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  • Jen Rubin talks with Yasmin Radjy, executive director of Swing Left, an organization that aims to channel resources to the most impactful elections to ensure Democrats have the balance of power. Swing Left believes that without Democratic control, nuanced policy disagreements are irrelevant because the government will be co-opted by extremists. They prioritize grassroots efforts, such as door-knocking and phone banking, to engage voters and persuade them to support Democratic candidates.
    Swing Left encourages individuals to get involved by signing up on their website and contributing their time or money to support competitive races.


  • Jen Rubin and Tom Joscelyn dissect the intricate web of events surrounding the January 6th Capitol attack and its aftermath. They scrutinize key figures, investigative findings, law enforcement failures, and the pervasive threat posed by right-wing extremist groups. Delving into the implications of accountability, they explore the potential consequences of legal actions against former President Trump, the authoritarian tendencies within his movement, and the role of media in perpetuating conspiracy narratives.

    Takeaways:
    The findings of the January 6th report have not been changed by subsequent information, and new details have only further corroborated the initial conclusions.
    Steve Bannon's involvement and communications on January 6th are of particular concern, as he was in contact with President Trump and expressed a willingness to obstruct the transfer of power.

    The investigation into the war room and its role in coordinating the attack is ongoing, and more information is needed to fully understand what happened.
    The failures of domestic law enforcement and the normalization of right-wing extremism are significant threats to American democracy.

    There are concerns about the reticence of the FBI and intelligence agencies to fully investigate and address the threat of right-wing extremist groups.

    The crimes committed by the January 6th defendants were serious, and their actions should not be downplayed or dismissed.

    Mike Pence was in danger on January 6th due to Donald Trump's targeting of him for not overturning the election results.

    The atmosphere of the January 6th committee was intense, with a focus on telling the story of what happened and holding individuals accountable.

    The Secret Service has had its share of scandals and issues, and there are concerns about its loyalty and performance.

    The erasure of emails and messages raises questions about transparency and accountability. The Espionage Act case against Donald Trump is significant and the message it sends if he is not prosecuted is dangerous.

    Trump's defense of taking classified documents and his belief that he can do anything as president reflects the authoritarian nature of his political movement.
    Right-wing media sustains an echo chamber of conspiracy theories, and defeating the insurgency requires reaching out to Republicans who do not want to be aligned with extremist ideologies.

    Losing decisively at the ballot box is necessary to initiate a reformation on the American right.

    Hope lies in the resilience of the American people and the belief that there are more people who reject extremism than those who embrace it.


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  • Jen is joined this week by Marc Elias, sign up to democracydocket.com/signup

    The conversation covers the ongoing trial involving Stormy Daniels and the implications for Donald Trump's defense lawyers. It also delves into the Supreme Court's immunity case and the potential swing vote of Justice Barrett. The discussion then shifts to voting rights and the challenges posed by the Supreme Court's decisions on the Voting Rights Act and Section 2. The conversation concludes with a focus on the latest trends in Republican efforts to suppress voting and manipulate the electorate. The conversation discusses the efforts by Republicans to pass laws that target people in cities and racial minorities, making it harder for them to vote. These laws also create opportunities for voter intimidation and cheating. Republicans are challenging laws that protect election officials from harassment and intimidation. They are using big data and AI to target voters and challenge their right to vote. The conversation emphasizes the importance of protecting democracy and the need for citizens, lawyers, and politicians to stand up for voting rights.


  • Jennifer Rubin welcomes Steve Vladeck to discuss the Supreme Courtā€™s immunity case deliberations, the decision not to expedite the appeal, and the potential implications of the decision. They explore the ideological leanings of the justices, with a focus on Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Barrett. They also delve into the concept of standing and its impact on cases, as well as the role of Congress in relation to the Court and potential reforms for the Court.




  • John Dean discusses his study of authoritarian personalities and the lessons learned from Watergate. He explains that there are two approaches to understanding authoritarianism: studying the way authoritarian governments operate and studying the personality traits of those attracted to authoritarian leaders. Dean describes the traits of social dominators and right-wing authoritarian followers, as well as the enablers who support them. He emphasizes the importance of voting them out of power and the need for collaboration between the study of authoritarian governments and authoritarian personalities. Dean also discusses the challenges of changing the beliefs of authoritarian followers and the threat they pose to democracy.

  • Jen Rubin chats with author Brian Klass about his new book, "Fluke," diving into the role of randomness in shaping events and the need to embrace uncertainty. They discuss how seemingly minor events can have major impacts and caution against overconfidence in predictions, advocating for policy experimentation and emphasizes individual responsibility in shaping the future. They also explore the challenges of social science research, urging for a nuanced perspective and action over mere worry.

    Takeaways:
    The world is far more random, complex, and unpredictable than we often imagine.
    Small, seemingly insignificant events can have significant consequences and shape the course of history.
    Social science often oversimplifies the complexity of the world, leading to misleading predictions and models.
    Policy experimentation and the use of randomness can lead to more effective solutions to social problems.
    Individual actions and decisions, no matter how small, can have far-reaching effects and should be recognized as important. Individuals have a significant impact on shaping the future through their personal actions and involvement in social and political activities.
    Taking action is more important than just worrying about the state of the world.
    Social science research is subject to biases and uncertainties, and findings can vary depending on methodologies and interpretations.
    A more nuanced understanding of the world and the recognition of individual power can lead to positive change.


  • Billy Ray discusses various movies he has worked on, including 'Breach' and 'Shattered Glass,' and delves into the complexities of understanding characters like Robert Hansen. He explores the themes of deception, confirmation bias, and the power of storytelling in politics.
    Billy emphasizes the importance of understanding conservative voters' fear of chaos and the need for Democrats to rebrand themselves as agents of stability and freedom. He also discusses the abortion issue and suggests effective messaging strategies for Democrats.
    Billy and Jen discuss the importance of Democrats appealing to the middle ground and avoiding extreme positions. They highlight the need for Democrats to call out the left and distance themselves from radical ideas that alienate voters. They also emphasize the power of framing the election as a choice between an American and an extremist, rather than a Democrat and a Republican. The conversation touches on topics such as LGBTQ+ rights, cult mentality, breaking the frame in political discussions, and the importance of addressing local issues. Overall, the conversation provides insights into effective messaging and strategy for Democrats.

    Billy Ray is an American screenwriter and film director. He has written numerous films including Captain Phillips, Richard Jewell, Breach, The Comey Rule and The Hunger Games.

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  • Jen calls for a ceasefire in the Israel-Gaza war and welcomes labor leader Michael Podhorzer. They discuss how the rural-cosmopolitan divide has framed our politics from the founding to the present day, the role white Christian nationalism has played in the rise of MAGA, the threat extremist groups pose to our freedoms, and how we can preserve our democracy. Their analysis lays out the importance of mass movements, the need to revitalize unions, and how to counter corporate media by informing the public about the dangers we face if we want our system to endure.

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  • Jen welcomes psychotherapist John Gartner to discuss the history of the psychiatric professionā€™s involvement in our elections and why the Goldwater Rule should not stand in the way of its duty to warn us about Trumpā€™s decline into dementia. They lay out how he presents symptoms of cognitive issues in line with DSM criteria by analyzing his patterns of speech, the repeated confusion of dates and names, and his uncontrolled movements. As part of their analysis, they explain how the media has gaslit the country by normalizing his mental state while pathologizing Joe Bidenā€™s age typical behavior. Will a massive public information campaign be enough to educate the country about the dangers Donald poses if he wins in 2024?

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  • Jen welcomes author and military historian Max Boot for a deep dive into the Ukraine-Russia war and to contrast the modern Republican Party with the presidency of Ronald Reagan. They discuss the situation on the ground in Eastern Europe, what Ukraine is trying to preserve in light of Russiaā€™s recent gains, the role of air power and ammunition production, and why support from the United States is essential as things become more desperate. They also break down how the Republican Party has moved away from confronting authoritarianism to condoning it, and why their isolationism is creating a historical inflection point. Do we have what it takes to support democracy at home and abroad?

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  • Jen welcomes legal maven Barb Mcquade of #SistersInLaw to discuss how malicious actors are using technology to endanger our democracy by spreading disinformation. They analyze the ways that social media, algorithm manipulation, A.I., and other tools of mass communication can erode trust in our institutions, drive radicalization and partisanship, undermine elections, and even lead to violence. With our national security increasingly at risk, they lay out how media literacy, targeted regulation, civics education, and legal action can protect us and the country from disaster.

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    Barb McQuade:
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  • Jen welcomes Professor Kathleen Belew to lay out the history of post-war white power movements in the United States leading up to MAGA, QANON conspiracy theories, and the 1/6 insurrection. They discuss how these groups recruit followers, their relationship to Trump, and the role of former military members, religion, and women in their organizations. More importantly, they explore the part that journalism, properly understood free speech, and the judicial system play in limiting their growth and ensuring that they never take control of our country.

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    Kathleen Belew:
    Twitter | Website | Northwestern University | PERIL | A Field Guide to White Supremacy | Author of ā€œBring The War Homeā€

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  • Jen welcomes political scientist Norm Ornstein to explore the rise of radicalism in the Republican party and how to defeat it. They discuss how reasonable governance ended with the Gingrich Revolution, why this election must be about saving democracy, and what will happen to our freedoms, particularly for women and the LGBT community, if Trump wins again. Then they lay out the strategies that will stop him, covering the reform of the filibuster to limit the power of a radical minority, the rule of 3 that governs how a party changes course, and stopping a coup in a worst case scenario.

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  • Jen gives an update on the presidential primaries and frames the choice facing Nikki Haley, before welcoming NY prosecutor Karen Friedman Agnifilo. As Trumpā€™s first criminal case moves to trial, they discuss why his hush money payments broke the law, the role of Michael Cohen, and the possibility of Trump racking up an additional perjury charge. They also cover the courtroom process, including jury selection, the demeanor of the judge, and Trumpā€™s possible participation, explaining how our judicial system handles a former president becoming a defendant and weighing his chances of conviction.

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  • Jen blasts Republicans for rejecting the Democratsā€™ border bill and welcomes legal expert Dennis Aftergut to break down the constitutional and legal means of stopping Trump. They explore the possible outcomes of Trumpā€™s quest to uphold presidential immunity in the courts, whether Section 3 of the 14th Amendment will keep him off any ballots, and if the SCOTUS is up to the challenges of the moment. After his attempts to seat fake electors and commit insurrection, are our safeguards strong enough to defend democracy against authoritarianism?

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  • Jen picks apart Trumpā€™s claim to presidential immunity and welcomes Renew Democracy Initiative CEO Uriel Epshtein. They break down how authoritarian governments wield power, review the evidence that Trump has rejected liberal values, and explain why the US still holds a critical role as a standard bearer of democracy. They go on to look at the deterioration of democratic values around the world evidenced by the lackluster support in the West for Ukraine, and how to effectively support them against Russian aggression and strengthen our systems against the threats of tyrants.

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    Uriel Epshtein:
    Twitter | Renew Democracy Initiative | Peace & Dialogue Leadership Initiative

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  • Jen explores Nikki Haleyā€™s impact on Trumpā€™s electoral prospects and the toxicity of the Republican Congress, before welcoming foreign policy maven Aaron David Miller. They discuss the recent history of US-Iranian relations, the danger Iranā€™s proxies pose to our forces, and review the most effective ways to protect our interests. Then, they break down the mechanics of Middle Eastern politics, and game out the next phase of the Israel-Hamas war. Their analysis covers getting back the hostages, Israelā€™s internal politics, how the conflict will be fought going forward, and what it will take to reach a lasting detente.

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  • Jen analyzes the Republican primary and looks at how the budget battle ties into recent foreign policy developments, before welcoming legal expert Ben Ginsberg. They compare J6 to Bush vs. Gore, looking at how our politics have become more extreme and why equal protection under the law is relevant to our elections. Then, they weigh whether our elections are secure, discuss how vote by mail, voter ID, and an increased number of voting days can help restore faith in our system. From there, they look at the prospects for Trumpā€™s quest to save himself with presidential immunity and examine the impact of the 14th Amendment challenges to his candidacy.

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  • Jen dives into the Iowa caucus results driven by an unenthusiastic electorate dominated by Trumpā€™s radical minority and welcomes ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt. They analyze the explosion of anti-semitism after the 10/7 attack and what constitutes it, the rise of hate on college campuses, and the dangers posed by the social media algorithms driving popular opinion. Then, they emphasize the importance of informed DEI education backed by college leadership, the true meaning of free speech, and personally speaking out against hate in all its forms.

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  • Jen contrasts the strong pro-democracy speeches of President Biden with Trumpā€™s immunity claims, and welcomes the Brennan Centerā€™s Michael Waldman. They lay out the scope of corruption delegitimizing the SCOTUS, and look at term limits, court expansion, an ethics code, and regular presidential appointments as possible remedies. Then, they discuss the progression of the DOJā€™s prosecutions of Trump, with a focus on his attempt to claim presidential immunity, Colorado and Maineā€™s 14th Amendment based ballot removals, and whether J6 legally qualifies as an insurrection.

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    Michael Waldman:
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