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Jeff: âWas talking with my friend S. Craig Zahler a few days ago, and we were discussing Sarcofagoâs 1987 debut, I.N.R.I. Zahler noted that there are some bewildering timing issues in 'Nightmare,' and how heâd like Hunter ('who is 20 times the drummer I am') to try and identify what the hellâs going on. I put this quandary/query to Hunter and let âer rip.â
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Music cited in order of appearance:
Sarcofago, âNightmareâ (I.N.R.I., 1987)
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This episode brings to a close our periodic investigations of the Steven Wilson-curated 'Intrigue' compilation. Covering progressive sounds in UK alternative/post-punk music from 1979-89, 'Intrigue' nails its intention, proving that, while traditional prog rock may have waned in the '80s, that spirit of adventure and invention remained alive through the work of dozens and dozens of UK music-makers in this time period. This episode focuses on Kate Bush, Dif Juz, Cardiacs, Dead Can Dance, SLAB!, Momus, No-man and a host of others.
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Music cited in order of appearance:
ÂÂÂintro: Talk Talk, âLiving in Another Worldâ (The Colour of Spring, 1986)
[all snippets are taken directly from the Intrigue compilation; the following indicates where the songs originally appeared]Kate Bush, âWaking the Witchâ (Hounds of Love, 1985)
This Mortal Coil, âIvy and Neetâ (Filigree & Shadow, 1986)
Perennial Divide, âBeeheadâ (Beehead 7â, 1987)
The Sisters of Mercy, âThis Corrosionâ (Floodland, 1987)O Yuki Conjugate, âAscensionâ (Into Dark Water, 1987)
Dif Juz, âNo Motionâ (Lonely is An Eyesore, 4AD compilation, 1987)
SLAB!, âGutter Bustingâ (Descension, 1987)
Momus, âMurderers, the Hope of Womenâ (Murderers, the Hope of Women, 1987)
Dead Can Dance, âThe Host of Seraphimâ (The Serpentâs Egg, 1988)Cardiacs, âR.E.S.â (A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window, 1988)The The, âGood Morning Beautifulâ (Mind Bomb, 1989)
The Shamen, âOmega Amigoâ (Omega Amigo single, 1989)
No-Man, âNight Sky, Sweet Earthâ (Speak, 1999 re-recording of 1989 version, originally from The Girl from Missouri EP)
Kitchens of Distinction, âThe 3rd Time We Opened the Capsuleâ (12â single, 1989)
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UNTIL WE PERCEIVE BIFROST...THIS is Radical Research
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In this .5 episode (the longest point-5 weâve done to date), we offer up 6 subjects of previous Radical Research episodes and take a look at their activities since we last put our spotlight on them. (As we explain at the beginning, the sound quality is rough this time, as Hunter is still reeling from Hurricane Heleneâs effects on his household's technology.)
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Music cited in order of appearance:
ÂÂÂHail Spirit Noir, âThe Road to Aweâ (Fossil Gardens, 2024)
Hammers of Misfortune, âGhost Heartsâ (Overtaker, 2022)
Manes, âEnd of the Riverâ (Pathei Mathos, 2024)
Diskord, âCogged Potherâ (Bipolarities, split with ATVM, 2024)Xysma, âMidnight Callâ (No Place Like Alone, 2024)Kayo Dot, âGet Out of the Towerâ (Moss Grew on the Swords and Plowshares Alike, 2021)
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Switzerlandâs deadliest export, Coroner, which sliced and sawed its way through the metal landscape of the â80s and early â90s, has finally found its way under the Radical Research microscope. From the savage thrashing mayhem of R.I.P. to the reclined elegance of its final missives, Radical Research dives deeply into the methods and madness of one of metalâs ablest battalions.
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Music cited in order of appearance:
ÂÂÂâPale Sisterâ (Mental Vortex, 1991)
âSon of Lilithâ (Mental Vortex, 1991)âSpectators of Sinâ (Death Cult demo, 1986)
âComaâ (R.I.P., 1987)
âAbsorbedâ (Punishment for Decadence, 1988)
âR.I.P.â (R.I.P., 1987)
âShadow of a Lost Dreamâ (Punishment for Decadence, 1988)
Canvas Solaris, âArc-Liteâ (Tribute to Coroner, 2010)
âParalized, Mesmerizedâ (Grin, 1993)
âD.O.A.â (No More Color, 1989)
âTunnel of Painâ (No More Color, 1989)
âRead My Scarsâ (No More Color, 1989)
âGrin (Nails Hurt)â (Grin, 1993)âShifterâ (Coroner, 1995)
âGliding Above While Being Belowâ (Coroner, 1995)
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A quick look at Queenâs âThe Prophetâs Song,â its a cappella middle section, and the treatment it was given by one Jeff Scott Soto in various live performances. Itâll all make a little more sense when you listenâŠ
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Music cited in order of appearance:
ÂÂÂQueen, âThe Prophetâs Songâ (A Night at the Opera, 1975)
Jeff Scott Soto (fronting Sons of Apollo), âThe Prophetâs Songâ (live in Orlando, FL, February 2018)
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Is there an album more representative of this podcast's main focus? Not outside of Norway, there isnât. MontrĂ©alâs DBC (Dead Brain Cells) released âUniverseâ in 1989, a tech-y cosmic opus of 37:26 that manages to cover the big bang, the evolution of life, the fall of the dinosaurs, manâs eventual dominance on Earth, and humanity's possible future in the album's brief but eventful duration. Join us as we spelunk through the black holes and blocky, monolithic riffs of DBC's second and final albumâŠ
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All Ye Who Enter: Tangents on other Canadian metal bands will happen throughout this episode. And a Swiss one, too. And time machinesâŠand the moonâŠand Phil Anselmoâs Mind Over Four shirt.
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Although Hunter claims Garth Richardson (aka GGGarth) produced Helmetâs Betty, the RR fact-checking department can find no evidence that the guy was anywhere near that album. Hunter apologizes and says, âTotal brain fart. It was T-Ray [Todd Ray].â
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Music cited in order of appearance:
ÂÂÂ[all snippets from DBC, Universe, 1989]
âThe Genesis Explosionâ
âHeliosphereâ
âPrimordiumâ
âExit the Giantsâ
âRise of Manâ
âEstuaryâ
âHumanityâs Childâ
âPhobos & Deimosâ
âThresholdâ âInfinite Universeâ
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This is a âcareful for what you wish forâ kind of thing. For years and years, we hoped that we could hear the mighty Steve DiGiorgioâs bass work with more clarity on Deathâs 1991 masterpiece, Human. Once we could, thanks to the 2011 reissue, we relented and realized we preferred the original version after all. We present this mini-episode in good humor and with an anxious heart, because we hope no one, least of all DiGiorgio himself, understands this is not a critique of his playing. The man is a god to usâŠwe just prefer the original sound of the 1991 âHumanâ over the 2011 reissue. This shitâs important!
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Music cited in order of appearance:
ÂÂÂDeath, âSee Through Dreamsâ (Human, 1991 [2011 reissue])
Death, âSuicide Machineâ (Human, 1991 [2011 reissue])
Death, âVacant Planetsâ (Human, 1991 [2011 reissue])Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.
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Operating outside of the metal infrastructure, but heralding its glory and complexity more so than most âtrueâ metal bands, The Fucking Champs, in their 1994-2007 rampage, cobbled together elements of Trouble, Confessor, Don Caballero, and Kraftwerk and reshaped the geometric possibilities of math metal, all with the insouciance of its indie rock roots. Please join us as we attempt to solve this riddle wrapped in a conundrum. Youâve got a thirst, Portland!Note I:
We talk about the various name changes our San Franciscan heroes have enduredâŠfrom The Champs to C4AM95 to The Fucking Champs. We failed to mention what might be our favorite name, one they never recorded under but adopted for a short spell: The Champs UK.
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Apologies for the confusion on the tracks we sample from V. Youâll hear the correction within the episode, and the correct song titles are noted below. Drag City, we are pissed! ButâŠweâre already over it.
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Music cited in order of appearance:
Intro: âLamplighterâ (IV, 2000)âGuns in Our Schoolsâ (Triumph of the Air Elementals demo, 1994)
âSo Then I Was All Whyâd You Say Fuck My Styleâ (Songs for Films About Rock demo, 1994)
âMerry Go Roundâ (Songs for Films About Rock demo, 1994)
âFlawless Victoryâ (III, 1997)
âHeart to Heartâ (III, 1997)
âTonight, We Rideâ (III, 1997)
âThese Glyphs Are Dustyâ (IV, 2000)
âEsprit De Corpseâ (IV, 2000)
âThor is Like Immortalâ (IV, 2000)
âChildren Perceive the Hoax Clusterâ (V, 2002)
âI Am the Album Coverâ (V, 2002)
âMajor Airbroâs Landingâ (V, 2002)
âA Forgotten Chapter in the History of Ideasâ (VI, 2007)âDolores Parkâ (VI, 2007)âEarthen Sculptorâ (VI, 2007)
ep. 120 preview: DBC, âInfinite Universeâ (Universe, 1989)
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Sometimes it takes a while to come around to an album. In our case, it took 28 years with Cryptopsyâs second album, None So Vile. Better late than never. We repent!!!
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RR listener Joseph Schafer pointed out that we incorrectly credited the sample at the beginning of 'None So Vile.' It is, in fact, from the film 'The Exorcist III: The Heretic.' Our apologies and thanks, Joseph, for helping us come correct!
Music cited in order of appearance:
All from Cryptopsy, None So Vile (1996)
âSlit Your Gutsâ
âOrgiastic Disembowelmentâ
âCrown of Hornsâ
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The one-long-song album is a rare event in the metal genre, and a tough assignment to tackle and get right. We hold up these five albums as the finest examples of the approach. While itâs difficult to convey their scope in snippet form, we tried our best and had a lot of fun doing so. (Incidentally, this also happens to be one of our longest-ever episodes!) Join us, even if these albums only have one good song on themâŠ
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Music cited in order of appearance:
Renaissance, âThe Death of Artâ (The Death of Art, 1994)
Edge of Sanity, âCrimsonâ (Crimson, 1996)
Sabbat, âThe Dwelling â The Melody of Death Maskâ (The Dwelling, 1996)
Fates Warning, âA Pleasant Shade of Grayâ part 5 & 11 (A Pleasant Shade of Gray, 1997)
Green Carnation, âLight of Day, Day of Darknessâ (Light of Day, Day of Darkness, 2001)
Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.
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Our man Ginn loves him some Gadd! In this brief episode, we extract three of Hunterâs favorite moments by his favorite drummer on the planet, Steve Gadd. It results in something we thought weâd never do on this podcast: play a snippet of a Paul Simon song. But you have to admit, Gadd is BaddâŠBadd Ass!
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Music cited in order of appearance:
Chick Corea, âQuartet No. 2, Part IIâ (Three Quartets, 1981)
Chick Corea, âNight Spriteâ (The Leprechaun, 1976) Paul Simon, â50 Ways to Leave Your Loverâ (Still Crazy After All These Years, 1975)
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Pull up a chair and get your ears out! We get giddy when weâre together in the same space, which we were for this episode. Youâll hopefully forgive our exuberance and all the talking over each other in excitement of brotherhood, music, pizza and other various inputs. All in the name of exalting the third of four CDs in the Steven Wilson-curated Intrigue compilation series. Join us for another walk through the fascinating world of progressive-minded â80s-era UK post-punk and alternative rock.
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If you havenât checked them out already, we encourage you to listen to our first two Intrigue dissections, conveniently linked for you here:
Music cited in order of appearance:
intro: David Bowie, âUp the Hill Backwardsâ (Scary Monsters [and Super Creeps], 1980)
[all snippets below are taken directly from the Intrigue compilation; the following indicates where the songs originally appeared]
Twelfth Night â âThree Dancersâ (Smiling at Grief, 1982)
Thomas Dolby â âAirwavesâ (The Golden Age of Wireless, 1982)Crispy Ambulance â âAre You Ready?â (The Plateau Phase, 1982)
Rupert Hine â âThe Outsiderâ (Waving Not Drowning, 1982)
A Certain Ratio â âKnife Slits Waterâ (Sextet, 1982)Tears for Fears â âMemories Fadeâ (The Hurting, 1983)Peter Hammill â âPatientâ (Patience, 1983)
Cocteau Twins â âDonimoâ (Treasure, 1984)
Mr. and Mrs. Smith and Mr. Drake â âIn a Waiting Roomâ (Mr. and Mrs. Smith and Mr. Drake, 1984)The Art of Noise - âClose (to the Edit)â (Close [to the Edit] 7â, 1984)
Dalis Car â âDalis Carâ (The Waking Hour, 1984)
Scott Walker â âRawhideâ (Climate of Hunter, 1984)
David Sylvian â âBrilliant Treesâ (Brilliant Trees, 1984)
Propaganda â âDream Within a Dreamâ (A Secret Wish, 1985)
Ep. 188 preview: Renaissance, âThe Death of Artâ (The Death of Art, 1994)
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In this brief episode, we spotlight the two metal bands brave enough to tackle the middle part of King Crimson's innovative and highly influential 1969 classic, "21st Century Schizoid Man."
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Music Cited in Order of Appearance:
King Crimson, "21st Century Schizoid Man" (In the Court of the Crimson King, 1969)
Voivod, "21st Century Schizoid Man" (Phobos, 1997)Forbidden, "21st Century Schizoid Man" (Distortion, 1995)
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When it comes to a difficult-to-define concept like psychedelia in music, it's subjective. Itâs not all hippies with sitars and lava lamps and bongsâŠbut thatâs not wrong either. With a little help from author Michael Hicks and his parameters for what makes music psychedelic, we pose the question: âWhat is Psychedelic Music?â and offer the Radical Research answer.
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Note II:Our friend Tom Hailey counts Stupid Dream as his favorite and only truly loved Porcupine Tree album. Thatâs fine. We love it too. But we love many other Porcupine Tree albums. So, when Hunter said âIâve gotta be honest with you, Iâve gone full Tom Hailey, thereâs really only one Porcupine Tree record that I really love anymore,â it blew Jeffâs gaskets. And then it appeared Hunter said that one album was Signify (âand maybe Sky Moves Sidewaysâ). The whole thing became maddening. After listening back to this torrid exchange (starting at the 1:03:25 mark), Hunter wants to clarify: âStupid Dream is my favorite Porcupine Tree album, and like I said, I like all â90s Porcupine Tree.â He was being oblique in the recording and it all got a bit out of hand. This is the sort of first-world relationship problem that Radical Research can occasionally suffer. And the world keeps turning!
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Music cited in order of appearance:
Can â âHalleluwahâ (Tago Mago, 1971)
Miles Davis â âRated Xâ (Get Up With It, 1974)
Steve Hillage â âMeditation of the Snakeâ (Fish Rising, 1975)
Joy Division â âDecadesâ (Closer, 1980)Seefeel â âTime to Find Me (AFX Slow Mix)â (Pure, Impure, 1993)
Beherit â âSummerlandsâ (Drawing Down the Moon, 1993)
Emperor â âThe Loss and Curse of Reverenceâ (Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk, 1997)Coil â âThe Dreamer is Still Asleepâ (Musick to Play in the Dark Vol. 1, 1999)
Portal â âThe Endmillsâ (Seepia, 2003)
Steven Wilson â âSignificant Otherâ (Insurgentes, 2008)
Melvins â âThe Bunk Upâ (Hold it In, 2014)Arcturus â âCrashlandâ (Arcturian, 2015)
Cynic â âMythical Serpentsâ (Ascension Codes, 2021) ep. 117 preview: Crispy Ambulance â âAre You Ready?â (The Plateau Phase, 1982)
Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.
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Our second in the Permeable Lines series, and our first point-5 episode since 83.5 nearly two years ago! That enough numbers for you? Join us for a brief dust-up between inspiration and rip-off. You decide. (More numbers: â18 is actually 9âŠit stuck in his mindâŠ.â)
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Letâs take stock. These are our other .5 episodes thus far. Mini-episodes, if you will. Great for late-night Radical snackinâ!
Metal Laughs, 83.5 (8 min, 13 sec)
Mystery Snippets Part 2, 41.5 (13 min, 51 sec)https://radicalresearch.org/episode-41-5-mystery-snippets-pt-2/
Mystery Snippets, 23.5 (9 min, 28 sec)https://radicalresearch.org/episode-23-5-mystery-snippets/Riff Similarities (Permeable Lines), 17.5 (10 min, 59 sec)https://radicalresearch.org/episode-17-5-the-curious-the-uncanny/The Kiss/Nuclear Death Convergence, 5.5 (7 min, 10 sec)https://radicalresearch.org/episode-5-5-calling-dr-morpheus-the-kiss-nuclear-death-convergence/
Music cited in order of appearance:
Mercyful Fate, âA Dangerous Meetingâ (Donât Break the Oath, 1984)
Megadeth, âReturn to Hangarâ (The World Needs a Hero, 2001)
Diamond Head, âAm I Evil?â (Lightning to the Nations, 1980)
Megadeth, âWhenâ (The World Needs a Hero, 2001)
Testament, âOver the Wallâ (The Legacy, 1987)
Sieges Even, âApocalyptic Dispositionâ (Lifecycle, 1988)
Pestilence, âOut of the Bodyâ (Consuming Impulse, 1989)Suffocation, âInfecting the Cryptsâ (Human Waste, 1991)
Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.
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We celebrate musicians and bands that rapidly evolve and challenge their audience with newness each endeavor. But the abrupt left-turn San Francisco metal band Hexx took between 1986 and 1987 is beyond fascinating, and beyond the norm. It culminates in one of our favorite albums of the early â90s, the mighty, seething, adrenaline-injected Morbid Reality. Strap in, freaks, this will be a bumpy ride!
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Music cited in order of appearance:
âTerrorâ (No Escape, 1984)âEdge of Deathâ (Under the Spell, 1986)
âEdge of Deathâ (Watery Graves 12â, 1990)
âSardonicusâ (Quest for Sanity, 1989)
âFields of Deathâ (Quest for Sanity, 1989)
âTwice as Brightâ (Quest for Sanity, 1989)
âMorbid Realityâ (two moments) (Morbid Reality, 1991)âThe Last Stepâ (Morbid Reality, 1991)
âBlood Hunterâ (Morbid Reality, 1991)
âPersecution Experienceâ (Morbid Reality, 1991)
âWatery Gravesâ (Morbid Reality, 1991)
âSpider Jamâ (Morbid Reality, 1991)
Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.
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Radical Research canât stay away from Scandinavia for more than a brief spell. To that end, your hosts find themselves in Sweden, digging through the short but robust initial run by Mourning Sign. Over the course of a demo, an EP, and two full-lengths, Mourning Sign twisted and bent metal into a wide variety of shapes. Neither exclusively brutal, progressive, nor melodic, but rather an alloy of all three, Mourning Sign, in the tradition of Swedenâs best and brightest, staked out their own territory and defended it with might. Join us on this, our 114th journey into the vortex of radical sound. Note I:The Radical Research Patreon page is now set up and ready for your patronage. We are offering tiered subscription levels for those who want a set-it-and-forget-it donation option. As ever, if you choose to support us, we are humbled and grateful! patreon.com/RadicalResearchPodcast
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We appreciate Chris Warunki, and you can find his myriad of music projects right here: https://warunkimedia.bandcamp.com/artists
Music cited in order of appearance:
âInner Calmnessâ (Last Chamber, 1992 demo)
âSupressed Pastâ (Last Chamber, 1992 demo)
âRedeemâ (Alienor, 1993)
âDesert Sunâ (Alienor, 1993)
âGodsendâ (Alienor, 1993)
âIâll See to Thatâ (Mourning Sign, 1995)
âLike Father Like Sonâ (Mourning Sign, 1995)
âSeems Endlessâ (Mourning Sign, 1995)âIâll Be Dancingâ (Multiverse, 1996)
âSubtle Climaxâ (Multiverse, 1996)
âSeed of Revivalâ (Multiverse, 1996)
âNeergâ (Multiverse, 1996) Episode 115 preview: Hexx, âFire Mushroomsâ (Morbid Reality, 1991)Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.
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For our 113th episode, we dispense with the usual exhalations of the past in favor of the thrills of the tense present-future. Thief, the Los Angeles-based brainchild of visionary producer, Dylan Neal, has released one of 2024âs most extraordinary albums, Bleed, Memory, a harrowing journey through the late stages of the human mind and spirit. Without giving away all of the albumâs treasures, this episode can be considered an act of seduction, a persuasion. We dare even the heartiest will to resist the siren strains of Bleed, Memory.
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Some insight into Dylan Nealâs note to Jeff, mentioned in the early part of the episode (and the question that we borrowed for this episodeâs title): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_face
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Music cited in order of appearance:
all songs from Thief, Bleed, Memory (2024)
âApparitionsâ
âCinderlandâ
âParamnesiaâ
âPrankqueanâ
âDead Coyote Dreamsâ
âDulcineaâ
âBehemouthâ
âPissingâ âTo Whom It May Concernâ
Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.
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For its 112th episode, Radical Research travels to balmy Greece to investigate the cryptic evildoing of Hail Spirit Noir, whose hellbroth of black metal, prog, psychedelia, and witchery strikes a special chord with your hosts. We take a deep look at the bandâs first four albums and find ourselves more spellbound than ever before. There is no warding off the spell, so give in and join us in this most dangerous of meetings.
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Music cited in order of appearance:
âMountain of Horrorâ (Pneuma, 2012)
âInto the Gates of Timeâ (two moments) (Pneuma, 2012)
âBlood Guruâ (Oi Magoi, 2014)âSatan is Timeâ (Oi Magoi, 2014)
âThe Mermaidâ (Oi Magoi, 2014)
âMayhem in Blueâ (Mayhem in Blue, 2016)
âLost in Satanâs Charmsâ (Mayhem in Blue, 2016)
âThe Cannibal Tribe Came from the Seaâ (Mayhem in Blue, 2016)
âAlien Lip Readingâ (Eden in Reverse, 2020)
âCrossroadsâ (Eden in Reverse, 2020)
âAutomata 1980â (Eden in Reverse, 2020)âOn the Loose Againâ (Mannequins, 2021) ep. 113 preview: Thief, âPrankqueanâ (Bleed, Memory, 2024)
Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.
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For episode 111, Radical Research returns to its spiritual homeland of Norway. But on this trip, RR steers clear of the usual avant suspects and instead climbs the Mountains of Might to take a closer look at Immortalâs twisted and divisive fourth album, 1997âs Blizzard Beasts. Though optically outside of RRâs usual territory, the hosts make a compelling case for the albumâs inclusion in the annals of the weird. Please tune in but beware of Nebular Ravens and Frostdemons.
Note I: Although we failed to mention it, along with a resemblance or two to various riffs from Hellwitchâs Syzygial Miscreancy, we find parallels between Blizzard Beasts and any given Order From Chaos era, both vocally and musically. Not that Hellwitch or Order From Chaos directly influenced this album, but if Immortal had said so, we could see it. As you were.
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Please consider donating if you listen to Radical Research often: https://www.paypal.me/rrpodcastWe also have a webstore where you can find shirts, CDs, and books, many of them recently restocked:
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Music cited in order of appearance:
[all songs are from Immortalâs Blizzard Beasts, 1997]
âintroâ
âBlizzard Beastsâ
âNebular Ravens Winterâ
âSuns That Sank BelowââBattlefieldsâ
âMountains of Mightâ
âNoctambulantâ
âWinter of the Agesâ
âFrostdemonstormâ
Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.
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