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Today, Sara talks with Dr Maureen Michele, physician, life coach, and author of the book Reclaiming Life: A Guide For Parents of Chronically Ill Children. We dive deep into the essential aspects of advocacy and emotional resilience, particularly in the context of parenting chronically ill children. We discussed the "4 C's" - consciousness, curiosity, commitment, and courage - and how these principles give us as caregivers and our children the tools we need to manage our thoughts and emotions. Plus, Dr. Maureen shares helpful advice for effectively disagreeing and handling emotions during doctors or IEP appointments focusing on the need for curiosity, fascination, and grace in approaching disagreements.
Key Moments:
[4:38] Noticing our own thoughts
[13:48] Wins and losses provide valuable growth
[17:16] Approach meetings with curiosity and a list.
[31:36] Caregivers have real feelings in front of our children, modeling vulnerabilityResources:
Website: https://maureenmichelemd.com
Instagram: @maureenmichelemd
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/maureenmichelemd
Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BNKXF3VQIf you enjoyed the show:
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There are emotional complexities and practical considerations of caring for children with disabilities or special needs during emergencies. In this episode, we discuss our conversations with our kids about emergencies, how we prepare for these inevitabilities, and how to recognize our personal needs to find emotional support during these crises. This episode will empower you to have a plan but prioritize your well-being while caring for all your children in these challenging times.
Key Moments:[4:34] Censoring medical history for son, balancing information
[11:49] Mom's emotions and the need to express them
[18:00] Emergencies caused by behavior should be discussed after it happens
[39:50] Anxious about an upcoming trip because of past trip traumas
[43:25] What calms you? How to avoid a meltdownResources:
Sara's Emergency Checklist: 6 Manageable Steps to Prepare Your Backup CaregiverIf you enjoyed the show:
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Carrie sat down with Kristin and Todd Evans to discuss their newly released book, How to Build a Thriving Marriage As You Care for Children with Disabilities. They talk about communication strategies for couples, how they manage stress, and the ongoing grief we experience as special needs parents. This episode offers practical advice and emotional support for couples facing similar challenges.
Ep. 166; May 21, 2024
Key Moments:
[4:49] Lots of shame that we can feel as parents
[11:14] Marriage struggles: we had hurt each other a lot
[16:19] Deliberate moments and mindfulness relieve stress and bond each other together
[24:08] Ignoring our emotions led to unhealthy coping strategies
[34:42] Family/Friends offer helpful, specific things they can doResources:
How To Build a Thriving Marriage As You Care For Children With DisabilitiesKristin & Toddâs Website
Kristin & Toddâs Previous Interview on Take HeartIf you enjoyed the show:
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Join hosts Carrie, Sara, and Amy as we take a deep dive into the grief we face as mothers of children with disabilities. In this episode, we talk about how grief can feel like fear or anger, the need to be honest with ourselves, and the transformative nature of lament. This topic is something you may not know that you need until you allow yourself the space.
Eps. 165: May 7, 2024
Key Moments:
[4:23] Guilt says âI didnât do enough.â
[7:29] My anger is actually grief
[11:04} Why doesnât God stop the pain
[17:58] âEverything is not going to be ok, but weâre gonna get through itâResources:
Extraordinary Kids: Nurturing & Championing Your Child With Special Needs
How To Build A Thriving Marriage
Dark Clouds Deep MercyIf you enjoyed the show:
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We are excited to share Amyâs conversation with Michele Cushatt, an author, communicator, and 3-time cancer survivor. Michele's latest book, "A Faith That Will Not Fail," offers practices to strengthen faith during challenging circumstances. Amy and Michele talk about acknowledging and dealing with trauma honestly, offering hope. They also discuss the concept of lament and the practice of relinquishment.
Eps. 164 : April 16, 2024
Navigating Family Trauma: Finding Hope Amidst Hardship with Michele CushattSummary:
Key Moments:[9:20] Fear of letting go
[18:34] Struggle to be content, envy is natural
[23:08] Suffering reveals gifts
[35:12] Guide children loosely, but then let go
[41:20] Permission to grieve and trusting the processResources:
Micheleâs Website
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Carrie, Amy, and Sara answer listenerâs questions in this episode. Questions like, âHow do you make good decisions regarding your childâs health?â and âWhatâs the appropriate amount of information you give when answering someoneâs question about your child?â We have learned some real lessons over the years through trial and error and want to share with you some practical advice from our experiences.\
Eps. 163
Date: April 9, 2024Key Moments:
[3:45] Choosing who you speak to about the hard things
[15:44] Advocating for privacy and understanding in healthcare
[21:54] Ask for more time to make decisions
[35:08] Lifeâs changes and feeling jealous of others
Resources:
A Blessing for the Gift of Doubt
Recovery Formation
Ep 143: Godâs Faithfulness in the Midst of Daily Suffering
Saraâs Wedge BootsIf you enjoyed the show:
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We are honored to welcome the inspiring Kelley Coleman to our podcast. Kelley shared her deeply personal journey as a parent of a child with multiple disabilities and how she ended up writing her book, "Everything No One Tells You About Parenting." Her authenticity and wisdom shine through in this interview. We discuss the lack of information parents are provided on diagnosis and how thereâs not one specific place a parent can go to find the info and support they need. We talked about the crucial aspects of caregiving in navigating the healthcare system, accessing financial support, and our need for self-care that might be unconventional.
Ep. 162; March 19, 2024
Key Moments:
[7:03] Care plan for my dependent child brings victories
[15:52] State disability definitions and benefits
[26:12] Getting a second opinion is freeing
[39:57] Balancing rewards and guilt of parenting challenges
[44:05] Going home Googling things and cryingResources:
https://www.kelleycoleman.com/
https://www.kelleycoleman.com/books
https://www.instagram.com/hellokelleycoleman/
https://www.facebook.com/kelley.coleman.56
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As caregivers, we are well acquainted with transitions, and very much so in regard to our children. In this collaborative, Amy, Sara, and Carrie discuss the difficulties of life transitions as parents. They talk about their personal experiences, including making medical decisions and educational changes. The challenges of balancing autonomy and outside influences, going against medical recommendations, and seeking guidance for decisions are all discussed. We hope this episode offers valuable insights and practical tips for you!
Key Moments:
[2:20] 4 different types of transitions
[7:59] Planned our sonâs birthâŠbut have learned our lesson
[11:25] We donât use âneverâ when it comes to health
[24:34] Comparing to others make transitions harder
[35:30] Balancing hope and griefResources:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ace.193Hospital Stay Guide by Carrie M. Holt: Listen to Episode 140, âHospital Stay Survival: Spiritually & Practically.â You can access the transcript with links to her guide HERE.
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Being a parent to a child with special needs comes with its own unique set of challenges, and being misunderstood is a chief issue. As Amy, Carrie, and Sara share their personal experiences and insights, they provide valuable guidance on responding with grace and resilience when faced with misunderstandingsâŠeven though they donât do it perfectly every time. They discuss the balance of speaking the truth and advocating for their children without being intentionally hurtful to others and not feeling the need to explain everything, instead using their child's trauma as an explanation only when necessary. Join us for a funny and truthful episode about real life.
Ep. 160; February 27, 2024
Key Moments:
[1:35] One thing we want to set straight about a misunderstanding
[4:06] People ask the most inappropriate things, even those in medicine
[13:40] The tension of mishandling comments and drawing boundaries around ourselves
[21:00] Trying to understand others' intentions in church and beyond
[28:23] Why donât more people understand trauma
Resources:
The Place We Find Ourselves Podcast
The Allender Center PodcastIf you enjoyed the show:
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Summary: Sara opens up about the challenges of feeling misunderstood as a mom and caregiver to a son with disabilities. Her top 5 instances when she has felt misunderstood touch on assumptions about strength, the perpetual feeling of needing to do more, finding a balance between identity and the constant impact of the diagnosis, and more. We know youâll feel seen by listening to Saraâs honesty. So, grab a cup of coffee and prepare to dive into the heartfelt truth in this episode.
Key Moments:
[1:54] âYouâre so strong!â and âI couldnât do what you are doing!â
[7:02] Believing in God but having fear
[8:05] We can be busy, never alone but not fulfilled
[10:22] Life outside of our childâs diagnosisIf you enjoyed the show:
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As parents of special needs kids, we have felt the weight of being misunderstood. In this episode, Carrie shares her experience with people who have made assumptions about us or our children and how it affects us as parents. She explains three things she wishes people understood about her parenting journey and three ways to handle ourselves when we have been misunderstood. Experiencing this life can be lonely, and this episode will give you some practical ways to manage the complex feelings that come.
Ep.158: February 13, 2024
Key Moments:
[0:52} A hospital experience Iâll never forget
[5:08] Our grief is just as heavy as losing someone
[8:22] Is this assumption worth addressing?
[9:58] Assume the best intent, ask questions before assuming
[11:25] Our reaction may not be about the offenderResources:
Scriptures mentioned: Exodus 14:14; Isaiah 53
No Other KingIf you enjoyed the show:
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Do you ever feel like people just don't get it? We've all had those experiences - whether it's strangers at the grocery store or even our closest friends not understanding our journey as special needs parents. Amy shares some practical things you can do to bridge the divide and navigate the challenges of being misunderstood. We donât want to stay isolated because of other peopleâs lack of awareness. Amy encourages us to continue the quest for connection.
Key Moments:
[2:25] Comparing a difficult child to a dog?
[4:39] Shifting our perspective
[6:00] Letâs calm down, being a nonanxious person
[8:30] Give them a glimpse into your life
Resources:
A Curious Pursuit of Christ: Jamie HarperIf you enjoyed the show:
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Carrie welcomes her longtime friend, Erika Weise, a mother navigating the complexities of caring for a son with a trach and ventilator. Erika shares her personal insights on acceptance of this new life vs. living in denial, finding meaning in adversity, and creating a support network for families facing similar challenges. This down-to-earth discussion will inspire you with their stories of friendship and the unwavering belief that, even in the face of adversity, everything will be okay.
Ep.156; January 30, 2024Key Moments:
[3:17] Birth stories and diagnosis
[15:51] Dealing with doctor's negative perspective
[18:55] Parenting a 20-year-old vs. a child
[20:00] A friend who will walk with you
[22:50] Using this to help someone elseIf you enjoyed the show:
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The Power of Perspective: Amy, Carrie, and Sara Share Their Stories
Summary: Amy, Carrie and Sara look back at their early years of parenting. They share the stories from the days of early diagnosis and what they thought back thenâŠnoting with humor how ridiculous it seemed back then. But looking at the early days has helped them appreciate how far theyâve come, giving them perspective. They discuss the concept of advocating for their child, the desire for control (even though they didnât have it!) and the worry that they carried. They have found that this life really does hold grief and gratitude at the same time.
Key Moments:
[13:21] Not thinking through all the âwhat ifsâ
[16:16] Advocating for our child
[20:54] Looking back, need to give ourselves grace
[34:43 ] Grief and gratitude
Resources:
Holding Grief and Gratitude as a Special Needs Mom: An Interview With Dr. Lynne M. BaabIf you enjoyed the show:
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Summary: There are real differences between parenting and caregiving. Sara shares about the dichotomies of the responsibilities that we have and how those play out in our daily lives when considering traveling, hiring a babysitter and even just going to the grocery store. Noticing the differences in the roles allows us to give ourselves grace for this road we are on.
Key Moments:
[1:34] Parent diaper bag vs Caregiver care bag for a lifetime
[2:19] Parent babysitting vs Caregiver child care accommodations
[4:45] Parent to the grocery vs Caregiver grocery experience
[5:43] Parent vs Caregiver Vacations with special needs children
[9:14] Caregiving is tiresome and grace is needed
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Do you have times when things are chaotic, and you wonder if God is even there? Looking back on her earlier parenting, Carrie discusses three things she wished she knew and fully understood as a mom to a medically fragile child: giving herself grace as she prioritized different things in life, releasing self-criticism, and living fully in the midst of life's chaos with the overarching theme of seeing God's presence in every circumstance and difficulty. Don't miss this episode.
Ep.153; January 9, 2024
Key Moments:
[0:40] Somethings you have to experience to learn them
[3:50] Balance in life is a myth
[7:10] Waiting for life to be calm
[9:30] Look for Him in chaosResources:
Scriptures Mentioned: Job 23:8-10; Psalm 91:1-2
The Bible Recap by Tara Leigh-Cobble
Julian Consulting
Episode 147: How Creativity Keeps Us Grounded & PresentIf you enjoyed the show:
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Episode 152: January 2,2024
Summary: Amy shares her top four things she wishes she could have done differently through her 31-year journey as a mom, particularly to her kids with invisible disabilities. Things like managing emergencies, acknowledging responsibility boundaries, and understanding the limitations of love are topics she touches on in this episode. Join the conversation and discover that you are a great mom as you walk your special needs journey!
Key Moments:[2:45] Not everything is an emergency
[4:45] Hurry is an inner condition that is fear based
[7:50] Being present but not responsible
[9:45] Loving my child in her way
Resources:
The Good and Beautiful God: James Bryant SmithIf you enjoyed the show:
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We often think of the three gifts the Wise Men gave to Jesus, but what about the intangible gifts of time, worship, and many others? Sara encourages us to consider the intangible gifts given to the Savior, and how we can offer these same ones to God and one another.
This is a replay of Episode 66, which was originally aired on December 21, 2021. The original recording and transcript are available on our website HERE.Key Moments:
[0:59] Matthew 2:1-12
[3:19] The intangible gifts from the wise men
[5:17} What we can learn from the wise menResources:
Scripture mentioned: Matthew 2:1-12If you enjoyed the show:
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In the struggles of daily life, it can be difficult to believe God, His Word, His will, and to relinquish control. In Advent, we see the example of Mary, who chose small steps of obedience and surrender while facing many obstacles. May we follow her pattern and choose belief in small ways each day.
This is a replay of Episode 65, which was originally aired on December 14, 2021. The original recording and transcript are available on our website HERE.Key Moments:
[0:49] Luke 1:26-30
[1:52] An announcement that changed lifeâs course
[4:15] When did Mary begin to believe?
[6:20] Struggle with surrenderResources:
Scripture mentioned- Luke 1:26-30, 38, 78-79If you enjoyed the show:
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Mary, Jesusâ mother, had to embrace the unknown and the unfamiliar to welcome life. Amy shares how saying yes to the unknown can draw us into the deeper meanings of this season and our relationship with God.
This is a replay of Episode 64, which was originally aired on December 7, 2021. The original recording and transcript are available on our website HERE.Key Moments:
[0:37] Luke 2:8-19
[2:17] I can relate to pregnant Mary
[3:35] Mary kept saying yes to God
[4:40} God is with usResources:
Have you purchased our new book, The Other Side of Special? Subscribe to our newsletter on the Take Heart WebsiteGet our free resource on finding Gratitude, Peace, and HopeReview and like us on Apple Podcasts Share us with others from wherever you listen to podcastsFollow us on Instagram @takeheartspecialmomsFind Amy at www.amyjbrown.com/ or on Instagram @amyjbrown_writerFind Carrie at www.carriemholt.com or on Instagram @carriemholtFind Sara at www.saraclime.com or on Instagram @saraclime
Scripture-Luke 2:8-19
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