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    Taiwan is the greatest geopolitical question of the 21st century says Kerry Brown, sinologist, and former Diplomat to the British Embassy in Beijing.

    He is, I am thrilled to say the guest on todays podcast. A sinologist is a scholar and expert of China, its language, history, politics, and culture - and the theme today is top to bottom the myriad questions looming over one of the largest political issues for China… Taiwan.

    Kerry published a book last year called The Taiwan Story: How a Small Island Will Dictate the Global Future. It is marvelous, and my hope was to do as much justice to the various questions which Kerry approaches Taiwan with as possible in a brief podcast.

    The big questions being, the economy, given Taiwan’s semi conductor supremacy with its home grown TSMC, the perplexing idea that Xi would view Taiwanese reunification as the most significant achievement to his legacy, how a more fractured, less unified global order creates lots of wiggle room, Taiwan’s history, and that despite having 95% Han ethnicity, what is it about Taiwan which makes them a distinctly different culture to China, Kerrys feeling for the inevitability of an attempt at reunification and lots more between those cracks.

    00:00 - Kerry Brown
    01:20 - Big Opportunity For China
    04:13 - Brief Taiwan History
    07:33 - TSMC
    24:09 - What China Thinks Of Taiwan
    37:42 - Taiwanese Identity & Culture
    50:14 - It’s All Xi
    52:35 - Opinions Of Taiwan
    58:30 - Kerry’s Life Work
    1:06:00 - Kevin Rudd & Australia
    1:16:30 - Indonesia & Serendipity


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    Robert Kaplan has been sighted as one of the most influential geopolitical thinkers of the modern era. The Revenge Of Geography, Surrender or Starve, Balkan Ghosts, Asias Cauldron, The Tragic Mind, and so on, I counted 18 books so far with his most recent being - Waste Land: A World In Permanent Crisis.

    I’ve listened to many of his books at this point, I found Revenge Of Geography a few years ago whilst preparing for my interviews with Tim Marshall.

    00:00 - Robert D. Kaplan
    00:54 - Deterioration Of The Rules Based Order
    08:34 - Utopian Versus Tragic Leaders
    14:32 - Geographies Role In Shaping Geopolitics
    23:05 - Writing For History Or Influence?
    25:13 - Australia
    28:46 - A Position Robert Holds That Folds Against The Status Quo


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    The following is with german political scientist, former beer brewer in the Congo, and author of How Tyrants Fall - Marcel Dirsus

    Marcel interviewed coup leaders, dissidents and soldiers to write about the workings and malfunctions of tyrants. Because while the individual personas, eccentricities and reputations might make them all distinct from one another, there are more threads that draw disparate dictator's together than don’t.

    I think this excerpt from the book sums up the essence of Marcel’s work and as well, the themes in todays podcast.

    “The most powerful tyrants on earth are condemned to live their life in fear. They can make their enemies disappear with a snap of their fingers. They, their families, and their acolytes may control entire countries from the luxury of their palace, but they also have to spend their every waking hour plagued by the fear of losing everything. No matter how powerful they become, they cannot pay for or order that fear to disappear. If such tyrants make one wrong move, they will fall.”

    So the interview is about the workings of various tyrants around the world, both living and dead.

    I ask Marcel in the about applying a prisoners of geography lens to this topic, china and the case for dictators not being all bad all the time, marcel’s rogues gallery of tyrants and as well, Marcel offers a raw reflection of the potential future of authoritarianism in the USA particularly because of the astounding moves made so far under trump. This was recorded the day after the US inauguration.

    00:00 - Marcel Dirsus
    01:40 - Economist's Book Of The Year
    03:55 - Serendipity & The Congo
    11:35 - Prisoners Of Geography Lens
    17:17 - Singapore A Dictatorship?
    20:10 - China
    27:50 - Saudi & MBS
    30:43 - Marcel's Unconventional Idea's
    34:15 - Geographical Concentration Of These Regimes
    39:10 - Tipping Point (When Regimes Collapse)
    49:10 - Rogues Gallery Of Tyrants
    53:25 - The Leader Who's Coming Closest To Power
    56:46 - Does Global Order Sustain Or Undermine These Regimes?
    1:00:25 - Trump's Chances At Dictatorship
    1:07:40 - Bullish & Bearish Country


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    Gregory Zuckerman is one of the Wall Street Journal GOATS and as well has authored plenty of wonderful books. He pulls back many of the hidden curtains of wall st. The big egos, the big enigmatic personalities, and naturally as well, the big brilliance behind these masters of the universe types. None for emblematic than Jim Simon’s, the central character of todays podcast.

    Theres a podcast called, Acquired, which did a fantastic episode of RenTech (if you want more), the boys over there also relied heavily on Greg’s work to put the episode together.

    00:00 - Gregory Zuckerman
    01:27 - Secrecy All The Way Down
    06:27 - Acquired
    08:02 - Obscure Datasets
    15:07 - It Will Take Longer Than You Think
    20:04 - Jim’s Eye For Talent
    22:27 - Discoveries From Within RenTech
    28:54 - Greg's Admiration For Jim & 50+ Year Olds Making It
    35:27 - Nassim Taleb
    39:01 - Consequences Of Size
    41:47 - Acquired Podcast & Bob Mercer
    44:07 - Politics Infecting Interpersonal Dynamics
    46:07 - Super Quants Can’t Recreate RenTech
    50:47 - Journalism As Sales
    53:17 - How Does One Conduct A Good Interview?
    57:37 - The Most Important Question About RenTech Noone Asks
    59:13 - Decline Of Journalism
    1:11:14 - The Role Of Serendipity In Greg’s Life

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    Bradley Hope returns to the podcast.

    By far the highest production value I’ve ever done. We recorded this together in Bradley’s studio in London. It’s TV quality stuff so refer to youtube for this one.

    And the podcast was as much in 90 minutes that we could possibly do around his book, Blood and Oil.

    The co-author of which, Justin Scheck has also been a previous guests on this podcast.

    Blood and Oil is the story of MBS, Mohammed bin Salman, who is the crown prince and most powerful person in Saudi Arabia, he is as well, the singular vision responsible for most of the good but as well, most of the bad that Saudi Arabia has been responsible for since about 2017.

    Some of the things that stand out from this episode that I would encourage you to stay around for include…

    the Shiek Down, this brazen transference of power and wealth which MBS oversaw.Bradley’s take on the supposed sports-washing this region has been all over the news for, specifically here, referring to football and golf.The US/Saudi relationshipNEOMAnd in between all of that a sense for MBS as told through the reporting and journalism of one of the best.


    00:00 - Bradley Hope
    02:30 - The Region - Oil, Religion, History
    06:45 - Sovereign Wealth Funds
    08:50 - Religious Divide Between Gulf Nations
    010:41 - Saudi Arabia Young Country
    13:40 - Understanding MBS
    19:40 - The Shiek Down
    27:35 - MBS & Risk
    30:58 - MBZ - UAE
    33:40 - Bradley’s Contrarian Take On Sportswashing
    43:07 - Geopolitical Significance Of The Region
    51:10 - Consultancies (McKinsey, etc) In Saudi
    55:23 - NEOM
    1:00:10 - Journalist Craft
    1:05:15 - Has MBS Read Bradley’s Work & Does Bradley Still Love Journalism?
    1:08:30 - Bradley Reflects On Changing Media Landscape
    1:13:50 - Mecca & Medina
    1:15:10 - Misunderstood Parts Of Saudi & Emirates

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    Christopher Marquis spent 10 years as a professor at the Harvard Business School, he’s also worked as a professor at Cornell, the Harvard Kennedy School and is currently a professor at the Judge Business School in Cambridge, where I was lucky enough to record this in person with him.

    It was quite a neat experience actually, after we did the interview, Christopher treated me to a lunch in one of the Cambrdige college halls where in proper Friday British fashion, a perfect Fish and Chips was served.

    Christopher has authored three books, but the subject of this interview was his latest… Profiteers, How Business Privatizes Profit and Socializes Cost.

    Some of you may have noticed a recurring question around ‘negative externalities’ in several of my interviews this year… particularly with Johan Norberg most recently. Well, Adam Lantz, who listens to this podcast reached out to me in response to the JOhan interview and said. If you really wanty to talk externalities, than you’ve got to talk to this guy.

    Johan Norberg Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ujVUlq3BbhTDBhBFnaR5S?si=46b8333b866341da
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    And so I wrote to Christopher immediately, read his book, booked the flight and was greeted with so much generosity and hospitality it was a bit of a pinch myself moment, because even though this podcast creates 0 dollars in revenue, it’s instead introducing me to a wealth of experience.

    This episode with Christopher is negative externalities all the way down… with specific attention to plastics, agriculture and clothing.

    00:00 - Christopher Marquis
    02:27 - The Externality Iceberg
    07:57 - The Plastic Iceberg
    14:47 - Can A Free Market Price These Negative Externalities?
    26:04 - Agriculture Iceberg
    41:07 - We Consume Via Our Means Not Our Morals
    42:41 - Clothing Iceberg
    52:33 - Egregious Cases Of Greenwashing
    54:39 - Zoom & Netflix? Externality?
    1:07:22 - The Jevons Paradox
    1:08:43 - Just Speed Bumps On The Way To Prosperity?
    1:12:35 - Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, What Are The Right Questions?
    1:16:57 - Serendipity In Christopher's Life

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    Zhala Bayramova is a human rights lawyer and child of political prisoner and human rights defender Dr. Gubad Ibadoghlu.

    I met Zhala recently at Bill Browders, Magnitsky Awards, where Zhala won youth activist of the year.

    Her legal status is that of a political refugee in Sweden, having been horrifically beaten during protests in Azerbaijan, a country she is afraid she will never be able to return to.

    Her father was repeatedly arrested for investigating corruption within the oil industry of Azerbaijan, until In the autumn of 2023 he decided to take the risk and visit his seriously ill mother in Baku, upon arrival, he was beaten by local police, as was his wife and Zhala’s mother. Then Gubad was arrested under trumped up charges of money laundering and subsequently thrown into pre-trial detention. His case was later postponed indefinitely, but he remains under house arrest and is being denied critical medical attention which in any other circumstance might save his lfie. Zhala, together with her brothers and mother, are leading a global campaign for his release.

    Zhala is an absolute force, and it is my privilege to have her as a guest on this podcast.

  • James Robinson is winning the Nobel Prize for Economics this year alongside his co-author Daron Acemoglu and fellow economist, Simon Johnson.

    This is obviously extremely exciting for him, but as well selfishly, rather exciting for me… because in episode 24, James Robinson was one of the first people I ever interviewed for this podcast.

    James co-wrote an outrageously successful book in 2012 called - ‘Why Nations Fail’ - which is the work for which James has won the Nobel Prize and as well, was the subject of this interview.

    Why Nations Fail introduces an extractive versus inclusive institutions framework that does an unreasonable amount of heavy lifting to explain the distributed economic prosperity between countries.

    And just fair warning, it is one of the first interviews I ever did, so it may feel quite a bit different to those more recently - but bare with me and endure my enthusiasm as James reveals where the catalyst for the inclusive/extractive framework comes from, a very hot take on corruption, James’s work as a developmental economist and a whole lot more.

    It’s also been a while since Ive made a general appeal for pumping that good juice. But if a Nobel Prize winner isn’t a reason why, then there aren't any left. The ability for me to get the guests I want, and grow the show as I ambition, is all downstream of how many followers on Apple and Spotify I have, but as well, how many reviews on Apple and Spotify I have. So I ask, hat in hand, to please bring that Christmas cheer and pump a 5 star review into whichever platform it is that you listen on.

  • Jack Weatherford returns to the pod which marks a pretty sentimental moment for me (links are at the bottom of this email, before the transcript snippet).

    Jack’s first appearance was #19 of the podcast. To this day, it’s my favourite podcast I’ve ever recorded. These are links to the first appearance.

    Jack Weatherford #19 on Spotify

    Jack Weatherford #19 on Apple

    Jack Weatherford #19 on Youtube

    But four years ago, when I had just started this podcast, I had written to Jack telling how I was listening to the final chapters of his book while walking across sand dunes in Merghouza, (a desolate slice of the Sahara in south west Morocco). The chapter was making the case for how the plagues viral spread was downstream of the Mongols connectivity of the modern world.

    I wrote that I was keen to interview him for this podcast that I had just started.

    There were lots of rejection for a while in the first few years and I had no expectations he would even get back to me. But to my surprise he did, and it was an emphatic yes.

    We corresponded a bit over email, recorded a 4 hour discussion, of which 3 where published And it was as much a dedication to Mongolia as it was Genghis Khan and the Mongols.

    And I’ve waited in the years since to see him appear on Rogan, Fridman, Tim Ferriss or even a Dan Carlin addendum, since these are all blokes who have openly praised and spoken about Jack’s work many times.

    But so far, nothing, although it looks like one of them may correct this, which Jack may or may not give away at the end.

    But onto this episode today.

    Jack has just published his final instalment on the Mongols, his fourth book on the topic. It’s called Emperor Of The Seas and it’s about Genghis’s grandson, Kublai Khan, who expanded the Mongol territory beyond the dominion his grandfather conquered 50 years before him. Kublai folded into the Khan empire the fertile agricultural lands of south China, repurposed that fleet and the expertise along with and expanded the Khan empire beyond the oceans. Mongols sitting on horseback, atop goat skins, riding wooden ships.

    Jack Weatherford #190 Of The Curious Worldview Podcast on Youtube

    Emperor Of The Seas - Jack Weatherford

  • Nat Eliason is an absolute legend.

    I’ve been subscribed to his newsletter, following his tweets, and listening to his interviews for what feels like years now.

    He’s a prolific online writer who recently published his debut book, a memoir of a crypto side quest he spiralled deep down into which is serves as revelatory for the sheer insanity that is crypto. It’s meme coins, making loads of money, losing it, secret discord servers, exit liquidity and all the rest that foreshadows the same stuff happening now.

    Crypto is back in the news, and therefore so is Nat’s book - Crypto Confidential - which is a must read if you want to get a sense for, or contribute to, the mania.

    However, writing is Nat’s circulatory system, so we ended up speaking half about books and half about crypto. When you check out the episode, navigate the timestamps if you wanna skip the writing stuff and go straight to crypto.

    Before I leave you with Nat, he’s got this tremendous call to action on his Substack that I wanted to share here…

    “Among my strongest life goals is to write something worthy of outliving me”


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    00:00 - Who Is Nat Eliason?
    01:08 - Serendipitous Anecdote
    02:58 - CRYPTO: Crypto Mania
    12:23 - Writing
    18:05 - AI Helping Writers (Great Metaphor)
    24:48 - Great Story Telling Less Great Writing
    34:08 - Taleb's Influence
    41:08 - Book Publishing Market (VC Metaphor)
    1:00:33 - CRYPTO: Crypto From All Sides. Crazy Stories. Current Market, Ideological? The Future.

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  • Levison Wood is an author, journalist, tv star, photographer, film producer, script writer, fellow of the Royal Geographic Society and as well to top it all off… former Officer in the British Army’s Parachute Regiment.

    If you’ve never heard of Levison Wood, he’s written books that have taken us all across the world. He was propelled into fame with his debut 'Walking The Nile' back in 2015 which serendipitously parlayed into a documentary, and then the momentum took and he’s never looked back.

    Lev is for me the archetypal guest that I look for with this podcast. That delicate combination of writer and adventurer. The discipline to take a big risk, and then return with clean prose.

    I’d group this interview right alongside my high watermark for the show which was #169 with Jon Lee Anderson, #66 with Tim Butcher way back and any of the Tim Marshall appearances as well.

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    00:00 - Levison Wood
    01:040 - Jocko Willink
    04:25 - All Explorers Seem British?
    06:08 - Luck & Serendipity
    21:43 - The Surprise Success & Big Decade
    33:00 - Rough Times For Lev
    38:08 - Opportunity Cost: Family Vs Career
    44:40 - Lev's Mount Rushmore Of GOAT Explorers
    55:40 - Romanticising Indiana Jones & Thoughts On Graham Hancock
    59:20 - Rory Stewart
    1:02:23 - Great Current Explorers
    1:10:30 - Lev Having An Incredible Decade
    1:14:10 - Thinking About Risk
    1:22:55 - Milling - Wild Hazing In Parachute Regiment
    1:30:10 - How Has The Nature Of Travel Changed?
    1:43:25 - What Great Expedition From History Would Lev Join?

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  • David De Jong First Appearance On The Pod - Nazi Billionaires, #127 - Apple

    David De Jong First Appearance On The Pod - Nazi Billionaires, #127 - Spotify

    David De Jong is a Dutch historian and investigative journalist.
    Early in his career, he found himself in New York reporting for Bloomberg on hidden fortunes and the power of family offices all across the world - it was during this job he discovered a nondescript €18,000,000,000 German family office…

    David eventually pulled that thread all the way back to the upper echelons of the Nazi party

    This led him to move to Berlin and embark down a 4 year investigation into the dark and dusty vaults of Germanys corporate pst.

    What he uncovered was Nazi wealth that has endured to this day which has its tentacles wrapped around many companies that you and I consume or interact with on a daily basis.

    Today, we recorded a brief addendum to the story, David published in Vanity Fair recently a story of Kuehne + Nagel, one of the worlds largest freight forwarding companies, that is listed on the Swiss exchange, but a very German company indeed.
    The podcast is about the central role Kuehne + Nagel played in the Third Reich. The politics of memory in Germany and the son of Kuehne + Nagel founder, Klaus-Michael Kuehne who is germanys richest man, the largest shareholder of Kuehne + Nagel and until today, still denying the companies dark origins.

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    The following is with Patrick Watts who is one hell of an interesting fella and in this podcast we discuss the various outcomes and implications of the 2024 US election contra Trump & Harris.

    The End Of The American Empire – UK Amazon

    The End Of The American Empire – US Amazon

  • Stephanie Baker is a journalist whose been writing between the intersection of business and politics for almost 30 years with Bloomberg.

    Stephanie's just published her first book and it is just amazing and the consequence of covering these topics for a lifetime. The network, the knowledge, the weird language of sanctions of financial opacity.

    It’s a book about the global economic war with Russia post Ukrainian invasion. The fallout of the sanctions, why it has and hasn’t crippled the Russian economy as intended, and everything in and around Russian capital flight, Russian sanctions and the global economic war underwriting Russia's physical threat.

    We start with Stephanies experience covering Russia from Moscow in the 90s, her stumbling across a murder scene and then between that and the book, Stephanie working as Christopher Hitchens fact checker at The Nation, the details behind putting a book like this together then the details about western businesses who withdrew substantial Russian operations, the oil markets chicanery to skirt sanctions, Oligarchs, Minigarchs, Euroclear and frozen Russian capital, what the sanctions did where they've been effective and where they haven’t and a whole lot more.

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    - Oliver Bullough
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    00:00 - Who Is Stephanie Baker
    03:21 - Moscow In The 90s & Fact Checking Christopher Hitchens
    09:01 - How Oligarchs Were Created
    17:07 - Hermitage Capital & Bill Browder
    19:00 - Debut Book After 30 Years Of Journalism
    27:46 - Economic Chaos From Sanctions
    31:21 - Commodity Markets & Oil Chicanery
    36:26 - Cannibalising Goods For Repurposing As Weapons
    38:45 - McDonalds, Renault & Unilever Huge Russian Operations
    54:50 - Euroclear's Role
    1:00:11 - Capital Flight, Offshore Plumbing & Financial Opacity
    1:20:16 - Liquid wealth of Putin
    1:21:36 - The Role Of Serendipity In Stephanies Life

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  • Opus Dei are a predatory catholic cult that started in Spain in the early 20th century and grew and grew over the years into a global organisation that set out with the singular vision to re-christianise the entire world.

    Gareth Gore stumbled into this story when researching and writing the collapse of one of Spains largest financial institutions, Banco Popular, which turns out was the bottomless kitty financing Opus Dei’s international ambitions. It’s a story of money laundering, fraud and financial opacity that made possible the scale of one of if not the most influential and pernicious and influential catholic organisations int he world. But it’s not just a benign organisation that creates a welcoming community for catholics the world over, it is an organisation which has been accused of 100’s if not thousands of incidents of human trafficking, sexual abuse and drug abuse and are attempting to influence their worldview through the rewriting of legal systems. A worldview that reflects the most conservative and man made fundamentalist interpretations of the bible.

    This book by Gareth Gore is an immense achievement that proves an otherwise held conspiracy, of financial fraud at the scale of hundreds of millions of dollars, political corruption and a secret society exerting their influence on the halls of power that you and I are subject to.

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    00:00 - What Is Opus Dei?
    02:30 - How Did This Story Get On Gareth's Radar?
    09:30 - What Is Opus Dei In Gareth's Words
    24:47 - Josemaria Escriva... The Founder Of Opus Dei
    33:40 - 1000's Of Victims Of Human Trafficking, Sexual Abuse & Drug Abuse.
    46:15 - The Structure Of Opus
    59:05 - Banco Popular
    1:16:10 - Secret Societies
    1:18:10 - Peter Thiel & Michael Sugrue
    1:22:35 - Counter Messaging Campaign From Opus Dei
    1:27:00 - How Co-Operative Were Opus Dei?
    1:31:10 - Physical Threats?
    1:32:30 - Have We Seen The Height Of Opus?
    1:37:25 - Changing Media Landscape Over Next 25 Years?
    1:42:12 - Serendipity In Gareth's Life

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    Johan Norberg is a prolific author and academic, he’s one of the most notable members of the Cato Institute and as well someone who has recently bronzed in the blinding spotlight of both Javier Milei and Elon Musk.

    Johan is a staunch defender of globalisation and author of‘ The Capitalist Manifesto’ which was boosted into the stratosphere earlier this year with an overwhelming endorsement by Elon Musk when he wrote that the book is an excellent explanation of why capitalism is not just successful, but morally right.

    00:00 - Johan Norberg
    01:35 - Johan's Worldview Influences
    09:07 - Johan's Rand-ian Fictional Tale
    10:35 - Johan Know Being A Role Model To Others
    14:35 - The Elon Musk Effect
    19:05 - Serendipity
    24:05 - Will AI Destroy The Labour Market?
    41:50 - Capitalism Failure To Price In Negative Externality
    1:02:45 - Globalisation Homogenising Culture
    1:15:40 - Anxious Generation
    1:23:55 - Nassim Taleb Influence

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    Just how cancerous and pernicious to culture, politics and a globalised world is offshore finance and financial opacity?

    Few if any people in the world are better suited to answer this question than John Christensen, who co-founded the Tax Justice Network and is a prolific author, journalist and documentary producer, probably best known for producing ‘the spiders web’ which millions and millions of views later looks into the weird and devastating influence of the City Of London (of which we expand deeply in the podcast)

    I recorded this in person with John earlier this year and props to Jim Henry, who was an early guest on this pod who introduced us. This is by far the most in depth podcast interview John Christensen has ever participated in.

    This is an extensive interview which flows up the sides, but never spills out of the river which is the downstream and disastrous effects of offshore finance. There is lots of attention paid to the UK, the lawyers, tax havens, culture, real estate, kleptocrats, foreign aid and a hell of a lot more as well.

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    Out Of The Slave Fields - Bruce Ladebu (Book)

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    At this very moment there are over 40,000,000 people around the world trapped in slavery. This is a number larger than at any point before in history… and perniciously, a figure that grows everyday.

    Millions among them are children. And then millions of those are living in the most devastating conditions imaginable.

    Bruce Ladebu runs an initiative called Children's Rescue where he and his team identify and then extract those very children living in the most destitute environments.

    To date, the Children's Rescue initiative have rescued over 2,400 children.

    Share this podcast with someone. The better informed we are about this reality, at the very least, the more discerning we can be in our consumption that feeds this industry.

    00:00 – The Problem Of Modern Slavery04:09 - How Bruce Got Into This Line Of Work06:12 - 40,000,000 Slaves12:40 - Slavery Growing As An Industry23:43 - How Someone Ends Up A Slave30:55 - Bruce's Team & Children's Rescue Initiative34:22 - The Extraction Process38:50 - Bruce's Trauma From Exposure To This42:35 - De-Escelate Communication With Slave Owners46:21 - Poisoned 48:25 - Camera More Powerful Than The Gun50:30 - Work At The Institutional Level53:47 - Amsterdam55:20 - How Trauma Effects Different Children1:02:15 - Slavery In The Everyday Things We Consume1:06:07 - How Well Known Is Modern Slavery?1:18:15 - The Sound Of Freedom1:10:21 - Country Bruce Wants To Add To His Operations1:11:05 - Final Words From Bruce (Affecting Starfish Metaphor)

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    Never Split The Difference Book Review (Things To Know If You Do Sales)

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    Never Split The Difference deserves its place as one of the best selling negotiation books of all time.

    It’s co-authored by the brilliant writer Tahl Raz, who turned Chris Voss’s life and lessons into the most readable and actionable prescription for good communication.

    I’m stoked today to get to feature Chris Voss on this podcast, the force behind ‘Never Split The Difference’ which is a series of highest stakes negotiations broken down into their parts for examination. Chris was the FBI’s lead negotiator.

    Hostage negotiation in Haiti? Terrorism in the Philippines? Egos, money and conflicting interests in a boardroom? Even walking a bank robber from the ledge. What are the phrases and psychology Chris uses in his communication to get the outcome he wants? And where could it be relevant to you?

    The podcast here touches on Nassim Taleb and Khaneman’s influence on Chris’s worldview. The line between manipulation and persuasion, serendipity, traits of good communicators and a hell of a lot more.

    00:00 – Who Is Chris Voss03:05 - When Chris First Paid Attention To How People Communicate12:05 - Nassim Taleb & Communication Over Time22:20 - Serendipity In Chris's Life29:39 - Never Split The Difference & How Chris Unlocked A New Style Of Negotiation36:05 - Khaneman & Tvesky's Influence On Chris43:20 - Gut Instinct48:20 - Line Between Manipulation & Persuasion 50:05 - Consistent Traits In Good Communicators56:05 - Oprah Is The GOAT58:21 - Traits Of The Best Interviewers

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    I am stoked to welcome back one of the most out there and interesting writers, thinkers and speakers, Rory Sutherland.

    He founded the behavioural science team at the Ogilvy group, he is one of Europe’s most powerful advertising executives and author many many books and articles, his most recent book, Alchemy, coming highly recommended and is a treatise on how great marketing ideas are built around the profoundly irrational… Rory appeared once before on this podcast in episode 115.

    And today, for his second appearance I was lucky enough to do this with Rory in person, I got the train out of London to Rory’s hometown and we settled up in the courtyard of a beautiful little cafe in the sun. And so, you get the ambience of birds and wind to frame the conversation.

    There are no timestamps on this podcast today, because with Rory’s erudition there is unseen flow from one thought to another that makes a narrow subject timestamp non suitable, rather, consume this one in full, we open with Salman Rushdie and his days as a copywriter to Rory reflecting on his recent notoriety, a powerful insight that the best marketing is in fact fat tailed, behind the scenes of his Rick Rubin interview all the way to me asking Rory whether he’s ever done a floaty.

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