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Today I'm joined by Sam Vander Wielen, a former lawyer who built an eight-figure creator business while recovering from brain surgery.
In this episode, we explore how Sam went from burnt-out lawyer to building a $1.6M/year digital product business with just one full-time employee.
She shares the strategy behind her evergreen funnel, the mindset shifts that helped her grow, and the systems that kept the business running after losing both of her parents.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:16 Discovering Her True Calling in Business
03:00 Frustrations with the Legal Industry
06:15 Early Signs of Entrepreneurial Spirit
08:55 Food Blog to Legal Templates Pivot
10:24 Starting with SEO and Organic Content
13:01 First Month Revenue & Early Wins
15:47 Scaling to 1.6M with One Product
17:19 âAll Roads Lead to the Email Listâ
18:42 Evergreen Webinar Funnel that Converts
21:04 Ad Strategy & Scaling Mistakes
23:29 Voice of Customer Research System
26:30 The Power of a Simple Product Suite
28:04 Navigating Brain Surgery & Caregiving
33:45 Building a Business While Grieving
38:50 Dropping Social Media & Saying No
41:27 Systems for Automation & Scrubbing
43:30 The Power of Writing a Weekly Newsletter
44:52 Book Launch: When I Start My Business Iâll Be Happy
47:10 Why âCommunity Over Competitionâ is BS
49:18 Preparing for Craft & Commerce
51:17 Whatâs Next for SamIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave us a review. We read every single one.
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Website: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Sam:
Newsletter: https://www.samvanderwielen.com/samsidebar
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samvanderwielen
Website: https://www.samvanderwielen.com
Book: When I Start My Business Iâll Be Happy â available wherever books are soldFeatured in this episode:
Ultimate Bundle: https://www.samvanderwielen.com/ultimate-bundle
Kit: https://kit.com
Melissa Griffin: https://melissagriffin.com
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Today I'm joined by Jay Singh, AI expert and founder of Casper Studios, to explore how AI is transforming both product creation and internal workflows for creators and businesses alike.
We dive deep into the future of personalized software, unlocking AI use cases for creators, and building tools with platforms like Cursor, MindStudio, and Replit.
Jay shares how creators can implement fast, practical automations to save time, boost output, and stay ahead in a rapidly changing AI landscape.
You'll learn how to identify your best automation opportunities, spin up AI-driven products from transcripts and meeting notes, and use AI to turn raw data into insight, revenue, and leverage.
Timestamps:
00:00 â Introduction
02:17 â Why AI Helps 95% of Tasksâbut Gets Used for 50%
06:12 â Creators, Voice, and the Future of AI
08:33 â Jayâs Background at Microsoft & LinkedIn
10:09 â The 3-Step Framework for AI Product Thinking
13:26 â Automating Finance, Accounting & Accuracy
18:02 â How Jayâs Agency Designs AI Workflows
20:19 â Zapier, MindStudio & Real AI Implementations
24:36 â Going From Transcript to Product Requirements in Minutes
27:11 â V0, Cursor & AI Product Design Workflows
33:07 â Kit's App Store Vision & The Future of Personalized Software
38:15 â Building AI Tools Without Knowing the Future
42:24 â AI Tools Every Creator Should Be Using
45:42 â Meeting Transcripts â LinkedIn Content
48:19 â AI-Powered Weekly Metrics Reports for Creators
51:06 â How to Spot Your Own Automation Opportunities
55:09 â Why Everyone Thinks Their Job is âSafeâ From AIIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave us a review. We read every single one.
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Website: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Jay:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaysingh
X: https://x.com/JSingh_08
Website: https://casperstudios.xyzFeatured in this episode:
MindStudio: https://mindstudio.com
Cursor: https://cursor.sh
V0: https://v0.dev
Fireflies: https://fireflies.ai
Replit: https://replit.com
Kit: https://kit.com -
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Today Iâm joined by Lars Tiger, a Norwegian music producer who makes $500,000 a yearâalmost entirely profitâworking just two hours a week from his home in the south of France.
We dive deep into the experiment that made it possible: releasing thousands of piano tracks with no marketing, using pure volume to generate income and data. Lars shares how he redefined quality, stopped chasing perfectionism, and built a flywheel that creators in any industry can apply.
Youâll learn how volume creates financial stability, how to think like a fisherman (not a perfectionist), and why quantityânot qualityâis the fastest path to mastery.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:26 Larsâ $500K/yr, 2-hour workweek model
04:12 Creating 1,000 tracks with zero marketing
08:10 Why 80% quality is enough (and often better)
14:05 The Pottery Class Experiment
17:52 From hits to stability: the math behind his model
20:21 Why Spotify only brings in 15â20% of revenue
22:30 What actually drives plays (hint: not TikTok)
25:42 Helping traditional artists embrace volume
30:38 Can this model scale to $1M+?
34:50 YouTube, repurposing, and platform expansion
39:00 Balancing freedom vs scale
46:04 Faceless creators, pen names, and creative freedom
52:02 What are you optimizing for?If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave us a review. We read every single one.
Learn more about The Nathan Barry Show: https://nathanbarry.com/show
Follow Nathan:
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Website: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Lars:
Website: https://www.larstiger.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/larstiger/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larstigerFeatured in this episode:
Larsâ Free Music Catalog Course: https://www.larstiger.com
ConvertKit: https://convertkit.com
Flywheels Course: https://nathanbarry.com/flywheels
The Personal MBA: https://personalmba.com#musicproducer #entrepreneur #songwriter
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Today Iâm joined by Tiffany Uman, a transformational coach and marketing strategist who built her multiâmillion dollar coaching business from scratch.
In this episode, Tiffany shares the four pillars behind her success, reveals how she transitioned from corporate LâOrĂ©al to launching her business during maternity leave, and outlines her proven strategies for scaling revenue and driving client transformation.
Timestamps:
00:00 â Introduction
01:27 â Tiffanyâs Four Pillars of Business Growth
03:28 â From Corporate Executive at LâOrĂ©al to Entrepreneur
06:39 â Starting a Coaching Business While on Maternity Leave
11:24 â Balancing Family & Business Growth
16:28 â Identifying and Overcoming Key Man Risk
20:19 â The Turning Point: Scaling Beyond $500K
24:14 â How to Break Past Growth Plateaus
32:00 â Diversifying Revenue Streams & Leveraging B2B
37:14 â Tiffanyâs Approach to Building a Team
41:12 â Elevating Team Members to Reduce Dependency on You
45:18 â Identifying & Overcoming Limiting Beliefs
49:02 â Using Flywheels to Create Sustainable Growth
53:17 â Leveraging AI to Streamline Operations
1:00:03 â Where to Follow Tiffany & Closing ThoughtsIf you enjoyed this episode, please like, subscribe, share, and leave a comment with your thoughts or questions for a future episode â we read every single one!
Learn more about The Nathan Barry Show: https://nathanbarry.com/show
Follow Tiffany Uman:
Website: https://tiffanyuman.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffany-uman-career-strategy-coach
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.uman
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tiffany.uman
X: https://x.com/tiffanyuman
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCQqfl93s1XEyc5pbMYoyF_gFollow Nathan:
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Website: https://nathanbarry.comFeatured in this episode:
Tiffany Uman Coaching - https://tiffanyuman.com
Andrew Huberman - https://www.youtube.com/@UC2D2CMWXMOVWx7giW1n3LIg
Ryan Holiday - The Obstacle In The Way (book) - https://ryanholiday.net/books-courses/
Deliverability Defined Podcast - https://deliverability.transistor.fm/
Lil Jon's Wellness Wednesdays - https://liljon.kit.com/newsletter
Microsoft â https://www.microsoft.com
LâOrĂ©al â https://www.loreal.com
LinkedIn Learning â https://www.linkedin.com/learning -
Today Iâm joined by Matthew Kepnes (Nomadic Matt) to break down how to turn travel into a profitable business in 2025.
Matt has spent over 15 years traveling full-time, building one of the worldâs most recognized travel brands. We discuss how travel creators can monetize effectivelyâthrough email, events, and brand dealsâwhile staying authentic.
Matt shares his five-step system for making money while traveling, from why every creator needs a website to how to sell experiences and build a loyal community.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:22 â From Budget Traveler to Travel Entrepreneur
03:06 â The Turning Point: How Matt Built His Blog
05:04 â The $75 a Day Strategy: Traveling Affordably
07:17 â Why Travel Content is Still Profitable in 2025
09:30 â The 5 Essential Steps to Making Money While Traveling
12:57 â Why Every Creator Needs a Website in 2025
15:25 â The Power of Email Lists & Webinars for Monetization
19:48 â Building Community Through Events & Tours
22:55 â The Truth About Travel Brand Deals
27:21 â Scaling a Travel Business Without Burnout
30:57 â Lessons from Attending 15 Taylor Swift Concerts
35:10 â How to Monetize a Travel Blog Without Relying on Ads
40:16 â The Best Ways to Land High-Paying Brand Deals
45:45 â Whatâs Changed in the Travel Industry Post-COVID
50:26 â The Updated Edition of How to Travel the World on $75 a Day
52:30 â Closing Thoughts: The Future of Travel Content CreationIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave us a review. We read every single one.
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Website: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Matthew:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nomadicmatt/
Website: https://www.nomadicmatt.com
X: https://x.com/nomadicmatt
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nomadicmatt/Featured in this episode:
How to Travel the World on $75 a Day: https://www.nomadicmatt.com/how-to-travel-the-world
Kit: https://kit.com
Home Exchange: https://www.homeexchange.com
Southwest Airlines: https://www.southwest.com
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Today I'm joined by Ali Schwanke for a coaching session to map out how she can add $100K in creator income to her thriving services business.
We dive deep into pricing, bundling digital products, and leveraging Aliâs existing audienceâshowing exactly how to build profitable, scalable offers without cannibalizing core services.
You'll learn our approach to identifying your best passive income opportunities, packaging your expertise into clear products, and quickly validating your idea before launching.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:13 Marketing Is Simple When Your Strategy Is Sound
03:07 Escaping Marketing Chaos
06:18 Why Most LinkedIn Outreach Fails
08:02 How Ali Built Simple Strat
10:08 Growing Her HubSpot YouTube Channel
15:59 Mapping Revenue & Audience Assets
21:11 Finding Aliâs Best Passive Income Opportunities
25:48 How to Price & Package Digital Products
38:51 Using Decoy Pricing To Boost Sales
46:39 Designing the Perfect Pilot Program
55:18 Recap & Next StepsIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave us a review. We read every single one.
Learn more about The Nathan Barry Show: https://nathanbarry.com/show
Follow Nathan:
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshow
Website: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Ali:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alischwanke
Website: https://www.alischwanke.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alischwanke/
X: https://x.com/alischwanke
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@HubSpotHacksFeatured in this episode:
Simple Strat: https://www.simplestrat.com
Marketing Deconstructed: https://marketingdeconstructed.com
HubSpot Hacks: https://youtube.com/@HubSpotHacks
Tubebuddy: https://www.tubebuddy.com
Kit: https://kit.comHighlights:
00:09 â We need to retrain how we think about marketing
01:13 â âMarketing is simple when strategy is soundâ
03:07 â Start with what already works
08:20 â From YouTube tutorials to a $2M agency
16:00 â Potential offers and decoy pricing
45:40 â Becoming the âOprah of marketingâ -
Today Iâm joined by Charli Prangley as we revisit our bold rebrand from ConvertKit to Kit - a journey of rapid change, decisive leadership, and preserving what truly matters.
In this episode, we explore how we built a new identity without starting from scratch, the lessons learned along the way, and how our internal culture has evolved as a result.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction to Branding
00:49 The Kit Rebrand Journey
01:55 Lessons Learned from Rebranding
05:11 Maintaining Brand Equity
06:39 Challenges and Successes
08:25 The Importance of Brand Strategy
12:42 Messaging and Positioning
15:33 Internal Shifts and Bold Actions
18:56 Kit's Self-Belief and Leadership
22:45 Creating Tutorials and Overcoming Roadblocks
24:51 Celebrity Endorsements and Success Stories
25:28 The Impact of a Strong Brand
31:24 Executing a Successful Rebrand
36:27 Dreaming Big and Making It Happen
39:27 Reflecting on Leadership and Growth
43:13 Final Thoughts and EncouragementIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave us a review. We read every single one.
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Website: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Charli:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/charliprangley
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliprangley
Twitter: https://twitter.com/charliprangley
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/charlimarietv
Website: https://charlimarie.com
Featured in this episode:
Kit: https://kit.com
Koto (Brand Strategy Partner): https://www.kotoagency.com
Square Black (Development Agency): https://squareblack.com
Tom Bradyâs Newsletter: https://www.tombrady.com/newsletter
Morgan Freeman: https://themorganfreeman.comHighlights:
06:03 â Churn: The Leaky Bucket Challenge
15:05 â Unpacking the 6-Step Direct Sales Flywheel
22:05 â Overcoming Migration Objections with Concierge Setups
29:21 â The Zero-to-One of Personal Branding
36:08 â Scheduling & Measurement: Locking In Daily Priorities
49:20 â Innovating Pricing Strategies for Expansion Revenue -
Today Iâm joined by Laura Sprinkle for a live coaching session on scaling her new affiliate-tracking SaaS, Rootabl, from $5,000 MRR to $25,000 MRR while maintaining the flexibility and freedom she values.
Laura has deep expertise in affiliate launches and is now shifting into the software world - facing new challenges like churn, onboarding friction, and deciding which features to build first.
We map out her next steps - from clarifying her ideal target customer and harnessing personal branding for trust, to using direct outreach as a repeatable engine for sustainable growth. Youâll learn why concierge migrations can be a secret weapon, how to choose the right community integrations, and why narrowing your audience often leads to better results.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:14 Why Creator-Led SaaS Is Harder (Yet More Rewarding)
02:39 How Laura Reached $5K MRR
07:36 Tackling Churn and Onboarding Friction
11:29 Using Personal Branding to Increase Conversions
14:55 The Direct Sales Flywheel Explained
19:48 Turning âConcierge Migrationsâ into a Competitive Advantage
30:57 Choosing Your Integrations Wisely
31:24 New Features vs. Doubling Down on Existing Ones
37:17 Reducing Churn
40:16 Narrowing Your Customer Profile for Faster Growth
45:45 Using Outreach to Drive Predictable Revenue
47:11 Introducing Tiered Pricing for Expansion
50:26 Tracking Progress & Staying Focused
51:52 The Power of Iteration in SaaS Growth
01:02:54 Closing ThoughtsIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave us a review. We read every single one.
Learn more about The Nathan Barry Show: https://nathanbarry.com/show
Follow Nathan:
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshow
Website: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Laura:
Website - https://laurasprinkle.com/
Rootabl (10% discount) - https://rootabl.com/special-offer/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/imlaurasprinkle/
Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/imlaurasprinkle/Featured in this episode:
- Rootabl: https://rootabl.com
- Kit: https://kit.com
- Mighty Networks: https://www.mightynetworks.com -
Today I'm joined by Haley from the Kit team for a Q&A where we answer your questions about building a creator business that lasts.
We explore everything from why major celebrities are suddenly launching newsletters to the practical choices creators face - like when to stay solo versus build a team, or whether to focus on high-ticket or low-ticket offers.
Plus, we share real examples from both sides of these decisions.
You'll learn how to make strategic choices that fit your goals, build sustainable systems that scale, and maintain balance while growing your business.Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
02:02 - The Truth About Working with Matthew McConaughey
05:07 - Why Everyone is Launching a Newsletter (And Should You?)
12:13 - Which Celebrities Should Start a Newsletter?
15:46 - How Do You Balance Creativity With Execution?
19:42 - Should Entrepreneurs Build a Personal Brand?
30:59 - How Do Successful Creators Prioritize Self-Care?
37:27 - High-Ticket vs. Low-Ticket Offers: Which Makes More Money?
42:31 - How Far Can You Grow as a Solo Entrepreneur?
49:00 - Are You a Creator, a Coder, or a CEO?
53:34 - Should You Focus More on Product Creation or Marketing?
57:24 - How to Stay Productive Without Burning Out
01:01:12 - How Does Nathan Get More Done Than Most People?
01:05:00 - Closing ThoughtsIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave us a review. We read every single one.
Learn more about The Nathan Barry Show: https://nathanbarry.com/show
Follow Nathan:
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshow
Website: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Haley:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/haleyjani
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haley-janicek
X: https://twitter.com/haleyjanicekFeatured in this episode:
Kit: https://kit.com
Brian Feroldi: https://www.brianferoldi.com/
Matthew McConaugheyâs Newsletter: https://lyricsoflivin.com/
Hasan Minhaj: https://www.hasanminhaj.com/
Morgan Freeman: https://www.instagram.com/morganfreeman/
Lil Jonâs Newsletter: https://liljon.kit.com/newsletter/
Tom Bradyâs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@tombrady/
Tom Bradyâs Newsletter: https://tombrady.com/
Cristiano Ronaldoâs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cristiano/
The Armchair Expert: https://armchairexpertpod.com/
Damian Lillard: https://www.instagram.com/damianlillard/
Jo Franco: https://www.instagram.com/jo_franco/
Caitlin Clark: https://www.instagram.com/caitlinclark22/
Travis Kelce: https://www.instagram.com/killatrav/
Jason Kelce: https://www.instagram.com/jason.kelce/
Kylie Kelce: https://www.instagram.com/kykelce/
Dermot Kennedy: https://www.dermotkennedy.com/
Codie Sanchez: https://codiesanchez.com/
Justin Welsh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinwelsh/
Danny Iny: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyiny/
Jed Eglington Episode: https://nathanbarry.com/60/
Sahil Bloom: https://www.sahilbloom.com/
James Clear: https://jamesclear.com/
Paperboy: https://www.paperboystudios.co/
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Today I'm joined by Isaac French for a coaching session on his next moves after turning a $2.3 million property investment into a $7 million exit, while building multiple six-figure digital revenue streams.
We map out his options - from launching a content agency and building more properties to scaling his YouTube presence - and explore how to choose between opportunities when you're optimizing for both impact and quality of life.
You'll learn our framework for evaluating opportunities, why enterprise value isn't just about tangible assets anymore, and how to grow strategically without sacrificing what matters most.Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:29 How I Sold an Airbnb Business for Millions
03:26 Email Marketing Funnel That Makes $200K/Year
07:36 Should I Start an Agency, SaaS, Real Estate Business, or Creator Business?
11:29 Starting an Agency vs Building SaaS
14:55 Evaluating Future Paths
19:48 Making Money vs Quality of Life as an Entrepreneur
30:57 Why Isaac Keeps His Business Team Small
31:24 The Truth About Starting Agencies and SaaS Businesses
37:17 Exploring New Property Ideas
40:16 The Value of a Small Property
45:45 Growing on YouTube as a Business Owner
47:11 Growing an Email Newsletter
50:26 Balancing Cash Flow and Equity
51:52 The Value of Audience and Personal Brand
01:02:54 Closing Thoughts
If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave us a review. We read every single one.
Learn more about The Nathan Barry Show: https://nathanbarry.com/show
Follow Nathan:
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshow
Website: https://nathanbarry.com
Follow Isaac:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/isaacfrench_
Website: https://www.isaacjfrench.com
X: https://twitter.com/isaacfrench_
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/isaacjfrench
Featured in this episode:
Kit: https://kit.com
Darrell Vesterfelt: https://darrellvesterfelt.com
Sean Sweeney: https://www.seandsweeney.com
New Story: https://www.newstoryhomes.org
Brett Hagler: https://www.bretthagler.com
Live Oak Lake: https://www.liveoaklake.com
Paperboy: https://www.paperboy.co
Nick Huber: https://www.instagram.com/sweatystartup
Somewhere: https://www.somewhere.com
Marshall Haas: https://www.marshallhaas.com
Sahil Bloom: https://www.sahilbloom.com
Shane Martin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-martin-micro
Lil Jon's Newsletter: https://liljon.kit.com/newsletter
Codie Sanchez: https://codiesanchez.com
Dan Martell: https://www.danmartell.com
Mark Manson: https://markmanson.net
Highlights:
10:51 The Warren Buffett Secret to Success
21:06 The Two Sides of Wealth: Cash Flow vs. Enterprise Value
24:13 Every Creator Needs to Master Taxes
30:30 Small Teams, Big Visions
31:46 The Slow Climb to SaaS Success
32:12 Building Paperboy
52:34 Idea Banking
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Today I'm joined by Laura Sprinkle, she's the founder & CEO of Rootabl and an expert in affiliate marketing and large-scale online course launches.
We dive into how high-profile online entrepreneurs execute multi-million-dollar launches, the role of affiliates in driving sales, and practical strategies for creators looking to scale their business using partnerships.
Laura shares insights from her own experience, explaining how strategic relationships, contest-driven engagement, and structured affiliate programs can outperform paid advertising. The episode is packed with actionable advice on launching, scaling, and maintaining energy throughout the process.
Timestamps:
00:00 â Introduction
01:12 - What is a Launch Manager?
02:32 - The Launch Window Strategy
03:38 - Behind-the-Scenes of Big Launches
05:24 - Why You Should Use Affiliates
09:18 - Turning a Failing Launch Around
11:17 - Best Affiliate Prizes & Incentives
15:14 - Helping Affiliates Sell More
17:02 - How to Plan an Affiliate Launch
22:30 - Beginner vs. Advanced Affiliate Programs
24:13 - Commission Structures & Trends
27:04 - The Profitable Partnerships Flywheel Explained
29:02 - Why Appreciating Affiliates Matters
32:29 â How to Activate Your Affiliates
39:08 - The Relationship Rings Model
46:14 - How to Reach Out to Potential Affiliates
50:10 - Networking & Events for Affiliate Growth
53:30 â Closing thoughts
If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave us a review. We read every single one.
Learn more about The Nathan Barry Show: https://nathanbarry.com/show
Follow Nathan:
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshow
Website: https://nathanbarry.com
Follow Laura:
Website - https://laurasprinkle.com
Rootabl - https://rootabl.com/special-offer
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/imlaurasprinkle
Linked-In - https://www.linkedin.com/in/imlaurasprinkle
Featured in this episode:
Marie Forleo's B-School (Course)- https://www.marieforleo.com/bschool
Rock Your Affiliate Program - https://laurasprinkle.com/lets-rock-together
Amy Porterfield - https://www.amyporterfield.com
Selena Soo - https://www.selenasoo.com
Rootabl (10% discount) - https://rootabl.com
Creator Flywheel's Course - https://creatorflywheels.com
Kate Northrup - https://katenorthrup.com
Chris Brogan - https://chrisbrogan.com
Highlights
07:33 â Overcoming Fear When Launching with Affiliates16:20 â Why Leading Indicators Matter
34:31 â Bigger Audiences Donât Always Mean Better Affiliates
36:45 â The Difference Between Perceived Value and Monetary Value
48:20 â Why Personal Outreach is Important
50:17 â How In-Person Events Help Build Relationships
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Today I'm joined by Darrell Vesterfelt to explore why personal brand might be the most overlooked asset for early-stage founders.
First, Darrell shows why traditional startups should borrow strategies from the creator world, sharing how he's helped companies drive sales and recruit talent through founder-led marketing. Then we dig into a step-by-step playbook for building your baseline presence - from getting your first podcast interview to crafting foundational content.
You'll learn how to develop a personal brand that supports real business goals, create content efficiently without letting it consume your time, and increase conversion rates across recruiting, sales and partnerships.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:33 Behind Mount Haley Holdings
02:29 The Stigma Around Personal Branding
03:14 The Power of Personal Branding: Practical Steps
05:47 5 Personal Branding Tips for Founders
09:05 Step 1: How to Get Interviewed on Podcasts
11:45 Step 2: Develop a Founding Story
12:24 Step 3: Setting Up Social Media Profiles
15:41 Step 4: Writing Foundational Essays
18:03 Step 5: Business Case Studies
20:38 How to Get High-Ticket Clients Through Personal Branding
25:37 Why Keep Investing in Personal Brand at $40M ARR
29:21 How to Attract Top Talent with Personal Branding
33:02 Using Personal Brand to Build Company Culture
38:40 Personal Branding Within Teams
41:59 How to Create Educational Content That Sells
53:17 Turning Personal Brand into Marketing ROI
57:30 Building Community Around Your Business
01:03:20 How to Systematize Content Creation
01:06:22 Closing Thoughts
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Follow Darrell:
Website: https://darrellvesterfelt.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dvest
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrellvesterfelt
X: https://twitter.com/dvest
Featured in this episode:
Mount Haley Holdings: https://www.mounthaley.com
Good People Digital: https://mygoodpeople.com
Boomtown: https://boomtowngrowth.com
HubSpot: https://www.hubspot.com
Mighty Networks: https://www.mightynetworks.com
Charli (Kit Creative Director): https://www.charlimarie.com
Deliverability Podcast: https://deliverability.transistor.fm
Webflow: https://www.webflow.com
Framer: https://www.framer.com
Hampton: https://www.joinhampton.com
Sam Parr: https://www.linkedin.com/in/parrsam
Leadpages: https://www.leadpages.com
Cast Magic: https://www.castmagic.io
Jason Lemkin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmlemkin
Highlights:
02:19 Personal Branding: The Silicon Valley Stigma
14:46 Social Media Audit Checklist for Founders
25:59 Why I'm Still Building My Personal Brand at $40M ARR
29:21 Using Personal Brand to Improve Hiring
34:41 How Kit Creates Internal Content
38:37 Team Personal Branding Strategy
57:24 Kit Building an Online Business Community
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Today I'm joined by Gina Bianchini, founder of Mighty Networks, to discuss what her data shows makes online communities succeed or fail.
Gina shares her frameworks for creating engagement between members and reveals the one metric that predicts a community's success with 93% accuracy. We dive into specific strategies around transitions, monthly themes, and daily engagement that keep members active.
You'll learn how to build genuine connections between members, identify the right people to seed your community, and create lasting value that has members sticking around long-term.
Timestamps:
00:00 Building Your Own Community
01:20 Signs Your Community Will Fail
05:04 How to Make Money from Your Community
07:05 Turning Around a Dying Community
08:24 The Role of Network Effects
09:19 Creating Member Engagement
14:47 Creating Community Engagement with Monthly Themes
20:07 How to Use Polls to Drive Community Interaction
24:36 Facebook Groups vs Dedicated Community Platforms
32:23 What is People Magic and Why It Matters
36:35 Creators Defining Their Own Terms
38:44 Positioning Your Community: Force of Choice vs Comparison
40:59 Building Long-Term Community Success
45:13 Using Nominations to Grow a Paid Community
50:42 When to Revive vs Restart a Community
53:23 How Member Connections Drive Growth
01:06:41 Closing Thoughts
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Follow Gina:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginabianchini
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Featured in this episode:
Mighty Networks: https://www.mightynetworks.com
Christopher Lochhead: https://lochhead.com
Eddie Yoon: https://www.eddiewouldgrow.com
Mastermind Talks: https://www.mmt.community
Creator Flywheels: https://creatorflywheels.com
Highlights:
06:19 The Problem of Churn in Communities
44:38 The 70/30 Rule for Community Growth
01:00:22 Mighty Networks + Kit Collaboration
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In this episode, Justin Moore reveals how he built a $600,000 annual business from sponsorship coaching.
Justin walks me through his business - from the on-demand course and audit tool that bring in new clients, to his high-touch coaching program that transforms how creators approach brand deals. Then I help him map out a path to $2 million in revenue by leveraging his upcoming book and optimizing his funnel.
You'll learn about growing through referrals, using smart tools to attract ideal clients, and finding the balance between aggressive growth and keeping what works.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:13 Revenue Growth: From $88K to $600K+
05:33 Building an Effective Marketing Funnel
09:01 Newsletter Growth Strategy
18:30 Creating Tools That Convert
22:12 How to Prioritize Tasks as a Creator
23:51 Transitioning from Side Project to Real Business
28:29 Setting Work-Life Balance Goals as a Creator
29:41 Using a Book to Scale Your Business
31:17 Will Writing a Book Hurt Your Business?
33:11 How to Package and Position a Book
35:25 Why Word of Mouth Matters for Books
39:39 Optimizing Your Revenue Streams
43:33 Top of Funnel Marketing Strategies that Work
01:00:12 Closing Thoughts
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Website: https://nathanbarry.com
Follow Justin:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/creatorwizard
Website: https://www.creatorwizard.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@creatorwizard
X: https://twitter.com/justinmooretfam
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinnmoore
Featured in this episode:
Sponsor Magnet (Book): https://www.sponsormagnet.com
Morning Brew: https://www.morningbrew.com
Spark Loop: https://www.sparkloop.app
Creator Network: https://creatornetwork.kit.com
Pat Flynn: https://www.patflynn.com
Jay Clouse: https://creatorscience.com
Atomic Habits (Book): https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits
Dan Martell: https://www.danmartell.com
Buy Back Your Time (Book): https://www.buybackyourtime.com
Tiago Forte's Essay: https://fortelabs.com/blog/the-financial-reality-of-a-traditionally-published-book-a-complete-breakdown
Bonnie Christine: https://www.bonniechristine.com
Darrell Vesterfelt: https://darrellvesterfelt.com
Brian Harris (Growth Tools): https://growthtools.com
HubSpot: https://www.hubspot.com
Buffer: https://www.buffer.com
Creator Flywheels Course: https://creatorflywheels.com
Highlights:
16:31 How to Make Money Online
19:55 Why Tools Are Great Lead Magnets
23:11 Time Management Tips for Creators
25:49 Getting Past Startup Trauma as a Creator
33:10 The Strategy Behind Successful Book Launches
48:45 Choosing Between Multiple Products vs One Focus
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Today I'm joined by Jed Eglington to explore an overlooked path to becoming a successful full-time creator.
Jed shares his journey from in-house creator to successful business owner, outlining how to develop video, storytelling and production skills that companies actually value. He breaks down what businesses look for when hiring creators and how to position yourself for these opportunities.
Learn how to master the essential skills, create a compelling portfolio, and transition from creator to founder by building products your audience wants.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:06 Misconceptions About the Creator Economy
02:03 Mapping Out Creator Career Paths
02:21 The Role of In-House Creators
06:57 Essential Skills You Need as a Creator
09:01 Learning Video Editing as a Beginner
11:20 Storytelling Tips for Content Creators
13:32 Being Confident On Camera
17:38 How to Find the Right Company to Work For
24:35 Analyzing Video Formats
25:21 How to Get Companies to Notice Your Work
28:20 Making It Easy to Say Yes
30:17 Guide to Going from Creator to Founder
31:51 Building an Audience While Working Full-Time
40:05 How to Grow Your email List
47:20 Closing Thoughts
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Follow Jed:
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@creatorjed
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/creatorjed
Website: https://www.creatorroom.com
Featured in this episode:
Dan Go: https://www.instagram.com/danfounder
Justin Welsh: https://www.justinwelsh.me
Amy Porterfield: https://www.amyporterfield.com
HiSmile: https://hismileteeth.com
Kit: https://www.kit.com
Gary Vee: https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com
D Rock: https://www.instagram.com/drock
Charli Prangley: https://charlimarie.com
Tim Urban (Wait But Why): https://www.waitbutwhy.com
Ugmonk (Jeff Sheldon): https://www.ugmonk.com
Peter McKinnon: https://www.youtube.com/@petermckinnon
Ali Abdaal: https://www.youtube.com/@aliabdaal
Casey Neistat: https://www.youtube.com/@casey
Karen X Cheng: https://www.instagram.com/karenxcheng
Donald Miller (StoryBrand): https://www.storybrand.com
Codie Sanchez: https://codiesanchez.com
Nick Huber: https://www.instagram.com/sweatystartup
Highlights:
04:49 The Rise of the In-House Creator
09:58 Learning More by Copying Others
11:27 The Blueprint for Book Titles
13:51 Why a Guiding Principle Matters
23:48 Documenting Video Performance
26:24 How to Get Your Work Seen by the Right Companies
32:29 How CEOs Should Approach Employees Building Their Own Audiences
38:37 Turning a Crowd into a True Audience
41:49 When Are You Sending Too Many Emails?
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In this episode, Isaac French shares how he grew from 5,000 Instagram followers to selling his Texas micro resort for $7 million, just 18 months after opening.
Isaac reveals his strategy for leveraging online audiences to support hospitality projects - converting social media followers into guests, email subscribers into customers, and content into major media coverage. He details his journey from restoring a historic train car in Idaho to creating destination properties that attract visitors from 40 states.
Learn his methods for crafting viral stories, building valuable email lists, and why combining online influence with physical experiences creates exponential results.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:10 Building Family Businesses
10:58 Airbnb Account Suspension
12:20 Growing from 5K to 150K Followers in 15 Months
22:24 How to Combine Online Marketing with Physical Business
26:29 Using Design to Stand Out in Business
33:05 Business Lessons from Steve Jobs and Apple
40:50 How One Twitter Thread Got 20M Views
44:00 The Art of Writing Viral Content
48:14 Best Practices for Reposting Content
49:13 How to Convert Social Media Followers to Email Subscribers
51:31 Creating Successful Short Form Video Content
56:01 Why Transparency Builds Trust
01:00:17 Using Content Creation to Fund Business Growth
01:07:59 Closing Thoughts
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Website: https://nathanbarry.com
Follow Isaac:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/isaacfrench_
Website: https://www.isaacjfrench.com
X: https://twitter.com/isaacfrench_
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/isaacjfrench
Featured in this episode:
Live Oak Lake: https://liveoaklake.com
Hans Lorei: https://www.instagram.com/hansloreidesign
Sam Parr: https://twitter.com/theSamParr
James Clear: https://jamesclear.com
Al Doan: https://twitter.com/drbillnye
Brent Underwood: https://twitter.com/underwoodbrent
The Cliffs at Hocking Hills: https://thecliffs.house
Highlights:
01:17 The Motel Patel Cartel
13:27 Creators on a Journey
29:46 Power of Good Taste
35:13 Lord of the Rings Quality Anecdote
46:10 How Nick Huber Engineers Viral Tweets
52:54 Getting a Deal Done with a Non-Monetary Value
01:00:16 Digital/Physical World Flywheel
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In this episode, Haley Janicek from the Kit team joins me for our new Q&A format to explore building community, creating content, and growing your business in the creator economy.
First, we explore the power of in-person connections through our experiences with Kit Studios and Craft + Commerce, discussing how community accelerates growth. Then we tackle your questions about AI in content creation, balancing revenue streams, and transitioning to full-time creation.
You'll learn practical strategies for building your minimum viable brand, leveraging AI tools authentically, and creating sustainable growth - whether you're starting out or scaling up your creator business.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:33 Behind the Scenes at Kit with Haley Janicek
02:26 Building Kit Studios: From Idea to Reality in 27 Days
08:11 Kit Studios Expansion: New Location Coming in February
08:47 Why In-Person Creator Communities Matter
10:36 What Creators Can Learn from Taylor Swift's Success
13:19 How Events Transform Creator Businesses
18:40 Inside Craft and Commerce: The Creator Conference
19:47 The Strategic Selfie Method for Networking
23:09 Why In-Person Events Beat Online Networking
24:56 Craft & Commerce 2025: Event Details
27:35 Starting the Q&A Session
28:18 Using AI for Authentic Content Creation
32:28 Where the Creator Economy is Heading in 2025
33:48 How to Choose the Right Business Strategy
35:11 Preventing Creator Burnout While Growing
36:41 Growing a Creator Business with a Full-Time Job
39:07 Transitioning from Expert to Full-Time Creator
43:21 Balancing Profit with Positive Impact
45:58 The Journey to Building a $43M Company
48:49 Closing Thoughts
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Website: https://nathanbarry.com
Follow Haley:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/haleyjani
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haley-janicek
X: https://twitter.com/haleyjanicek
Featured in this episode:
Kit: https://kit.com
Craft and Commerce: https://conference.kit.com
FinCon: https://finconexpo.com
Tim Grahl: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timgrahl
Eras Tour: https://www.taylorswift.com/events
Village Impact: https://villageimpact.com
Jen Hatmaker: https://jenhatmaker.com
Mom 2.0: https://mom2summit.com
John Meese: https://johnmeese.com
Sahil Bloom: https://sahilbloom.com
Michael Hyatt: https://michaelhyatt.com
Amy Porterfield: https://www.amyporterfield.com
James Clear: https://jamesclear.com
Kirsten Grove: https://www.instagram.com/simplygrove
Happy Happy Houseplant: https://happyhappyhouseplant.com
ChatGPT: https://www.openai.com/chatgpt
Claude: https://www.anthropic.com
Google Notebook LM: https://notebooklm.google
Highlights:
11:23 Taylor Swift as a Creator
14:23 The Value of Community
26:40 Craft & Commerce
29:39 Navigating AI Tools as a Creator
35:53 Creator Flywheels
39:21 Personal Branding Advice
46:24 Starting a Creator Business
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Today I'm joined by Corina Holden, who turned her fashion blog into a $375,000/year business with a mix of digital products, subscription software, and a proven system that helps women build confident wardrobes.
Corina breaks down how she built multiple revenue streams through Meta ads, Pinterest, and automated systems - sharing how she's grown with 35% profit margins while raising five kids.
Then I work with her to map out a path to $250K in take-home pay with less hands-on time, transitioning from her current 15-20 hour workweeks to a more automated business that can run while she's away.
You'll get both tactical marketing insights and high-level strategy: from testing ad creative and leveraging Pinterest to creating Creator Flywheels that let you scale without sacrificing family time or freedom.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:16 How to Build a $2 Million Creator Business
02:39 Finding Your Customer Pain Points
03:55 Starting a Blog That Makes Money
05:21 First Digital Product Launch
06:51 Meta Ads Strategy for Digital Products
15:26 Email Welcome Sequence Strategy
24:06 Creator Business Revenue Growth Analysis
31:56 Building Recurring Revenue with Software
35:36 Balancing Business Growth with Family Life
36:09 Setting Profit Margin Goals
37:07 SaaS Product Customer Analysis
38:50 Digital Products vs Software Revenue Models
39:33 Growing Software Sales as a Creator
40:50 How to Simplify Subscription Pricing
46:44 Business Partnership Strategy for Creators
49:20 Pinterest Marketing Strategy
51:15 Creating High-Quality Blog Content
52:34 Building a Pinterest Marketing System
57:20 Scaling Meta Ads Successfully
58:01 Niche vs Broad Market Strategy
01:04:51 Closing Thoughts
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Follow Corina:
X: https://twitter.com/nowthaticando
Website: https://nowthaticando.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/frumpfighters
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nowthaticando
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/frumpfighters
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corinaholden
Featured in this episode:
Frump Fighters: https://www.frumpfighters.com
Todd Herman (90 Day Year): https://www.toddherman.com
Kit: https://www.kit.com
E-Myth Revisited (Book): https://www.emyth.com
Highlights:
02:00 Teaching High-Value Skills and Niche Pursuits
05:21 The Power of Leverage
58:35 Scaling Strategies
01:02:15 Decision-Making Frameworks
01:07:31 Corina's Flywheel
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Today, I have a slightly different episode for you. Iâm joining Tiago Forte on stage at his Second Brain Summit to discuss all things creator economy and audience monetization.
I reveal my top strategies for starting out as a creator, how to grow the right audience, and how to monetize that audience.
Tiago and I also take some of your questions from our audience, so thereâs definitely something in this episode for everyone. I hope you find this episode valuable and inspiring.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:28 Building a Meaningful Audience
03:23 The Power of a Niche Audience
04:02 Insights from Successful Creators
07:35 Monetizing Attention
09:45 Challenges and Strategies for Creators
12:33 How Celebrities Are Monetizing Attention
19:16 The Business Of Being a Creator & Email Lists
22:35 What IS A Creator?
26:58 Overcoming Plateaus in Growth
29:10 Balancing External and Internal Focus in Business
31:34 Advice for Beginner Creators
33:49 The 90-9-1 Rule: From Consumer to Creator
41:45 Choosing the Right Platform for Your Content
51:08 The Four C's Framework
53:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Follow Tiago:
Website: https://fortelabs.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TiagoForte
Twitter: https://x.com/fortelabs
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiagoforte
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fortelabsco
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fortelabs
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Website: https://nathanbarry.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshow
Featured in this episode:
Kit: https://kit.com
Missouri Quilt Company: https://www.missouriquiltco.com
Lex: https://lex.page
Theory Of Constraints: https://fortelabs.com/blog/theory-of-constraints-101
Highlights:
04:10 Creator Economy Has a Thriving Middle Class
09:51 Turning Attention into Equity
14:58 Creators as Entrepreneurs
26:51 Breaking Growth Myths
32:55 Nathan's 90-9-1 Rule for Sharing and Monetizing Knowledge
43:32 Refining Ideas
46:45 Finding Your Niche
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Today Iâm joined by Mark Manson, author of 'The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck', shares his journey from broke blogger to selling over 16 million copies of his best-selling book.
In this episode, Mark reveals how he's navigating the creator economy - from managing traditional media during the pandemic to launching ambitious new projects in documentary-style video and interactive self-help courses.
You'll learn how to build multiple revenue streams while staying true to your creative vision, plus get a behind-the-scenes look at his collaboration with Will Smith.
Timestamps:
00:00 Mark Manson on Building a $17M Book Business
01:10 How Mark Manson Started Blogging in 2007
03:22 How Facebook's News Feed Led to Millions of Readers
05:42 From Blogger to Bestselling Author: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fck Journey
15:43 Why Mark Manson Left Hollywood After His Movie Deal
17:53 Why Mark Manson Switched from Writing to YouTube
19:57 Mark Manson's Current Business Revenue Breakdown
21:32 Creator Sponsorships and Brand Deals
37:04 Building an Online Course and Community Platform
38:52 Investing Book Money into Creator Business
40:01 Timeline for Launching an Online Course in 2024
49:13 Planning Creator Business Revenue Strategy
50:37 Why YouTube Will Replace Television
52:55 Creating High Production Value YouTube Content
56:11 MrBeast's Business Model and Organization Issues
01:04:25 Behind the Scenes of Writing Will Smith's Biography
01:08:10 Closing Thoughts
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Follow Mark:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markmanson/
X: https://twitter.com/iammarkmanson/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IAmMarkManson/
Website: https://markmanson.net/
Featured in this episode:
Mark Manson: https://markmanson.net/
The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck (Book): https://markmanson.net/books/subtle-art/
Universal Studios: https://www.universalstudios.com/
MrBeast: https://www.youtube.com/@MrBeast/
Casey Neistat: https://www.youtube.com/@casey/
Four Hour Work Week (Book): https://tim.blog/tim-ferriss-books/#the-4-hour-workweek/
Harper Collins: https://www.harpercollins.com/
Will Smith: https://www.instagram.com/willsmith/
Andrew Schulz: https://www.theandrewschulz.com/
Highlights:
12:13 Authors and Fame
38:14 Setting Clear Constraints
39:48 Launch Fast, Then Perfect
56:13 Building Connected Content Channels
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