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In this new episode of We Recover Loudly, Shell is joined by Aussie entrepuneor Anthony Hammond, who is the brains behind Pub with NO booze. Anthony, a second generation publican, had always been immersed in the world of hospitality since his childhood in country pubs. In 2013 he first had glimmers that his drinking was causing problems, but it was not until 2021 that he went to rehab and has since been enjoying a sober life, with a mission in the industry.
Anthony Hammond shares his experiences growing up in a pub environment, where drinking was normalized both at home and in the community. He describes how drinking culture was prevalent during his childhood and continued into his time working in hospitality, where after-shift drinks were a common social practice among staff. However, he now recognises how ingrained this culture can be and the challenges it poses, particularly as it can blur the lines between social enjoyment and problem drinking. Through his initiative "Pub With No Booze," he aimsed to provide alternatives and challenge these associations, promoting enjoyment and camaraderie without the reliance on alcohol.
This is a fun-filled and informative conversation with poignant moments, that explore the glamorous side of bartending and working in drink venues, while also touching on the challenging moments when things take a darker turn.For more information on We Recover Loudly and to reach out for speaking engagements or support email [email protected]
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In this new episode, Shell is joined by chef Al Roberto who shares his remarkable journey from rock star on global stages and to smashing success in the kitchen back in his home town of Yorkshire, and beyond. The episode takes a deep dive into Al's early influences, from the rituals of post-shift beers with his father to the adrenaline-fueled culture of the 90s dining scene. Al reflects on how societal norms and early experiences set the stage for his future battles with addiction and mental health. They explore the significant generational shifts in the hospitality sector, contrasting the hard-partying ways of the past with the healthier lifestyles that younger chefs are starting to embrace.
The complex nature of addiction, from gambling and substance abuse The unspoken epidemic of pain killer addictionStruggle of maintaining good mental health in a demanding industry. Al's personal struggles, the impact of being a role model, and the importance of setting positive examples for the next generation.
Al shares his story of how creating pizza kits with his son during lockdown reignited his culinary passion, ultimately leading to the opening of his dream restaurant, Simmer Kitchen. They discuss their shared struggles with addiction and the importance of taking breaks from drinking - That it does not always have to be forever, even a short time gives your mental and physical health so many benefits.
In the episode, they also discuss -This episode really emphasies the necessity of moderation, mental health support, and a balanced life for longevity in the industry. Check it out, and connect with Al on his instagram account-
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In this new episode, Shell is joined by Tony Kost, an amazing advocate for sobriety in the hospitality industry. He shares his inspiring journey from the dive bars of his youth to working alongside culinary legends like Iron Chef Michael Simon, a path that unfortunately took a downturn due to alcoholism. Tony is gearing up to celebrate 8 years of sobriety in the coming weeks, and he truly embodies the fact that it is possible to thrive in a bar focused career while also maintaining sobriety.
Tony opens up about the emotional rollercoaster of early sobriety, the challenges of dealing with regret and shame, and the ongoing effort needed for genuine recovery. His reflections emphasise the significance of compassionate leadership and the duty we all have to foster supportive environments for those in need of help. Through honest conversations, Tony shares the emotional impact of moving on from an identity tied to addiction and the vital role of self-accountability in this process.
The sharp increase of Tony's drinking when he moved to working in high end restaurants where he felt the culture of expectation to drink started to take a real influence.The challenging truth that many people in the hospitality industry, like Tony and Shell, have lost so many years to stress, burnout, and addiction. Now, in their early 40s, they find themselves having to process the grief of those lost years.How Tony used his social media, and outing himself, to help with accountability when he wanted to change his life and stick with sobriety.The often exploitative dynamic in our industry between young newcomers and management, and how this culture is nearing its expiration date, as we're now experiencing challenges with recruitment
Some of the things we discussed :Talking to Tony is always such a treat. He is an incredible role model to the industry, to his peers and the people who have the pleasure of having his support in the Ben's Friends meetings in Cleveland. Follow him on socials, and know that his DM's are always open if you need support.
@tony_and_oscarjames
If you want to check out a Ben's Friends meeting head to their website for more details.
https://www.bensfriendshope.com/
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In this new episode Shell speaks to the fabulous Ian Blessing, creator of a groundbreaking line of non-alcoholic cocktail bitters, 'All The Bitters'. A former sommelier from the infamous French Laundry, he co-founded the company with his wife Carly, crafting the bitters from organic, wild-foraged ingredients, which offer flavour as well as functional health benefits.
The discussion explores the demanding expectations placed on staff in restaurants like The French Laundry, and the mental and physical toll this environment can exact. Ian opens up about the camaraderie he felt amongst colleagues as they pushed to reach the near-impossible standards daily, and how he found himself turning to alcohol as a coping mechanism. They talk about the growing recognition of mental health and addiction issues in the industry, and the critical role having non-alcoholic alternatives for customers play in creating a supportive work environment.They also discuss how important a strong No/Low drinks program is for businesses, and the essentialness of featuring non-alcoholic drinks prominently to boost sales. Ian has a fantastic resource on his website to look at if you are hoping to increase your drink menu that can be read following this link –
https://allthebitter.com/a/blog/crafting-a-non-alcoholic-cocktail-program
Tune in for a rich, engaging conversation that spans hospitality, sobriety, and innovation and make sure to check out All The Bitters in your cocktail creations!!!
@allthebitter
@ianjamesblessing
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Wow, this episode is truly amazing! It was recorded late last year with the fantastic Chef Brother Luck, and we had a deep conversation about the power of vulnerability and sharing your story authentically to help others through their own struggles with pain, grief, or depression. Chef Brother Luck openly rejects the toxic chef lifestyle and attitudes often found in kitchens. He is dedicated to being the change he wants to see in the industry, emphasizing the importance of creating a positive workplace culture through trust and hard work. We also discussed the colleagues he has lost to alcohol misuse, the loneliness of addiction, and his own journey to sobriety.
We also discussed :
- The important of the early mentorship Brother Luck received, and how it ensured he was cooking at a high level from the early days.
- How he found his community of misfits in the early days, and that the connection really pushed him to be his best as he finally felt he fitted in.
- The importnace of the experience you gain through making mistakes
- What is 'culture' - How to communicate it, and how to live it. The danger of the team 'family'
- Brother Luck's incredibly progressive yet hard earnt management style, and the importnace of treating people as individiuals.
- His 'Resting Chef Face'
- The power of standing up and showing that being sober in this industry is a strength and not a weakness.
This conversation has only gotten better with age. Chef Brother Luck is truly a unique and beautiful soul, making a big impact on people's lives by bravely discussing mental health and addiction. He hosts a podcast called "No Lucks Given" which features inspiring episodes on self-improvement and personal development. Be sure to give it a listen and follow him on social media for more amazing inspiration. And don't forget to check out his fantastic book through the link below!
@chefbrotherluck
https://www.chefbrotherluck.com/
No Lucks Given : Life is Hard, But There Is Hope by Brother Luck
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In the newest episode of "We Recover Loudly," host Shell chats with special guest, Boiling Point lead writer James Cummings about the fascinating world of the hospitality industry, and how it has been depicted in such a relatable and impactful way by the whole team behind the award winning films and tv series.
Handling customer expectations and misconceptionsEmotional impact of customer mistreatment on service staffSupporting diverse team members in the workplaceThe ongoing journey of recovery and the importance of support in the workplace
James shares his personal stories of working in the industry during his university days, offering insights on how to handle tough situations and demanding customers. We delve into the emotional side of working in hospitality, touching on the often-overlooked issue of customer mistreatment and the lack of respect for service staff. Our conversation also emphasizes the significance of supporting a diverse team, including LGBTQ+ members and those facing personal challenges. It's wonderful to see these real-life situations portrayed in the series Boiling Point. James confirms how important it was for the show to have that authentic voice, and showcase real life scenario's that make us question where we could do better as an industry.
We explore how the characters in Boiling Point mirror real-life scenarios, such as the nurturing side of Hannah Walter's character Emily or the relatable lack of boundaries exhibited by manager Dean when it comes to partying with the team. This episode is packed with heartfelt stories, thought-provoking reflections, and valuable advice on navigating the hospitality industry while prioritizing personal well-being.
We also discussed:Enjoy this episode filled with authentic experiences and insights that shed light on the highs and lows of the hospitality world. And don't forget to catch Boiling Point on I Player and Netflix to watch Jame’s words in action.
@jamesacummings
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In this new episode of We Recover Loudly, Shell is joined by the wonderful Derek Brown. Derek is an author and NASM-certified wellness coach, and also the founder of Positive Damage, Inc. As one of the US’s top bartenders, he previously owned the Spirited Awards 2017 “Best American Cocktail Bar” Columbia Room in Washington, D.C. Derek published his first book in 2019, and followed that up in 2022 with his book Mindful Mixology: a Comprehensive Guide to No- and Low-Alcohol Cocktails.
Derek has made significant contributions to the global bar industry and has influenced the way we approach non-alcoholic drinking. After experiencing his own struggles with alcohol, Derek now promotes mindfulness as a way to encourage people to reflect on their reasons for reaching for a drink, instead of focusing solely on abstaining from alcohol.
We also discussed -
- The VAMPIRIC lifestyle of a bartender and shift worker
- The joy in finding we can still enjoy the magic of a bar sober!
- How putting down the booze made Derek realise how much he was using it to hide his mental health issues and that finally in sobriety he was able to address issues that had been there for years.
- How boring hanging out with a load of drunk people has become now we are sober!
- How sobriety has completely turned Derek's life around; which does not mean it is all perfect, but does mean you can build real defences to the worlds challenges.
This was a one of a kind conversation with a personal hero, and it is a brilliantly enriching listen. Enjoy!For more information on We Recover Loudly and to reach out for speaking engagements or support email [email protected]
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In this new episode, Shell welcomes the delightful Jason-Candid Knusel, who is the director of non profit Healthy Hospo. With 15 years of experience in the food and drinks industry, including working at renowned venues like The Savoy and the NoMad Hotel in London, Jason has seen the importance of investing in a healthier hospitality culture. Alongside Tim Etherington-Judge, the founder of Healthy Hospo, they decided to create a platform of training and events that promotes a more sustainable and fulfilling industry. In addition to his impressive background, Jason is also a certified nutritionist and all-around great guy. We talked about a lot of awesome things, including -
Jason's start of his career in hotel kitchens, and we reminised on the charm and nostalgia of hotels from a time when traveling was seen as a special occasion.His passion for meeting new people each day in the front of the house quickly led Jason to make the switch from the kitchen to the floor and eventually the bar. Although he initially considered leaving the industry due to missing the creativity of cooking, he soon discovered that the bar provided the ideal balance between creativity and personal interaction.How in the industry, we're usually taught to have respect for produce, recipes, processes, and brand standards. However, we often overlook training the importance of respecting ourselves and ensuring our safety in hospitality.Tim, the founder of Healthy Hospo's incredible story and what drove him to create the brilliant organisation.How we CAN do the job of a bartender and brand ambassador without being an excessive consumer of alcohol; but what are the brands teaching their ambassadors about having a balanced relationship with the drinks they are representing. STAFF FOOD! And why it is so important to offer teams nutritious fuel if we want the best from them; and that good staff food is a great indicator of good company culutre.Jason, and Healthy Hospo have done some incredible work to help people in the industry make more sustainable decisions that are all about keeping ourselves healthy and working longer in this fabulous industry with success. Check out more on their work following the below links :
https://healthyhospo.com/
https://www.drinkstrust.org.uk/
@healthyhospo
@jasoncandidFor more information on We Recover Loudly and to reach out for speaking engagements or support email [email protected]
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In this new episode, we get to know Joshua Gandee, a bartender and creative who has been working in and around the restaurant industry for over a decade. In 2017, Joshua made the decision to quit drinking and has since been promoting a non-alcoholic culture in his city of Ohio and beyond whether with his buddies Focus On Health, with Historic Revellery who specialise in creating one of a kind experiences with drinks brands, or on his podcast 'No Proof' which has been nomitated at Tales of a Cocktail 2024 for an award for best podcast!
On the podcast, Josh hosts conversations that highlight the different ways we all navigate life without alcohol. It's a reminder that while our journeys may be unique, we ultimately share in the growth and transformation that comes from making this choice. I really resonate with Joshua's mission, as I set up We Recover Loudly as I wish something like this had existed when I was questioning my own relationship with alcohol. Joshua believes it is all about a shift in mindset, which leads to a change in identity, and he is dedicated to continuously improving himself while uplifting those around him. We discussed -
- The ulitmate sparkling water
- The repurcussions the industry is still feeling post pandemic
- What Gen Z really want in a role.
- Culture being a 'tick box' excercise, and how as leaders we have to live the culture we want to see.
- The awesomeness of finding common ground with your team when you remove alcohol and actually get to know them as individuals.
- The power of all recovery stories, and that not having a 'rock bottom' does no invalidate your experiences.
This was a wonderful chat with a beautiful soul. Check out his podcast 'No Proof' on all podcast platforms, and follow Josh on socials to stay in the loop.
@joshuagandee
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This week's guest is the iconic, and exceptionally talented, chef Gabriel Rucker. Having started in kitchens at a young age, even though he dropped out of culinary school, Gabriel's incredible talent was there from the start. At 25, Gabriel became the chef at Portland’s iconic Le Pigeon, where he redefined French cuisine with his signature adventurous twists and carefree energy. He continued building award-winning restaurants, and he currently serves as Chef and co-owner of Canard—a French brasserie with two locations in Oregon–in addition to Le Pigeon. He is one of Portland’s most respected and decorated chefs. He has earned two James Beard awards for Rising Star Chef in 2011 and Best Chef Northwest in 2013. Over the past 10 years, he has become a leading advocate within the restaurant industry for recovery, health and fitness. In 2019, Rucker, along with fellow Portland chef Gregory Gourdet, he opened the Portland chapter of Ben’s Friends, the restaurant industry recovery group started by previous guest Mickey Bakst.
Recently Gabriel did a Ted Talk Portland about leadership, mentorship and how to keep pushing forward in life even when things are tough. He also runs a group called Bird Dog Run, which is a running club that meets in front of Le Pigeon every Friday at 9am for people of all industry's to connect and enjoy the positive effects of exercise.
We discussed -
- Being a culinary school drop out.
- How in 2007 he was the top of the culinary world, and how he nearly lost it all due to his spiralling addiction.
- How alcohol and drugs had been an issue from a young age, but the environment and pressure of the kitchen had amplified this until he felt he could not do it anymore and sort help from his father, himself in recovery.
- Priorising his wife and family over his job, and how by doing that and being a better family man he is actually able to be a better leader in the kitchen.
- The teaching and mentoring he now does about balance, presence and boundaries with his own team, so they do not repeat the same patterns he did.Getting to speak to Gabriel was a real pinch-me moment, and it was amazing to get the chance to connect with one of the first chefs who has really taken it upon themselves to recovery loudly, to stop others dying quietly.
Check him out on Instagram - @ruckergabriel @birddogrunclub
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ONE YEAR BIRTHDAY PODCAST RELEASE !!!
This week's episode marks one year since releasing episode one. To mark this milestone, it was important to invite a guest along who has been instrumental in the genesis of this whole project, and indeed my sobriety. My guest, Rupert Davison is one of the company directors of A Rule of Tum. Rupert is a director at A Rule of Tum, which operates 6 restaurants in Worcester and Hereford, with plans to open in Birmingham. A Rule of Tum offers a diverse range of dining experiences, from Japanese ramen to classic burgers. They also run Dish by Art, a events company specializing in bespoke weddings and celebrations. Over the past decade, A Rule of Tum has become a culinary powerhouse.
I worked at The Burger Shop Worcester for a few years, including over Covid. During that time, my drinking spiralled out of control, leading to devastating consequences like losing my job. In this episode, I chat with Rupert, a dear friend and the one who ultimately had to let me go. We delve into the challenges faced by employers in an industry with a long history of excessive drinking and drug use.
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How Rupert got into cooking, and the great experiences the industry can offer young people in particular.The stresses of being a leader, and the burnout that so frequently comes with that.The lessons we have both learnt from the situation we found ourselves in.The great work that A Rule of Tum do to support their team members.This episode includes an introduction discussing the incident and my hope to inspire change by being open and vulnerable. Thank you to all listeners for an amazing year of podcasting.
Check out the fantastic company A Rule of Tum here - https://aruleoftum.com/
And follow on socials
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@_the_yard_hereford
@leavenpizza
@manekiramenworcester
@thebookshophfdFor more information on We Recover Loudly and to reach out for speaking engagements or support email [email protected]
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In this week's episode we speak to the absolute legend Mickey Bakst, co founder of the national organisation Ben's Friends in the US. After losing a friend to addiction, Ben's Friends was born with a simple mission: to help struggling industry professionals break free from addiction. With almost 60 years of combined sobriety, Mickey and his partner Steve Palmer have proven that you can thrive in this industry while staying sober. Established in 2016, Ben’s Friends provides hope, fellowship, and support to those in the hospitality industry dealing with substance abuse. The organisation demonstrates that recovery is possible, and individuals can thrive in the industry without relying on alcohol or drugs through community, communication, and compassion.
We discussed SO MUCH, including -
- Why the industry is not to blame for peoples addiction ... But why it is also not blameless.
- Why we need to stop throwing our people away, and how we can help them collaborative as mental health organisations.
- How addiction is an industry wide issue, and not just reserved for chefs and BOH team members.
- How to change the culture around drinking when the managers are the ones that need to change the most.
- The recent change of narrative from 'let's get rid of the problem worker' to 'what can we do to support' and how important that change is for the future of the industry.
- Sober contracts; what do they mean for the industry?
Micky's honesty and willingness to generously share his story has saved so many lives. He speaks with love, passion and poetry of his time working FOH and his mission to protect both its people, and its magic is why he is an ICON. As Mickey himself says "Sobriety is a ball, we can do it in the industry and its even better if we do it together."
Ben's Friends have daily online meetings, as well as in person meetings across the US and Canada. Check out their website for meeting links and follow on social media for more information.
https://www.bensfriendshope.com/ @bensfriendshopeFor more information on We Recover Loudly and to reach out for speaking engagements or support email [email protected]
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In this week's episode, I sat down with the hilarious and incredibily intellectual Laura Louise Green, the founder of Healthy Pour. Healthy Pour is an organisation based in Chicago who focus on improving the mental health and well being of individuals in the workplace. Laura is a trained psychotherapist, and organizational consultant. It was shortly after receiving her license to practice as a psychotherapist, that the death of Anthony Bourdain prompted her to turn her sights on the hospitality industry and to provide free psychoeducation to the community at large. Since then, Healthy Pour has expanded to service all workspaces and industries, with a fondness for creative, high-pressure, working environments.
We discussed –
Trauma bonding and how that influence’s our decision on where we work.The impact of childhood experiences on our adult life decisions.How making small changes can have a massive ripple affect on the way people experience their work and therefore how they go on to enjoy their down time.The failed opportunities we had to reset as an industry after the pandemic.How to build trust in the workplaceLaura is a powerhouse of information and her passion for change is not only infectious, but vitally needed at this time in the industry. Check out the amazing work she does on the website and follow her on socials.
https://healthypour.org/about
@laura.louise.green
@healthy.pour
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In this new episode, recorded late 2023, Shell talks to the wonderful Karl Considine back when he was still at the beginning of his journey with the now wildy successful Love From bar in Manchester.
The challenge of looking after yourself when working in hospitality as you are there to serve others .Wearing you ability to work hard, party hard and repeat over and over as a badge of honour.Drinking home and alone; the secret world of addiction and that road to isolation it takes us down.The spectrum of extroversion and introversion.
Throughout this heartfelt conversation, Karl peels back the layers of his experiences, discussing the stark realities of his former identity as the 'party boy' and the shift to a life where authenticity takes center stage. From confronting an identity crisis to building a new sense of self, he guides us through the intricate process of self-discovery that sobriety has ignited within him. His insights into the struggles with past habits, fears of relapse, and the joyous moments of living authentically offer a stirring glimpse into a life reclaimed.
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Karl's unwavering commitment to fostering inclusive, safe spaces where people can recover and discover themselves is such an inspiring story. He really is one of those unique humans with a very special heart and it was wonderful to chat to him.
To connect with Karl, head to his instagram @love.fromco and @whatnext.karlFor more information on We Recover Loudly and to reach out for speaking engagements or support email [email protected]
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In this new episode, Ben Gibbs, founder of the Sober Boozers Club, shares his journey with us in his signature candid, and humourous manner. He discusses his struggle with alcoholism and the pivotal moment that led him towards sobriety. Ben's story not only highlights his personal triumph but also sheds light on the growing market for non-alcoholic beer, emphasizing the inclusivity and happiness that can be found in a life without alcohol.
Being a big deal in RedditchThe challenge of being an alcoholic who loves beer, and how Ben claimed that and has not stopped doing what he loves just because he put down the booze.That you do not have to be an alcoholic to stop drinkingHow important to Ben it has been building a community of AF beer drinkers around him, and the joy of being able to share his love of these drinks with peopleThe commonality of addicts who search for community in the wrong places, which leads to the bottle of a bottle ... And how now we are sober we find what we were really looking for. Connection.
During our conversation, we delve into the emotional challenges faced by those in recovery. We discuss the stigma associated with the term 'alcoholic' and the importance of self-forgiveness. Ben discusses the process of overcoming past mistakes while redefining one's identity.
We also discuss -This episode is a mix of laughter and honesty, showcasing a community that embraces vibrant living without alcohol. Pour yourself your fave AF beer and enjoy! For more from Ben, follow him on @sober_boozers_club
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This week on We Recover Loudly, we pull back the curtain with Shannon Michelle, whose journey from pizza counter to cocktail shaker has taken a turn towards sobriety and a quest for inclusivity in the bar industry. Her candid stories serve as a beacon for those navigating the rewarding yet tumultuous waves of hospitality. From the personal cost of burnout to her transformation into a charity-minded business owner, Shannon's reflections are a testament to the power of vulnerability and the strength found in choosing a life less intoxicated.
Navigating a career in hospitality can be like mixing a complex cocktail – it requires balance, a dash of creativity, and the occasional bitter note to appreciate the sweet. We examine the silent struggles faced by many behind the bar, discussing the importance of recognizing the warning signs of mental health in our team and the necessity for compassionate leadership.
We also discuss -
- Burn out and neurodiversity
- The fear we can feel around asking for help, and how this can esculate destructive behaviours.
- How important boundaries are, and that we should be championing them in our teams, and ourselves.
- The importance of mentorship.
We discuss the burgeoning trend of low and no ABV cocktails that Shannon champions. This conversation is an inspiring a celebration of personal growth, professional evolution, and the realization that sobriety might just be the best decision you can make!
For more information on We Recover Loudly and to reach out for speaking engagements or support email [email protected]
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On this week's episode, we are joined by Acme Fire Cult Leader, chef Andrew Clarke. Andrew Clarke shares about his childhood upbringing being around flames to mastering the art of live fire cooking. His journey has been one of transformation, both in the kitchen and in his personal life. As we discuss the timeline of his career, Andrew shares anecdotes from his early days as a musician to the key moments that shaped his path as a culinary expert, all while maintaining his signature beard in the fiery atmosphere of his craft.
This episode delves into the challenges of kitchen life and the importance of mental health in the hospitality industry. Andrew Clarke openly talks about his personal struggles with depression and emphasizes the need for support networks within the profession. His work with Pilot Light offers hope for those facing the intense environment of the culinary world, highlighting the significance of self-care when working with the flames of the kitchen.
Andrew's resilience and commitment to wellbeing in the hospitality sector showcase the importance of nourishing the spirit alongside perfecting a dish. If you're interested in the balance between humor, wellness, and creating a supportive workplace environment, tune in for a heartfelt discussion that could change your perspective on success in the industry. Each story shared contributes to building a healthier and more fulfilled community of chefs and culinary enthusiasts.
Check out Andrew on instagram @chefandrewclarke and @acmefirecultFor more information on We Recover Loudly and to reach out for speaking engagements or support email [email protected]
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This week’s episode is a total riot. Shell is joined by one of the brains behind the incredible brewery Mash Gang. Jordan talks about the journey from a hobbyist homebrewer during lockdown to launching a successful non-alcoholic beverage company. He discusses how their initial experimentation with fermentation led to creating some rather unique products before getting to the beers we know and love, collaborating with breweries like Northern Monk and BrewDog, and navigating challenges during the COVID-19 pandemic. Despite setbacks, Jordan reflects on their adventurous spirit of the Mash Gang team and how their sheer determination and hard work to turn their hobby into a thriving business has come to fruit in such an extraordinary way.
We also discussed
The importance of knowledge sharing and collaboration within the industry, highlighting initiatives like free training sessions for industry professionals.The commercialisation of addiction, with a powerful perspective on how things like Dry January can infact cause challenges for people due to a lack of safety.Jordan shares his personal experience with addiction, rehab and rehabilitation.Societal perceptions of sobriety and the need to respect individual choices without judgment.The obsession recovered addicts have with shortbread.
Jordan is a massive character in the NA industry, and his personality is as delightfully refreshing as his beers. This episode really highlights that the NA beer space is full of energy, creativity and excitement. Whatever your reason for reaching for an NA beer, Mash Gang have really raised the bar.
Connect with Jordan:
@ mash_gang linkedin.com/in/mashgangjord
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This episode is brought to you by our proud sponsors:
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On this week’s episode, we are joined by Raj Markandoo, an openly queer sober legend who currently works as Operations Manager at London based Bubala. Raj shares his personal journey of overcoming challenges growing up feeling disconnected from his community and how he finally found a sense of belonging when he started working in hospitality in Cumbria. We connected on how we both previously used drugs and alcohol to escape our thoughts and emotions, and how as the years went past that behaviour became more and more problematic. Raj describes finding sobriety during the COVID-19 lockdown, and emphasises the importance of breathwork and mindfulness in his recovery.
We also discussed
How a personalised approach to recovery can be beneficial, and that finding what works best for the individual, whether it's meditation, support groups, or other forms of therapy is important.The value of gratitude and self-reflection in recovery.The importance of mindfulness practices and boundary-setting in your personal journeys and professional lives, emphasizing the need for ongoing conversations and resources to support mental health and well-being in the workplaceThe significance of honesty, resourcing oneself, and seeking help when managing team members struggling with addiction or mental health issues and how the best approach is always with compassion when addressing these challenges.Raj is a great example of what we should be striving for in our managers. He is open and honest about where he has made mistakes, but he has owned up to them and now he works hard to provide a shining example to not just his team, but the whole industry. Raj proves that you can be in recovery and work not only at a high level in the industry, but work there with humility and abundance.
And if you live in London, get to Bubala now!
Connect with Raj:
@rajmarkandoo
@bubala_london
For more information on We Recover Loudly and to reach out for speaking engagements or support:
@werecoverloudly www.werecoverloudly.com
This episode is brought to you by our proud sponsors:
The Burnt Chef Project @theburntchefproject
www.theburntchefproject.com
AND
No Low Drinker Magazine @lownodrinkermagazine
www.lownodrinkermagazine.com
For more information on We Recover Loudly and to reach out for speaking engagements or support email [email protected]
@werecoverloudly
www.werecoverloudly.comThis episode is brought to you by our proud sponsors:
Low No Drinker Magazine @lownodrinkermagazine
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On this week’s episode, we have marketing legend and one of the incredible minds behind ‘Hospitality Rising’, Mark McCulloch. The campaign, which has created more excitement and drive towards getting people to consider a career in hospitality than any previous attempt, is coming up to 18 months old and has industry awards such as Casual Dining Awards ‘Special Award’ and Otolo’s Opra’s award for ‘Grassroots Marketing’, scattered amongst its many achievements. Previous to this campaign, 1 in 5 would consider a career in hospitality. This has now increased to 1 in 3. The tag line ‘Rise Fast, Work Young’ has engaged a whole new demographic of workers, as well as being supported by veteran industry leaders such as Angela Harnett and Tom Kerridge.
We also discussed:
How broken the way we recruit is, and that a radical change needs to be made to; and Mark’s suggestions of what that may look likeThe impact of hearing Trevor Gulliver speaking, and saying “are you generous enough to teach”; and the impact of those words for leaders.Whether hospitality is the ‘architect of its own doom’ and if so, what we need to do to change that future.Why hospitality is such a fantastic industry for young people.Mark is bundle of joy and passion for this industry, and he was a delight to catch up with. Make sure to follow Hospitality Rising as there are big plans for the future ahead.
@supersonic_inc
@hosporisinguk
https://hospitalityrising.org
@werecoverloudly www.werecoverloudly.com
Want us to come into your business and talk to your teams about addiction in the workplace?? Send us an email at [email protected] and we will be in touch!
This episode is sponsored by The Burnt Chef Project.
@theburntchefproject www.theburntchefproject.com
AND
Low No Drinker Magazine
@lownodrinkermagazine www.lownodrinkermagazine.com
For more information on We Recover Loudly and to reach out for speaking engagements or support email [email protected]
@werecoverloudly
www.werecoverloudly.comThis episode is brought to you by our proud sponsors:
Low No Drinker Magazine @lownodrinkermagazine
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