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Paris Marx is joined by Cecilia Rikap to discuss the ways Amazon, Microsoft, and Google gain power from companies becoming dependent on their cloud services and how generative AI exacerbates that problem.
Cecilia Rikap is an Associate Professor in Economics at University College London.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham.
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Paris and Cecilia were co-authors on the âReclaiming digital sovereigntyâ white paper.Cecilia wrote a report called âDynamics of Corporate Governance Beyond Ownership in AI.âSupport the show
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Paris Marx is joined by Ali Alkhatib to discuss the difficulty of holding the AI industry accountable and why sometimes it makes sense for people to destroy AI systems that are harming them.
Ali wrote a blog post called âDestroy AI.â
Ali Alkhatib works with Logic(s) magazine and was previously the director of the Center for Applied Data Ethics.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Paris Marx is joined by Molly White, Brian Merchant, and Eric Wickham to discuss the highs and lows (mostly lows) of this year in tech news.
Molly joined Brian and Paris on System Crash.Peter Thiel made some dumb remarks about Luigi Mangione on the Piers Morgan show while looking very shiny.Apple sold fewer than half a million Vision Pro headsets this year.
Molly White is the creator of Web3 is Going Just Great and Follow the Crypto. Brian Merchant is my co-host on System Crash, a new podcast weâre hosting. Heâs also a longtime tech journalist and author of Blood in the Machine. Eric Wickham is the producer for Tech Wonât Save Us, along with a bunch of other podcast, and an independent journalist.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Paris Marx is joined by Amanda Mull to discuss the data-informed decisions that are changing the way we all experience air travel, mostly for the worse.
Amanda wrote about the changing flying experience for Bloomberg and the big investments being made in airport lounges for The Atlantic.Legacy airlines are taking budget customers with the ultracheap fares.In the US, budget airlines are beginning to offer premium seats and other amenities to attract more premium customers.
Amanda Mull is a senior reporter and Buying Power columnist at Bloomberg Businessweek.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Our Data Vampires series may be over, but Paris interviewed a bunch of experts on data centers and AI whose insights shouldnât go to waste. Weâre releasing those interviews as bonus episodes for Patreon supporters. Hereâs a preview of this weekâs premium episode with Aurora Gomez Delgado of Tu Nube Seca Mi RĂo. For the full interview, support the show on Patreon.
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Paris Marx is joined by Cam Wilson to discuss Australiaâs plan to ban under-16s from social media, the interests driving it, and whether itâs the right approach to tackle the harms of those platforms.
Cam wrote about the under-16 social media ban for Crikey.
Cam Wilson is associate editor at Crikey.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Our Data Vampires series may be over, but Paris interviewed a bunch of experts on data centers and AI whose insights shouldnât go to waste. Weâre releasing those interviews as bonus episodes for Patreon supporters. Hereâs a preview of this weekâs premium episode with Brid Smith, a former TD or Member of Parliament in the Irish Parliament in Dublin. For the full interview, support the show on Patreon.
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Our Data Vampires series may be over, but Paris interviewed a bunch of experts on data centers and AI whose insights shouldnât go to waste. Weâre releasing those interviews as bonus episodes for Patreon supporters. Hereâs a preview of this weekâs premium episode with Sebastian Lehuede, a lecturer at Kingâs College London. For the full interview, support the show on Patreon.
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Paris Marx is joined by MV Ramana to discuss the tech industryâs push to have nuclear energy power its data centers and why the reality of nuclear power isnât as great as its promoters often make it seem.
Langdon Winner wrote The Whale and the Reactor and Do Artifacts Have Politics?. Timothy Mitchell wrote Carbon Democracy.Microsoft made an agreement to try to restart Three Mile Island, but itâs not a done deal yet.Data centers are fueling fossil fuel use, despite claims about nuclear and renewables. Leaked documents in October confirmed Israel has nuclear weapons.
MV Ramana is a Professor and Simons Chair in Disarmament, Global and Human Security at the School of Public Policy and Global Affairs at the University of British Columbia. He is the author of Nuclear Is Not the Solution: The Folly of Atomic Power in the Age of Climate Change.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Paris Marx is joined by Becca Lewis to discuss the right-wing project to shape the internet in the 1990s and how weâre still living with the legacies of those actions today.
Paris wrote about Marc Andreessen mentioning the Italian Futurists in his Techno-Optimist Manifesto.Ruth Eveleth wrote about the Italian Futurists in the context of Silicon Valley.In 1995, Wired published a story on how âAmericaâs futurist politiciansâ Al Gore and Newt Gingrich were in an epic struggle to shape the internet.Becca mentioned the work of Nicole Hemmer and Patricia Aufderheide.
Becca Lewis is a postdoctoral researcher at Stanford University.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Our Data Vampires series may be over, but Paris interviewed a bunch of experts on data centers and AI whose insights shouldnât go to waste. Weâre releasing those interviews as bonus episodes for Patreon supporters. Hereâs a preview of this weekâs premium episode with Cecilia Rikap, an Associate Professor in Economics at University College London. For the full interview, support the show on Patreon.
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Paris Marx is joined by Brian Merchant to discuss the fallout from the US election, what it means for the tech industry, and more importantly, what it might mean for all of us. They also celebrate the show hitting 250 episodes!
Brian wrote about the results of the election on his newsletter.Paris wrote about why we need to remember who enabled Elon Musk to obtain his power.There are already reports of advertisers returning to Twitter/X to gain favor with Musk and Trump.OpenAI is moving away from its original non-profit status.Uber chief legal officer Tony West told Kamala Harris to stop attacking big business.
Brian Merchant is a longtime tech writer and author of Blood in the Machine: The Origins of the Rebellion Against Big Tech.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Our Data Vampires series may be over, but Paris interviewed a bunch of experts on data centers and AI whose insights shouldnât go to waste. Starting this week, weâre releasing those interviews as bonus episodes for Patreon supporters. Hereâs a preview of this weekâs premium episode with Ali Alkhatib, Logic(s) data editor and former interim director of the Center for Applied Data Ethics. For the full interview, support the show on Patreon.
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Paris Marx is joined by tante to discuss troubling developments in the open source world as Wordpress goes to war with WP Engine and a new definition of open source AI doesnât require being open about training data.
tante wrote about the problem with the Open Source Initiativeâs definition of open source AI.Check out this link for the full breakdown on the Wordpress drama.Wordpress changed its trademark guidelines on September 19 regarding the use of the WP abbreviation.Tumblr and Wordpress started selling user data for AI training earlier this year.A lot of the controversy around Richard Stallman started blowing up in 2019.
tante is a sociotechnologist, writer, speaker, and Luddite working on tech and its social impact.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Paris Marx is joined by Jacob Silverman to discuss all the money Elon Musk is pouring into the US election and what Silicon Valleyâs political influence will mean regardless of who becomes president.
The New York Times reported on Elon Muskâs efforts to get Trump elected in the final two weeks of the campaign.The Pennsylvania district attorney sued Elon Muskâs PAC to stop his $1 million giveaways.Marc Andreessen wrote the Techno-Optimist Manifesto and the Little Tech Agenda.FTX was up to way more shady things that didnât make it into the first trial of Sam Bankman-Fried. The second didnât go ahead after he was found guilty in the first.The canvassing operation for Trump by Elon Musk's PAC has been flagged as potentially fraudulent.The US Supreme Courtâs Chevron decision will have significant consequences for federal regulators.
Jacob Silverman is the author of Gilded Rage: Elon Musk and the Radicalization of Silicon Valley, coming in September 2025 from Bloomsbury. His book Easy Money is now available in paperback.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Tech billionaires are embracing extreme right-wing politics. Itâs not just to enhance their power, but to try to realize a harmful vision for humanityâs future that could see humans merging with machines and possibly even living in computer simulations. Will we allow them to put our collective resources behind their science fiction dreams, or fight for a better future and a different kind of technology to go along with it? This is episode 4 of Data Vampires, a special four-part series from Tech Wonât Save Us.
Postdoctoral candidate at Case Western Reserve University Ămile P. Torres, features reporter at The Information Julia Black, Goldsmiths University lecturer Dan McQuillan, and former head of the Center for Applied Data Ethics Ali Alkhatib were interviewed for this episode.Pieces by Sam Altman, Marc Andreessen, and an interview with Elon Musk were cited.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The show is hosted by Paris Marx. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Paris Marx is joined by Ulises A. Mejias and Nick Couldry to discuss how Silicon Valley's extractive data collection regime and the power it grants them resembles a much older form of exploitation: colonialism.
Read an excerpt of Ulises and Nickâs book.Ulises has helped advance the Non-Aligned Technologies Movement.The World Economic Forum and Accenture published a report on governance of AI.Geoffrey Hinton was one of the winners of the Nobel Prize for Physics. Paris wrote about why we shouldnât trust his assessment of AI.Google told the UK Labour government it will be left behind in the AI race if it doesnât do what the company demands.Data centers use 21% of electricity in Ireland, and number that could jump to 31% within the next three years.Home building in West London could be restricted until 2035 because data centers have used up the available energy.Kenya is being drafted into the USâs anti-China tech alliance, which includes building data centers while ignoring the poor working conditions of data labelers and content moderators.
Ulises A. Mejias is a professor of Communication Studies at SUNY Oswego and Nick Couldry is a professor of Media, Communications and Social Theory at the London School of Economics. They are the co-authors of Data Grab: The New Colonialism of Big Tech and How to Fight Back and among the co-founders of the network Tierra ComĂșn.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Sam Altman is clear: heâs ready to sacrifice anything for his AI fantasies. But are we? We dig into why generative AI has such extreme energy demands and how major tech companies are trying to rewrite climate accounting rules to cover how much their emissions are rising. AI isnât just churning out visual slop; itâs also being used to transform how our society works and further reduce peopleâs power over their lives. Itâs a disaster any way you look at it. This is episode 3 of Data Vampires, a special four-part series from Tech Wonât Save Us.
Hugging Face Climate Lead Sasha Luccioni, Associate Professor in Economics Cecilia Rikap, former head of the Center for Applied Data Ethics Ali Alkhatib, Goldsmiths University lecturer Dan McQuillan, and Director of Research at the Distributed AI Research Institute Alex Hanna were interviewed for this episode.Interviews with Sam Altman and Brad Smith were cited.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The show is hosted by Paris Marx. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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Paris Marx is joined by Julia Black to discuss who Curtis Yarvin is and how his anti-democratic, far-right writings have influenced the politics of Silicon Valley and the wider American extreme right.
Julia wrote about Curtis Yarvin and his ideas for The Information. She also wrote about the Musk-aligned tech CEOs trying to shape how we think about the future.Paris wrote about Marc Andreessenâs Techno-Optimist Manifesto.The Dark Enlightenment is an anti-democratic, anti-egalitarian political project.Gil Duran wrote about the Reboot Conference and how it put the connections between the tech industry and the Heritage Foundation on display.The Heritage Foundation is flooding federal agencies with thousands of information requests to identify government employees to be purged under a second Trump administration.Peter Thiel wanted Balaji Srinivasan to become head of the Federal Drug Administration under the Trump presidency.According to Nick Land, hyperstition refers to ideas that bring themselves into being.
Julia Black is a features reporter on The Informationâs Weekend Team.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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As hyperscale data centers move into communities, they come with significant water and energy demands that some are not willing to put up with. We go to Ireland, Spain, and Chile to learn about the effects of data centers on the ground and why some communities are fighting back. Theyâre asking whether the tradeoffs theyâre being expected to make are really necessary. This is episode 2 of Data Vampires, a special four-part series from Tech Wonât Save Us.
People Before Profit TD Brid Smith, Tu Nube Seca Mi RĂo organizer Aurora Gomez Delgado, and Kingâs College London lecturer Sebastian Lehuede were interviewed for this episode.Some pieces by Dara Kerr in NPR, Sarah Emerson and Emily Baker-White in Forbes, and Hannah Daly in The Irish Times were cited.A full transcript can be found on the showâs official website.
Tech Wonât Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.
The show is hosted by Paris Marx. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.
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