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Is working in management consulting as glamorous as it seems? Whatās the best thing you can do to improve your public speaking skills? How can you use different pricing strategies to scale up your business?
Welcome back to How They Get Stuff Done. Today Iām speaking with Judson Rollins. Judson is an aviation strategy consultant and a monetization architect for expert service providers who want to decouple their revenue from their hours.
Judson and I discuss finding the middle ground between perfection and acceptability, the pros and cons of time blocking, Judsonās favorite ways to capture ideas on the go and even in the shower, and more. Enjoy the conversation.
Find Judson:
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Why does Game of Thrones cost $70,000 to watch? What happens when you choose to believe that everything is your responsibility? And why do smart people not think that others are stupid?
Welcome back to How They Get Stuff Done. Today Iām speaking with Derek Sivers.
Derek Sivers has been a musician, a circus performer, an entrepreneur, and a TED speaker. Heās the founder of CD Baby, an online distributor of independent music. Heās written several books, including How to Live and Hell Yeah or No. Most recently, heās been working on his latest book, Useful Not True.Derek and I discuss choosing your beliefs, taking radical responsibility for whatever happens to you, the benefits of not having a to-do list, walking away from what doesnāt work for you, and more. Enjoy the conversation.
Find Derek over at sive.rs.
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Jack Ellis is the co-founder of Fathom Analytics, a privacy-first Google Analytics alternative. Jack also teaches an online course on Laravel, a popular PHP framework, and hosts his own podcast, Above Board, where he discusses running an indie and bootstrapped software company.
Jack and I discuss:
How he runs his company people-firstWhat happens when you judge your employees on their work, rather than on other measuresLightweight ways of collaborating with a small teamThe importance of online privacy and how his company enables thatWhy running a lifestyle business is just the bestOvercoming analysis paralysisThe big downside of working remotelyāor is it even a downside?Why I donāt give specific advice for people with ADHD (or other conditions)And much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Jack:
JackEllis.meFathom Analytics, privacy-focused website analyticsServerless Laravel, Jackās course for Laravel developersAbove Board, the Fathom Analytics podcast, which Jack co-hostsAlso mentioned:
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Floris van der Pol is a Dutch philosopher, writer, and self-described āreading addictā. He publishes book reviews on YouTube as well as videos on reading more generally and on living without a smartphone, which he has done for years now. Floris also writes a newsletter with essays on philosophy and literature.
I met Floris in a course I was taking on YouTubeāthe Part-Time YouTuber Academy by Ali Abdaal, if youāre curiousāin which Floris gave me fantastic feedback on some of my own YouTube videos. We got to chatting and some of his YouTube videos impressed me so much that I wanted to get him on the show.
Floris and I discuss:
How he reads 100 books a yearWhat itās like to live without a smartphoneHow he designed his life to improve his attention spanGetting stuff done with a baby aroundWhether video gaming qualifies as an addictionAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Floris:
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Derrick Reimer is the founder of SavvyCal, a tool for scheduling meetings that both you and the people you are scheduling with will love. He's also the co-founder of Drip, a marketing automation tool, and he is the host of the Art of Product podcast.
I have long enjoyed using an app to schedule my meetings. For example, I scheduled meetings with my coaching clients. Rather than going back and forth with endless emails, trying to find a mutually convenient time. I just send people a link so they can book a slot on my calendar. I had been using a different tool, but recently I discovered SavvyCal and it's so much more enjoyable to use. So I looked into who created it and I ended up on Derrick's Twitter account. I learned that Derrick had co-founded Drip, which was one of the first apps I used years ago when I was first building my online business. And I have very fond memories of Drip, even though I no longer use it because Drip went into a different direction.
Anyway, I was interested to hear Derrickās storyāand it turns out there were quite a few ups and downs.
Derrick and I discuss:
Regaining your confidence after launching a failed productTransitioning from wearing all the hats in a business to delegating certain tasksSaving your most productive time for your most valuable workFind Derrick and Savvycal:
SavvyCal.comDerrick on TwitterDerrickās podcast, The Art of ProductNote: the link to SavvyCal is an affiliate link. Itās an awesome product and by signing up through this link, you get a free month and you support the podcast. Thank you.
Also mentioned:
Derrickās popular blog post, āIām Walking Away From the Product I Spent a Year BuildingāDrip, the marketing automation business Derrick co-foundedThe Mom Test by Rob FitzpatrickTiny Seed, an accelerator for SaaS bootstrappersxFusion, which offers support staff for SaaS -
Dianna Allen is the founder of two businesses: TERRA, a lifestyle shop that focuses on scented candles and Inventora, an app that helps businesses who handmade products track their inventory.
I first heard about Dianna earlier this yearāor perhaps it was last yearāwhen my girlfriend mentioned some girl who said she was starting a candle shop and was tweeting about her journey publicly. A bunch of time passed and then recently, my girlfriend said hey, remember this girl I mentioned who started her own candle shop? I think it has really taken off. She even has a spin-off business now. So I was intrigued! I quickly found out that Diannaās story is so inspiring and thatās why I wanted to get her on the podcast.
Dianna and I discuss:
How she went from writing about garage doors to starting and growing two successful businessesHow a combination of hard work and good time propelled her businesses forwardHow she and her boyfriend work together and split their time between the businessesAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Dianna and her businesses:
Lifestyle and candle business TERRA: TerraSimply.comInventory tracking business Inventora: Inventora.coDianna on Twitter: @diannamallen -
Steph Smith is a growth marketer, writer, and indie maker. She works for The Hustle, helping to run one of the worldās largest newsletters. But she has lots of her own projects. She has written a book about content marketing, she runs an online course about time management, and she has a podcast about, quote, āshit you donāt learn in schoolā, unquote.
When I first encountered Steph on Twitter, I sensed that she and I have very similar views on productivity, so I was keen to get her on the podcast. Steph and I discuss:
Why in the past there was no such things as āprioritiesāājust the singular āpriorityāStephās method for choosing which goal to work on nextWhy asynchronous communication is often more efficient (and how Steph does it)Whether you should set arbitrary deadlines for yourself (Steph likes them, Peter doesnāt)And much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Steph:
stephsmith.ioStephās open page, including her current goalsStephās book, Doing Content RightStephās course, Doing Time RightStephās podcast, Shit You Donāt Learn in SchoolAlso mentioned:
Loom, for recording & sharing videos easilyCalendly, for scheduling meetings without the back-and-forthGet TikTok Famous Fast, a fun little book aboutā¦ well, thatās obviousZapier, an āif this then thatā serviceBannerBear, an app that automatically generates social media visuals etc. -
Andrew Barry helps people teach better online. He owns and runs a training business in which he helps rapidly growing companies educate their people and their customers. Separately, he works with online course creators, helping them to create engaging cohort-based courses. Andrew also hosts his own podcast, titled āHow Did You Learn That?ā
Over the past few months, Andrew kept popping up on my Twitter feed. Since I sell online coursesāmeaning, I teach people onlineāmany of his insights resonated with me. Iāve been interested in how to teach and how to learn better for many years.
I remember my ātheory of knowledgeā class in high school. In college, I was a teaching assistant for a variety of economics classes. I also worked in our collegeās writing center, helping students to improve their papers. Today, of course, I am a productivity teacher. But aside from that, learning is how we grow and enjoy life more, so we should all be interested in how to learn better.
Andrew and I discuss:
Why you want to learn from experts as well as from people who are just a little ahead of youHow to capture and keep peopleās attention in online trainingsHow he found the courage to quit his job and start his own training businessAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Andrew:
Curious Lion, Andrewās online learning businessAndrew on Twitter: @bazzarutoAndrewās podcast, How Did You Learn That?If youāre interested in Andrewās ātransformational online coursesā program, just email him at [email protected] and include āTOCā in the email subject line.
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Peterās course Big-Picture ProductivityDavid Perellās Write of Passage course -
Matt Ragland is a productivity teacher, like myself. He has worked for ConvertKit, an email service provider I use and love and for Podia, an online course platform, which I used to launch my business.
These days, he helps peopleāand particularly makers and creatorsābe more productive. He does that with courses, videos on YouTube, and on his own podcast, Connect the Dots.
Matt is really big on bullet journaling, which is quite a different experience from using digital task managers, so I was keen to chat with him about that topic.
Matt and I discuss:
How he combines bullet journaling with digital task managementHow to protect your time to do high-leverage workMeasuring productivity by how present you areAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Matt:
Mattās Three Keys to ProductivityMatt on YouTubeMattRagland.comAlso mentioned:
Paul Grahamās article Makerās Schedule, Managerās ScheduleGary Kellerās book The One ThingThe fancy Leuchtturm Bullet JournalMichael Hyattās Full Focus Planner -
āIf you are not interested in helping your clients, then you should just stick to employment.ā
Jonathan Stark is a former software developer who is on a mission to rid the world of hourly billing. He is the author of Hourly Billing Is Nuts, the host of the Ditching Hourly podcast, and writes a daily newsletter on pricing for independent professionals. Jonathan has also written a number of books, offers a coaching program, and runs live group courses.
I ran into Jonathanās writings a few years ago, when I was first learning about the world of online business. I was pursuing a business idea that didnāt end up going anywhereāmore on that in the episodeābut while doing research, I discovered Jonathanās ideas about how to run a service-based business and those ideas blew my mind.
Jonathan and I discuss:
Why marketing isnāt bullshitThe role that aligned incentives play in building trust with clientsWhat Jonathanās daily workflow is likeAnd much more. Oh, and Karl Marx makes an appearance. Enjoy the show!
Find Jonathan:
JonathanStark.comAn introduction to Jonathanās ideas: JonathanStark.com/freeJonathanās book, Hourly Billing Is NutsJonathanās podcast Ditching HourlyJonathanās other podcast, The Business of AuthorityJonathanās daily mailing list -
āIt was always in the back of my mind: what am I going to do for dinner? ā¦ Having what Iām going to cook sorted out releases my mental energy.ā
Brigitte Gemme is a researcher by training. She has a PhD in sociology and she worked at the intersection of government, universities, and industry, particularly on the topic of natural resource management in Canada. These days, however, Brigitte does something completely different: she offers a vegan meal-planning service.
I met Brigitte a few years ago when she and I were both starting our online businesses. I wanted to chat and catch up with her because she left her research career and has such a different life now, running a small online business. It was particularly interesting to me because Brigitteās work involves vegan food and I am vegan myself.
Brigitte and I discuss:
What working in research and in a large organization was likeHow you can optimize your cooking and nutrition with project-management skillsWhy you should consider a plant-based dietAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Brigitte:
VeganFamilyKitchen.comBrigitteās 5-day Planned and Plant-Based ChallengeBrigitteās meal plans, which I use and love Vegan Family Kitchen on Instagram
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āIt doesnāt have to be perfect consistency. It doesnāt have to be every single day. If you intended to work out five days this week, but you only got twoā¦ youāre still exercising.ā
Dave Ceddia is a user interface developer. He builds UIs with React, a Javascript library, and he also teaches people how to use React in a book and a course, both called Pure React.
Lately, Dave has been working on a new project called Recut. If youāve ever edited video, you might have had to spend quite some time editing out silent portions of your recording. Recut automatically cuts the silence out of your videos. Itās a nifty app and you should check it out if you often edit videos.
Dave and I discuss:
Being productive in bursts, aka āseasons of productivityāWhy iOS and macOS apps tend to be higher quality than apps in other ecosystemsHow he uses Things 3 to manage the development work for his app RecutAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Dave:
DaveCeddia.comRecut, an app for removing silence from videosDaveās 101-second video demonstrating how Recut worksDaveās React book and course, Pure ReactAlso mentioned:
The Day One journaling appSteph Crowderās website Courage & ClarityCal Newportās Time Block Planner -
Janelle Allen helps business owners optimize their marketing strategy. For example, she recently worked with Crowdcast, a webinar platform, and if you check out Crowdcastās website today, youāll see that itās so clear compared with what it used to be like.
Janelle also teaches small groups of primarily service-based business owners to create and market online courses. With a background in writing as well as in instructional design, you can see why sheās good at what she does.
Some time ago, I worked with Janelle to improve my businessās marketing funnel. She helped me to clarify my strategy and to identify gaps that I couldnāt have spotted myself. Sheās full of good ideas, so I was excited when she agreed to come on to the show.
Janelle and I discuss:
How she translates her vision into action using the āVTOā approach, in NotionThe importance of having a mission for pushing through any resistance you might feel to your workWhy you shouldnāt use a coach as your therapistAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Janelle:
JanelleAllen.comJanelleās newsletterJanelle on YouTubeJanelle on TwitterJanelle on InstagramAlso mentioned:
Traction by Gino WickmanThe information management app NotionThe Color of Law by Richard RothsteinThe video messaging app Loom -
āEmail is like trying to save money, but every day walking through the mall.ā
Jesse Mecham is the founder of You Need a Budget, or YNAB, an app that helps you gain control of your money. Until just a few weeks ago, Jesse was also the CEO of YNAB, a company with more than a hundred employees. He has also written a book and he hosts a podcast, both of which are also titled You Need a Budget. Oh, and did I mention that Jesse has seven kids?
I was keen to speak with Jesse not only because I used YNAB for years and heartily recommend it, but also because Jesse has a very thoughtful approach to his productivity. Thereās a lot of parallels between budgeting and task management and we really get into that in this episode.
Jesse and I discuss:
How adding structure can help you feel free (when it comes to budgeting as well as to time management)Creating a work culture that emphasizes outcomes rather than ābutts in seatsāHow Jesse used Things 3 to support the writing of his bookAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Jesse and YNAB:
Try YNAB for free for 34 days (no credit card required)You Need a Budget podcastJesseās book, You Need a BudgetYNAB on TikTokYNAB on TwitterAlso mentioned:
Cal Newportās Deep WorkNassim Talebās Antifragile -
Today, Iām telling you my story.
Many people have asked me to share my story and to explain how I work and why I do the things the way I do. So this is a solo episode, just me telling you about my life over the past nine years.
Some topics I cover:
What working as an economic/litigation consultant for a top firm was likeHow I burned out and what burnout did to meThe symptoms of burnout and which ones I suffered fromMy āwantrepreneuringā journeyA few failed online businesses I tried to startHow my business finally got off the ground and now pays my billsWhat I still struggle with todayHow you can use my story to reflect on your own productivityThings I mentioned:
Free mini-course: Choosing the Right Task Manager for YouMy course Get Stuff Done with OmniFocus 3My course Organize Your Life with Things 3Sign up for my newsletter: peterakkies.net -
āIf you only have two hours a day and you need to get paid, is posting to Instagram Stories really gonna put money in your bank account?ā
Graham Cochrane is an entrepreneur, podcaster, YouTuber, and business coach. In 2009, after getting laid off twice in one year, he started to teach people how to record professional-sounding music from home. That business, the Recording Revolution, took off and today the Recording Revolution YouTube channel has 600,000 subscribers.
Teaching people online transformed Grahamās life. So, a few years, ago he decided to teach others how to follow his path. For this second business, Graham runs a YouTube channel as well as a podcast, The Graham Cochrane Show. Iām a big fan of Grahamās podcast and you should check that out even if youāre not super into online businessāhe often shares fantastic productivity techniques.
Graham and I discuss:
Eliminating tasks for which you canāt prove that they matterWhat to do if you want to work less (but are worried about what might happen if you do)Why you should think like an entrepreneur (even if you work in corporate)Why Graham believes in time blocking and how he uses that techniqueAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Graham:
GrahamCochrane.comGrahamās podcast, The Graham Cochrane ShowGrahamās business on recording music at home: the Recording Revolution@thegrahamcochrane on InstagramAlso mentioned: Tim Ferrissās bestselling book, The 4-Hour Workweek
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āIf I have something on my calendar that Iām dreading, I have to be really careful about it. If I let myself get obsessed with the fact that I donāt want to do it, then it can throw off my entire day.ā
Corbett Barr has been self-employed on the Internet since 2005, earning a living from blogging, podcasting, online courses, software services, and more. He is perhaps best known for being the founder and CEO of Fizzle, a community and library of courses for independent entrepreneurs who want to make a living online.
I first got in touch with Corbett back in 2016 or 2017, when I joined Fizzle. I learned much of what I know about running an online business from him. Corbett has such a wide variety of skills. Heās been a corporate consultant, he has founded several businesses, and he also does a lot of creative work, having written over 500 blog posts and published more than 400 podcast episodes. So I was very excited to ask him about his approach to productivity.
Corbett and I discuss:
Digital minimalism (or at least digital mindfulness) and why heās been cleaning up his online presenceWhy you need a āNorth Starā to measure your productivityHow to do creative work (as opposed to cranking widgets)Operating within the constraints that you have but also challenging those constraintsAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Corbett:
CorbettBarr.comFizzle.coCorbettās blog post, āIām Starting Overā -
āIf I would have heard me ten years ago, I would have been likeā¦ that lady is on something. Like, you cannot get things done like that. And yet, I accomplish so much more now.ā
Jessica Eley is a mindset coach for high-achievers. She helps them reach their big goals without feeling shitty in the process.
Wondering what a mindset coach is? You might hire a fitness coach to help you improve your physical fitness. In the same way, you hire a mindset coach to improve your mental fitness.
Iām particularly excited to share this conversation with you because Jessica has coached me on and off over the years and still does from time to time. She was instrumental in helping me get my business off the ground as I was recovering from burnout. Iāve learned so much from her and I know you will too.
Jessica and I discuss:
Whether setting goals is at all necessaryWhy youāll always feel shitty if you donāt know WHY you want thingsWhy clarity comes from taking action (and not from ever-more planning)And much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Jessica:
JessicaEley.comOther podcasts sheās been on (scroll down the page)Jessicaās blogJessica on Instagram: @iamjesseley -
āIād rather be really working when Iām working and really be with my kid when Iām with my kid.ā
Marina DĆaz is a psychologist and online course creator. Her courses cover a variety of topics: one is a therapeutic writing course based on Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). Another teaches how to build an effective morning routineāsomething we discuss in our conversation as wellāand a third course is about planning your days with a bullet journal.
On top of that, Marina runs a monthly membership that includes group coaching calls as well as a physical magazine that she produces. Phew! But thatās not all. Together with her husband, Marina runs the journaling app Perspectiva, which is designed to help you build the habit of journaling. And she does all this while being the parent of a two-year oldāwhich we get into during the show.
Marina and I discuss:
Building a morning routine you loveHow to get your important work done early in the dayHow to be productive with a toddler aroundAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Marina:
Her website: Psico Supervivencia (in Spanish)Her and her husbandās journaling tool: PerspectivaResources mentioned:
Twist, a collaboration appUltraworking, remote co-workingThe book Make Time -
Today Iām speaking with Steve Pavlina. Steve is one of the worldās most successful personal development bloggers.
To date, he has had over 100 million visits to his website. Steve has also written more than 1,700 articles on a range of personal growth topics, including productivity. He offers several coursesāone of which we discuss in the episodeāand heās the author of the book Personal Development for Smart People, which has been translated into more than a dozen languages.
Steve and I discuss:
the relationship we have with our workhow FOMO can help you complete 30-day challengesthe role your heart plays in productivityAnd much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Steve:
Steveās now-very-fast website, StevePavlina.comSteveās course on character-building, StatureWatch: Steveās water fasting videos on YouTube - Mehr anzeigen
