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In 2010, two landmark decisions transformed American campaign finance law. The first was Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. The second was SpeechNow.org v. FEC.
Together, these cases cleared the way for corporations and so-called Super PACs to raise and spend unlimited sums of money in elections.
What followed was a new era in American politics where individuals, corporations, and industries increasingly spent more and more money to influence campaigns and public opinion.
To debate the constitutional, political, and historical questions surrounding money in politics, we are joined by Larry Lessig and Paul Sherman. Lessig is a Harvard Law professor and the founder of Equal Citizens, one of the country's leading advocates for campaign finance reform. Sherman is a senior attorney at the Institute for Justice who served as co-counsel in SpeechNow.org.
Read Larry's paper "If Roe, then Buckley" here.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:43 How Larry and Paul became interested in political speech and campaign finance
05:33 Citizens United, political speech, and quid pro quo corruption
18:34 What was the SpeechNow case?
32:31 Elon Musk and billionaire influence in the 2024 election
49:06 History of campaign finance regulation
51:26 First Amendment originalism, Federalist 52, and Federalist 57
01:07:07 Does money actually influence election outcomes?
01:14:20 Outro
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Shouting down speakers, UCLA free speech, heckling, AI, doxxing, cancel culture, and more!
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:40 Get your tickets to Soapbox now!
06:30 Congratulations to Will on 20 years at FIRE
07:31 How is FIRE responding to shouting down speakers?
11:33 Will FIRE include viewpoint diversity in our College Free Speech Rankings?
13:48 What is FIRE's response to UCLA Law students protesting a DHS speaker?
17:07 NYU's commencement speaker Jonathan Haidt
21:20 Is walking out on a controversial speaker protected free speech?
23:28 Is FIRE involved in Texas State University professor Tom Alter's case?
25:50 What is the scholar to attorney ratio at FIRE?
27:47 Has cancel culture on college campuses changed since Trump 2.0?
32:00 What is FIRE's stance on doxxing?
37:02 FIRE volunteer opportunities
37:33 Can the government regulate AI?
42:01 Is talk therapy speech or medical treatment? (Chiles v. Salazar)
46:02 What are the most pressing threats to online expression?
51:30 Special thanks to the Middlebury College Democrats and Republicans
53:45 What are the most challenging aspects of FIRE's work with technology and free speech?
57:10 Does accepting government money protect or restrict speech?
01:00:25 Is FIRE a reactive organization and what solutions do we offer?
01:01:41 Outro
Joining us:
Nico Perrino, executive vice president
Alisha Glennon, chief operating officer
Greg Lukianoff, president & chief executive officer
Will Creeley, legal director
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Editorial note: This conversation was recorded on Friday, April 24, the day before the White House Correspondents' Dinner. Both Nico and Clayton attended the event, where a gunman breached security and opened fire before being apprehended.
No one was seriously injured, but the incident serves as a reminder of the threats reporters can face in the course of their work. Since we recorded the conversation before the shooting, Nico and Clayton do not address it, but the incident underscores the stakes of their discussion.
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In 2020, Reporters Without Borders launched the Uncensored Library, a virtual archive housed inside Minecraft, the world's most popular computer game.
It preserves the work of journalists who have faced censorship, imprisonment, exile, or even death. In countries where their reporting is banned, Minecraft itself is not, making the library a digital sanctuary for suppressed journalism that millions can still access.
In March 2026, the project added a United States wing, reminding Americans that subtler, less direct threats to a free press happen everywhere – even at home.
With today's release of the 2026 World Press Freedom Index and World Press Freedom Day approaching on May 3, we're unpacking the state of press freedom with Clayton Weimers, the executive director of Reporters Without Borders USA.
Download The Uncensored Library here.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
04:41 The state of press freedom in the United States
10:51 Trump administration's threats to press freedom
14:16 Patel v. The Atlantic and actual malice
22:55 Who is to blame for distrust in media?
27:58 Viewpoint diversity in the newsroom
32:15 The modern media ecosystem
40:27 What is RSF?
47:00 Freelance and independent journalism
49:11 Clayton's background and more on Reporters Without Borders
51:25 Inside the Uncensored Library
01:01:59 Outro
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We break down the legal case against James Comey over an alleged "true threat" and how far the government can go in prosecuting speech. Plus, we examine renewed FCC pressure on ABC and Jimmy Kimmel.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:57 Does the DOJ have a viable case against James Comey?
04:51 "True threats" and Comey's case
06:36 Threats against U.S. presidents and Watts v. United States
09:55 Was it a mistake for Comey to take down the "8647" seashell image?
11:18 Can the case be dismissed before it goes to trial?
12:38 Can Comey's case be considered a selective prosecution?
13:23 Is the process itself a punishment?
15:29 Could prosecutors face consequences for bringing this case?
18:07 Examples of true threats
20:35 "True threat" versus "incitement to imminent lawless action"
22:53 Is it still a "true threat" if charges come a year later?
24:32 Can Comey recover his legal fees?
25:34 Do threats become more real in the wake of other active threats?
26:32 Does the First Amendment differ for speech about the president?
30:06 What's going on with the FCC and ABC?
34:20 What do NRA v. Vullo and the FCC's calls to fire Jimmy Kimmel have in common?
35:17 Why does broadcast licensing exist in the internet age?
36:51 Have past presidents historically influenced broadcast licensing?
38:33 Is the Fairness Doctrine still in effect?
40:30 What can ABC do if the FCC takes away their licenses?
42:40 Will ABC fight back?
46:01 Has broadcast media regulation always been a frustration for 1A advocates?
49:20 Humphrey's Executor & content-based regulation
50:58 Is the FCC independent from the executive branch?
51:45 The past 18 months of FCC action
52:15 Outro
Joining us:
Conor Fitzpatrick, supervising senior attorney
Aaron Terr, director of public advocacy
Bob Corn-Revere, chief counsel
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The early internet opened unprecedented avenues for speech, creativity, and connection without traditional gatekeepers.
But it also raised civil liberties questions: Do our offline freedoms exist online? And if so, how far do they extend?
Today, those questions are more urgent than ever. Advances in AI have given governments powerful new tools to track, monitor, and analyze our behavior, raising fundamental concerns about the future of free expression in the digital age.
Today we are joined by Cindy Cohn, the executive director for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. She has spent thirty years as a civil liberties attorney specializing in digital rights, which she documents in her newly published memoir Privacy's Defender: My Thirty-Year Fight Against Digital Surveillance.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
05:17 Why write this book now?
09:11 Does privacy make free speech possible?
14:52 Code as speech: Bernstein v. United States
33:34 The Patriot Act and government spying
51:09 National security letters and Section 702
57:57 Who is Tony Coppolino?
01:06:06 Why EFF left X
01:11:05 What's next for Cindy
01:13:56 Outro
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Free speech has long been a cornerstone of democratic society. But today, its principles face increasing pressure.
Around the world, governments are expanding speech restrictions in the name of combating misinformation, hate speech, and extremism, while new technologies make it easier to monitor and control public discourse.
Many free speech advocates warn that these efforts risk eroding democracy itself.
Joining the show to discuss this "global free speech recession" is Jacob Mchangama, a senior fellow at FIRE and the founder and executive director of The Future of Free Speech at Vanderbilt University, and Jeff Kosseff, a senior fellow at The Future of Free Speech. Their new book is "The Future of Free Speech: Reversing the Global Decline of Democracy's Most Essential Freedom."
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:07 Why write this book?
04:40 Where free speech stands in America today
05:53 What is a "global free speech recession"?
11:22 Free speech's high point and what changed
18:56 Election misinformation, disinformation, and the role of AI
34:40 The EU's Digital Services Act and the UK's Online Safety Act
40:00 Are democracies starting to adopt more restrictive speech laws?
43:52 Solutions to reversing the free speech recession
52:25 Outro
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In 18th century America, news traveled slowly across the Atlantic. Newspapers reprinted secondhand reports, private letters, and unverified stories from abroad, leaving readers with multiple versions of reality.
In a world educated by an unverifiable news cycle, how did misinformation shape early American life?
To explore how news, rumor, and misrepresentation influenced the course of the American Revolution and the nation that followed, we are joined by Jordan Taylor, a historian of American history and the author of Misinformation Nation: Foreign News and the Politics of Truth in Revolutionary America.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:05 How colonists got their news
08:28 Why foreign news dominated early newspapers
17:33 How colonial newspapers verified information
22:32 Did miscommunication help spark the Revolution?
29:57 The XYZ Affair and the Sedition Act
39:21 The First Amendment's original meaning
44:34 Current day parallels
55:41 Outro
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In March, juries in California and New Mexico delivered seminal verdicts holding Meta and YouTube liable for failing to protect young users from harm.
Both verdicts found that the companies were negligent in the design or operation of their platforms and that each company knew their platforms could be dangerous when used by a minor.
The courts found that the design elements of the platforms could be separated from the content hosted on the platforms, thus removing the need to consider the First Amendment or Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.
Joining us to break down the rulings and their possible free speech implications is Mike Masnick, CEO & founder of Techdirt & the Copia Institute.
Masnick is the author of "Everyone Cheering The Social Media Addiction Verdicts Against Meta Should Understand What They're Actually Cheering For."
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:29 Why these verdicts scare the hell out of Mike
10:34 Are social media algorithms "addictive"?
21:45 Did Meta fail to protect kids?
30:37 The First Amendment and Section 230
43:13 Is social media the new Big Tobacco?
55:15 The role of parents in social media use
59:04: Outro
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Governments around the world have increasingly sought to regulate online speech well beyond their borders.
If global platforms are forced to comply with the world's most restrictive laws, whose speech standards win? And what happens to a free and open internet when governments apply their censorship rules across borders?
Today we are joined by Preston Byrne, an attorney and expert in international law and emerging technologies. He has spent nearly two decades working at the intersection of law, tech, and policy, and he now serves as counsel to a coalition of internet publishing platforms suing the United Kingdom's internet regulator. Follow him on X and Substack.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:15Preston's background
16:46 What do foreign censorship laws actually target?
22:35 The UK's Online Safety Act
29:39 Free speech cultures: US vs. UK
40:48 The GRANITE Act and protecting Americans from foreign censorship
1:01:15 Outro
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Several stories have put government power over speech and technology back in the spotlight.
In this episode, we break down the Pentagon's targeting of the AI company Anthropic, the push for government-mandated age verification technologies, and the Department of Justice's raid on a Washington Post reporter's home.
We are joined by:
Jennifer Huddleston, senior fellow in technology policy at the Cato Institute
Mike Godwin, AI and privacy expert, first staff counsel at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, first full-time general counsel at Wikimedia, and author of two books on internet law and policy
Greg Lukianoff, president and CEO of FIRE
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
03:19 The Pentagon vs. Anthropic?
22:40 The FTC, Congress, and age verification laws
48:15 Is it unusual for the DOJ to seize a reporter's computer?
59:46 Outro
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In the years leading up to the American Revolution, newspapers and pamphlets overflowed with essays signed "Publius," "Brutus," and "A Farmer." Those arguments helped shape a nation, but the authors' real names were nowhere to be found.
Americans have long relied on anonymous speech to challenge the powerful, protect dissenters, and keep the focus on ideas rather than identities. That tradition has endured into America's digital age, even as anonymous speech has become more controversial.
To explore America's history with anonymity, we are joined by Jeff Kosseff, a nonresident senior legal fellow at The Future of Free Speech and author of The United States of Anonymous. Preorder his forthcoming book, The Future of Free Speech: Reversing the Global Decline of Democracy's Most Essential Freedom.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:01 What is anonymity?
04:38 Anonymous speech in Colonial America
15:58 Does the First Amendment protect anonymity?
20:35 Anonymous speech in the Civil Rights Era
31:17 The internet and anonymity
35:44 Modern anonymity debates: DHS subpoenas, age verification, social media regulation, and VPN bans
51:53 Outro
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One year into Trump 2.0, we examine the administration's record on free speech and how it compares to the president's campaign pledge to "bring back free speech to America."
We also discuss recent ICE protests, including the right to carry a gun and to film law enforcement, and what these encounters reveal about protest rights today.
Today we are joined by:
Clark Neily, senior vice president for legal studies at the Cato Institute
Timothy Zick, professor of government and citizenship at William & Mary Law School and author of the new book Trump 2.0: Executive Power and the First Amendment
Conor Fitzpatrick, supervising senior attorney at FIRE
Zick is also the author of Public Protest and Governmental Immunities, Managed Dissent: The Law of Public Protest, and Arming Public Protests.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:47 ICE protests: Alex Pretti, filming police, and the right to carry a gun
13:30 How to hold law enforcement accountable
19:10 Don Lemon's arrest
23:27 Trump's retribution politics and the "domestic terrorist" label
35:05 FCC pressure and attacks on the media
39:40 Free speech for noncitizens
53:49 Attacks on higher education
58:40 Trump 1.0 vs. Trump 2.0
01:02:25 What reforms are needed?
1:09:13 Outro
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Recent protests in Iran have drawn renewed attention to dissent under the country's authoritarian government. The demonstrations have been met with mass arrests, internet restrictions, and even accusations of murder.
While large-scale demonstrations appear to have subsided for now, reporting from Iran describes a tense calm, a heightened security presence, and widespread "disappointment and disillusionment" among Iranians.
Today we are joined by Pouya Nikmand, an Iranian-born writer who escaped Iran at 18. He writes about how his experiences have shaped his understanding of expression, freedom, and belonging on his Substack, Outliving Iran.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:17 What's happening in Iran now?
10:47 What does life look like under an authoritarian regime?
20:33 Growing up in Iran
24:48 The influence of Western media in Iran
32:55 Escaping Iran
37:05 Life after escape
40:55 Being trafficked to Poland
54:45 Escaping captivity and coming to America
01:01:53 An immigrant's perspective on US immigration
1:07:24 Outro
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Thomas Paine arrived in America in 1774 with little to his name and a long record of personal failure behind him. Within a year, he wrote Common Sense, one of the most influential political pamphlets in history, helping to ignite the American Revolution and catapulting Paine into the American history hall of fame.
But by the end of his life, he was widely reviled, politically isolated, and personally abandoned. Once celebrated as the voice of liberty, he died an outcast, mourned by only six people at his funeral.
How does one man become the voice of the American Revolution and end up forgotten? To explore Paine's complicated legacy, we are joined by Richard Bell, professor of history at the University of Maryland and author of The American Revolution and the Fate of the World.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:41 Thomas Paine's early life
10:32 Paine's arrival in America
20:02 What did Paine argue in Common Sense?
25:11 Why Common Sense was so revolutionary
36:31 The American Crisis and the Revolutionary War
41:35 Why Paine returned to London and wrote The Rights of Man
49:19 Exile from Britain, imprisonment in France, and writing The Age of Reason
01:01:27 Why America turned its back on Paine
01:12:09 Paine's final days
01:18:50 How should we understand Paine's legacy today?
01:26:58 Outro
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On January 7, 2017, The Associated Press announced that "Free-thinking author and columnist Nat Hentoff is dead at 91."
For well over 60 years, Hentoff was a one of America's foremost public intellectuals and a familiar byline to free speech advocates and jazz aficionados.
The First Amendment was a way of life for Nat Hentoff. He would have been 100 years old this year. To reflect on his life and legacy, we are joined by his son Nick Hentoff and filmmaker David Lewis, whose 2013 documentary, "The Pleasures of Being Out of Step," explored Nat Hentoff's embodiment of free expression as the defining characteristic of the individual.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:52 Who was Nat Hentoff
03:48 Nat's early life & influences
18:20 Jazz, writing, & finding his voice
31:24 Free speech as a way of being
35:15 Being out of step: Controversy, courage, and consequences
41:56 Rage, compassion, & moral clarity
51:53 Nat Hentoff's legacy of dissent
55:20 Outro
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Changes at the Pentagon, Charlie Kirk and cancel culture, free speech and misinformation, globalized censorship, Indiana University, how to support FIRE, and more!
Timestamps:
00:00 Introductions
02:11 What is the Press Clause, and who does it apply to?
05:53 FIRE's position on Oklahoma student grading incident
08:50 What does FIRE need from Members besides financial support?
15:59 FIRE's College Free Speech Rankings and what they mean
19:44 What is the latest on the Ann Seltzer cases?
22:08 What is FIRE's view on the Pentagon press room changes?
24:50 What is the value of small donations? How can FIRE supporters volunteer?
29:21 Indiana University is good at football but bad at free speech
33:46 Are courts trending in a more speech-protective direction?
37:05 Charlie Kirk and cancel culture
39:20 Pro- and anti-Zionist speech and "hostile environment" harassment
43:48 Is "globalize the intifada" incitement?
45:07 How does FIRE distinguish between free speech and misinformation?
47:54 Can FIRE help supporters start free speech alumni groups?
48:55 Free speech, artificial intelligence, and copyright/trademarks
51:51 The sordid legacy of Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier
53:22 Staying hopeful amidst so much hypocrisy
55:32 Global speech platforms and censorship
58:14 Differences between FIRE and the ACLU?
59:34 Does FIRE have a Substack? (The Eternally Radical Idea, So to Speak, Expression)
1:00:03 Closing remarks.
Read the transcript here.
Joining us:
Alisha Glennon, chief operating officer
Nico Perrino, executive vice president
Greg Lukianoff, president and ceo
Will Creeley, legal director
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The Institute for Free Speech's Bradley Smith and Brett Nolan join the show to discuss two upcoming Supreme Court arguments involving donor disclosure (First Choice Women's Resource Centers, Inc. v. Platkin) and political party contributions to candidates (National Republican Senatorial Committee v. FEC).
The conversation also explores the broader landscape for political speech and campaign regulation, what legal battles may be next for the Supreme Court, and how both guests found their way into First Amendment advocacy.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:32 What is the Institute for Free Speech?
02:39 Personal paths into free speech work
05:10 First Choice Women's Resource Centers, Inc. v. Platkin
32:08 NRSC v. FEC
51:50 What's next for campaign finance at SCOTUS?
54:58 Outro
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FIRE's Ronnie London and Conor Fitzpatrick join the show to discuss the Supreme Court's oral argument in the conversion therapy case, the Pentagon's new press rules, Indiana University's censorship rampage, and where the situation stands with visa and green card holders who say things the feds don't like.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:19 Chiles v. Salazar, the conversion therapy case
30:03 The Pentagon's new press rules
48:48 What the hell is going on at Indiana University?
55:38 Feds boot noncitizens for Charlie Kirk speech
01:05:02 Outro
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We tackle ten common arguments against free speech.
FIRE President and CEO Greg Lukianoff and FIRE Senior Fellow and former ACLU President Nadine Strossen are the co-authors of the new book, "War on Words: 10 Arguments Against Free Speech—And Why They Fail."Transcript
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:18 Book's origins
04:25 Argument #1: Words are violence
20:27 Argument #2: Words are dangerous
25:09 Argument #3: Hate speech isn't free speech
31:06 Argument #4: About shoutdowns
37:18 Argument #5: Free speech is outdated
45:41 Argument #6 Free speech is right-wing
50:14 Argument #7: About that crowded theater and marketplace of ideas
59:27 Argument #9: Misinformation and disinformation
01:03:53 Argument #8: Free speech protects power
01:09:30 Argument #10: About the Holocaust and Rwandan genocide
01:13:35 Outro
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FIRE Senior Scholar Sarah McLaughlin discusses her new book, "Authoritarians in the Academy: How the Internationalization of Higher Education and Borderless Censorship Threaten Free Speech."
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:17 Book origins
03:38 How China censored speech on American campuses
18:36 COVID's impact for international students' speech
22:05 What is sensitivity exploitation?
25:35 Free speech at international satellite campuses
31:28 Attempted deportations of Mahmoud Khalil and Rümeysa Öztürk
36:52 Sarah's free speech inspirations: literature and people
About the Guest:
Learn more about Sarah McLaughlin and her work.Get the Book:
Purchase Authoritarians in the Academy here.Read the transcript here: https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/so-speak-transcript-authoritarians-academy
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