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In this episode we WadeOutThere for Part Two of our conversation with Dec Hogan, from Midway, Utah. Dec grew up with an obsession for fishing that drove him to find water wherever he went. He was introduced to fly fishing and steelhead fishing while he lived in California, but it wasn’t until he joined the Navy and found himself stationed at Whidbey Island, in Washington State, that Dec finally immersed himself into what would become his passion and profession for decades to come… fly fishing for steelhead.
Dec is an accomplished author and spey casting instructor with decades of experience fishing and guiding for steelhead. His books and tactics have influenced countless anglers in search of steelhead on the fly.
In Part Two of our conversation we discuss tactics for swinging flies for steelhead on the surface, how fly fishing and tying can become art, and how fly fishermen and women can become artists in their craft.
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Instagram: @dechogan
Books by Dec Hogan:
A Passion for Steelhead
Tying Steelhead Flies with Style
Steelhead Fly Tying. Art and Design.
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In this episode we WadeOutThere for Part One of our conversation with Dec Hogan, from Midway, Utah. Dec grew up with an obsession for fishing that drove him to find water wherever he went.
He was introduced to fly fishing and steelhead fishing while he lived in California, but it wasn’t until he joined the Navy and found himself stationed at Whidbey Island, in Washington State, that Dec finally immersed himself into what would become his passion and profession for decades to come… fly fishing for steelhead.Dec is an accomplished author and spey casting instructor with decades of experience fishing and guiding for steelhead. His books and tactics have influenced countless anglers in search of steelhead on the fly.
In Part One of our conversation we discuss Dec’s methodical approach to steelhead fishing, differences and similarities in reading water and presenting flies during summer and winter, and the importance of a “vulnerable” swing.
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Instagram: @dechogan
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Pablo Signori, from Chicago, Illinois. Pablo found fly fishing on a friends bachelor party to the outdoors and immediately became obsessed with learning more about the sport, while fishing the lakes in the cities he lived in.
During the COVID pandemic, Pablo moved back to Los Angeles, continuing to fly fish, and eventually decided to combine his skillset in music production with his passion for fly fishing by creating a fly fishing podcast.
Pablo’s podcast, The Newb and the Knower, is a methodical and educational approach to learning the various aspects of fly fishing, during which Pablo has conversations with fly fisherman, author, and competitor Lance Egan.
Pablo is also a fly fishing film maker who recently started the North American Fly Fishing Outfitter, Criollo Camp Outfitters. Pablos’s outfitter emphasizes local culture and sustainability, and includes trips to Mexico and Argentina, among other destinations.
We discuss ideas about how to approach learning and studying fly fishing, the importance of knowing your “why’s on the water” and techniques and stories around urban fly fishing.
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Podcast Spotify: The Newb and the Knower
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Jan Axtell, from Livingston Montana. Jan grew up in Wisconsin, and started fly fishing with a friend at sixteen years old. His first experience on the river was on a spring creek in the Driftless Region, which he continued to fish through high school and college.
After school, Jan moved to Vermont and started guiding. He fished spring creeks in Vermont and Pennsylvania until a job opportunity took him to Livingston, Montana. By then, Jan’s love for spotting and stalking trout in spring creeks was deeply rooted, and even though Jan also guides on the Yellowstone River, and in Yellowstone National Park, his passion remains the challenging spring creeks in the Yellowstone Valley. Jan is also a commercial fly tier.
We discuss finding success in casting through angles, spring creek observation and sight fishing tactics, how to tie flies fast, and fishing through the learning curve.
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Hatchfinders Fly Shop
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Heidi Lewis from Salt Lake City, Utah. Heidi started fly fishing when her two daughters were little as a way to get out of the house and spend time in nature.
After taking a women’s fly fishing class at her local fly shop, she immediately fell in love and became a dedicated student of the sport, spending most of her free time on the river and in the fly shop.
We discuss wade fishing, the Green River, techniques for swinging wet flies, and Utah’s cutthroat slam. Heidi also shares her experience finding time to go fishing alone and with family.
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In this episode we WadeOutThere for Part Two of our conversation with Jake Villwock, from Carlisle, PA. Jake grew up in Maryland, on an island in the Chesapeake Bay surrounded by fishing. His father was a commercial fisherman and professional bass fisherman.
In college, Jake learned early on that he wanted a career in the outdoors and fishing. After working a summer job at a sport and fly fishing lodge in Alaska, he moved to Pennsylvania to pursue his passion for fishing as a guide. Jake soon fell in love with the solitude and exploration of the state’s many smallmouth bass fisheries.
He has now been guiding smallmouth in Pennsylvania for over twelve years, is the author of the book “Smallmouth Bass Flies - Top to Bottom”, and owns and operates his own outfitter Relentless Fly Fishing.
In Part Two of our discussion, Jake explains his problem solving process for designing smallmouth bass flies and tips and techniques for how to present them in Pennsylvania’s miles of smallmouth water. Jake also talks about fishing frog flies for trout.
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In this episode we WadeOutThere for Part One of our conversation with Jake Villwock, from Carlisle, PA. Jake grew up in Maryland, on an island in the Chesapeake Bay surrounded by fishing. His father was a commercial fisherman and professional bass fisherman.
In college, Jake learned early on that he wanted a career in the outdoors and fishing. After working a summer job at a sport and fly fishing lodge in Alaska, he moved to Pennsylvania to pursue his passion for fishing as a guide.
Jake soon fell in love with the solitude and exploration of the state’s many smallmouth bass fisheries. He has now been guiding smallmouth in Pennsylvania for over twelve years and is the author of the book “Smallmouth Bass Flies - Top to Bottom.”
In Part One of our discussion, Jake shares tactics and techniques for observing and presenting to smallmouth bass in Pennsylvania.
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with David Payne, from Helena, Montana. David grew up in Lewistown, Montana, fishing the small towns local stream, Big Spring Creek at age 8, with no fly shops and mail order materials, on a homemade vise. That was in 1964 and he’s been fly fishing ever since.
In 1995, David started guiding on the Missouri River after moving to Helena in 1982, where he still guides today.
We discuss spinner fall tactics on the Missouri River, why you should fish all four seasons of any river you are trying to learn, and how observing others in the boat can make you a better guide and fly fisher.
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DavidPayneOutdoors.com
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Missy Sprouse, from Crowheart, Wyoming. Missy learned to fly fish in East Tennessee after meeting her husband. Together they moved to the remote Wind River Range of Wyoming to settle down and enjoy fishing and riding horses in the mountains.
Missy is also a photographer and after falling in love with fly fishing, became excited about capturing the powerful experiences that women encounter through Casting for Recovery, an organization created to help women with breast cancer through fly fishing. Missy also served on the organization’s national board for eight years.
We discuss fly fishing in the Wind River Mountains, the special experience of reaching your trout stream on horseback, and building lasting communities of ladies through Casting for Recovery.
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CastingforRecovery.org
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Ken Burkholder, from Boise, Idaho. Ken grew up playing music and fly fishing. Growing up in a musical family, with two older brothers to drive him to the river helped him live his early years doing what he loved: practicing the oboe, and fly fishing.
After eventually earning his masters in the oboe at Northwestern University, the mountains called Ken back. He put his passions to work as a member of the Boise Philharmonic Orchestra in his hometown in the winter, and a fly fishing guide on the South Fork of the Snake River in the summer… living his dream for over thirty five years. Ken is also a signature tyer for Fulling Mill.
We discuss tying salmon flies and golden stones, problem solving on the vise for beginners, and the South Fork of the Snake River.
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Pete Erickson, from Boise Idaho. Pete grew up fly fishing in Washington state and exploring the surrounding mountain lakes.
After college, he became a guide on the Upper Green River, in Wyoming, while also teaching high school English. Pete has been a competitor for team USA in the competitive fly fishing world and is a rod designer for Echo.
We discuss Pete’s experience learning and fishing in Tuscany, Italy, the Upper Green River, line management tips for nymphing and dry fly fishing, and Pete shares his progress into the outdoor wellness space in the coming years.
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Evan Keene from Livingston, Montana. Evan fell in love with fly fishing after his father took him on a fishing trip to Alaska after high school graduation.
From then on he was learning all he could about the sport while making the drive from his home state of Tennessee to fish the Little Red River in Missouri as much as possible. Finally, Evan took a job in Montana, that got him out on the river more often, and eventually into the guiding business. Now, Evan is in his first year of running his own fly shop, Hatch Finders, in the Yellowstone Valley, with his close friend and business partner.
We discuss summer hopper fishing, adjusting to dramatic weather changes that bring snow and rain, as well the Yellowstone River.
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Hatch Finders.com
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Duane Redford. Duane began his love of fly fishing and tying as a youth in the mountain lakes of Arizona. He moved to Colorado in 1982, where he became a teacher and a coach, as well as an avid angler.
When his coaching days were over, Duane became a full time guide for Minturn Anglers, in the Vail Valley, and immersed himself in his passion for the water. Today, Duane continues to teach through fly fishing. He has written several books and creates content for his YouTube channel.
We discuss approaching a new river, interpreting and obs erving water, directional control throughout the drift, and the Eagle River.
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Duane Redford: Hidden in Plain View: Recognizing the Obvious-Exploiting the Obscure in Fly Fishing
Duane Redford: Fly Fisher's Playbook: A Systematic Approach to Nymphing
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In this episode we WadeOutThere for Part Two of our conversation with Danny Lane from Idaho Falls, Idaho. Danny grew up fishing in the ponds around Boise as a child and became fascinated with fly fishing early on.
After leaving his hometown for a change of pace, he finally found himself in the fly shops and rivers of Eastern Idaho, when his wife’s job brought them to the banks of the Henry’s Fork River. Danny was guiding shortly after and is a signature fly tier for Umpqua Feather Merchants.
In Part Two of our talk we discuss the Henry’s Fork River, tactics and techniques for dry flies, and Danny’s unique artwork.
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ThreeRiversRanch.com
Instagram: @DanielJamesLazy
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Danny Lane from Idaho Falls, Idaho. Danny grew up fishing in the ponds around Boise as a child and became fascinated with fly fishing early on.
After leaving his hometown for a change of pace, he finally found himself in the fly shops rivers of Eastern Idaho, when his wife’s job brought them to the banks of the Henry’s Fork River. Danny was guiding shortly after and is a signature fly tier for Umpqua Feather Merchants.
In Part One of our talk we discuss how Danny goes about testing and designing a fly for function, the importance of a dry fly’s silhouette on the water, and how to think outside the box when you’re in your fly box.
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ThreeRiversRanch.com
Instagram: @DanielJamesLazy
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In this episode we WadeOutThere for Part Two of our conversation with Kubie Brown from Southwest Montana. Kubie grew up with an obsession for fishing that often led to solo fishing excursions in the streams, rivers, and lakes of Vermont and New York.
His literature and creative writing studies led him to work as a reporter and later an editor for a local newspaper. Kubie quit his job as editor to take a job as a sales associate at Orvis, which later led to casting and fly tying instructing.
When the chance to go to guide school in Montana presented itself, Kubie jumped at the opportunity. It’s there that Kubie continues to make a life for himself as a guide and freelance writer for online publications such as Meateater and Midcurrent.
In Part Two of our conversation we talk about the endearing qualities of a caddis fly and tactics for how to fish them, as well as some of the problems that come with stocking trout.
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Instagram: @kubiebrown
READ: MIDCURRENT | Early Summer Streamer Strategies (by Kubie Brown)
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Kubie Brown from Southwest Montana. Kubie grew up with an obsession for fishing that often led to solo fishing excursions in the streams, rivers, and lakes of Vermont and New York. His literature and creative writing studies led him to work as a reporter and later an editor for a local newspaper. Kubie quit his job as editor to take a job as a sales associate at Orvis, which later led to casting and fly tying instructing.
When the chance to go to guide school in Montana presented itself, Kubie jumped at the opportunity. It’s there that Kubie continues to make a life for himself as a guide and freelance writer for online publications such as Meateater and Midcurrent.
In Part One of our conversation we discuss how Kubie approaches writing about fly fishing, the diversity of the Adirondacks, and techniques for continuing to problem solve while streamer fishing.
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Instagram: @kubiebrown
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In this episode we Wade Back into some of 2024s most memorable conversations. These impactful dialogues are a combination of tactics, stories, conservation, and personal journeys that represent the best of what fly fishing can give us and what we can give back.
If you’ve been a long time listener of the show, my intent is that these highlights remind you of why you listen and what WadeOutThere tries to unpack by sharing each guest's story of why fly fishing is special… for them.
If you’re new to the podcast, this is what it’s all about. Everyone’s story is different. Everyone’s passion for the sport takes its own meandering path downstream. This show explores those unique passions. I hope this episode inspires you to go back and listen to some earlier episodes that spark your interest.
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Casey Callison, from Springfield, Missouri. Casey moved to the Ozarks from St. Louis when he was a small boy and has been hunting and fishing there ever since. When Casey was twelve he was introduced to fly fishing. He spent nearly every day in the summers of his youth on the banks of Lake Taneycomo, below Table Rock Dam, fishing and learning from a local fly fisherman that became a friend and mentor.
Casey has wrtiten several articles that have been published in various fly fishing magazines, is a local musician, and ties flies that he shares through his online store, Finly Fly Co.
We discuss the often overlooked blue ribbon trout fisheries in Missouri, the history of Missouri’s trout parks, and Casey shares some unique insights into “junk flies.”
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Finley Fly Co: https://finleyflyco.wixsite.com/finleyflyco
Instagram: @casey_callison
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Casey-Callison-Music/100089551372150/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@casey_callison
MDC Blue Ribbon Slam: https://mdc.mo.gov/fishing/trophies-certificates/blue-ribbon-trout-slam
Trout Park Info: https://mdc.mo.gov/fishing/species/trout/trout-parks
Crane Creek Essay: https://terrain-mag.com/crane-creek-fly-fishing/
American Fly Fishing Mag: https://americanflyfishing.com/
ALT Fly Fishing Journal: https://altflyfishing.com/
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In this episode we WadeOutThere with Maxine McCormick, from San Francisco California. Maxine began fly fishing as a child with her father, and spent summer vacations with family, on the McCloud River, catching fish and learning from her dad.
When Maxine was introduced to competition fly casting, her new found passion for casting helped her enjoy the fishing aspect of the sport more as well. Maxine was competing nationally at age nine and won a gold medal at the world championships for accuracy at age twelve. Now Maxine works at a fly shop in the Seattle area where she attends school and continues to incorporate fly fishing into her life’s adventures.
We discuss the McCloud River, the basics of the casting stroke that Maxine practices and teaches, and how she adjusts her casts for different scenarios on the water.
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