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  • This week Anna & Paul sampled some of the exciting new old games that just recently released: King's Quest - It Takes Two To Tangle, Space Quest V - Talkie Edition, and King's Quest VI - AGI Demake. They sampled all of them, and then talk about weird Canadian sandwiches. And possibly the games too, I don't know, you tell me. Mangia!

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    Download King's Quest: It Takes Two To Tangle

    Download Space Quest V: Voice Acting Mod

    Download King's Quest VI AGI Demake

    (Developers Playthrough)

    The Adventure Games Podcast - Interview with Paul Korman - The Classic Gamers Guild Podcast & The Phantom Fellows

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's Tex Murphy: Mean Streets - A Fair & Balanced Retrospective

    Adventure Game Geek's Some of the Spookiest Adventure Games of 2024 (feat. Paul!)

    OneShortEye's The Dirty Secrets of King's Quest IV (appearances by Anna & Paul!)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's The Best Space Quest Game Now Has Voices - SQV Voice Mod

    Save Your Game's Episode 32 - Kings Quest IV: The Perils of Rosella & Paul Korman

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Conversations with Curtis' Paul Korman & Daniel play The Phantom Fellows!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Alexandra Boyd (Titanic / Monkey Island / Ship of Dreams: Titanic Movie Diaries)

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

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    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    The Phantom Fellows is available on:

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  • This week Anna and Paul are ranking some adventure games that weren't made by Sierra or LucasArts. If Paul got his way this episode is called I Have No Willy And I Must Beamish, but I'm guessing it's prolly something clunky and annoyingly descriptive. Anyway this was fun, Mangia!

    Play our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows is out now!

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    The Adventure Games Podcast - Interview with Paul Korman - The Classic Gamers Guild Podcast & The Phantom Fellows

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's Tex Murphy: Mean Streets - A Fair & Balanced Retrospective

    Adventure Game Geek's Some of the Spookiest Adventure Games of 2024 (feat. Paul!)

    OneShortEye's The Dirty Secrets of King's Quest IV (appearances by Anna & Paul!)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's The Best Space Quest Game Now Has Voices - SQV Voice Mod

    Save Your Game's Episode 32 - Kings Quest IV: The Perils of Rosella & Paul Korman

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Conversations with Curtis' Paul Korman & Daniel play The Phantom Fellows!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Larry The O (Escape from Monkey Island / Galactic Battlegrounds / Jedi Knight)

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

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    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    The Phantom Fellows is available on:

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  • This week Anna & Paul talk about Gabriel Knight 2: The Beast Within!

    Look. I'm gonna give it to you straight, seee, this isn't our finest hour, but we wanted to get something to you under tricky circumstances and this is arguably, possibly better than deafening silence, I don't know, you tell us. Mangia?

    Play our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows is out now!

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    AdventureGameGeek's Gabriel Knight 2: The Beast Within – Beastly Location Tour

    The Adventure Games Podcast - Interview with Paul Korman - The Classic Gamers Guild Podcast & The Phantom Fellows

    Save Your Game's Episode 32 - Kings Quest IV: The Perils of Rosella & Paul Korman

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's Lighting a fire for no reason | The Phantom Fellows (pt. 1)

    Adventure Game Geek's The Phantom Fellows Interview - Adventure Game Fan Fair 2024 (feat. Paul!)

    OneShortEye's I Broke My Friend's Game (so you don't have to) (feat. Paul!)

    Conversations with Curtis' Paul Korman & Daniel play The Phantom Fellows!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Julian Kwasneski (The Dig / Outlaws / Grim Fandango / Psychonauts / Sam & Max)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's Dave Gilbert, Charles Cecil & More Discuss Success & Failures

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    The Phantom Fellows is available on:

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  • This week Anna & Paul are ranking Sierra Point And Clicks, AGAIN! This time they do it even more betterly. That's not true, it's still pretty cavalier if not lawless, but this time it's the titles released in 1993-1996. Ish. What game comes out on top? Totally forgot. For sure a Sierra one though. Mangia!

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    The Adventure Games Podcast - Interview with Paul Korman - The Classic Gamers Guild Podcast & The Phantom Fellows

    Save Your Game's Episode 32 - Kings Quest IV: The Perils of Rosella & Paul Korman

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's Lighting a fire for no reason | The Phantom Fellows (pt. 1)

    Adventure Game Geek's The Phantom Fellows Interview - Adventure Game Fan Fair 2024 (feat. Paul!)

    OneShortEye's I Broke My Friend's Game (so you don't have to) (feat. Paul!)

    Conversations with Curtis' Paul Korman & Daniel play The Phantom Fellows!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Julian Kwasneski (The Dig / Outlaws / Grim Fandango / Psychonauts / Sam & Max)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's That's Edutainment - Adventure Game Fan Fair Panel

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

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    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    The Phantom Fellows is available on:

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  • This week Anna & Paul are ranking Sierra Point And Clicks! Look, I'm typing this through my cats legs while he looks deeply into my eyes so let's justvzdvd - okay now he's sitting on most of both my arms. Look you know the deal, there were games, now they're ranked and a bunch of laughs and nonsense happen in between - MANGIA!

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    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's Space Quest on GBA has been FIXED (after 20 years)

    Adventure Game Geek's The Phantom Fellows Interview - Adventure Game Fan Fair 2024 (feat. Paul!)

    OneShortEye's I Broke My Friend's Game (so you don't have to) (feat. Paul!)

    Conversations with Curtis' Tori, Paul & Daniel play Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars Reforged!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Julian Kwasneski (The Dig / Outlaws / Grim Fandango / Psychonauts / Sam & Max)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's 13 ICONIC adventure game items that are entrenched in gaming culture

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Save Your Game

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

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    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

  • An episode 4 years in the making...

    105,482 Line of Code & Dialog

    19,850 Sprites

    1,415 Days in Development

    150 Inventory Items

    151 Achievements

    72 Rooms In Game

    39 Characters

    14-22 Hours of Gameplay

    1 Developer

    This is it. On September 27th The Phantom Fellows will be released. Here is our game developers roadmap, how an adventure game goes from an idea to a reality.

    I've had the best 4 years of my life making this game and I am so excited to share it with you 🤍 -Paul

    Mangia! Also thank you to Jack Allin who (doesn't know it but) helped tremendously with the framing of this episode. Okay go, manga tutti!

    Wishlist our adventure game, The Phantom Fellows! Releases September 27th on Steam & on GOG

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's Back Seat Designers - Ep. 0: Reacquaintances

    Adventure Game Geek's The Phantom Fellows Interview - Adventure Game Fan Fair 2024 (feat. Paul!)

    OneShortEye's The Game That's Nothing But Stairs

    Conversations with Curtis' A Conversation with Bob Clendenin (Scrubs / Cougar Town / Dude, Where's My Car? / L.A. Noire)

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Jane Jensen (Gabriel Knight / Gray Matter / King's Quest VI / Police Quest 3)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's 13 ICONIC adventure game items that are entrenched in gaming culture

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Save Your Game

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

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    "CGG Theme" and "Plate Runner" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Available on Steam & on GOG

  • This week Anna & Paul are talking about Indiana McCracken and The Loom of Tentacle Island! Ok fine, they're actually ranking all of LucasArtseses adventure games but the dummy who writes these just wanted to say that (hey screw you, me!) So grab some snacks and get cozy - unless your thing is listening to this while exercising in which case absolutely do not get a snack or cozy, and tune in to find out where your favorite game lands in this very professional, very serious* ranking! Mangia!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows Releasing September 27th!

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's Space Quest... on the Game Boy Advance?!

    Adventure Game Geek's The Phantom Fellows Interview - Adventure Game Fan Fair 2024 (feat. Paul!)

    OneShortEye's The Game That's Nothing But Stairs

    Conversations with Curtis' David Fox & Matthew Alan Kane play Zak McKracken with Say Mistage & Daniel Albu - PART 3

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Julian Kwasneski (The Dig / Outlaws / Grim Fandango / Psychonauts / Sam & Max)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's Al Lowe playing the Leisure Suit Larry Theme at the Adventure Game Fan Fair (feat. Paul!)

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    Games In the Episode:

    Maniac Mansion

    Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders

    Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: The Graphic Adventure

    Loom

    The Secret of Monkey Island

    Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge

    Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis

    Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle

    Sam & Max Hit the Road

    Full Throttle

    The Dig

    The Curse of Monkey Island

    Grim Fandango

    Escape from Monkey Island

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

    *Seriousness not guaranteed, must be 18 years or older or have a parent's credit card to judge the level of professionalism

  • This week Anna & Paul are ranking Sierra's SCI0 games! SCI0 was a magical time for Sierra, Colonel's Bequest, Space Quest 3, Hero's Quest, King's Quest IV, Leisure Suit Larry 2 & 3, codename iceman, Police Quest 2, Conquests of Camelot... and because ranking these legendary games is such a difficult task, they've brought in help from the CGG community as well as from their Adventure Game Hotspot Network friends. Where does your favorite land? Find out now on this weeks thrilling installment of the CGG Podcast - MANGIA!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows Releasing September 27th!

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's What happened to me at the Adventure Game Fan Fair convention (w Anna & Paul)

    Adventure Game Geek's The Phantom Fellows Interview - Adventure Game Fan Fair 2024 (feat. Paul!)

    OneShortEye's The Game That's Nothing But Stairs

    Conversations with Curtis' Al Lowe plays Freddy Pharkas: Frontier Pharmacist with game developers Bill Shockley & Steve Conrad!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Francisco González (Rosewater / Lamplight City / Shardlight / A Golden Wake)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's Al Lowe playing the Leisure Suit Larry Theme at the Adventure Game Fan Fair (feat. Paul!)

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    Games In the Episode:

    King's Quest IV

    King's Quest I: Quest for the Crown

    Colonel's Bequest

    Hero's Quest

    Space Quest III

    Leisure Suit Larry 2

    Police Quest 2

    Leisure Suit Larry 3

    Codename Iceman

    Conquests of Camelot

    Mixed-Up Mother Goose

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

  • This week Anna & Paul are recapping their recent trip to the Adventure Game Fan Fair, hosted by Adventure Game Hotspot! Look, this is a pretty low-key, relaxed chat and Anna isn't even home yet but we figured instead of skipping this week maybe some of you would wanna hear about meeting the Sierra Alumni. the many amazing panels and meeting all the wonderful characters that make up our adv game community. So please consider enjoying this, we'll be back with a proper episode in 2 weeks time, MANGIA!

    Special Thanks to Joshua & Jack for putting the fair together, without them this magical weekend wouldn't have been ♥️

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows

    Pixel Panel feat. Paul, Meredith, Julia & Tom

    Official Fan Fair Recap Video: Adventure Games ARE NOT DEAD - Adventure Game Fan Fair

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's Police Quest II: A Fair and Balanced Retrospective

    Adventure Game Geek's Magret & FaceDeBouc - The French Sam & Max (PC Game Review)

    OneShortEye's The Game That's Nothing But Stairs

    Conversations with Curtis' Hal Barwood plays Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine with Daniel Albu!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation about Indiana Jones and the Iron Phoenix with Aric Wilmunder

    Adventure Game Hotspot's Indie adventure games we can't stop playing in 2024 (Feat. Paul!)

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    Games In the Episode:

    King's Quest

    Space Quest

    Leisure Suit Larry

    Heir of the Dog

    Perfect Tides

    Pajama Sam

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

  • This week Anna & Paul are ranking Sierra's AGI games! It's been 6 years and 200+ episodes and they finally picked some of that sweet, sweet low hanging fruit and decided to rank some games. Love easy to reach fruit. There's 14 AGI (adventure) games, they've played most of them, which AGI game comes out on top? Where does your favorite land? All this and not a lot more, this week on the CGG Podcast! Mangia!

    We have a new email! [email protected]

    Wishlist our adventure game? The Phantom Fellows

    Let's hang out at the Adventure Game Fan Fair!

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's Police Quest II: A Fair and Balanced Retrospective

    Adventure Game Geek's Betrayed Alliance Book 1 (SCI Adventure Game) - It Really Is Free, Honest!

    OneShortEye's The Game That's Nothing But Stairs

    Conversations with Curtis' A Conversation with Roberta Williams (Phantasmagoria Reunion)

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Jane Jensen (Gabriel Knight / Gray Matter / King's Quest VI / Police Quest 3)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's Indie adventure games we can't stop playing in 2024 (Feat. Paul!)

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    Games In the Episode:

    King's Quest

    Space Quest

    Leisure Suit Larry

    Police Quest

    Gold Rush!

    Black Cauldron

    Manhunter

    Mixed-Up Mother Goose

    Donald Duck's Playground

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

  • This week Anna & Paul are talking about what it means to be human and to have played Blade Runner, the 1997 Adventure Game. This was a fun conversation that ranges from what a voxel actual is to the philosophical implications behind the questions that Blade Runner asks. And all from the differing perspectives of Anna, who is a newcomer to the IP and from Paul, who is a lifetime fan and Phillip K Dick about it. Mangia!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows

    Let's hang out at the Adventure Game Fan Fair!

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's What's the best user interface for adventure games?

    Adventure Game Geek's Betrayed Alliance Book 1 (SCI Adventure Game) - It Really Is Free, Honest!

    OneShortEye's How Speedrunners Broke Space Quest IV (again)

    Conversations with Curtis' A Conversation with Scott Cohen (Ripper / Gilmore Girls)

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Jane Jensen (Gabriel Knight / Gray Matter / King's Quest VI / Police Quest 3)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's Indie adventure games we can't stop playing in 2024 (Feat. Paul!)

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

    www.patreon.com/ClassicGamersGuild

    Join the group and talk about neat stuff!

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    Games In the Episode:

    Blade Runner

    Grim Fandango

    Gabriel Knight 3

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

  • This week Anna & Paul are comparing the original* AGI King’s Quest with the SCI remake. It's part of our EGA vs VGA Sierra Comparison series except the King's Quest remake is still in EGA so technically it's- look it's all very nerdy and pedantic. Point is, a game was made, then it was remade and we're going to be the vessel in which you vicariously experience playing both through. Mangia!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows

    Let's hang out at the Adventure Game Fan Fair!

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's A new game made in Sierra's old game engine (Betrayed Alliance)

    Adventure Game Geek's Talisman (PC DOS 1995) – Just Another Day In Thurania! (feat. Paul!)

    OneShortEye's How Speedrunners Broke Space Quest IV (again)

    Conversations with Curtis' Curtis & The Kid Play LIMBO - Part 1

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Mike Levine (The Dig / Jedi Knight / Full Throttle / Dark Forces / Afterlife)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's 11 "OH HELL NO" moments in adventure games (feat. Paul!) & The Best Adventure Games Ever - AG Hall of Fame

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    Games In the Episode:

    King's Quest Series

    Gold Rush!

    Quest For Glory

    Police Quest

    Space Quest

    Leisure Suit Larry

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

    *So we both played the 1987 remake of the original 1984 PCjr release so really you could argue we're more comparing the remake to the remake but the original remake- of which the remake was based off of, isn't much of a remake, it's more a ported and patched version of that original boot disk version from the PCjr.

    I hope this didn't accidentally make sense.

  • This week Anna & Paul are joined by Tom Hardwidge of Tall Story Games to talk about pixel art in adventure games! They discuss how pixel art began as result of a technical limitation and went on to become a stylistic choice that people still can't get enough of. They also discuss its role in adventure games, purist vs modernized pixel art, how they make pixel art and a whole bunch more! It was fun, flowy and I'm told at one point, somewhat coherent, Mangia!

    Shek out Tom's games Lucy Dreaming & Heir of the Dog

    Vote for The Phantom Fellows to be released on GOG!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows

    Let's hang out at the Adventure Game Fan Fair!

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's The Absolutely Bizarre 🍆 Moves of Space Quest III

    Adventure Game Geek's Talisman (PC DOS 1995) – Just Another Day In Thurania! (feat. Paul!)

    OneShortEye's The Insanity of King's Quest Speedruns

    Conversations with Curtis' Daniel plays Gabriel Knight 2: The Beast Within!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Rich Powell (Space Quest 7 / Gabriel Knight 2 / Phantasmagoria / King's Quest 7)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's 11 "OH HELL NO" moments in adventure games (feat. Paul!)

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 5: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 5: Stress and Expectations (feat Anna & Paul!)

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    Games In the Episode:

    Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis

    King's Quest

    Chinatown Detective Agency

    Gabriel Knight Sins of the Fathers

    Lucy Dreaming

    The Phantom Fellows

    Day of the Tentacle

    Monkey Island Series

    And probably many others

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

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  • This week Anna & Paul are joined by Ryan Slattery of Slatt Studio to discuss the pros and cons of text parser and the pros and cons of point and click, but like, comparatively. I guess it's parser vs point and click but idk, the "vs" gives it like a grudge match kinda vibe and we didn't really frame it like one of them has to win and the other lose. Here, let's start over with an overtly intellectual vibe:

    This week your hosts are joined by one R. J. Slattery to discuss - Exegesis on Interactive Paradigms: The Dialectical Tension Between Point-and-Click Interfaces and Text-Parser Mechanisms in Digital Ludology.

    Ah very good. That was most better. Mangia!

    Download Betrayed Alliance: Book 1 here!

    Support SlattStudio on Patreon!

    Vote for The Phantom Fellows to be released on GOG!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows

    Let's hang out at the Adventure Game Fan Fair!

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's This tech could have revolutionized the voice-over industry (feat. Al Lowe)

    Adventure Game Geek's Talisman (PC DOS 1995) – Just Another Day In Thurania! (feat. Paul!)

    OneShortEye's The Insanity of King's Quest Speedruns

    Conversations with Curtis' Paul & Daniel play Thimbleweed Park!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Khris Brown (Full Throttle / The Dig / The Curse of Monkey Island / Psychonauts)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's 11 "OH HELL NO" moments in adventure games (feat. Paul!)

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 3: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 3: Audio and Why It's Important to Your Ears (feat Anna & Paul!)

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 5: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 5: Stress and Expectations (feat Anna & Paul!)

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    Games In the Episode:

    Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis

    Betrayed Alliance Book 1

    Quest For Glory Series

    King's Quest IV

    Police Quest 2

    Laura Bow - he Colonials Bequest

    Gabriel Knight Sins of the Fathers

    Gold Rush!

    Leisure Suit Larry 3

    Space Quest 3 & 4

    Monkey Island Series

    Conquests of the Longbow

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

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    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

  • This week Anna & Paul are talking character design and are answering some super fun questions such as: Who's the most cosplayable character? If you had to dress like an adv game character for a month, who would it be? Which villain dressed the most villainy? What 2 characters would you freaky Friday? And a ton more, like, too much more. So join in as they get actually pretty bitchy in discussing adventure game fashion choices, it's a real good time. Mangia!

    Vote for The Phantom Fellows to be released on GOG!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows

    Let's hang out at the Adventure Game Fan Fair!

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's I ruined King's Quest V with AI

    Adventure Game Geek's Shadows of the Afterland demo – Adventures in the Afterlife

    OneShortEye's The Insanity of King's Quest Speedruns

    Conversations with Curtis' A Conversation with Pheonix Online former CEO Cesar Bittar & Marketing Manager Say Mistage!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Khris Brown (Full Throttle / The Dig / The Curse of Monkey Island / Psychonauts)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's 11 "OH HELL NO" moments in adventure games (feat. Paul!)

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 3: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 3: Audio and Why It's Important to Your Ears (feat Anna & Paul!)

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 5: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 5: Stress and Expectations (feat Anna & Paul!)

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

    www.patreon.com/ClassicGamersGuild

    Join the group and talk about neat stuff!

    Facebook Page

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    We're also on

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    Games In the Episode:

    Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis

    Day of the Tentacle

    Sam and Max Hit the Road

    Police Quest

    Laura Bow / Colonials Bequest / The Dagger of Amon Ra

    Gabriel Knight Sins of the Fathers / The Beast Within

    Gold Rush!

    Leisure Suit Larry Series

    Space Quest Series

    Monkey Island Series

    Full Throttle

    Loom

    Conquests of the Longbow

    WIlly Beamish

    (And more!)

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

  • This week Anna & Paul reimagine some classic adventures as period correct TV sitcoms. Imagine Laura Bow having her own weekly whodunit series, Gabriel Knight starring in his own X-Files or shek this out, how about Leisure Suit Larry has a show right, and he lives with his mom who's like the Muppet Babies mom or wait no, she's like Howard Wolfowitz's mom, and anyway Larry keeps trying to get how would you say... his loins tended to, and it never works out kinda like how it nothing ever worked out for Al Bundy and so in the end he's always just back home with his mom. This episode, is that but like, more better. It's actually pretty listenable, you'll see, you'll all see. Mangia!

    Vote for The Phantom Fellows to be released on GOG!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's The Worst 🍆 Moves of Space Quest II

    Adventure Game Geek's Shadows of the Afterland demo – Adventures in the Afterlife

    OneShortEye's How Speedrunners Make Robin Hood a COWARD

    Conversations with Curtis' Paul & Daniel play Disco Elysium!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Jordan Mechner (Karateka / Prince of Persia / The Last Express / Replay)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's I really hate to say this but... The Wolf Among Us 2

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 3: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 3: Audio and Why It's Important to Your Ears (feat Anna & Paul!)

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 5: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 5: Stress and Expectations (feat Anna & Paul!)

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

    www.patreon.com/ClassicGamersGuild

    Join the group and talk about neat stuff!

    Facebook Page

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    We're also on

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    Games In the Episode:

    Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis

    Maniac Mansion

    Sam and Max Hit the Road

    Police Quest

    Laura Bow / Colonials Bequest / The Dagger of Amon Ra

    Gabriel Knight Sins of the Fathers / The Beast Within

    Gold Rush!

    Leisure Suit Larry 4

    Space Quest

    Manhunter

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

  • This week Anna & Paul are the sequel police because they're talking about sequels and frankly, how, what else would we call it, this is an adventure game podcast. Okay, so we've established that policing or otherwise work regarding crime solving will not be involved in the episode, what else? Oh so, we basically go through the games that had planned sequels and briefly discuss what they could have looked like but mostly, we mostly pitch each other sequels we want and what they might have been about. Or bean about if you're Anna. And you might be! She actually, she reads these for some reason. Okay go listen this one was super fun, Mangia!

    Thimbleweed Park Spoiler Time Stamp - Skip to 1:11:50 or skip exactly 6 minutes, or press Forward 30 Seconds 12 times, GOOD LUCK

    Vote for The Phantom Fellows to be released on GOG!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's Ways to cheese in Space Quest II - [Stream VOD]

    Adventure Game Geek's Shadows of the Afterland demo – Adventures in the Afterlife

    OneShortEye's How Speedrunners Make Robin Hood a COWARD

    Conversations with Curtis' Noah Antwiler, Paul & Daniel play Toonstruck!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Jordan Mechner (Karateka / Prince of Persia / The Last Express / Replay)

    Laura Cressup's Twitch & YouTube Channels

    Adventure Game Hotspot's The most exciting upcoming adventure game has me questioning

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 3: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 3: Audio and Why It's Important to Your Ears (feat Anna & Paul!)

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 5: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 5: Stress and Expectations (feat Anna & Paul!)

    King's Quest V Vinyl campaign is almost over! - King's Quest VI: An Ode to the Isles

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

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    Join the group and talk about neat stuff!

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    We're also on

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

  • This week Anna & Paul bring you the Sierra Remake Comparison IV: This One Isn't Even Sierra. Look, you all asked us about Loom and we finally answered. We also made sense of what exactly was being weaved, all while comparing the original EGA version to the VGA and FM Towns remake. Join us as we present to you our flimsy arguments as to which is the best while Paul upsets the LucasArts fans by constantly referring to the protagonist as Bobbin Threepbare and Bobbin Threadwood, possibly by accident, frankly I'm not so sure. Mangia!

    Vote for The Phantom Fellows to be released on GOG!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's Space Quest I big boxes — common, rare, and one-of-a-kinds

    Adventure Game Geek's Twilight Oracle (with Aviv Salinas) – Adventure Game Geek – Episode 104

    OneShortEye's How Speedrunners Make Robin Hood a COWARD

    Conversations with Curtis' Tori plays Phantasmagoria 1!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Jordan Mechner (Karateka / Prince of Persia / The Last Express / Replay)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's Charles Cecil chooses adventure gaming's 5 most memorable moments

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 3: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 3: Audio and Why It's Important to Your Ears (feat Anna & Paul!)

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 5: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 5: Stress and Expectations (feat Anna & Paul!)

    Help bring the vinyl to life and back it here- King's Quest VI: An Ode to the Isles

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

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    Join the group and talk about neat stuff!

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

    *facts not guaranteed, must be 18 years or older or have a parent check them.

  • This week Anna & Paul are joined by the magician I mean musician, Erik Elsom, the talented man behind Magic Map Studio and they are discussing King's Quest VI: Having Hair is Human. They chat about the game as if to verbally play it for you which typing that out, it's amazing anybody listens to this show. But you do! And this episode is a lot of fun, probably, if I'm honest, I'm typing this like an hour before recording. Oh man, I hope this didn't jinx it... Nah, it, it's gonna be fine. You'll see, you're about to see. Mangia!

    Help bring the vinyl to life and back it here- King's Quest VI: An Ode to the Isles

    Erik Elsom's Magic Map Studio: King's Quest V and VI Soundtrack Digital Remasters

    Vote for The Phantom Fellows to be released on GOG!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows

    Help us Kickstart the Adventure Game Fan Fair 2024!

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's The Pain Train: Wolfenstein 3D and Doom... in CGA

    Adventure Game Geek's Shadows of the Afterland demo – Adventures in the Afterlife

    OneShortEye's How Speedrunners Make Robin Hood a COWARD

    Conversations with Curtis' Humongous Entertainment Developer Brad Taylor plays Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise with Daniel!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's DREAMM v3.0 - Aaron Giles' Best Emulator Yet!

    Adventure Game Hotspot's 5 Short point-and-click adventure games under 5 hours

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 3: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 3: Audio and Why It's Important to Your Ears (feat Anna & Paul!)

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 5: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 5: Stress and Expectations (feat Anna & Paul!)

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

    www.patreon.com/ClassicGamersGuild

    Join the group and talk about neat stuff!

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

  • This week Anna & Paul Mangia! Whoops, that was a typo. See I, I didn't wanna erase last episode's mangia cos that's a whole word I'd have to type but the- doesn't matter, ok this week is part 3 of the Sierra Comparison Series™️ and it's Space Questests turn! It's the AGI EGA original vs the SCI VGA remake! And it's not really versus, it's more a comparison but like how every parent secretly has a favorite child, we definitely liked one more than the other. Maybe, who really cares, Mangia!

    Vote for The Phantom Fellows to be released on GOG!

    Wishlist our adventure game! The Phantom Fellows

    Help us Kickstart the Adventure Game Fan Fair 2024!

    Shek out our friends in the Adventure Game Hotspot Network:

    Space Quest Historian's All the ways Space Quest I could 🍆 you over

    Adventure Game Geek's FLAKE The Legend of Snowblind – Adventure Game Geek – Episode 105

    OneShortEye's The WORST Robin Hood in Gaming (is also the best) (Feat. Anna as Marian & Paul as Will)

    Conversations with Curtis' Space Quest 6 developers play Space Quest 6 with Daniel Albu!

    Tech Talk with Daniel Albu's A Conversation with Clint Bajakian (Outlaws / Monkey Island 2 / Indiana Jones & the Emperor's Tomb)

    Adventure Game Hotspot's Jane Jensen Talks the future of Gabriel Knight 4 & Much More

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 3: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 3: Audio and Why It's Important to Your Ears (feat Anna & Paul!)

    AGHN Content Creators Podcast Episode 5: AGHN Content Creators Podcast - Episode 5: Stress and Expectations (feat Anna & Paul!)

    Say hi I guess!

    Twitter (Anna) - @CGGpodcast

    Twitter (Paul) - @PhantomFellows

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    Send us your words!

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Become a Patreon to support the show?

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    Join the group and talk about neat stuff!

    Facebook Page

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    "CGG Theme" and "A Minor Concussion" by The Volume Remote

    Intro greeting (usually) by (and thank you to) Hope Kodman VonStarnes

    And finally, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you- I am once again asking you, to wishlist my game. I'm workin real hard on it, full time, and I think you're gonna love it. BUT, I'm gonna need you to tap on this and then tap several more times, until it's wish listedOMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

    ThePhantomFellows.com

    The Phantom Fellows on Steam

    *facts not guaranteed, must be 18 years or older or have a parent check them.