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  • Ever wondered what it takes to unravel the mysteries of wildfires?
    Join us as we ignite conversations with two leading lights in fire investigation: Rhodri Jones from the Greater Manchester Fire Service and Richard Woods from Australia.

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    They share breathtaking accounts from their time on the frontlines—Rhodri from the blazing 2018 Manchester wildfires and Richard's transition from policing to fire investigation.

    Their combined expertise sheds light on the complex world of fire origins, the myths surrounding common causes, and the emotional weight these flames carry when they lead to tragedy.

    As we tackle the intricate process of wildfire investigation, Richard debunks the overstated role of cigarettes in igniting these disasters and emphasizes the meticulous nature of determining the true causes, which often point to arson—a crime that requires both fire services and law enforcement to join forces.

    Delving into the necessity for specialized training, our guests envision a future where precision in investigations leads to justice and prevention. They also discuss the layered training courses that equip responders with the tools needed for thorough assessments, and the collaborative efforts that make solving these perplexing cases possible.

    Wrapping up, we don't shy away from the darker side of firefighting—the troubling trend of heroism-driven arson within the ranks.

    Reflecting on the broader implications of these acts, including the potential threat of pyroterrorism, our discourse extends to the importance of a global, unified approach to wildfire management. Walk away informed, inspired, and ready to engage with resources like the Wildfire Arson Prevention Guide, as our guests advocate for the shared mission to understand, prevent, and solve the enigma of wildfires.

  • Embark on an enthralling journey with Dai Hancock, a fire investigation virtuoso whose career spans the escapades aboard fire trucks in West Wales to the meticulous rigor of leading a fire investigation team.
    Our latest episode invites you to peer into the world of fire service, where Dai shares his transformative path, merging the adrenaline of frontline firefighting with the intricate challenges of statistical reporting and pioneering work in adopting the ISO 17-020 standard.

    As we navigate the intersection of fire service training with emerging technologies, Dai illuminates the innovative use of virtual reality in crafting realistic training scenarios. These digital simulations provide a sustainable and effective avenue for honing the skills of investigators, blending the virtual with essential hands-on experience. This episode peeks into the practical hurdles and triumphs of this blended training approach, weighing the advantages of immersive VR against the vital tactile nuances that only real-world practice can impart.

    Confronting the broader spectrum of challenges faced by the fire investigation community, we unravel the complexities of maintaining expertise amidst high turnover and leadership changes.
    The episode probes into the diverse career dynamics within fire rescue services and policing, the evolving landscape of CSI practices, and the far-reaching impact of political decision-making on service delivery.
    We also spotlight the crucial role of professional associations in fostering a thriving ecosystem for knowledge exchange, as Dai reflects on his transition from public service to the helm of his consultancy, 133 Limited, and his strategic involvement in shaping the future contours of fire investigation training.

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  • Have you ever peered into the charred remnants of a fire scene and pondered what secrets lie beneath the ash?

    Fire investigator Martin Lown joins us to uncover these mysteries and shares the tapestry of his career, revealing the pivotal moments that shaped his path from an outdoor enthusiast to a Fire Investigator.

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    Discover the trials and triumphs of ascending from a tier one investigator to a specialized tier two, as Martin recounts the continuous learning and innovative strategies that are essential in this complex and ever-changing field.

    Venture into the labyrinth of UK fire investigations with us as Martin demystifies the National Fire Chiefs Council's competency framework, highlighting the stark contrasts between routine and high-stake investigations.

    The conversation illuminates the multi-faceted collaboration between fire investigators, police, and other agencies, all woven together by the stringent standards of ISO 17020 to ensure integrity in the courtrooms.

    Technology and expertise stand at the forefront of modern fire investigations, and our dialogue with Martin explores both. He shares his experiences with groundbreaking advancements, from 3D scanning to photogrammetry, that have revolutionized the way evidence is collected and presented.

    But it's not all about the tech; the emotional weight carried by investigators also takes center stage. Mike and Martin open up about the psychological toll of the job and the importance of mental health support systems, painting a vivid picture of the resilience needed to navigate the aftermath of fire.

    Join us as we step into the heat with Martin, and shine a light on yet another dedicated individual who sifts through the ashes to uncover the truth.

  • When I sat down with fire investigation expert John Lord, something became urgently clear: the invisible health risks to all professions dealing with the ramifications of a fire scene is a critical message and one that should be disseminated far and wide.!!!

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    This week on CSI on Fire, John, with his 32 years on the front lines of the Lancashire County Fire Brigade and his groundbreaking work with SIMTRAIN UK Limited, opens up about the unseen dangers lurking in the smoke and fire debris.

    Our conversation swivels from advancements in simulation software for fire safety training to the sobering reality of cancer risks that haunt our heroes in the aftermath of extinguishing blazes.

    As we peel back the layers of John's work, the severity of the health risks our firefighters face comes to the fore.

    These risks aren't just statistics; they are personal, painful stories of our friends and colleagues, some of whom have faced life-altering diagnoses. John's voice along with his personal and family battles against cancer lends gravity to our discussion, spotlighting the need for improved personal protective equipment and difficult and ongoing accounts from the front lines.

    We're talk about sweat-soaked gear, toxin accumulation, and a culture that's had to cope with DNA preservation and proactive decontamination practices to p[portect our own cells within our bodies.
    It's a candid look at the physical and emotional toll that comes with the territory, and the poignant reminder that seeking both medical and mental health support is as vital as donning a helmet.

    Wrapping up our intense journey with John, the narrative turns towards hope and action. We're not just here to share stories but to ignite awareness and champion change within the firefighting community.

    From the practical steps firefighters and investigators from all backgrounds can take to minimize their risks to the shared responsibility we all hold in supporting each other, it's a call-to-arms for vigilance in the face of occupational hazards.

    So PLEASE PLEASE Listen, and take away vital knowledge that could make all the difference and literally save your life.

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  • Discover the crucial interplay between aesthetics and safety as fire engineering expert Matt Bonner from Trigon Fire Safety joins me, to dissect the essential components of fire safety in modern building facades.
    Matt brings his extensive research experience into the spotlight, revealing the science behind designing structures that not only look good but that should protect lives.
    Our conversation navigates the precarious balance between design requirements and stringent safety, with eye-opening insights into how the Grenfell Tower tragedy has reshaped our understanding of fire risks in facade systems.

    Venture beyond the superficial allure of building designs as we scrutinize the often-overlooked implications of cladding materials on fire safety and compartmentation strategies. Matt and I delve into the nuanced definitions of combustibility and flammability, discussing how the ambition for insulation and aesthetic enhancement can inadvertently cast a shadow on the paramount importance of fire safety. This episode peels back the layers of complexity surrounding material testing and systemic failures, illuminating the stark reality of how design decisions can have profound effects on the well-being of building occupants.

    Concluding our exploration, we shift gears toward the front lines of fire hazard assessment and prevention. Pioneering techniques for visual analysis in fire investigations are discussed, coupled with sage advice for fire investigators aiming to hone their skills. I share invaluable resources for anyone passionate about fire protection, emphasizing the transformative impact of fire-rated materials in emergency scenarios. So, tune in for a masterclass where the lines between innovation, safety, and the human element in building design converge in a quest for a safer future.

    https://doi.org/10.25560/91502 A review of facade fire safety: https://doi.org/10.21022/IJHRB.2018.7.4.363 Visual fire power: https://doi.org/10.1007/s10694-022-01341-z An introduction to fire engineering course with Guillermo Rein: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRCb4pH3hx0sJPdgVD3sDPChFv8gAdGEK&si=maDPKk84IBzi9cSw A list of facade fires 1990-2020: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.3743863

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  • Ever wondered how a mechanical engineering draftsman's career ignited into one of the UK's most respected fire investigation expert's ?

    Dr. Peter Mansi joins us to fan the flames of curiosity, recounting his serendipitous shift into the London Fire Brigade and far far beyond.

    The labyrinth of fire investigation unfolds as Pete imparts his wisdom on building construction and fire dynamics, while my own backstory of joining the police force to becoming a plumbing and heating engineer serves as a testament to life's unpredictable yet fulfilling turns. Together with his wife Claire, Pete navigated the creation of a centralized fire investigation unit within the LFB, and the set up of the UK-AFI marking a transformative era.

    As the podcast unfolds, we don't just walk through the smoke – we harness technology and strategy to clear the air.
    Pete's Ph.D. research and resulting decision trees and the meticulous development of the Firm's App are riveting revelations, transforming how we systematically approach and document our findings on the fire ground.

    These innovations are not standalone triumphs; they underscore the paramount importance of Peters international collaboration, as Peters global endeavors to establish fire investigation chapters from the Nordic Chapter to the African regions unfold. With every shared experience, the episode illuminates the interconnected world of the fire investigation profession.

    Finally, we stoke the fires of professional growth and integrity, to the historic resonance of the Great Fire of London and Liveryman status.

    Our candid discussions underscore the perennial importance of continuous learning, both for seasoned experts and for those just beginning to feel the warmth of their investigative careers.

    Embrace this episode as a beacon, guiding you through the heat and the heart of fire investigation, where every shared story and imparted lesson fuels our collective pursuit of truth and expertise.

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  • Unlock the secrets of forensic archaeology and fire investigation as we sit down with Dr. Mary Jane Harding.
    MJ’s journey from an anthropology lecture that fired up her passion to becoming an authority in human remains recovery from fire sites is a testament to the power of persistence and the importance of precise excavation and evidence recovery.

    You're in for a fascinating and enlightening discussion on how the Harris Matrix revolutionizes our understanding of chaotic fire scenes, and why the guidance of seasoned mentors like Dave Geddes and Dr. Karl Harrison is invaluable in this meticulous field.

    Learn how cadavers donated to science contribute to debunking myths, enhancing investigative methods and correct miscarriages of justice. Dr. Harding discusses how FI's and CSI's can make sense of the complexities surrounding fire deaths.
    From the resilience of teeth to the nuances of identifying burnt remains in various scenarios, we provide essential know-how that will elevate the expertise of any Fire and Crime scene investigator facing the aftermath of fire.

    Finally, join us as we dissect fire dynamics, burn patterns, and their effects on the human body, unpacking phenomena such as spontaneous human combustion and how fire can mimic trauma.

    MJ imparts wisdom from her consultancy work and her time teaching fire modules at Cranfield University and Alecto Forensics, emphasizing the vital need for humility in the face of ever-expanding knowledge.

    This episode is not just a trove of forensic insights—it's a reminder of the relentless pursuit of truth in the wake of the flames.

  • When the peace of an ordinary Sunday in Leicester was shattered by the deafening sound of an explosion, seasoned fire investigator Andy Quine was catapulted into a case that would test every fiber of his professional acumen.

    In a candid conversation, Andy walks the listener through the devastating Hinckley Road incident and the meticulous process of unraveling the truth.

    Switching from a public servant's uniform to the suit of a private sector expert can be as complex as the fires he once extinguished. Andy reflects on his own transition to GBB, part of the Davies Group, scrutinizing the nuances that lie between public service and corporate responsibility. Our dialogue illuminates the trend of public sector fire investigators pursuing further education, like the UCLan program, to stoke the flames of their expertise in this niche but critical field.

    Featuring a tapestry of stories that blend science with the human touch, this episode takes you through the persistence of petrol on washed clothing as uncovered by canine assets and gas chromatography-mass spectrometry, and the communal ripple effect of the Hinckley Road explosion.

    We honor the dedication required in fire investigation, the collaborative spirit between public and private entities, and the ceaseless pursuit of accuracy for the sake of those affected by such tragedies.

  • Discover the world of fire safety with NFPA's Ken Burson, a man whose career has blazed a trail through emergency operations and international fire prevention standards. This episode is a deep dive into the evolution of fire codes, born from the embers of tragedy, and the stringent measures now in place to prevent disasters in public venues like nightclubs.

    Ken's transformation from volunteer firefighter to a seasoned NFPA authority brings a unique perspective on how fire protection standards are developed and their sweeping global influence.

    We sift through the ashes of misconception around NFPA 921, shining a light on its true nature as a guide and its symbiotic relationship with NFPA 1033's qualifications for fire investigators.

    Ken articulates the pivotal role these documents play in courtroom credibility and how the NFPA ensures their standards evolve through a comprehensive, worldwide feedback process. Our conversation also illuminates the essential building blocks of fire safety codes, with a nod to the fundamental importance of NFPA 1 and 101.

    Wrapping up our enlightening session, we explore NFPA certifications, the collaborative efforts with organizations such as NIST, and introduce NFPA Link—a digital tool that's transforming access to vital codes and standards.

    We also give an exclusive peek at NFPA's future training programs and certifications, designed to revolutionize fire safety application on a global stage. For professionals and enthusiasts alike, this episode is a must-listen, packed with insights on the meticulous work behind preserving life and property from the threat of fire.

  • This week we chat to Richard Dunbar, a veteran in fire investigation with an exceptionally diverse background, who is one of the worlds leading Electrical Vehicle Fire Investigators. (My words not his!)

    We delve into the specific skillset, knowledge and training required for effective investigations of both ICE and Electric vehicle fires, and how the ever-advancing lithium battery technology impacts the safety protocols that Richard and his colleagues tirelessly advocate for.
    We chat about some of the upcoming courses in 2024 run by him and his colleagues.
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    Richard's journey is not just one of bravery and dedication but also of an unquenchable thirst for knowledge, having delved into psychology and leadership on top of his formidable skills in firefighting and law enforcement. In today's episode, we navigate the pivotal moments that shaped Richard's career, from an eye-opening incident at a road crash fire to his foray into the complex world of vehicle fire investigations, and in particular the courses he runs on ICE and electrical Vehicle fires where technology and technique evolve at a breakneck pace.

    As we peel back the skillset and knowledge of what it takes to become a leading figure in this niche field, Richard shares his insights into the meticulous world of vehicle fire investigation courses and the pivotal role of health and safety and sharing knowledge. You'll get a front-row seat to the discussions about the rigors of training, the camaraderie of the fire service, and the importance of staying active and connected.

    In a field where the stakes are always high, Richard doesn't shy away from discussing the burgeoning challenges facing fire investigators today. As electric and hybrid vehicles continue to transform our roads, Richard lends his expertise on the pressing issues from thermal runaway scenarios to the implications of lithium battery safety.

    This episode is a compelling blend of personal anecdotes, expert insights, and a forward-looking perspective on a field that balances on the cutting edge of safety and technology.

  • Sit in with us with one of Denver's very own fire investigator, Hayden Fetter.
    In a captivating exchange, Hayden reveals the intricate path from mechanical engineering to the exhilarating field of fire investigation. With a number of credentials under his belt, including the esteemed Fire Investigation Technician (FIT) and working towards being a Certified Fire and Explosion Investigator, our guest showcases the importance of continuous learning and hands-on experience. More than just a list of qualifications, Hayden's story is a testament to the power of curiosity and the endless pursuit of knowledge, aiming for the North American revered status of a licensed Professional Engineer.

    This episode ignites a deeper understanding of the scientific rigor behind fire investigation, exploring the innovative world of forensic visualization that breathes life into otherwise perplexing legal quandaries. We delve into the precision of dimensionally accurate animations and the immersive realm of virtual reality models. The crucial role of the scientific method and NFPA 921 is illuminated, reinforcing the art of hypothesis testing to prevent tunnel vision and confirmation bias. Through anecdotes, we underscore the relentless quest to extinguish all uncertainties and expose the genuine cause of a fire.

    Finally, we highlight the expertise that is forensic investigation, emphasizing the indispensable value of a multi-disciplinary approach. Sharing insights from my own fire investigations, we discuss the collaboration between material scientists, forensic experts, and the broader support team. The narrative weaves through the intricacies of peer reviews and the potency of networking, culminating in the shared wisdom that every fire-related incident is a puzzle requiring the collective intellect to unravel. Tune in to this episode for a rich tapestry of skills, stories, and the shared pursuit of truth in the ashes of fire investigation.

  • Have you ever stood on the ashes of a scene, the air tinged with the scent of smoke, and wondered about the story the char can tell you ? That curiosity is at the heart of our latest guest, Lucy Pinkard , whose own tale winds through forensic science classrooms, the gritty reality of crime scene investigation, and into the world of the private sector fire investigator. She's here to fan the flames of intrigue and share how her career has evolved from public to private sector FI.

    Lucy lights up our conversation with her experiences transitioning from public service to the private sector.
    As she pulls back the curtain, we uncover the necessity of honest, ethical practice and the critical hands-on scenarios that shape the craft of an expert witness, from the ashes of fire scenes to the hallowed halls of courtrooms.

    Our journey through the smoke doesn't stop there; we delve into the technological advances and challenges that keep fire investigators on their toes, from lithium-ion battery risks to the potential of detection canines. The fusion of Lucy’s ' practical skills and formal education showcases the importance of adaptability and lifelong learning in solving the mysteries of fire. She paints a world where each clue is a chapter in a larger narrative.

  • Prepare to fan the flames of your curiosity and watch your knowledge of fire investigation ignite! This isn't just a podcast; it's a journey into the heart of fire's most puzzling mysteries, guided by the voices and stories of those who know it best. From the complexities of battery fires to the enigma of electrical blazes, our conversations with guests like Mary Jane Harding—who will share her expertise on the chilling subject of bodies in fires—promise to be as enlightening as they are varied. Expect to be educated and entertained, whether you're a seasoned investigator or just have a smoldering interest in the fiery facets of crime scene investigation.

    As you join me from my hotel room in Riyadh, let's kindle a community where learning is as casual as it is compelling. Our lineup of guests ranges from industry giants to fresh-faced students, all ready to share their insights. With topics like basic fire science and intriguing case studies such as King's Cross Five or Bradford City Five on the docket, there's no telling where our weekly excursions will take us. So, whether you're navigating rush hour or kicking back on a lazy Sunday, let this be the soundtrack to your quest for greater expertise in the world of fire investigation. Welcome to CSI on Fire—where knowledge burns bright and every chat fuels the mind.

  • "CSI on Fire" is a podcast created by fire investigators and forensic experts, with the aim of educating, collaborating, and fostering a sense of community among professionals in the field. The podcast provides a platform for fire investigators to share their skills, knowledge, and expertise in an informal and accessible environment. Through engaging discussions and interviews, "CSI on Fire" seeks to enhance the understanding and practices of fire investigation, while promoting collaboration and networking within the forensic community