangre de Cristo Range Traverse

01:11:15 - What was the technicality like on this traverse?

01:13:44 - How should someone get familiar with class 5 pitches with a heavy pack?

01:17:30 - Have you noticed any drop in fitness as you’ve aged?

01:19:36 - Nolan’s 14 description

01:21:35 - Discussion about sleep apnea and asthma

01:24:00 - Tell us about the Slowlans Traverse

01:27:40 - What is it about the ridge hikes that keep you coming back?

01:29:00 - Discussion about popularity trends

01:30:15 - Tell us about the Mosquito/Ten Mile Range Traverse

01:35:00 - Could someone who doesn’t like exposure find an alternate route?

01:36:10 - Tell us about the Highest Hundred

01:39:44 - How did you logistically tackle this?

01:43:00 - Biking from Boulder to Longs Peak

01:47:45 - Do you feel pressure to keep coming up with new projects?

01:48:30 - Do you see your guides as an act of service?

01:52:00 - Discussion about the Colorado Trail FKT

01:56:00 - Do you have to train to sleep less for an FKT attempt?

01:59:45 - Do you ever plan trips based on the moon cycle?

02:00:20 - Kumo Question: What is the most useless skill you’ve ever learned?

Segments

Mail Bag

Trek Propaganda:
12 Epic Multi-Night Loop Hikes in the US by Kelly Floro Dead Weight: 13 Thru-Hikers Reveal the Gear They Sent Home by Ariella Nardizzi
QOTD: If you could telepathically say something to all 7.95 billion people on earth, what would you say?

Triple Crown of things in your bedside table

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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The Teton Crest Trail with Chaunce & Elise
5 Aug· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, Chaunce and Elise give us a thorough rundown on their recent trek of the Teton Crest Trail. We learn all the requisite facts about this trail, including length, landscape highlights, permitting, travel, wildlife, the best campsites, water availability and more. We also get a play by play of some of the best stories from the duo's hike, including a misfortunate start to the journey, Elise's serendipitous reunion with a Wyoming dive bar, how Chaunce managed her extreme grizzly anxiety, running into a former guest of the podcast on trail, crowd surfing at a concert, and more.

We wrap the show with a triple crown of PCT sections you'd take someone you hate, how we'd blow a million dollars in 24 hours, and The 1800-Mile Australian Triple Crown.

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Interview with Chaunce & Elise!
Chaunce’s Instagram Elise’s Instagram
Time stamps & Questions

00:02:40 - Reminders: Mark your calendars for our NYC Meetup this September 16! And support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:06:30 - Introducing Chaunce & Elise

00:07:30 - What is the Teton Crest Trail?

00:10:00 - DIscussion about the trail termini

00:11:48 - What was the permit situation?

00:17:25 - What’s the best way to get to the trail?

00:19:30 - Discussion about the elevation

00:23:20 - Discussion about Gaia

00:32:20 - How did you prepare for wildlife prior to the trip?

00:41:00 - Discussion about bear signs on trail

00:43:30 - Discussion about wildlife sightings on trail

00:47:11 - What was the water situation like?

00:48:48 - What were the inclines, terrain, and landscapes like?

00:51:50 - Deciding which car to take

00:58:10 - The car problem

01:03:00 - Elise’s Rawlins vortex

01:12:00 - Resolution of the car issues

01:14:50 - Getting onto the trail

01:21:00 - Discussion about the camping zones and day 1 of hiking

01:23:57 - Chaunce forgot about bugs

01:27:00 - Day 2 of hiking

01:38:10 - Discussion about fear of snow and Paintbrush Divide

01:39:49 - Day 2 dinner and evening

01:46:20 - Moose sightings and signs

01:49:10 - Day 3 of hiking

01:52:30 - Hiking over Paintbrush Divide

02:04:20 - Day 3 evening

02:07:20 - Day 4 of hiking

02:08:50 - Chaunce & Elise’s concert

02:11:40 - Closing thoughts on the Teton Crest Trail

02:12:05 - Kumo Question: If you could have one superpower that’s not commonly mentioned, what would it be?

Segments

Trek Propaganda
Meet Your Next Big Thru-Hiking Challenge: The 1800-Mile Australian Triple Crown by J Taylor Bell New Study Helps Explain Why Your Hiking Clothes Smell So Bad by Kelly Floro
QOTD: How would you blow a million dollars in 24 hours?

Triple Crown of PCT sections you’d take someone you hate

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Stuart Howe on Backpacking with His Twin Daughters across Canadian National Parks
29 Jul· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Stuart Howe. Stu is an avid backpacker of remote and rugged Canadian treks, the proprietor of a Youtube Channel dedicated to documenting the backpacking trips he’s done with his identical twin daughters, and the nicest guy you’ve ever met!

We learn all about how his entry into backpacking was spearheaded by his girls, the best trails he’s done across Canada and the US, how he likely encountered an aggressively grizzly bear that later tragically killed a couple and their dog, and his organization, which aims to expand safe access into the Canadian backcountry.

We wrap the show with news of a missing thru-hiker on the PCT, the best outdoor temperature, the triple crown of worst TV characters, and how Chaunce's random act of kindness is giving her internet street cred.

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Interview with Stuart Howe
Howe's the Hike Website Howe's the Hike Youtube The Canadian Backcountry Trails Preservation Society
Time stamps & Questions

00:02:20 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content! Keep an eye out for the Trek’s fall editorial internship and use code “gingerstuff” for 15% off the Trek’s new merch!

00:04:30 - Introducing Stuart

00:05:00 - What is the Royal Canadian Geographical Society College of Fellows?

00:07:25 - Tell us about your wedding planning business

00:12:28 - In what ways is planning a good wedding like planning a good backpacking trip?

00:13:11 - At what age did you start backpacking with your daughters?

00:16:42 - What’s your background in the outdoors?

00:17:42 - How did you figure out the girls’ gear on initial trips?

00:20:13 - Were there less glamorous portions of backpacking with teenagers?

00:22:34 - Do your daughters get along better compared to their peers?

00:23:34 - What family dynamics set them up for success before you started backpacking?

00:25:20 - Were you reluctant or excited to start a Youtube channel?

00:26:35 - How involved were the girls in the Youtube video production?

00:27:40 - How much work was it to keep them interested in backpacking?

00:29:09 - Did you intervene in disagreements?

00:30:05 - What was it like to teach two young girls to poop in the woods?

00:31:20 - What ‘oh shit’ moments did you encounter?

00:32:50 - Do you prepare more for trips with your kids than solo trips?

00:34:05 - Have you had any scary animal encounters?

00:39:00 - Discussion about bear spray

00:47:37 - The rest of Stu’s bear story

00:51:00 - Discussion about dogs and bears

00:55:40 - How do you handle food at camp when hiking through grizzly country?

00:57:20 - Are you more afraid to return to the area where you encountered the grizzly?

00:58:10 - The conclusion to the grizzly bear story

01:01:00 - Tell us about the Fundy Circuit

01:02:30 - How different are the Fundy Circuit and the Fundy Footpath?

01:03:30 - What is the Molar Loop like?

01:04:15 - How difficult is it to get permits for backpacking in Banff and Jasper?

01:06:40 - Is the backcountry less crowded than the frontcountry?

01:11:30 - How do you compare solo backpacking to trips with your kids?

01:13:45 - Did your wife miss going on the backpacking trips?

01:16:45 - Tell us about the South Boundary Trail in Jasper

01:18:40 - What trail would you recommend for someone with their kids in Banff or Jasper?

01:20:13 - How did you teach them about dangerous things without creating fear?

01:23:00 - What are the biggest differences in backpacking in the US versus Canada?

01:24:15 - What are the biggest resupply differences?

01:25:34 - Did you have your daughters navigate while hiking?

01:26:20 - Tell us about the Rocky Mountain Loadout

01:27:30 - What’s the Ancient Wall area like?

01:28:18 - Tell us about the West Coast trail

01:31:42 - Did you see any mountain lions?

01:32:41 - Why not the Sunshine Coast Trail?

01:34:00 - Tell us about the Canadian Backcountry Trails Preservation Society?

01:38:40 - How can people get involved if they’re interested?

01:39:58 - Kumo Question: What is the one celebrity you’d be most starstruck to meet?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: PCT Hiker Missing for Over 2 Months, Authorities Begin Search by Ariella Nardizzi

QOTD: What is the best outdoor temperature?

Triple Crown of the worst TV characters

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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Foot Strength, Injury Prevention, Footwear Recommendations, and Gait Mechanics with Dr. Courtney Conley
22 Jul· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Dr. Courtney Conley. Dr. Conley is an internationally renowned foot and gait specialist, founder and creator of Gait Happens, and chiropractic physician who specializes in foot and gait mechanics. We chat all things related to foot health related to long-distance backpacking, including what to look for in footwear and what characteristics to avoid, how to best prepare your feet for a successful hike, and preventing and treating common foot injuries- including unconventional exercises to help you accomplish this. In a nutshell, Dr. Conley is a foot wizard and you will learn a great deal about setting your feet up for success on trail.

We wrap the show with backpacking items to ditch to lower your base weight, what vegetable we would be, the triple crown of things that are true, but we're not buying it, and a one-minute gear review of a trail runner that's been gaining a lot of traction in the world of thru-hiking.

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Interview with Dr. Courtney Conley

Gait Happens Website (Backpacker Radio listeners get 10% off consults, classes, and products)

Time stamps & Questions

00:04:20 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon, suggest a guest for PCT Days, and apply for the Trek’s full time position!

00:07:35 - Introducing Dr. Conley

00:08:40 - How did you decide to specialize in gait?

00:10:25 - How do you analyze people walking?

00:12:41 - What’s the easiest gait problem to spot in the wild?

00:13:30 - If you could change one thing about everyone to improve their feet, what would it be?

00:16:52 - Discussion about shoe cushioning

00:18:10 - Discussion about walking barefoot

00:20:00 - In what circumstances would you recommend more cushion?

00:21:40 - Discussion about wide toe boxes

00:22:33 - What other brands have shoes that include your recommendations?

00:23:43 - Discussion about heel-toe drop

00:25:00 - Should everyone be striving to use a zero drop shoe?

00:28:30 - Discussion about toe strength

00:29:30 - How should someone build foot strength in preparation for a thru-hike?

00:32:30 - Who are your primary patients?

00:33:55 - Are achilles tears becoming more common and how can they be prevented?

00:36:14 - Discussion about plyometrics

00:38:20 - Where does more traditional strength training fit into foot strength?

00:41:15 - What’s your view on toe socks?

00:42:30 - What can someone do with their kids to ensure they have strong feet?

00:46:03 - Would you ever recommend hiking boots?

00:50:38 - What are the most common issues you work with in backpackers?

00:53:29 - Can it be harmful to power through without an orthotic?

00:54:53 - What workouts should people do to prevent plantar fasciitis?

00:57:37 - Once you notice plantar fasciitis, what should you do?

01:00:00 - How can people help their feet recover?

01:06:10 - Discussion about healing from ankle sprains

01:06:45 - Discussion about stress fractures

01:08:51 - Can a weak foot lead to knee or hip injuries?

01:14:50 - Discussion about optimal shoes for running

01:17:20 - What do you wear for running?

01:17:50 - Do you have recommendations for long distance hiking shoes?

01:19:45 - Do you have recommendations for general foot ache?

01:23:34 - Any other product recommendations?

01:24:30 - Anything else we should have asked you?

01:29:91 - Is it bad if your foot is flat or you have a collapsed arch?

01:31:41 - What’s your recommended regimen for going from a 5 millimeter drop to a 0 drop?

01:33:00 - Do you work with patients remotely?

01:35:05 - Kumo Question: What is the cheesiest pickup line you’ve ever heard or used?

Segments

Trek Propaganda:
Driftless Hiking Trail: New Funding Package Is Big Win for Minnesota Long Trail by Kelly Floro Peg Leg: 7 Gear Items I Ditched To Cut My Base Weight in Half by Peg Leg
QOTD: If you were a vegetable, what vegetable would you be?

Triple Crown of things that are true, but I’m not buying it

One-Minute Gear Review

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Mary "Badass" Anderson an AT Winter SOBO in the 80s and Hiking the National Scenic Trails as an Older Solo Female
15 Jul· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Helinox, we are joined by Mary "Badass" Anderson. Never has a trail name been more fitting, Mary is the most badass hiker you've likely never heard of. With nearly 19,000 miles under her feet spanning six decades, with her first thru-hike taking place in 1981, Mary has not slowed down with her adventurous ways, as she swung by the studio on her to the Pacific Northwest Trail. Some of the highlights from today's interview include a wild winter SOBO thru-hike of the AT in 1985, just a handful of months after a major back surgery where her doctor told her to give up hiking. She followed her AT SOBO winter hike by immediately hopping over to the PCT, where she battled even more snow, and killed and ate a rattlesnake. Other feats include hiking all of the 4,000 footers in New England with her young son in the 90s, completing the CDT after hitting a new low in 2020, and now she's on a quest to finish all of the National Scenic Trails, with only a couple remaining. In short, Mary's story is one of a kind, you will enjoy today's chat.

We wrap the show with a last call for applications for The Trek's new full-time role, a pair of beloved trail angels close their doors after 17 years serving PCT hikers, what music we would listen to on the way to rescue our significant others from a hostage situation, the triple crown of onomatopoeias, and Chaunce is very afraid of grizzlies.

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Interview with Mary “Badass” Anderson
Mary's Blog
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:40 - Reminders: Apply for the Trek’s full-time role! Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and send us your recommendations for a hiker meetup this fall in NYC.

00:10:34 - Introducing Mary

00:11:40 - How’d you get your trail name?

00:13:14 - How did you initially get started long distance backpacking?

00:15:22 - How did you prepare for backpacking in the 80s?

00:21:05 - What does your baseweight look like today?

00:23:47 - What was the AT like in the 80s?

00:26:56 - Did the AT feel easy compared to the Long Trail?

00:29:02 - What resources did you have for navigation?

00:32:38 - What were your resupplies like?

00:34:00 - Tell us about your back injury and being told never to hike again

00:38:10 - Where does your toughness come from?

00:39:00 - How much of a physical struggle was the AT southbound in winter?

00:40:46 - Where did you experience the worst weather?

00:41:50 - Did you think it might have been a bad idea?

00:45:30 - What did your winter pack and gear look like?

00:49:39 - How did you keep on the trail?

00:50:45 - What about backpacking do you enjoy?

00:52:20 - Did people know what you were doing?

00:54:08 - How did you afford hiking then and now?

00:56:12 - What trail recipes do you make?

00:57:18 - What did it feel like to get to Springer and then start the PCT?

01:02:09 - What was your experience on the PCT like?

01:04:23 - Tell us about your rattlesnake encounter

01:07:00 - Discussion about fear and wildlife encounters

01:10:30 - Did you encounter other thru-hikers on the PCT in 1986?

01:11:10 - How did you enjoy the PCT relative to the AT?

01:14:00 - What was the scariest moment of your backpacking career?

01:17:05 - Tell us about the hiking you did with your son

01:19:55 - Do you have advice for getting your kids outside?

01:21:15 - What was it like hiking the Long Trail with your 8 year old?

01:22:30 - How have you noticed the concept of gender changing in the backcountry?

01:24:08 - Tell us about a bear paying for your cross country road trip

01:26:36 - How did you get back into long distance thru-hiking?

01:29:22 - When did you switch from map and compass to apps?

01:31:32 - Do you long for hikes from decades ago?

01:35:55 - How was the southern half of the CDT in 2020?

01:37:42 - How was your mental state?

01:42:10 - Tell us about staying with people on the Ice Age Trail

01:44:28 - Tell us about the northern half of the CDT

01:49:55 - Tell us about your Vermont bike trip

01:54:16 - Discussion about the role of the internet

01:55:40 - Discussion about the Catamount Cross Country Ski Trail

01:58:50 - How was the Connecticut River Source to Sea Paddle?

02:06:05 - Tell us about the New England Trail

02:10:08 - Discussion about the Natchez Trace Trail

02:12:00 - Discussion about the Potomoc Heritage Trail

02:17:40 - Anything else to share about the Arizona Trail?

02:24:00 - What’s next?

Segments

Trek Propaganda:
17 Years, 8,000 Hikers: Trail Angels Scout and Frodo Retire from PCT Hosting by Arielle Nardizzi Professor: The Strategy That’s Helped Me Afford 6 Years, 15K Miles of Thru-Hiking (Jobs, Budgeting Tips, and More) by Carl Stanfield
QOTD: Your wife has been kidnapped and is being held in a location 30 minutes away. You’re driving to rescue her. It’s a warm night and your windows are down. Do you listen to music on the drive there, yes or no?

Triple Crown of onomatopoeias

Power Ranking: Animals You Want to Encounter on Trail

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Adam Cramer, CEO of Outdoor Alliance, on the EXPLORE Act and Conservation Advocacy
8 Jul· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Helinox, we are joined by Adam Cramer, the founding Executive Director and CEO of Outdoor Alliance, a national coalition of outdoor recreation advocacy groups revitalizing the conservation movement with modern organizing and digital engagement. We learn all about this organization, the work they've done, the conservation movement at large, some interesting data from their recent wildfire report, and much more.

We wrap the show with news of a new feature from iOS 18 which could be a gamechanger for backpackers, the proper ratio of water to corpses, and the triple Crown of AT trail sections you’d take someone you hate.

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Interview with Adam Cramer
Take action for the EXPLORE Act Sign up for action alerts Outdoor Alliance Action Center Wildfire and Outdoor Recreation in the West
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:00 - Reminders: Apply for the Trek’s new full time position! Suggest a guest for us to interview at PCT Days and support us on Patreon.

00:07:35 - Introducing Adam

00:08:13 - What makes for a good skatepark?

00:09:20 - Tell us about whitewater rafting

00:12:44 - What is Outdoor Alliance and how is it funded?

00:14:00 - How do you pick where the primary attention goes?

00:15:22 - How did you get involved with Outdoor Alliance?

00:20:04 - What are the specific objectives of Outdoor Alliance for this year?

00:22:07 - What does the EXPLORE act include?

00:24:10 - How did the EXPLORE act get passed in the House and what’s the process for the Senate?

00:28:39 - Tell us about the funding

00:31:04 - Do you collaborate with any hunting and fishing organizations?

00:33:06 - Does any of the funding go towards trail maintenance?

00:35:35 - Does it get exhausting to argue the same thing year after year?

00:37:32 - What were some of the findings from the Outdoor Alliance wildfire report?

00:41:50 - Would some regions implement this before others?

00:47:07 - Are you looking to expand how many organizations you work with?

00:47:45 - Kumo Question: What’s the most beautiful place you’ve ever been to?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: No Signal, No Problem: Apple Introduces 2-Way Satellite Messaging for iPhones by James Townsend

Accidental Oopsies

QOTD: People will swim in the ocean, even though there are definitely many corpses in it. People will not swim in a pool with a corpse in it. Humans all have a corpse:water ratio that is acceptable for them to swim in. What is your ratio?

Triple Crown of AT trail sections you’d take someone you hate

Priest Confession (and leave us your own!)

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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John Mackey, Whole Foods Co-Founder, on His Thru-Hiking Experience, Co-Owning Gossamer Gear, and Entrepreneurship
1 Jul· Backpacker Radio
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by Helinox we are joined by John Mackey. On trail he's known as "Strider", off trail he's known as the co-founder and former CEO of Whole Foods. In addition to being a world-class entrepreneur, Mackey is also a backpacking enthusiast, having hike the AT, PCT, Colorado Trail, and many trails abroad including hikes in the Alps, Patagonia, and more. This is a fun, informative, and wide ranging chat that covers his thru-hike on the AT while being the active Whole Foods CEO, how he saved Gossamer Gear from near extinction, his fascination with UL gear, including his own 6.5 lb base weight, how his love for fantasy novels spilled into his own creative endeavor at the AT's shelter logs, his favorite vegan trail snacks, and much more. We also dive into some non-backpacking talk, including how to build a successful and healthy company culture, his take on labor unions, how psychedelics played a pivotal role in his life, and we learn all about his new book, The Whole Story: Adventures in Love, Life, and Capitalism. Chaunce and I were amped for this chat and it did not disappoint.

We wrap the show with a sneak peak at a new full-time job opening at The Trek, what fact is common knowledge in our field, but unknown to most of the population, the triple crown of Whole Foods foods, and Chaunce's encounter with a ghost.

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Interview with John “Strider” Mackey
John’s Website John's Instagram Love Life Website
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:56 - Reminders: Apply for the Trek’s new full time role! Suggest a guest for PCT Days and support us on Patreon for bonus exclusive content!

00:08:15 - Introducing John

00:09:18 - Tell us about investigating your wife’s fridge during your first date

00:12:27 - We Love Love: Tell us about telling her how you felt

00:18:12 - Did that make you more sensitive to how you interact with people?

00:19:15 - What was the origin story of buying Gossamer Gear?

00:23:46 - Are you still involved in the operations of Gossamer Gear?

00:25:15 - How did you get to a baseweight of 6 pounds?

00:26:50 - What are your Big Three?

00:28:00 - How did Ray Jardine’s book insprie you?

00:30:30 - Tell us about getting off trail

00:33:22 - What’s it like to complete the AT and go back to being the CEO of Whole Foods?

00:36:01 - Tell us about your trail register stories

00:39:35 - What was the process for your support vehicle?

00:41:44 - Did other hikers realize you were involved with Whole Foods?

00:43:10 - What impact has psychadelics had on your career?

00:49:33 - What did your parents think when you started Safer Way?

00:54:56 - Was it hard to ask your father to leave the board of Whole Foods?

00:58:50 - What was the community’s reaction to you starting Safer Way?

01:02:18 - How did you mentally keep up with the growth of Whole Foods?

01:03:43 - Were there any books you recommend to entrepreneurs?

01:05:28 - Discussion about listening to books while long distance hiking

01:07:00 - Discussion about what John eats while backpacking

01:10:21 - What kind of cravings do you get while hiking?

01:12:20 - What do you think about alternative meat burgers?

01:13:23 - Can you explain why vegans are against eggs?

01:16:20 - Tell us about hiking with the founder of Celestial Seasonings tea

01:18:58 - What was the origin story of your step-daughter’s trail name?

01:20:09 - What sticky situations have you gotten into on trail?

01:24:00 - Tell us about hiking the PCT

01:27:39 - Tell us about the Via Francigena and Alpe Adria

01:29:50 - What has been your favorite European trail?

01:31:35 - What’s your take on REI’s recent efforts on union busting?

01:36:52 - What tips do you have for building a strong company culture?

01:42:00 - Discussion about merging with Amazon

01:43:18 - What is Jeff Bezos like?

01:43:41 - Zach’s idea for grocery store improvement

01:45:33 - Kumo Question: What is the cheesiest movie you secretly love?

01:48:26 - Tell us about Love Life

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Kristian Morgan Aims for Another Appalachian Trail FKT by Ariella Nardizzi

QOTD: What fact is common knowledge in your field, but unknown to most of the population?

Spooky Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of Whole Foods foods

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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Skin Protection on Trail: Sunscreen, Clothing, and Supplements with Dr. Katie Manno
24 Jun· Backpacker Radio
In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by dermatologist, and my old pal, Dr. Katie Manno. This is a chat I’ve been wanting to highlight on this podcast for years now, and it lived up to my lofty expectations. Dr. Manno gives us a thorough runthrough on all things skin health related and how it pertains to extended time in the outdoors, including why sun protection is so important, the difference between chemical and mineral sunscreens and which is better for the trail, how much and what SPF sunscreen hikers should use, the safety profile of chemical sunscreens and what chemicals specifically to avoid, sun protective clothing and the science behind UPF ratings, vitamin D considerations when using sunscreen and/or sun clothing, what supplements and skin care products she recommends to optimize skin health, and much more. Needless to say, you will come away from this chat smarter than you entered it.

We wrap the show with why one former guest always uses a bear canister when thru-hiking, we opine on whether donating hair can land you in the slammer, I give an update on my 175-mile lap around Denver, and the triple crown of dog breeds.

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Interview with Katie Manno
Katie's Practice
Time stamps & Questions

00:04:40 - Reminders: The Trek is hiring a full-time marketing position! Get notified by subscribing to the newsletter. We’re going to Austin and support us on Patreon!

00:08:55 - Introducing Katie

00:09:50 - When did you know you wanted to be a doctor and dermatologist?

00:12:30 - Do you analyze people’s skin when you’re talking to them in the real world?

00:13:40 - What are the risks and consequences of not taking sun protection seriously?

00:15:15 - How does your skin color impact how careful you need to be with sun exposure?

00:17:32 - Can you totally eliminate your risk of skin cancer?

00:18:20 - Is avoiding a sunburn enough?

00:20:10 - What’s the perception of spray tans from the dermatology perspective?

00:21:01 - Is there any reason to be skeptical about the chemicals in sunscreen?

00:25:18 - Do you avoid any chemical sunscreens?

00:26:58 - Discussion about Elta MD and chemical vs. physical sunscreens

00:30:18 - What sunscreen would you recommend to backpackers?

00:32:23 - Is it true that above an SPF it’s all the same?

00:35:35 - Do you have a preference between sun protective clothing and sunscreen?

00:37:16 - Does body hair protect against sun damage?

00:38:42 - Is something being covered by clothing enough protection?

00:40:30 - Discussion about SPF and UPF ratings

00:42:30 - What are the main factors that determine the UPF rating?

00:44:14 - If someone applies sunscreen perfectly, do they need protective clothing?

00:45:10 - What would you send out a new PCT hiker out with?

00:46:34 - Walk us through what the various types of skin cancer

00:51:12 - Does sunscreen block vitamin D absorption?

00:53:19 - Is there a safe way to get vitamin D through sun exposure without sunscreen?

00:55:12 - What is the UV index?

00:57:27 - What is the correlation between vitamin levels and skin cancers?

01:01:38 - Are there other supplements we should be taking?

01:04:15 - What are the options for people who’ve had a lot of past skin damage?

01:10:44 - Do you have any favorite skin products?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Why I Always Carry a Bear Canister When Thru-Hiking by Moose Juice

QOTD: Can donated hair be used as DNA evidence in a crime?

Denver Orbital Trail Update

Triple Crown of dog breeds

One Star Trail Reviews

One Minute Gear Review

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.
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