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In this powerful and timely episode, Corey and Kendall sit down with Alexis Hourse;t, the creator and host of the DNA Surprises podcast â a show dedicated to exploring the emotional complexity of unexpected DNA discoveries. Alexis shares her own deeply personal story of finding out through a consumer DNA test that she was not who she thought she wasâand how that revelation sent her on a journey of identity, belonging, and healing.
DNA Surprises in a Time of ErasureAlexis opens up about:
Navigating the shock of discovering her African American heritage after being raised with a different understanding of her identityThe emotional impact of losing connection to a culture she never got to fully claim growing upHow starting DNA Surprises just months after her discovery became a crucial tool for healingThe importance of community when family and identity are thrown into questionHow recent political efforts to erase history and the unexpected bankruptcy of 23andMe complicate DNA journeys todayThis episode goes beyond the personal and dives into how larger societal forcesâracism, history erasure, and privacy concernsâaffect individuals finding their roots through DNA.
Whether you are part of the DNA surprise, adoption, NPE (Not Parent Expected), or donor-conceived communities, or simply someone interested in the power of personal storytelling and resilience, this episode will resonate.
About Alexis HourseltAlexis Hourset is the creator and host of DNA Surprises, a podcast that shares the journeys of people who experience unexpected DNA discoveries, also known as DNA surprises. Since launching in 2021, Alexis has built a strong community, providing a platform for others navigating identity shifts, family complexities, and the emotional impact of uncovering hidden histories. She is also a writer, speaker, and advocate for those processing the often-complicated realities of DNA testing.
Alexis lives in Arizona with her family and is passionate about building spaces where people feel less alone on their journey to understanding themselves.
Connect with Alexis:đ§ Listen to DNA Surprises: https://www.dnasurprises.com
đž Instagram: @dnasurprises
In this episode:â What it's like to discover youâve been living with a hidden identity
â The healing power of community and podcasting
â Why history and identity matter more than ever right now
â Coping with the emotional weight of family secrets
â The unexpected ripple effect of 23andMeâs bankruptcy on DNA discovery journeys
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What if your biological familyâsiblings, a mother, even potential fathersâhad been living just a few towns away your entire life, and you never knew?
My Family Was Right Next DoorIn this emotionally charged episode of Family Twist, we meet a mother-daughter duo who peel back the layers of a decades-old secret. The mother was adopted in the 1950s under a veil of societal shame. Decades later, her daughter took on the role of family detective, determined to uncover the truth about her motherâs originsâand what she discovered would shock even the most seasoned genealogy sleuth.
From anonymous letters and DNA testing to surprise wedding encounters and jaw-dropping family resemblances, this story unfolds like a mystery novel with real-life stakes: identity, legacy, and longing.
Youâll hear how:
A chance obituary led to a massive family discoveryA doppelgĂ€nger sister was hiding in plain sightâon FacebookA private investigator cracked open the story with information from an unexpected sourceCoincidences piled up: haunted mansions, sandwich shop sightings, even a Panera encounterThe power of persistence brought long-lost relatives face to faceThis is a tale of secrets kept, lives intertwined, and a daughter's relentless drive to give her mother the one thing she deserved all along: acknowledgment.
Whether youâre part of the adoption, NPE, or DNA surprise communityâor simply love a gripping human storyâyou do not want to miss this episode.
Trigger warning: This episode includes discussions around adoption, familial rejection, and grief.
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What happens when the country of your birth refuses to acknowledge where you really come from? For adoptees, proving their origins can be a legal nightmareâespecially when official documents donât tell the whole truth.
In this two-part Family Twist special, our guest shares his astonishing journey to uncover his heritage, navigate international red tape, and fight for his rightful place as an Irish citizen. Part 1 set the stage for his shocking discoveryânow, in Part 2, we dig into the legal battle that changed everything.
The Long Road Home to Irish Citizenshipđ In this episode, youâll hear:
â Why Irelandâs citizenship laws left adoptees in legal limbo
â How a DNA expert became the key to proving the truth
â The years-long legal fight that almost ended in defeat
â A surprising twist that opened the door for other adoptees
â What it feels like to finally hold an Irish passport after a lifetime of uncertainty
This is a story about resilience, justice, and the power of DNA to rewrite history. If youâve ever questioned the meaning of identity, this episode is a must-listen.
đ Donât miss Part 1! If you havenât heard the first half of this conversation, go back and listen before diving in.
đ§ Subscribe, share, and join us for this unforgettable journey on Family Twist!
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In this intimate and reflective solo-hosted episode, Kendall dives deep into a powerful conversation with guest John Portmann, exploring themes of family, identity, adoption secrecy, and the life-changing power of DNA discoveries.
Uncovering My Secret Irish Heritage Through DNAKey Highlights:
Growing Up Adopted:John shares parallels with Kendall in their early experiences of adoption, highlighting the profound role their adoptive parents played in creating a sense of security through openness and religious narratives.The adoption narrative instilled by John's religious parents: "God chose our family."Family Dynamics and Adoption:
Both Kendall and John experienced early awareness of their adoption but had distinctly different emotional journeys.John discusses his upbringing, his adoption in Arizona, and childhood relocation to Pennsylvania.Reflections from John on suppressing curiosity about biological origins during childhood versus the persistent desire for answers later in life.Health History & Identity:
John addresses the challenges adoptees face when asked about family medical history by doctors or financial planners.John explains how practical considerations, like retirement planning, sparked his curiosity about personal origins.DNA as a Gateway:
The transformative moment when John received DNA test results from Ancestry.John's shock, confusion, and excitement upon discovering he was 100% Irish and connecting with potential family members.Searching and Finding Biological Family:
John recounts his initial, confusing interactions with DNA matches and the struggle to interpret results.Introduction to the DNA detective who significantly impacted John's searchâa Canadian university professor who provided empathetic, professional, and effective assistance.John discusses overcoming initial fears and vulnerability about trusting strangers with deeply personal information.The Deep Impact of Adoption Secrets:
The emotional complexities surrounding adoption secrecy, societal attitudes, and the powerful longing for identity validation.Insights from John into how societal shame and religious beliefs influenced the adoption process historically, especially within Catholic communities.Fighting for Identity and Citizenship:
John shares his challenging journey toward proving his Irish ancestry and gaining Irish citizenship despite legal and bureaucratic hurdles.Advocacy, resilience, and perseverance as John navigated complex international bureaucracy.The crucial role DNA evidence played in breaking down barriers in adoption and identity recognition, both in the U.S. and internationally.Reflective Insights:
Kendall and John share mutual understanding as adoptees, reflecting on the lifelong impact adoption can have on identity, belonging, and self-discovery.Discussion on how revealing hidden truths can heal generational wounds and empower adoptees.
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In this episode of Family Twist, Corey and Kendall sit down with Connor, who is in the process of writing a memoir about his experience with open adoption. Connor pulls back the curtain on the often-glossed-over complexities of open adoption, sharing how the promises made to birth parents, adoptive families, and adoptees themselves are often more marketing than reality.
When Open Adoption Isnât So OpenConnor shares his journey of navigating two familiesâhis adoptive family and his biological familyâyet still feeling like he doesnât fully belong in either. He delves into how open adoption is often sold as a healing mechanism for all parties, but without enforceable mechanisms, it can leave lasting scars.
A standout moment in the episode is Connorâs story about being just around the corner from his birth father while on a trip to Ireland. He had the opportunity to meet him but hesitated, a decision he now deeply reflects on. This moment underscores the internal conflict many adoptees faceâthe fear of rejection, the hesitation to disrupt someone elseâs life, and the ever-present quest for answers.
The episode also dives into how society often misunderstands adoption, with Connor addressing the harsh feedback he sometimes receives when he shares his truth on social media. He discusses the idea of "adoption as addition, not replacement," emphasizing that the goal shouldnât be to erase a childâs history but to enrich their sense of identity.
The conversation wraps with a discussion of how music has helped Connor process his emotions, particularly through the song "Father of Mine" by Everclear. Corey and Kendall add their own experiences, including how music helped Kendall bond with his birth father.
Key Themes:
The Misleading Marketing of Open Adoption: Connor explains how open adoption is often marketed with promises of continued contact and healing, but the reality is rarely so clear-cut.Identity and Belonging: The episode explores the struggle of adoptees who have connections with both adoptive and biological families yet still feel out of place.Family Secrets and Guilt: Connor and Kendall both share experiences of feeling guilty for wanting to connect with their biological families and how family secrets can perpetuate this feeling.Missed Opportunities and Self-Preservation: Connor's story of nearly meeting his birth father in Ireland but holding back out of fear is a powerful example of how difficult these decisions can be.The Need for a New Adoption Narrative: The episode calls for a shift in how adoption is discussed, focusing on honesty and the real challenges faced by adoptees.If this episode resonated with you or if you have your own adoption story to share, connect with us on social media or visit our website. And if you know someone who might benefit from this conversation, please share this episode.
Subscribe to Family Twist wherever you get your podcasts, and stay tuned for more stories that reveal the true twists of family life.
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What happens when the life youâve always known changes in an instant? For Natalie, a single conversation just before her 18th birthday unraveled everything she thought she knew about herself. She grew up believing she was the biological child of her Filipino immigrant parentsâuntil they sat her and her triplet siblings down and revealed a shocking truth: they were conceived using an egg donor.
In this eye-opening episode of Family Twist, we dive into Natalieâs incredible journey of identity, family, and self-discovery. From learning that her biological mother was actually her momâs best friend, to realizing she had half-siblings sheâd known her whole life, Natalie takes us through the emotional rollercoaster of reconciling her past with her present.
She shares how this revelation impacted her relationships, how she processed her new reality, and how sheâs found healing through community, humor, and self-reflection. We also discuss the challenges within the donor-conceived community, the ethics of anonymous donations, and what it truly means to define family.
In This Episode, We Discuss:
âïž The Moment of Truth â How Natalieâs parents revealed the secret and why they waited until she was almost 18.
âïž Growing Up in the Dark â How Natalieâs Filipino heritage shaped her identity, and what changed when she learned she wasnât biologically connected to her mother.
âïž Meeting Her âNewâ Family â The shocking realization that her momâs best friend was actually her biological mother and that her childhood friends were actually half-siblings.
âïž Processing Identity Shifts â The emotional and psychological impact of learning the truth and how she navigated the complexity of relationships after the revelation.
âïž The Power of Community â How connecting with other donor-conceived individuals helped her process her experience and find a sense of belonging.
âïž The Ethics of Donor Conception â The complicated reality of anonymous donations, medical history concerns, and the hidden industry behind assisted reproduction.
âïž Healing Through Humor â How Natalie has used humor and storytelling as a tool for resilience and self-acceptance.
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What would you do if a DNA test revealed a biological parent you never knew existedâwho also happened to be serving a life sentence in a maximum-security prison? Thatâs exactly what happened to our guest, Brad Ewell. In this powerful three-part series, Brad shares his incredible journey from uncovering a decades-old family secret to standing face-to-face with his biological father inside Angola State Penitentiary.
From DNA Surprise to Maximum SecurityIn this final installment, Brad takes us through the moment he met his father, how that eight-hour visit shattered his expectations, and the complicated emotions that followed. What started as a plan to âcheck the boxâ on meeting his only living biological parent turned into something far more profound. Brad also walks us through the fight for his fatherâs parole, the complex feelings surrounding justice and redemption, and how this discovery reshaped his understanding of family.
Join us for an emotional and eye-opening conversation about identity, resilience, and the unexpected twists of fate that shape our lives.
Key Topics:â Bradâs initial reluctance to meet his biological father
â Visiting Angola State Penitentiary and his shocking first impression
â The unexpected honesty from his fatherâand how it changed everything
â The complicated emotions of balancing two families
â Fighting for his fatherâs parole and what it taught him about justice
â Finding closure and redefining what family means
đ§ Tune in now for an unforgettable conclusion to Bradâs story!
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In part one, we learned how Brad Ewellâs entire world changed with a single DNA test. What he thought was just a fun ancestry experiment unraveled a family secret buried for 49 years. A message from a stranger. A birth certificate with missing details. A phone call that ended in stunned silence. And finally, the words that changed everything:
"Bradley, you're adopted. And weâve been trying to figure out how to tell you."
But that was just the beginning of Bradâs journey.
Shocking Family Secrets Keep UnravelingIn this second installment, we go deeper into the layers of secrecy and deception that shaped his life:
âïž The unsettling moment Brad realized his adoptive parents would never have told him the truth
âïž A shocking health-related revelation that could have changed everythingâbut didnât
âïž The gray-market adoption setup that kept the secret locked away for decades
âïž The bombshell discovery of his biological father⊠who has been in prison for murder since 1972
âïž The even bigger shockâhis biological father was also his auntâs ex-husband
Yeah. You read that right.
đź And it doesnât stop there.
Brad now has a decision to makeâdoes he reach out to the man who never knew he existed? Or does he keep his distance?
The answer? Brad took a step that would change everything.
And in the final installment of this series, weâll follow him inside Angola Prison, where he meets his biological father for the first time. What happened in that moment? Youâll have to stay tuned to find out.
đ Donât miss the conclusion to this jaw-dropping storyâsubscribe now! Whether youâre listening on Family Twist or Horror Heals, the final part of Bradâs journey is one you do not want to miss.
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Some stories are so unbelievable, they sound like they belong in a movie. But this isnât fictionâthis is Family Twist. And for this special crossover episode, weâre also bringing our Horror Heals audience along for the ride.
Brad Ewell thought he knew who he was. That changed in an instant.
What started as a simple curiosityâone of those âHey, letâs do a DNA test for funâ momentsâturned into a slow-burning, reality-shifting discovery. A message from a stranger. A birth certificate that didnât quite add up. A phone call that changed everything.
From Horror Fan to Horror StoryIn this episode, Brad shares:
âïž The shocking moment he discovered his entire identity wasnât what he thought
âïž How horror and art became his unexpected lifeline during a difficult time
âïž The eerie way fate brought Corey and Brad togetherâvia The Exorcist
âïž Why horror books and films have always played a role in his life
âïž The emotional weight of family secretsâand the power of uncovering the truth
And hereâs the kickerâthis is just the beginning.
đź We have two more episodes with Brad coming your way, where the twists keep coming. You wonât believe what happens next.
đ Donât forget to subscribe! Whether youâre listening on Family Twist or Horror Heals, you wonât want to miss Parts 2 and 3 of Bradâs incredible story.
đ„ Want to See Bradâs Art?
Check out his stunning horror-themed artworkâincluding his prints of iconic horror figures on the pages of the very books they came from! Weâll share some of our favorite pieces from Brad on our social media.
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In this episode of Family Twist, we sit down with Jon Baime, the writer, producer, and director of the powerful NPE documentary, Filling in the Blanks. Now streaming for free on Amazon Prime, Tubi, and the Roku Channel, the film explores Jonâs personal journey as a donor-conceived individual and the emotional discoveries that unfolded after taking a DNA test.
Jon shares candid insights into how his fatherâs adamant resistance to DNA testing led to life-altering revelations, as well as the complex emotions tied to uncovering long-hidden family secrets. From confronting identity crises to fostering new relationships with biological relatives, Jon walks us through the filmmaking process and the healing power of storytelling.
We also delve into the shared experiences of NPEs (Not Parent Expected) and donor-conceived individuals, highlighting the documentaryâs impact on viewers within these communities. Whether youâre navigating your own DNA discovery or curious about the hidden dynamics of family relationships, this episode is a must-listen.
Topics Covered in This Episode:
The inspiration behind Filling in the BlanksJonâs fatherâs resistance to DNA testing and the shocking revelation of being donor-conceivedThe emotional and psychological impact of discovering biological relativesJonâs approach to balancing humor and heavy subject matter in the documentaryInsights into the NPE and donor-conceived communitiesThe unique challenges of telling such a personal story through filmAudience reactions and the filmâs role in promoting healingWhere to Watch the Documentary:
Filling in the Blanks is streaming now on Amazon Prime, Tubi, and the Roku Channel.
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Corey and Kendall take a trip down memory lane, revisiting Kendallâs incredible adoption storyâthe inspiration behind Family Twist. For new listeners who may have missed the beginning, and loyal fans who want to hear more, Kendall shares untold details about his journey from being adopted as a baby to discovering his birth family at age 47 through a DNA kit.
Listener Anneâs touching letter prompts Kendall to reflect deeply on the loss of his adoptive parents, Betty and Rubel, who adopted him after years of longing for a child. Their story of love, perseverance, and resilience shaped Kendallâs outlook on life, and Corey brings new insights into how their legacy continues to inspire the podcast.
Lost and Found: The Adoption Story Behind Family TwistHighlights include:
The Start of Kendallâs Story: How a DNA kit and a birthday surprise revealed six half-siblings, 13 nieces and nephews, and two living birth parents.Listener Anneâs Powerful Letter: Anne, a long-time listener, offers a heartfelt perspective on Kendallâs journey and the enduring love he feels for his adoptive parents.A Love Story in Arkansas: Betty and Rubelâs love story, their struggles with infertility, and the joy of welcoming Kendall into their lives.Nature vs. Nurture: Kendall reflects on the connections between his adoptive and biological families, exploring how traits and personality are shaped by both.The Legacy of Loss: Kendall shares his thoughts on mourning his adoptive parents and how discovering his birth family has deepened his appreciation for Betty and Rubel.Listener Shout-Out:
Anneâs message is a reminder of the global reach of Family Twist and its ability to connect with listeners on a deeply emotional level. Thank you, Anne, for your kind words and for sharing our podcast with others.
Call to Action:
If youâve been inspired by Kendallâs story or know someone who might be, please share Family Twist with a friend. Whether youâre an adoptee, part of the NPE or donor-conceived community, or just someone who loves stories of resilience and connection, this podcast is for you.
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In this unforgettable continuation of Karenâs journey, we dive deeper into the raw, real, and often messy world of family relationships. Karen opens up about the bold choices sheâs made to protect her well-being, the bittersweet beauty of reconnection, and the courage it takes to set boundariesâeven with the people we love most.
Why Saying No to Family Can Be the Healthiest ChoiceHereâs what youâll hear in this episode:
When love isnât enough: Karen shares the hard truth behind stepping away from her birth father and why it was the healthiest choice for her.
Sibling bonds and brokenness: The ups and downs of connecting with half-siblings, including one siblingâs struggle with addiction and anotherâs unexpected rejection.
Generational echoes: How the shame and trauma carried by her birth mother during pregnancy shaped Karenâs lifeâand the work sheâs done to break free.
Boundaries and grace: The emotional tightrope of maintaining a relationship with her adoptive mother in the shadow of political divides and unkind comments.
Why community matters: Karen reflects on the importance of shared stories and how finding others who âget itâ has been a lifeline.
Karenâs story isnât just about the pain of loss or the weight of family secrets; itâs about resilience, growth, and the radical act of choosing yourself. This episode will challenge you, inspire you, and remind you that healing doesnât happen overnightâbut itâs always worth the fight.
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What if the worst day of someone elseâs life was also the beginning of your greatest revelation? In this jaw-dropping episode of Family Twist, we explore an adopteeâs extraordinary journey, starting with a mysterious medical episode and culminating in an emotional family reunion. But itâs the uncanny connection to her half-sisterâa woman she never metâthat will leave you questioning fate itself.
A Half-Sister's Passing and an Adoptee's AwakeningHereâs why youâll want to listen:
Discover how a simple letter to Catholic Charities uncovered long-buried secrets.
Hear the heart-wrenching story of a half-sisterâs untimely passingâand the eerie timing that connected their lives.
Explore the bittersweet reality of adoption reunions, from joyous discoveries to the complexities of navigating new relationships.
Gain insight into how this journey inspired a calling to help others through adoptee-competent therapy.
This isnât just a story about adoption. Itâs about loss, love, and the inexplicable ties that bind us. From the moment Karen woke up with unexplained anxiety to the day she connected with her birth family, youâll be hooked on every twist and turn of this compelling narrative.
Why Listen All the Way Through?
The truth revealed in the final moments of this story is too powerful to miss. Youâll leave with a renewed appreciation for resilience, the mysteries of connection, and the incredible strength it takes to bridge the gap between past and present.
Subscribe now and press playâthis is one episode you wonât forget.
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Episode Description:
In this special expanded edition of Family Twist, Corey and Kendall revisit 2024âs most downloaded episode featuring Pam, a courageous advocate who discovered through DNA testing that she is the child of an affair. Pam shares the emotional journey of uncovering her biological parentage, navigating family dynamics, and becoming an advocate for others in the NPE (Not Parent Expected) community.
Kendall also dives into his own DNA discovery story, revealing the life-changing realization that his biological father wasnât who he thought. With humor and heart, Kendall recalls thinking his test results were 'ruined' by a morning kiss and how his persistence eventually led him to uncovering the truth.
Breaking the Stigma As the Child of an AffairKey Highlights:
Pamâs personal discovery of her biological parentage through DNA testing.The emotional complexities of being the child of an affair and navigating relationships with biological family members.Kendallâs candid and humorous recounting of his DNA discovery and its emotional fallout.The advocacy work Pam has undertaken to create support spaces for those with unexpected parentage discoveries.The importance of finding community and support in NPE, adoption, and DNA discovery groups.Key Quotes:
"I just wanted to know how Irish I was. Instead, I discovered my entire identity wasnât what I thought." â Kendall"You canât erase the fact that Iâm here. I deserve to exist." â Pam"Family twists donât just change lives; they reveal truths that have been buried for decades." â CoreyConnect With Us:
If you have a story to share or know someone whose family twist deserves to be told, reach out to us at [insert email address].
Additional Resources:
Learn more about NPE advocacy at [insert resource link].Join support groups for DNA discoveries, adoption, and NPE [insert group link].Check out past episodes of Family Twist on [insert platform links].Donât Forget to Subscribe!
Be sure to follow us wherever you listen to podcasts so you donât miss upcoming episodes featuring more extraordinary stories like Pamâs.
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Make sure and listen to episode 100 of The Family Twist Podcast before listening to this "lost," bonus episode with Monica Hall.
The Lost Episode of Family TwistIn this special âlostâ episode, we reconnect with the unforgettable Monica Hall, whose previous appearance left us laughing, crying, and marveling at her resilience. This time, Monica dives even deeper into her extraordinary journey of healing, empowerment, and reconciling with her past. Monica shares stories about finding the daughter she gave up for adoption, and the potentially literal demons that haunted her and her son, Levi.
Monica recounts haunting tales from her teenage years, including the trauma of sexual violence and her subsequent quest for closure. In a moment straight out of a thriller, she describes confronting her past head-on by tracking down the man who wronged herâa journey filled with equal parts courage and catharsis. From shadowy figures and family secrets to her sonâs âSpidey sense,â Monicaâs story is gripping and raw, offering listeners an unfiltered look at the resilience of the human spirit.
This episode also explores how trauma and healing intersect, touching on themes from Corey and Kendallâs other podcast, Horror Heals. Monicaâs tale reminds us that no matter how dark the story, thereâs always hope for light and growth.
What You'll Hear in This Episode:
Revisiting Monicaâs Story: A quick recap of Monicaâs life journey, from leaving corporate America to rediscovering her indigenous roots and building a global soap empire.Haunted by the Past: Monica shares chilling accounts of shadowy figures and demons tied to family trauma, and her relentless pursuit of healing through confrontation.The Power of Writing and Reflection: How writing her memoir helped Monica process decades of pain and repressed memories.Family, Trauma, and Healing: Monicaâs reflections on the complexities of adoption, family secrets, and her ongoing work to reconcile her past.Connections to Horror Heals: How Monicaâs experiences align with the themes of horror as a tool for mental wellness.Why You Should Listen:
This bonus episode isnât just about revisiting Monicaâs incredible life; itâs about exploring the power of owning your story. Monicaâs raw honesty, dark humor, and relentless spirit remind us that even the most challenging twists in life can lead to transformative growth. Whether youâre here for her wit, her wisdom, or her unwavering courage, this episode will leave you inspired to face your own shadows.
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In this episode of Family Twist, Corey and Kendall sit down with Jill Krizinovich, better known by her pen name, Margo Reilly. Jill is the author of the forthcoming memoir When You Shake the Family Tree and its predecessor When the Apple Falls Far from the Tree. Jill shares her remarkable journey of resilience and self-discovery, navigating family secrets, a shocking DNA discovery, and the ripple effects of generational trauma.
Unearthing Grit, Family Secrets and Finding StrengthListen as Jill reveals the origins of her pen name, the grit it took to overcome a tumultuous childhood, and her determination to uncover and tell her truth. Corey and Kendall connect with Jill on a deeply personal level, discussing the shared challenges of DNA surprises and how finding community has transformed their experiences. This heartfelt conversation will inspire anyone grappling with identity, family, and the quest for belonging.
Timestamps:
00:00 â 03:45: Welcome and introductions; Jillâs snow-filled New England backdrop
03:46 â 10:32: Jillâs alter ego, Margo Reilly: The meaning behind the name
10:33 â 20:15: Jillâs childhood challenges and the development of her resilience
20:16 â 33:55: The DNA discovery that changed Jillâs life
33:56 â 42:30: Navigating family rejection and acceptance
42:31 â 51:20: Writing for healing: Jillâs journey to sharing her truth
51:21 â 58:00: The power of community in healing family wounds
58:01 â 1:02:30: Closing thoughts and Jillâs hopes for her readers
Resources and Links:
Preorder Jillâs memoir: When You Shake the Family Tree (Available December 12th, 2024)Read Jillâs first book: When the Apple Falls Far from the TreeFollow Jill (Margo Reilly) on Instagram and FacebookLearn more about DNA surprises and community resources at Untangling Our RootsKey Takeaways:
Resilience can stem from even the most challenging experiences and guide us through unimaginable revelations.Family secrets may feel protective in the moment but often lead to generational harm.Building a supportive community is a critical part of healing from DNA surprises and family estrangement.Sharing our stories can bring clarity and catharsisâand help others feel less alone.Listener Challenge:
If Jillâs story resonated with you, take a moment to reflect on how family secrets have impacted your life. Consider journaling, reaching out to someone you trust, or exploring your own genealogy as a step toward understanding and healing.
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Welcome to a special Thanksgiving episode of Family Twist! As the holiday season kicks off, Corey and Kendall take a brief pause to share heartfelt moments of gratitude and reflect on Thanksgiving traditions from their childhoods to today. From Kendallâs memories of his fatherâs long holiday weekends and lively house-hopping parties in Missouri to Coreyâs packed family gatherings and their early days hosting âThanksgiving orphansâ in California, this episode is full of nostalgic warmth and humor.
Turning Thanksgiving Memories into TraditionsNow living in New England, the tradition continues as Corey and Kendall celebrate Thanksgiving with Kendallâs brother and extended family, complete with delicious food, laughs, and a sweet dog named Clover, who dreams of turkey leftovers.
The duo also teases exciting plans for Family Twist in 2025, including crossover episodes with their sister podcast, Horror Heals, and an upcoming milestone before the end of the year.
Whether youâre prepping the turkey or driving to your Thanksgiving destination, take a quick break with Corey and Kendall as they bring the spirit of family and gratitude to your day.
What Youâll Hear in This Episode:
Kendallâs childhood Thanksgiving traditions, including his dadâs long weekends and house-hopping parties.
Coreyâs familyâs rotating Thanksgiving hosting schedule and packed celebrations.
Stories of hosting âThanksgiving orphansâ in California.
Thanksgiving with the Clarks in New England and the beloved family dog, Clover.
A sneak peek at whatâs coming for Family Twist in 2025.
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For Shirley, life was a mystery with pieces that never quite fitâuntil a DNA test in 2001 revealed the unthinkable truth: she had been switched at birth. Raised in one family and belonging by blood to another, Shirleyâs world was upended. In her memoir, The Little Dark One: A True Story of Switched at Birth, she recounts the trials and triumphs that followed, from grappling with family secrets to finding her place in a supportive community of adoptees and others with similar experiences.
When Corey and Kendall met Shirley at the Untangling Our Roots Summit, they immediately connected with her story. In a space filled with adoptees, NPEs, and donor-conceived individuals, Shirley found her tribeâpeople who understood the weight of family secrets and the power of shared experiences. Shirley describes the summit as âa group of nodding headsâ who listened with empathy, providing the understanding she longed for but couldnât find elsewhere.
Beyond her discovery, Shirleyâs story is also about resilience and betrayal. After locating her biological family, she faced a heartbreaking betrayal when family members sold her story to tabloids. Despite this, Shirley found solace and love through her chosen family, including her beloved Aunt Mary, who welcomed her into her heritage and taught her the traditions of her roots. âDNA does not make a family, love does,â Shirley says, a mantra that has guided her through the twists and turns of her journey.
Writing The Little Dark One was a cathartic process for Shirley, bringing to light the emotions sheâd buried for decades. She discovered how trauma had manifested in her physical health and found healing not only through writing but also through faith. âMy body was falling apart,â she recalls, crediting therapy for saving her and helping her confront the past.
Shirleyâs journey is a story of self-acceptance, healing, and the enduring strength of the human spirit. Her message resonates with all who struggle to find where they belong, reminding us that healing is possible and that sometimes, family is found where we least expect it.
Read Shirley's book, The Little Dark One: A True Story of Switched at Birth, available on Amazon and in local bookstores.
Switched at Birth, Saved by LoveEpisode Summary: In this powerful episode, Corey and Kendall speak with Shirley, the courageous author of The Little Dark One: A True Story of Switched at Birth. Shirley shares her remarkable journey of self-discovery, healing, and the power of faith after uncovering a life-altering truth: she was switched at birth. Together, they dive into the emotional and physical toll of her experience, the betrayals she faced, and the strength she found through her chosen family and the community of adoptees, NPEs, and donor-conceived individuals. This episode delves deep into themes of rejection, identity, forgiveness, and the resilience it takes to turn pain into purpose.
Key Topics Discussed:
Finding Community and Belonging: Shirley recounts her experience at the Untangling Our Roots Summit, where, for the first time, she felt truly understood by people with similar stories of family twists and hidden truths.
Discovering She Was Switched at Birth: Shirley details her journey of discovery, piecing together her past and finding her biological family in the early days of DNA testing and research.
Betrayal and Resilience: The painful experience of family members selling her story to tabloids and how she learned to find strength amidst betrayal.
Faith as a Foundation: Shirleyâs journey through her faith and how it provided her with solace, strength, and a foundation for healing.
Healing Through Writing: How writing The Little Dark One uncovered buried trauma and contributed to her healing, both emotionally and physically.
The Power of Chosen Family: Shirley shares touching stories of her Aunt Mary and others in her biological family who...
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In part two of this eye-opening conversation, Kendall Stulce and Rich Uhrlaub pick up where they left off, diving even deeper into the emotional highs and lows of the adoption journey. This episode unveils the unfiltered realities adoptees face, from unexpected family rejections to the healing power of creative expression. Rich continues sharing insights into his musical For the Record(s), a powerful work that voices the silenced stories of adoptees and birth families, capturing the struggle to reclaim identity amid a culture of secrecy.
This Episode Will Change How You See Adoption
Kendall and Rich also explore the social and psychological impact of adoption. They discuss their own paths to self-discovery, reflecting on how the need for answers transcends personal histories and taps into universal human questions. For anyone who has ever felt like a âsecond-tierâ relative or struggled to make sense of their past, this episode is a powerful reminder that healing is possibleâeven in the face of silence and denial.
Key Takeaways:
Art as a Means of Healing: Rich shares how creating For the Record(s) allowed him to process deep-seated emotions around his adoption, turning personal pain into a universally resonant story.The Complexities of Family Reunions: Kendall and Rich reflect on the bittersweet reunions with biological families, revealing how relationships donât always meet the expectations that adoptees carry with them.Navigating Rejection and Silence: This episode shines a light on the emotional impact of being excluded from family milestones and the frustration adoptees face when denied basic truths about their origins.Advocating for Adoptee Rights: Rich discusses his continued work in adoption advocacy, including his role in legislative changes that aim to give adoptees the right to know their biological roots.Quotes from the Episode:
âSometimes reconnecting with family doesnât feel like a happy ending; it feels like starting a whole new story with no guarantees.â - Kendall StulceâArt gives us a way to channel the emotions we canât put into words. For me, For the Record(s) became that voice.â - Rich UhrlaubâThe right to know where we come from is as fundamental as it getsâwhy is that still so controversial?â - Rich UhrlaubEpisode Highlights:
Turning Pain into Performance - Rich reveals how the creation of For the Record(s) helped him make sense of his adoption story, transforming personal struggles into a story that resonates widely.Expectations vs. Reality in Family Reunions - Both Kendall and Rich share candid stories of meeting biological family members and the challenges that arise when reality doesnât align with dreams.Breaking the Silence - This conversation unpacks the pain and frustration adoptees feel when denied basic truths about their origins, and the emotional toll of facing family rejections.Fighting for Adopteesâ Rights - Rich emphasizes the importance of advocating for adoptee rights, sharing his experience of helping to bring legislative change in Colorado.
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