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If thereâs one thing weâve learned throughout this show, itâs that people can thrive at work not in spite of their differences, but because of them. People with learning and thinking differences like ADHD, dyslexia, and dyscalculia all have strengths. But sometimes it takes finding the right job â and the right tools â to allow them to shine.
In this final episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?!, host Eleni Matheou looks back at themes weâve seen from guests in the series. Tune in to learn how taking a chance, experimenting with strategies, and asking for support can help you on your career path.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts.
Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Itâs the last interview for Howâd You Get THAT Job?! For this special episode, our guest is Nathan Friedman, co-president and chief marketing officer at Understood.org. Nathan was diagnosed with ADHD and dyslexia as a child. Early in his career, he didnât openly discuss his learning and thinking differences. But now he recognizes the value of being vulnerable and embracing them.
Today, Nathan is helping shape the world so people with learning and thinking differences can thrive.
Nathan went from a political science degree at Washington University in St. Louis to the world of marketing. He started as an assistant account executive at Ogilvy and at 27 became their youngest managing director. He went on to start his own company before joining Understood, where he oversees marketing and provides operational and strategic support.
Listen to Nathanâs insights into the power of advocacy, finding relatable role models, and creating a supportive network.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts.
Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Dr. Loucresie Rupert is a child, adolescent, and adult psychiatrist with ADHD. She wasnât diagnosed with ADHD until she was a medical intern. Now, being open with her patients about her own neurodivergence allows her to connect with them â and be the best doctor she can be.
Loucresie didnât have an easy time getting her diagnosis as a Black woman. When she first sought an evaluation, she was labeled as narcissistic and told she wasnât smart enough to be in medical school, even though she was already attending one. After failing a two-day licensing test she had trouble focusing on, she knew it was time to get a second opinion. Now, sheâs a co-founder of the organization Physician Women SOAR (Support, Organize, Advocate, Reclaim).
Tune in to this weekâs episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?! to hear more about the intersectionality of being a Black woman with ADHD, racism in the medical community, and Loucresieâs upcoming podcast.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Kristjana Williams is a London-based Icelandic artist with dyslexia. She wasnât diagnosed until she was 25 and attending Central Saint Martins, an art school with many students who learn and think differently. Now, sheâs a renowned collage artist with her own studio.
Growing up in Iceland with undiagnosed dyslexia was frustrating for Kristjana. She would try so hard to accomplish her work, but she just couldnât quite get it without the support that she needed. Today, she knows that her brain works differently, and she leans into her strengths. Itâs why her work is so creative and comes together naturally.
Listen to this weekâs episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?! to hear more about how Kristjanaâs dyslexia affects her memory, and how it led her to the collage art medium.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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AideĂ© ChĂĄvez Frescas is a senior social media manager at Understood. She also has ADHD and creates her own social media content that has gone viral again and again. She shares about her life as a Mexican person living in the United States, and the intersection of being Latina and having ADHD. Her videos and posts help end stigma and show others theyâre not alone.
Understood is the first workplace where AideĂ© has been open about her ADHD. She felt comfortable disclosing because of Understoodâs mission to help people who learn and think differently thrive. In the past, she relied on masking her symptoms, toning her energy and personality down to fit into spaces. Now, AideĂ© is proud to be herself at work. And she encourages her team to do the same.
Hear how AideĂ© thought masking her ADHD was code-switching at first â plus her formula for going viral.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Alex Gilbert is a career coach and consultant with ADHD and dyslexia. She helps people with learning and thinking differences navigate their day-to-day work â and play to their strengths. After working in leadership development for years, she pursued her dream and started her own coaching business, Cape-Able Consulting.
Because Alex was diagnosed at age 8, she had accommodations throughout school. During college, she realized that all of these supports would disappear when she graduated. So she started a mentorship program at her university to help those with learning and thinking differences prepare for ârealâ life. Sheâs been in love with coaching others ever since. Now, Alex helps others learn about how they work best, try out tools, and advocate for themselves.
Listen to hear more about red flags in the workplace, and how to tell the difference between challenging and hard.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Dan Reis is a product designer at an e-commerce startup â and a listener of the podcast! Like many others, Dan saw his coping skills vanish during the COVID-19 lockdown. This led to him finally getting diagnosed with ADHD.
Since then, Dan has made it his mission to explore different tools to build his own âADHD toolkit.â Through trial and error, he modifies strategies to work for him. And he uses these tools to get his work done. Through self-compassion, routine changes, and experimentation, heâs understanding himself better. And, as is true for so many of us, he knows thereâs still a long way to go.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Rachel Basoco has ADHD, and she works in two very different industries. Sheâs a full-time director of advancement and growth for digital communities at Fidelity. She also works part time for 11:11 Media, Paris Hiltonâs company, building their Web3 community. She considers herself âthe finance bro AND the finance broâs girlfriend.â
Having two very different jobs makes planning the workday easier for Rachel. She can be flexible with her schedule, pivoting from one project to another when her brain gets bored. And in both positions, she works on her passion: fostering community.
Listen to this weekâs episode to hear how Rachel developed a community among Latina business owners. Plus, gather advice for self-advocating to your managers.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Gil Gershoni is the founder and creative director of the branding firm Gershoni Creative. He says that everything he does, he does dyslexic.
Gil sees dyslexia as a hyper-ability. His goal is to show the world that dyslexic thinkers can open new doors and innovate anything.
Along with Gershoni Creative, Gil created Dyslexic Design Thinking, a method that helps clients see new perspectives and tell the story of their brand. Gil also hosts Dyslexic Design Thinking, a podcast that explores the link between dyslexia and creativity. Through these outlets, Gil spotlights dyslexic thinkers and ideas.
Listen to this weekâs episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?! to learn more about Gilâs approach to changing the dyslexia disability narrative, and how he advocates for neurodiverse teams.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Claire Odom has always worked in the disability inclusion world, even before she knew she had ADHD. When she related a little bit too much to everyoneâs answers in an ADHD focus group, she knew it was time to get evaluated.
Now, Claire is a psychotherapist at a private practice that embraces neurodiversity. Sheâs also a disability inclusion consultant for Understoodâs Workplace team, which focuses on building stronger, more equitable, and more inclusive work environments.
Listen to this weekâs episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?! for advice on how to navigate the workplace with learning and thinking differences.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Michael Upshall Senior and Junior both have ADHD. This father-and-son duo doubles as boss and employee in their carpentry business, Probuilt Design + Build. In both work and life, they understand how the other thinks.
For Michael Sr., school never matched how his brain worked, and he left high school in the 10th grade. Thatâs when he took up an apprenticeship, eventually starting his own business. Heâs now a master carpenter. And he was diagnosed with ADHD in 2012.
Michael Jr. was diagnosed when he entered high school, so he got the support to help him finish school. Heâs been working at his fatherâs business since he was 12. Now, as an adult, heâs learning the ropes of running a business â while picking up ADHD strategies from his father along the way.
Listen to this weekâs episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?! for our first interview with two guests. Get tips to keep track of your thoughts, and learn why contracting could be the right fit for you.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Darcey Gohring was diagnosed with dyslexia as a child. But she didnât feel comfortable disclosing her dyslexia at work until she was a manager. She was scared that her co-workers in the editing and writing world would look at her work differently. Now, she teaches writing classes and is an editor at Zibby Magazine.
When Darcey was diagnosed, her father didnât believe that her dyslexia was real. He thought she just needed to âtry harder.â This shame followed her into adulthood. And it made her worry about what her colleagues would think of her learning difference. But when she got her promotion, she realized that she didnât need to worry. Now, as a manager and teacher, she supports others in being vulnerable and sharing their stories.
Listen in to hear more about disclosure in the workplace, and how Darceyâs own life experience inspired her upcoming novel.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about âHowâd You Get THAT Job?!â and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Isaac Zablocki always had messy handwriting and trouble getting his thoughts down on paper. When he was growing up, teachers in both Israel and the United States assumed his challenges had to do with switching between languages. It wasnât until college that he was diagnosed with dysgraphia, dyslexia, and ADHD.
Because it was hard for Isaac to express himself through writing, he found himself drawn to film. Now, heâs the director of film programming at the Jewish Community Center (JCC) Manhattan. Heâs also the co-founder of the ReelAbilities Film Festival, the largest U.S. film festival dedicated to showcasing films by or about people with disabilities. Learn how Isaacâs work in the disability film world highlights differences and promotes stories of those who are often unheard.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Trying to figure out the right job can be challenging â and feel pretty lonely â especially when you have learning and thinking differences. But luckily, there are ways to smooth your career path, and people to get advice from.
In this bonus episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?!, host Eleni Matheou shares what weâve heard throughout the show so far, and things weâve learned. Tune in to explore common threads, like trying new things and being open to failure. Listen now to learn how to stack your skills into the perfect combo for both you and your employer.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences in the U.S. can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2022 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Dina Ragab is a lawyer with ADHD working on the California high-speed rail project. Dina has always known that she was âneurospicy,â but therapists couldnât see past her anxiety to the ADHD underneath. It wasnât until after law school that she was diagnosed, went on medication, and realized there were ways to manage her sometimes all-consuming emotions.
Dinaâs job path wasnât always a smooth one. She went through a few positions and work environments until she found the honest, straightforward boss that she needed. In this weekâs episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?!, hear Dina describe her journey through misdiagnosis â and how self-advocacy is an opportunity for co-workers to take one anotherâs needs into consideration.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences in the U.S. can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2022 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Omar Mouallem is a journalist and filmmaker with ADHD. Omar has worn many hats â journalist, documentary filmmaker, âfake deanâ of his self-made school Pandemic University School of Writing, and real professor â all without a college degree. When he began writing Praying to the West, he struggled to focus on one topic for an entire book. That led Omar to his ADHD diagnosis.
As a freelance writer for many years, Omar flourished as his busy mind moved from project to project. Heâs won awards for his investigative journalism, where hyperfocusing down research rabbit holes is a strength. When the pandemic hit, and work dried up overnight, he had a lot to reconsider. Listen to this weekâs episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?! to hear how he got his start from a Craigslist ad â and how impulsivity can actually work in your favor.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences in the U.S. can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2022 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Delia Gallegos combined her love of fandoms with her business experience to create the perfect job for her ADHD. Delia is the chief financial officer of Black Nerds Create (BNC), a collective for marginalized creators to make fandom content.
Delia first joined BNC as a side hobby to her business operations career. But during the pandemic, she took part in the great resignation and left a job she loved at the Smithsonian. Delia realized that everything she loved about that job was about being there. Without the stimuli of in-person work, she couldnât get a thing done. Deliaâs resignation led her to transition her hobby to full time when she saw that BNC could use her business skills.
Listen to this weekâs episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?! for tips on forming habits with ADHD â and how sometimes you need to throw everything against the wall to see what sticks.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences in the U.S. can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2022 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Scottie Donovan is a New York City wastewater engineer with ADHD. When she entered the field, being on the frontlines of a pandemic wasnât what she expected. But since wastewater helps determine positive COVID-19 cases, sheâs played a vital role in public health information. Sheâs also heard enough poop jokes to last a lifetime.
Scottie chose to study civil engineering because of how interactive it is. Sheâs worked in water treatment plants, and eventually found herself at a desk job in a consulting role. This transition wasnât the easiest for her ADHD. But with tools like lists and time chunking, she makes her days work for her. In this weekâs episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?!, get Scottieâs tips for being honest about how much work you can take on. Plus, get a history lesson on how the sewer system advanced our civilization.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences in the U.S. can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2022 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Luke Kolpin is a chef with dyslexia. Heâs cooked in high-pressure environments, from Top Chef to the critically acclaimed Noma in Copenhagen.
Luke didnât have the best relationship with school when he was first diagnosed with dyslexia. After high school, he started taking community college courses. But he still wondered what he really wanted to do. Thatâs when his best friend suggested culinary school. After all, Lukeâs nickname was Lunchbox when he was a kid.
Culinary school changed Lukeâs world. He excelled in the hands-on work â but he also had to get past the academics. A teacher who recognized his skill set made all the difference.
In this weekâs episode of Howâd You Get THAT Job?!, Luke shares how he handles challenges that bring up old anxieties â and that asking for help is OK.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people with learning and thinking differences in the U.S. can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2022 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Hanna Brooks Olsen is a freelance writer with ADHD. Coming to her ADHD diagnosis was a long journey. Like so many, Hanna thought ADHD was purely hyperactivity, and she didnât fit that description. But when she learned about the inattentive aspect of ADHD, she saw the connection to her life. She realized that her ADHD symptoms were intertwined with her bipolar disorder, anxiety, and eating disorder.
As a freelance writer, Hanna does it all â from editing nonprofit newsletters to writing tweets. But she didnât set out to become a jack-of-all-trades writer. Like many college graduates, she just wanted to earn enough money to pay her rent and student loans. After working a few odd jobs, Hanna discovered that she could use her skills on her own time to do what she loves: write.
To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.
We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at [email protected].
Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about Howâd You Get THAT Job?! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2022 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved.
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