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21.05.25 Pt 2 - Gareth Cliff is joined by media personality Alan Ford for a lively conversation on timeless icons and the role of art in a chaotic world. From Diana Ross dazzling at the Met Gala to a candid chat about how some celebrities are gracefully ageing — and others, not so much — the duo also reflect on why art, beauty, and creativity matter now more than ever. The Real Network
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21.05.25 Pt 1 - Gareth Cliff is joined by producer and media maverick Alan Ford. They unpack The Great Trek — the rising online trend inspired by the story of 49 refugees who recently left South Africa. The conversation digs into the social and political undercurrents behind the movement, while also exploring the romanticism often attached to South American escapes. Plus, a deeper dive into the evolving definition of what it means to be a refugee in today’s world The Real Network
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19.05.25 Pt 2 - Gareth Cliff sits down with actor and activist Jack Devnarain for a candid chat about the craft of acting. From classical training alongside the likes of Benedict Cumberbatch to the enigma of Tom Cruise and Scientology, no name is off-limits. Jack also opens up about his personal approach to performance—what drives him, grounds him, and keeps him sharp in a tough industry The Real Network
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19.05.25 Pt 1 - Gareth Cliff and Jack Devnarain dive straight into the deep end with a raw conversation about the harsh realities facing freelancers in South Africa's struggling media industry. Is the answer to survival found in unionisation? Or is it too late to turn the tide? The discussion doesn’t stop there—Trump’s tariffs take centre stage, and as President Cyril Ramaphosa heads to Washington, South Africans are left holding their breath The Real Network
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16.05.25 Pt 2 - Gareth Cliff and Simphiwe Mthethwa unpack Michelle Obama’s latest attempt to seem more relatable — but is it hitting the mark, or missing completely? Simphiwe breaks down the latest from the explosive Diddy trial, with all the twists and courtroom drama. Plus, what does your workspace really say about you? The team takes a look at live photos from The Real Network offices to find out. The Real Network
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16.05.25 Ot 1 - Gareth Cliff weighs in on the 49 South African refugees who’ve just resettled in America — and what their departure could signal for the local economy. A quick sports update with producer James derails into full-on locker room talk as they unpack the strange and hilarious habits people have. Plus, what really happens when you’re slapped with a no-fly list — and how it can flip your life upside down The Real Network
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14.05.25 Pt 2 - Gareth Cliff and Agie Adams are live from Africa’s Travel Indaba, diving into the world of travel etiquette—yes, we’re talking about rude tourists—and the often-overlooked art of packing smart, featuring some cool new tech. They’re joined by Martijn Mellaar, COO of Sense of Oceans, who unpacks the wonders of Madagascar, and later, Michael Njogujoins the show to explore the latest travel trends across Africa The Real Network
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14.05.25 Pt 1 - Gareth Cliff is joined by Agie Adams live from Africa’s Travel Indaba. Broadcasting straight from one of the continent’s biggest tourism events, the conversation dives into disappearing destinations like the sinking city of Venice, travel trends you need to know (including why Spain might be off your list), and surprising tips like the best time to eat ice cream in Europe. Agie also shares her top picks for European getaways you actually want to visit. The Real Network
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12.05.25 Pt 2 - Gareth Cliff and Mash dive into the Influencer Revolution — from AI babies taking over social media to the future of content creation. Things get spicy as they debate what their “price” would be to sell their bodies. Plus, Jonathan Fine joins the conversation to unpack everything you need to know about the Finance Magnates Africa Summit 2025 The Real Network
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12.05.25 Pt 1 - Gareth Cliff is joined by Mash in a wild ride of revelations — from America’s sudden love for South African farmers to Mash’s own unexpected farming ambitions. Gareth digs into Joburg’s crumbling chaos and asks the real question: where’s all the money going? Plus, Dr Hanan steps in to help a self-proclaimed “illiterate” man navigate life in a time when cowboys don’t cry The Real Network
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09.05.25 Pt 2 - Gareth Cliff is joined by international wealth coach JT Foxx for a candid conversation that bridges continents. JT shares his American perspective on what it’s like walking through South African malls, dives into his ever-growing list of high-profile connections, and unpacks why Donald Trump—love him or hate him—is one of the greatest case studies in personal branding The Real Network
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09.05.25 Pt 1 - Gareth Cliff and Ben Karpinski weigh in on the election of the new Pope and why preserving tradition still holds value in a fast-changing world. They also unpack the controversy around Julius Malema being denied entry into the UK, and what it says about South Africa's global standing and political self-respect. Plus, in an era where media is everywhere and on every device, they tackle the increasingly blurry line between public interest and personal privacy The Real Network
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7.05.25 Pt 2 - Gareth and Kyle Worde unpack why Donald Trump might just be the ultimate case study in brand disruption — love him or hate him, the man changed the game. They also dig into the surprising story behind the most famous photo ever taken and what it sold for. Plus, a heated (and hilarious) debate: should men wear makeup, or is it still considered taboo? The Real Network
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7.05.25 Pt 1 - Gareth is joined by Kyle Worde for a deep dive into the strange ways we measure ourselves against others — from status symbols to social media scorecards — and how that comparison becomes its own kind of currency. They also tackle a tough but eye-opening topic: why simply giving homeless people a house doesn’t always mean they can reintegrate into society. And to lighten things up, the two go head-to-head on one of the most important debates of our time: which Frito’s flavour reigns supreme? The Real Network
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05.05.25 Pt 2 - Gareth Cliff is joined by Colonel Chris Wyatt for a deep dive into the shifting state of affairs across the African continent. From rising tariffs and erratic policies to questions around whether the SANDF has been betrayed, the conversation pulls no punches. Chris also unpacks the current geopolitical landscape, revealing the complex web of global alliances and tensions shaping our world today. The Real Network
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05.05.25 Pt 1 - Gareth and Leigh-Ann Mol dive into the growing debate around regulating podcasts following a new statement from Parliament — and why such control could harm independent media. They also spotlight a surprising and troubling fact: not all South African schools offer mathematics. Later, Dr Hanan joins the conversation to unpack attachment styles in a world increasingly shaped by avoidance and anxiety The Real Network
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02.05.25 Pt 2 - Gareth and Ben dig deep — literally — as they break down the types of people who truly belong “down in the mines” (if you know, you know). They also swipe through the chaos of modern dating: can you actually meet your forever person on an app, or is it just a circus of weirdos? And finally, the age-old debate: what is the ideal body type The Real Network
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02.05.25 Pt 1 - Gareth and Ben Karpinski dive headfirst into the internet’s most unhinged debate — who would win in a fight: 100 men or 1 gorilla? (Spoiler: things get heated.) They also unpack the curse of popularity and why being the most liked person might actually suck. Plus, they uncover one of the wildest, most chaotic sports to ever come out of Australia — and it's as mad as it sounds. The Real Network
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30.04.25 Pt 2 - Gareth Cliff and Tumi Morake take a hilarious trip down memory lane as they revisit the most iconic (and sometimes ridiculous) TV shows from their childhood—think Friends and an African Spiderman you’ve definitely never seen before. They unpack what’s coming up in the much-anticipated Roast of Helen Zille, with Tumi stepping into the hot seat as Roast Master. Plus, they explore how ChatGPT is stepping into the world of shopping… because of course it is The Real Network
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30.04.25 Pt 1 - Gareth Cliff and Tumi Morake aren’t here to whisper—they’re here to call out the idiots. In this episode, the duo dives into the uncomfortable yet necessary conversations we all try to avoid: holding people accountable when they deserve to lose their tongues. Tumi gets thrown off by a Catholic tradition tied to the death of a Pope, and the two unleash their frustration with time-wasters—the absolute worst kind of people The Real Network
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